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Title: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on January 01, 2008, 09:29:12 am
2008 POZ Cruise Retreat:
October 26 – November 2, 2008

Gay website
www.hivcruise.com

Hetro website
http://www.abcwebservice.com/hetero_poz_cruise/


Day 1 - Departs from Fort Lauderdale
Day 2 - Princess Cays, Bahamas
Day 3 - At Sea
Day 4 - St. Maarten, Netherlands Antilles
Day 4 - St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands
Day 5 - Grand Turk
Day 6 - At Sea
 Day 7 - Ft Lauderdale

Ship - Crown Princess
http://www.princess.com/learn/ships/kp/index.html

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: ubotts on January 03, 2008, 08:53:28 pm
Would they take medicade? :P
Sounds lovely and I could sure use a change..

Guess I have to keep buying lottery tickets, cuz thats the only way this girl is gonna get there............

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: mjmel on January 04, 2008, 07:04:33 am
You know, it may be a winning idea to have this particular cruise on the 2009 ballot, for consideration. Costwise it's not pricey as long as one does a roomshare........room and food cost are included......just that, it runs a little more than a the land oriented AMG gathering when one factors in the extra cost incurred for any excursions taken. Excursions, with this particular outfit, are arranged to be with other HIV+ exclusively so they would offer a comfort zone as well. Some cruisers don't do excursions at all (or anymore) and just walk around the port towns instead of the adventuresome excursions.

Thing is, too.......I wonder if this would complicate processes of the Grants Committee disbursing monies. One has to put a deposit down at time of booking and the balance is paid in full well before the cruising dates.

Mike M
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on January 04, 2008, 01:06:54 pm
Only 296  days and counting  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: newbernswiss on January 04, 2008, 04:01:03 pm
Well I printed out the reservation form and called "Paul", will know in the next 2 weeks if we can make it, right now I'd say 95% yes we will be going. Sounds like a nice trip.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: BT65 on January 04, 2008, 07:42:55 pm
I'm with Ubotts on this one.  Living on disability doesn't afford one the luxury of these things.  It sounds like a blast though!
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: BriGuyNY,NY on January 05, 2008, 04:26:29 pm
I plan to be on board, along with other SIN-NYC members...anchor's aweigh
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: SouthSam7 on January 05, 2008, 10:20:14 pm
If you want to go, you can.  There was lots of guys on the last one who are on disability.  They either had a sponsor or they paid a little each month.  It's not expensive.  Besides, my friends on disability make more money that I do at work!

Good luck,
Sam
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on January 06, 2008, 02:40:44 pm
Booked, vacation approved and just waiting for the day to come!!!

Now to figure out what kind of costume to wear ... :-(

Hugz,
Tom 
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: joe_in_tampa on January 06, 2008, 03:50:25 pm
My roommate just told me it's going to be segregated (gay separate from straight).  I wonder why?  I would like to meet all people with HIV, not just gay boys.

I think that's a big mistake.  I feel like I'm segregated enough as it is!

Joe
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on January 06, 2008, 04:42:15 pm
My roommate just told me it's going to be segregated (gay separate from straight).  I wonder why?  I would like to meet all people with HIV, not just gay boys.

I think that's a big mistake.  I feel like I'm segregated enough as it is!

Joe

That's really not the case...

We are all on the same ship and there will be both mixed (gay/straight) evens as well as events catering strictly to heteros and gays.  The cruise originally was a hetero only cruise and several years ago they started allowing everyone with HIV to join.  We'll still be seeing our old friends and the excursions will be joint.  The idea is to broaden the number of people going.  It'll going to be a fun cruise.

Tom
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: DCGUY2007 on January 07, 2008, 01:47:06 am
I have been on other Gay cruises before but never a cruise dedicated to poz people. This one seems interesting. I hope I get to go.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: minismom on January 07, 2008, 01:50:16 pm
I wish they could figure out a way to make it more family friendly.  I looked on the website and no where did it mention any activities for children or even if children were allowed.  Not everyone who is HIV+ is over 20+, single, or married with out children.  And, there are some of us where our pozzie IS our child.  It would be great if they could incorporate entire families.  There's a lot of support that kids could get from each other, not to mention meeting kids "just like them" - whether they are jr. pozzies or children w/ pozzie parents. 

Mum
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: newbernswiss on January 07, 2008, 02:50:55 pm
Well we made a tough decision. The 5% won out. We own a small place up on Beech Mountain in North Carolina and decided to take both our families up for the summer. I'd love to enjoy the company of other HIV positive folks but family first. Maybe next year. Anyway going up to the cool mountains is a nice getaway from the heat of Florida.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on January 09, 2008, 04:14:28 pm
I wish they could figure out a way to make it more family friendly.  I looked on the website and no where did it mention any activities for children or even if children were allowed. 

It sounds like a great idea but perhaps that would be another cruise.  Perhaps on a Disney ship which caters more to children than the one currently planned out.  Maybe you should contact the organizer of the cruise and share the idea to see if he's heard from others in the same situation.  Paul (the organizer) is a very experienced travel agent and I am sure he'll work with you on this.

Tom
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on January 11, 2008, 09:31:16 am
For those of you thinking about going, Paul just indicated there is a special $100  deposit for reservations if you place them by 1/21.  Normally, there is a $250 deposit required.  The balance is due in early August.

http://www.hivcruise.com
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on January 11, 2008, 11:48:55 am
 ;D
Got our confirmation and cabin assignment yesterday...YEAH!

Only 289 days

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Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Jody on January 23, 2008, 06:22:06 pm
I faxed my form today to Paul...I guess I will get my confirmation soon...Any ideas on good flights and a good time to wait to book the round trip, what time to arrive in Ft. Lauderdale that Sunday, what time to book flight home the following Sunday.  I know I need to bring a suit or sports jacket and I guess a costume for Halloween... EEK!!! I'm scary enough!!!

Jody :D
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Iggy on January 23, 2008, 06:36:14 pm
Frankly I think it would be a hoot, unfortunately between Jeromy and my desire to attend AMG in August, family commitments in NY for May & June, and a recent offer from friends for a Las Vegas trip in July....I'm thinking it is kinda impossible for either of us to get the time off from work (and me not yet employed adds to the issue)

We do want you guys to have a ball though....so I'm gonna send my friend who was born with only one testicle.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: David_CA on January 23, 2008, 08:04:58 pm
We're going to try and do the cruise, but, between AMG and bills, it'll be a while 'til we have a clue as to if we'll be able to go.  I wasn't all that interested in it initially, but after reading up on it, it sounds like a blast!

David
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Oceanbeach on January 23, 2008, 08:42:15 pm
An idea, I would like to throw in the ring for a future AMG is www.windjammer.com (http://www.windjammer.com).  They have a selection of cruises and boats, the guests can assist in sailing the vessel or play and party.  Given the size of these sailboats, the entire guest list would be our group as a charter.  Have the best day
Michael

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on January 26, 2008, 09:11:39 am
Frankly I think it would be a hoot, unfortunately between Jeromy and my desire to attend AMG in August, family commitments in NY for May & June, and a recent offer from friends for a Las Vegas trip in July....I'm thinking it is kinda impossible for either of us to get the time off from work (and me not yet employed adds to the issue)

We do want you guys to have a ball though....so I'm gonna send my friend who was born with only one testicle.
Wish you boys could join us! I hope to meet you both someday!

I faxed my form today to Paul...I guess I will get my confirmation soon...Any ideas on good flights and a good time to wait to book the round trip, what time to arrive in Ft. Lauderdale that Sunday, what time to book flight home the following Sunday.  I know I need to bring a suit or sports jacket and I guess a costume for Halloween... EEK!!! I'm scary enough!!!

Jody :D
:)  Very good...the more the merrier!  :) We flew in the night before for the pre-cruise party and so I wasn't feeling rushed the morning of debarkation.  Halloween was to fun! I can't remember the last time i laughed and smiled so much.  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on January 26, 2008, 09:17:13 am
Only 274 days!


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Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: superkim24 on January 26, 2008, 07:53:41 pm
Just want to ask a quick question (excuse it's stupidity)

From where I sit In the little island in the Caribbean called Trinidad this trip is a steal of a deal and my neg boyfriend would love to go with me to the hetro cruise is that cool?

Kim
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: BriGuyNY,NY on January 27, 2008, 05:52:58 pm
Hi all.  I, as well as some of the last SIN-NYC gang, and maybe a few more, will be back on board creating havoc.  I / we had a great time, met some great people, and I'm looking forward to do it again.  Hope to see some of you on board as well
Brian

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Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: bosco on January 27, 2008, 06:16:25 pm
2008 POZ Cruise Retreat:
October 26 – November 2, 2008

Gay website
www.hivcruise.com

Hetro website
http://www.abcwebservice.com/hetero_poz_cruise/


Day 1 - Departs from Fort Lauderdale
Day 2 - Princess Cays, Bahamas
Day 3 - At Sea
Day 4 - St. Maarten, Netherlands Antilles
Day 4 - St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands
Day 5 - Grand Turk
Day 6 - At Sea
 Day 7 - Ft Lauderdale

Ship - Crown Princess
http://www.princess.com/learn/ships/kp/index.html



I can't decide whether to go on the cruise or AMG Mexico City...I can only do one. Right now I'm leaning towards the cruise since I'm only lukewarm about to Mexico. Now if Amsterdam had won...
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on January 28, 2008, 04:10:05 pm
Just want to ask a quick question (excuse it's stupidity)

From where I sit In the little island in the Caribbean called Trinidad this trip is a steal of a deal and my neg boyfriend would love to go with me to the hetro cruise is that cool?

Kim
Kim I've e-mailed Paul to confirm but I think POZ/negative couples are welcome on the cruise. I know of one neg/poz couple on the last cruise.  When he responds I'll post again herebut if you wanted to cal him in the meantime his toll-free number is 800-735-0401 ext 241
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: superkim24 on January 28, 2008, 04:16:20 pm
hi cmhjeff,

Thank you very much don't think I need to call him just yet if you get the info and post it soon that should be right on time.

hugs
Kim
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on January 28, 2008, 07:38:57 pm
I faxed my form today to Paul...I guess I will get my confirmation soon...Any ideas on good flights and a good time to wait to book the round trip, what time to arrive in Ft. Lauderdale that Sunday, what time to book flight home the following Sunday.  I know I need to bring a suit or sports jacket and I guess a costume for Halloween... EEK!!! I'm scary enough!!!

Jody :D

On the airfare front, contact Paul and he'll be able to help on the best price.  He's got a discount established with American Airlines but there may be alternatives.  It's always better to book sooner than later.  I would get to Fort Lauderdale the day before so you can attend the pre-cruise party.  Also, you never know what the weather will be like so it's a bit of insurance to make sure you are not delayed and end up missing the ship.  Paul can be reached via email at paul@universal-travel.com

Everyone else thinking about going, it is fun and you don't have to participate in *everything*.  Sometimes it's just good to get away from it all and enjoy the calm of the seas with people waiting on you.  I was unplugged (no computer or cell phone) for a whole week.  It was incredible and I am eagerly looking forward to the next opportunity to become 'unplugged'.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on January 29, 2008, 12:10:39 pm
hi cmhjeff,

Thank you very much don't think I need to call him just yet if you get the info and post it soon that should be right on time.

hugs
Kim
Hello Kim and and others who may be wondering,  Paul responded and the answer is yes. As long as one person is POZ then you can bring a negative partner or friend.

Hope this helps  :)

Jeff

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Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: superkim24 on January 29, 2008, 07:41:11 pm
 Thank you. I am  looking forward to coming, now that I know that, it is time to start making plans.
and of course time to get new bathing suits lol

Thanks again
Kim
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on January 29, 2008, 07:55:27 pm
Thank you. I am  looking forward to coming, now that I know that, it is time to start making plans.
and of course time to get new bathing suits lol

Thanks again
Kim
Don't forget the Halloween costumes  ;D

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Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on February 02, 2008, 04:59:26 pm
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Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on February 03, 2008, 02:39:41 pm
There is a good video explaining what goes on the cruise.  This was an interview with the organizer (Paul) that was done for a local television show. 

http://www.gaytravelfl.com/gay_mens_hiv_retreat/google_video.htm (http://www.gaytravelfl.com/gay_mens_hiv_retreat/google_video.htm)


Enjoy.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on February 18, 2008, 10:31:49 am
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Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on February 20, 2008, 08:16:03 am
Note from Paul the cruise organizer........Princess has allowed me to offer another one week sale where you are
able to sign up with only a $100.00 deposit. The promo will be begin on
this coming Monday, February 25 and end on Sunday, March 2.

I will need to receive filled out res forms in order to get you set up.
Please feel free to pass this on to your friends who may be thinking of
joining us.
Thanks,
Paul
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Blixer on February 21, 2008, 04:43:41 pm
Well, it looks like I'm on board for the cruise... Budndallastx tried to get me to go last year and this year he talked long enough that my paperwork is in.  Thanks Bud!  I'm excited about doing this... nervous, but excited.  And how many days do I have to wait cmhjeff???
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on February 21, 2008, 04:52:20 pm
Well, it looks like I'm on board for the cruise... Budndallastx tried to get me to go last year and this year he talked long enough that my paperwork is in.  Thanks Bud!  I'm excited about doing this... nervous, but excited.  And how many days do I have to wait cmhjeff???
That would be 247 days  ;D  I've got a countdown on our My Space page so I always know how much longer. Guess we'll be seeing you in Fort Lauderdale then. You'll have a great time!
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Roie on March 01, 2008, 06:13:33 pm
My partner and i are considering it. We are planning on travelling around Florida for 2 weeks prior to the cruise, then the cruise and return to Israel from Miami.
Seems like a wonderful thing to do, esp the cruise. most exciting indeed.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: poz1970 on March 01, 2008, 09:03:58 pm
wtb sugar daddy, so I can afford to go!

sigh

J
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on March 11, 2008, 11:43:30 am
Message from Paul copied from PozHealth@yahoogroups.com

Hello to All,

I am the person who coordinates and arranges the annual Poz Cruise Retreat.
I have been quite fortunate that this year we have two of the very best
guest speakers who will be on board with us to lead informative lectures and
workshops in addition to an open Q&A session. Both nationally known, Dr Michael
Wohlfieler and Nelson Vergel present clear, concise and highly informative
discussions.

It has proven over the last couple of years to be quite an exciting event
with a perfect blend of both social and educational events. Strong friendships
develop and yes we've even had proposals and weddings

The strong sense of bonding and community is like an aphrodesiac. It is contagious!

Each year it gets larger and larger and we hope that one day we can charter an entire ship. Ahhh wouldn't that be something special?

The dates are October 26 - November 2 and I invite you to please visit our
web sites.
www.hivcruise.com for our gay guests while www.positivecruise.com is for our straight guests. Rates begin at only $609.00 per person plus taxes.

All the best,

Paul Stalbaum
800-735-0401 ext 241

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: David_CA on March 11, 2008, 12:29:40 pm
Each year it gets larger and larger and we hope that one day we can charter an entire ship. Ahhh wouldn't that be something special?

We'd better be careful there; you never know who might just decide to sink that ship!   :D  Seriously, we'd like to join in, but I'm not sure if we can this year (I just got another hospital bill from '06 ???); plus, we'll be doing the AMG thing.  Hopefully, we can participate next year if not this year.

David
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: LiveWithIt on March 12, 2008, 10:08:06 am
 I am very excited about this.  I've looked into gay cruises before and they have been very expensive.  This one is very reasonable.  (Even for a single room)

I've only taken one cruise before and it was a four day cruise.  I did not meet any gay guys on board and I was placed in the dining room with a family of four ladies. Two in my age range.  They were nice, but it was a bit awkward.  The highlight of that cruise was the dining.  The highlight of this one will be meeting people.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on March 14, 2008, 08:58:44 pm
Paul is once again offering the chance to reserve for this
year's cruise with only a $100.00 per person deposit. This will be
valid for the week of April 1 - 7 only.

www.hivcruise.com

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Roie on March 16, 2008, 11:08:06 am
Yeah!!! I sent in my registration form for me and my partner.

Our plans are to be in the US 3 weeks, begining with a visit to a friend in Hueston for a couple of days.
Then hit Florida for a week and a half and end off with the cruise.

Very exciting indeed.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on March 17, 2008, 08:06:03 am
Yeah!!! I sent in my registration form for me and my partner.
Our plans are to be in the US 3 weeks, beginning with a visit to a friend in Hueston for a couple of days.
Then hit Florida for a week and a half and end off with the cruise.
Very exciting indeed.

FABULOUS! Lets fill the boat  :)
Only 223 Days   ;D
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on March 17, 2008, 09:15:05 am
Yeah!!! I sent in my registration form for me and my partner.

Our plans are to be in the US 3 weeks, begining with a visit to a friend in Hueston for a couple of days.
Then hit Florida for a week and a half and end off with the cruise.

Very exciting indeed.


Sounds like a good trip.  So how many days are you spending at Disney World???
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Roie on March 17, 2008, 01:29:47 pm
Sounds like a good trip.  So how many days are you spending at Disney World???



OOOO we want them all...Orlando is a big wonderful place.

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on March 19, 2008, 01:24:03 pm
Couple of notes on the cruise:


 Once again be offering the chance to reserve for this  year's cruise with only a $100.00 per person deposit. This will be valid for the week of April 1 - 7 only.


Also, air fares are going up again because of fuel costs so book your flight early if you're going !


Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on April 08, 2008, 10:35:12 pm
The HIV Cruise Retreat Raises $6000 for HIV/AIDS Causes
       FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla., April 8 (AScribe Newswire) -- Last October, a group of 225 HIV positive men and women went sailing away from the worries of the disease while obtaining key health information and raising funds for HIV non profit projects. In this 10th year, the retreat raised $6,000 for the non-profit Program for Wellness Restoration for their project to support the HIV international program of Doctors Without Borders. Over $30,000.00 has been raised over the past 10 years.
       "It is great to have people who have been challenged for years with fears of death enjoy life in the company of others who are on the same boat as they are," said Nelson Vergel, AIDS activist and lecturer on the cruise. "I am glad our project leader Paul Stalbaum has been able to make this possible for so many people to spend a week sailing the seas at affordable prices while they get key medical information and bond with others," added Vergel.
       "As a doctor who treats hundreds of HIV patients, I must say that spending a week with so many people having fun while being helped with medical information is an ideal scenario," said Dr Michael Wohlfieler, a leading South Florida HIV physician and featured speaker on the cruise.
       Sam, a long term survivor from San Francisco and participant of last year's cruise said: "We remember all too well when the virus was considered more or less a signal that it was time to get one's affairs in order. Thankfully those days are behind us. A week like the one I had on this cruise reminds me that life is rich and full and when the good times roll it can be downright amazing."
       "I will definitely not miss this year's cruise!" added Sam.
       "This year's cruise promises to be even better with a very exciting itinerary sailing over Halloween from Ft. Lauderdale with stops at Grand Turk (Turks and Caicos), St. Maarten, St. Thomas and Princess Cays," said cruise organizer Paul Stalbaum. "We will actually have separate fun activities for gay and straight groups, with some intermingling," added Stalbaum.
       For more information please call Paul at 800-735-0401 ext 241 or visit his two web sites: http://www.hivcruise.com for the gay group and http://www.positivecruise.com for the heterosexual group.
       - - - -
       CONTACT: Paul Stalbaum, Paul@universal-travel.com, 800-735-0401 ext 241
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: paultoole on April 20, 2008, 08:35:16 am
Hi there from Wet & Windy England.........

I would love to attend this cruise. I normally visit the States 4-5 times a year, but since starting meds in March, i'm so very worried about entering the States.
I would need to get thru customs at New York and then probably entering the ship itself.
I so want to be able to go on this trip, but dont want to be found out at the port of entry into the US.
Can or does anyone have advise? Are there any other Brits planning or going on this trip?
All feedback is greatly appriciated.

Paul
xxxx
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: lydgate on April 23, 2008, 09:27:18 pm
Are grad students allowed? Or are they banned for the fear they will bore everyone to tears with talk of research and journal articles and footn...zzzzz.  ;D

Jay
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Roie on April 24, 2008, 01:17:58 am
Are grad students allowed? Or are they banned for the fear they will bore everyone to tears with talk of research and journal articles and footn...zzzzz.  ;D

Jay

Jay, I am sure that in your case they will make an exception for gorgeous grad students.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: lydgate on April 24, 2008, 08:23:17 am
Jay, I am sure that in your case they will make an exception for gorgeous grad students.

Blushing furiously... thanks, Roie.

I've never been on a cruise or to the Caribbean; I'm seriously considering signing up for this.

Jay
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Roie on April 24, 2008, 10:05:19 am
Blushing furiously... thanks, Roie.

I've never been on a cruise or to the Caribbean; I'm seriously considering signing up for this.

Jay

Hope to see you Jay. Please do sign up. Why ever not?

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on April 24, 2008, 03:54:37 pm
Hi there from Wet & Windy England.........

I would love to attend this cruise. I normally visit the States 4-5 times a year, but since starting meds in March, i'm so very worried about entering the States.
I would need to get thru customs at New York and then probably entering the ship itself.
I so want to be able to go on this trip, but dont want to be found out at the port of entry into the US.
Can or does anyone have advise? Are there any other Brits planning or going on this trip?
All feedback is greatly appreciated.

Paul
xxxx
Sorry I didn't respond sooner I've been sick fighting a spring cold or allergies. Don't know if there are other Brits but Paul the organizer is a Florida travel agent and should be able to answer your questions about customs and attendees. Please e-mail him directly - paul@universal-travel.com
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on April 24, 2008, 03:57:49 pm
Are grad students allowed? Or are they banned for the fear they will bore everyone to tears with talk of research and journal articles and footn...zzzzz.  ;D

Jay
There are so many walks of life in the group. Everyone is welcome. There is no time to be bored!  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on April 24, 2008, 04:07:06 pm
Princess Cruises will be offering the last opportunity to sign up for this
year's cruise with only a $100.00 deposit during the week of May 5-
12. Paul does  not go into the office on the weekends so please try to get
your reservation forms in by Friday, May 9 to take advantage of this offer.

www.hivcruise.com for the gay group and www.positivecruise.com for the heterosexual group.
       CONTACT: Paul Stalbaum, Paul@universal-travel.com, 800-735-0401 ext 241


Only 185 Days  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on April 24, 2008, 05:24:39 pm
There are so many walks of life in the group. Everyone is welcome. There is no time to be bored!  ;)

The mix of people plus the activities on board make this a full and exciting week.  Of course, you can also just layout and read or whatever all week too.  There's really no pressure to be anywhere at a specific time other than making sure you're on the ship when it sails at the end of each day.

Also, the cruise is a great value because you get you food and drink (non-alcoholic) plus room for one price.  The food onboard is excellent and changes from day to day.  Of course, for those who are into a routine mealwise, you can get your sandwich and pizza every day as well.

Hope to see you aboard !!
Tom
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: lydgate on April 25, 2008, 04:17:29 am
Well, there better be cheap drinks, plenty of em (alcoholic), and a friendly cabin-mate I can find; cuz I'm probably signing up in May. Thank god for fat books to read in the sun. And my trusty blue Speedos.

Jay
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Roie on April 25, 2008, 10:53:53 am
Thank god for  my trusty blue Speedos.

Jay


 :D
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: DCGUY2007 on April 25, 2008, 12:50:50 pm
Looks like fun/ looking for roommate 
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Winiroo on April 25, 2008, 02:35:30 pm
I wish they could figure out a way to make it more family friendly.  I looked on the website and no where did it mention any activities for children or even if children were allowed.  Not everyone who is HIV+ is over 20+, single, or married with out children.  And, there are some of us where our pozzie IS our child.  It would be great if they could incorporate entire families.  There's a lot of support that kids could get from each other, not to mention meeting kids "just like them" - whether they are jr. pozzies or children w/ pozzie parents. 

Mum

They have camps down here for kids with HIV and their families.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: LiveWithIt on May 08, 2008, 04:22:19 pm
I faxed my info today for the cruise.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: LiveWithIt on May 09, 2008, 06:31:13 pm
I just found out that on May 19 the cruise line will take back certain rooms and the prices will increase so book as soon as you can.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on May 10, 2008, 09:13:25 am
I just found out that on May 19 the cruise line will take back certain rooms and the prices will increase so book as soon as you can.
Yes book now before the group rates are gone and get locked in before another gas surcharge.

The cruise is only 169 days away  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Roie on May 11, 2008, 04:39:04 am
The gay pre-cruise party will be at the Schubert Resort hotel, and I reserved our room for that pre-cruise weekend.
Most exciting!!!
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: LiveWithIt on May 12, 2008, 03:28:29 am
The gay pre-cruise party will be at the Schubert Resort hotel, and I reserved our room for that pre-cruise weekend.
Most exciting!!!


Do they have day passes? and if so, how much are they?
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: pink_beauty on May 13, 2008, 01:25:40 am
That trip sounds amazing! I don't think I will be able to afford it until I am done with school though. So maybe in 3 yrs :)
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on May 13, 2008, 04:39:29 pm
I just did an early cruise two weeks ago visiting Grand Turk and Princess Cay.  Princess is an awesome cruiseline and definitely a first class operation.  I think there is great value especially if you just do the local beaches.  At Grand Turk, the beach is right at the end of the dock free to all as is Princess Cay.  The color of the water is an incredible bright blue and the beaches are nice and clean.  Considering the fact the cruise includes your room and food, it's a great deal for a full week out on the high seas. 
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: DCGUY2007 on May 15, 2008, 09:46:18 pm

How much are the tickets to the pre-cruise party?
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Queen Tokelove on May 16, 2008, 12:26:14 am
I guess all of us poor people should find a central meeting place and catch the hound. I don't think anyone on disability could afford a cruise. And I agree Mum, it could've been thought out with people with kids in mind. Maybe this is just one of those cruises that is one step away from an orgy.

I know that last comment might have seemed harsh but to me that is what it seems like and whoever responded to Mum, I forget who, could've been more polite. The response sounded a bit catty. >:(
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on May 16, 2008, 09:18:00 am
I guess all of us poor people should find a central meeting place and catch the hound. I don't think anyone on disability could afford a cruise. And I agree Mum, it could've been thought out with people with kids in mind. Maybe this is just one of those cruises that is one step away from an orgy.

I know that last comment might have seemed harsh but to me that is what it seems like and whoever responded to Mum, I forget who, could've been more polite. The response sounded a bit catty. >:(
You are free to your opinion but I have to defend the cruise. Being on disability myself I do understand how the cost could be an issue for some but considering what you get it's a very good deal. If it wasn't for my employed partner who has wanted to give me the world since my PML diagnosis I don't know if I could go. I'm sure connections are made just as there are at AMG but the cruise is far from an orgy. For me living the past 3 years with PML I found the cruise spiritual and powerful. Being part of such a large crowd it allowed me to be myself and actually tell people I have PML (rather than stroke) without being judged. In fact just the opposite happened I was welcomed with love and support. When I stayed behind so my partner could take an excursion I physically could not there were plenty of others who stayed on the ship who helped me in the dining room and to mingle with on the decks. I did send Mum a PM previously to tell her about Camp Sunrise in Ohio for kids and I also suggested she contact the organizer of the cruise to discuss families and children because this may be a venue they could consider in the future.

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Queen Tokelove on May 16, 2008, 01:31:16 pm
You are free to your opinion but I have to defend the cruise. Being on disability myself I do understand how the cost could be an issue for some but considering what you get it's a very good deal. If it wasn't for my employed partner who has wanted to give me the world since my PML diagnosis I don't know if I could go. I'm sure connections are made just as there are at AMG but the cruise is far from an orgy. For me living the past 3 years with PML I found the cruise spiritual and powerful. Being part of such a large crowd it allowed me to be myself and actually tell people I have PML (rather than stroke) without being judged. In fact just the opposite happened I was welcomed with love and support. When I stayed behind so my partner could take an excursion I physically could not there were plenty of others who stayed on the ship who helped me in the dining room and to mingle with on the decks. I did send Mum a PM previously to tell her about Camp Sunrise in Ohio for kids and I also suggested she contact the organizer of the cruise to discuss families and children because this may be a venue they could consider in the future.

Jeff--

I guess I stand corrected but I will admit I was going by the posts here...."Well, there better be cheap drinks, plenty of em (alcoholic), and a friendly cabin-mate I can find" and one where someone said take the kids to Disneyland or something.

I am glad YOU at least will get something out of the cruise that appears to be spiritual and allows you to express yourself. But I still say some of the shipmates will be getting their freak on and will forget the purpose of the cruise. I guess all I can say is have at it.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on May 17, 2008, 09:06:53 am
Jeff--

I guess I stand corrected but I will admit I was going by the posts here...."Well, there better be cheap drinks, plenty of em (alcoholic), and a friendly cabin-mate I can find" and one where someone said take the kids to Disneyland or something.

I am glad YOU at least will get something out of the cruise that appears to be spiritual and allows you to express yourself. But I still say some of the shipmates will be getting their freak on and will forget the purpose of the cruise. I guess all I can say is have at it.

I suggested the Disney Cruiselines may be more fun for kids since mostg cruise lines tend to cater to the adults.  I also suggested in my post Mum contact Paul because he may know about other venues focused on children with HIV.  I don't believe my response was catty in the least and if it came across that way, I offer my most humblest apologies.

The cruise is geared to having people meet new friends and to connect with others in the same situation.  It definitely isn't the wild orgy and if it was, where was I.  It's just a good time and a chance to escape life's pressures for a week.  As Jeff indicated, this is a great way of meeting others who are positive and realizing you're not alone in the world which many of us feel in our daily lives.  It's also a time to learn new things about others and yourself. 

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on May 28, 2008, 08:49:38 am
This article written by one of last year's sailors is now on a new HIV website called www.beonecity.com

An Unforgettable Week at Sea

http://www.beonecity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=1&ed=1

151 days  :D
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on June 16, 2008, 03:26:38 pm
It's hard to believe the 2008 POZ cruise retreat is only four and a half months away, 132 days to be exact.  ;)  Jeffrey and I have been planning for this even before the 2007 cruise disembarked in Miami. The friendships and memories from last year will last a life time. I still smile thinking about the fun at the Halloween/costume party, I honestly never laughed so hard. Then during the Newlywed Game even I felt safe enough to get in front of a crowd where I was deemed Sophia and Jeffrey was Molly Goodhead.  ;D Straight, gay, white, black, male, female, healthy or sick we had one thing in common...HIV/AIDS. As for the passengers not part of the group we found them just as accepting and fun. There was the 40 something straight couple who asked Jeffrey in detail about his piercings (LOL) and then the elderly lady from the dolphin encounter who told me she sees the love Jeffrey has for me in his eyes and how he takes care of me. Last year was so much more than just a vacation! We feel lucky to have the opportunity to go again his year.

Counting down the days! You still have time too!

Jeff
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: LiveWithIt on June 16, 2008, 05:04:40 pm
Price wise, this is the most economical gay cruise that I have ever seen.
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Roie on July 01, 2008, 04:02:20 pm


Dates are approaching. Most exciting!!!
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on July 29, 2008, 05:29:45 pm
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Only 88 days! Thank goodness the splint is off my hand. Excursions are picked. Still need costumes!
Super excited!  :)

Who else is going?
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: SouthSam7 on August 03, 2008, 08:41:16 pm
I guess all of us poor people should find a central meeting place and catch the hound. I don't think anyone on disability could afford a cruise. And I agree Mum, it could've been thought out with people with kids in mind. Maybe this is just one of those cruises that is one step away from an orgy.

I know that last comment might have seemed harsh but to me that is what it seems like and whoever responded to Mum, I forget who, could've been more polite. The response sounded a bit catty. >:(

I have a couple of things to say regarding this post: One, there are avenues to get on the cruise, no matter your income.  It's probably too late for this year, but just inquire with plenty of notice for next year.  Also, there was nothing inappropriate for children last year in the common areas.  Finally, I suggest you try http://www.rfamilyvacations.com/ for completely child-inclusive cruises for gays and lesbians - like ALL cruises, Rosie's cost money, too.

I think you should go on the cruise, then judge later based on your experience. 
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Roie on September 11, 2008, 03:57:20 am
A month and a half to wait... Very exciting!!!

Dates are approaching very fast.

Unforetunately  though Grand Turk's pier and shopping  complex got destroyed by Hurricane Ike.  :(


Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on September 11, 2008, 07:28:06 pm
A month and a half to wait... Very exciting!!!
Dates are approaching very fast.
Unforetunately  though Grand Turk's pier and shopping  complex got destroyed by Hurricane Ike.  :(

Exciting doesn't begin to explain how we feel. 44 Days  ;D
Grand Turk isn't a no go just yet.

Worked on my tan today  :)
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on September 20, 2008, 04:01:13 pm
5 weeks today  ;D

Still need a costume  ???
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Winiroo on September 20, 2008, 06:59:03 pm
I think the ship is shared with a heterosexual positive group.

http://www.positivecruise.com/ (http://www.positivecruise.com/)

Wish I could be there. Have fun!
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: budndallastx on September 23, 2008, 11:50:39 am
Yes.  This is the other half of the cruise group.  Last year we were one big group but this way specific group activities can be created for the 'straight' and the 'gay' groups.  There are also going to be combined events as well so we'll be one big happy family on the ship !

33 days and counting ..
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on October 15, 2008, 05:18:07 pm
11 Days! So excited I could pee  ;D

Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: BriGuyNY,NY on October 15, 2008, 08:28:02 pm
Hi all, been off site for a while.  I too have been counting down, and can't wait to get out of NYC. As mentioned, I'm part of the SIN-NYC group.  I know there will be fellow SINNERS from Philly, DC, and SF.  Someone mentioned an AIDS-MEDS gathering...has that been planned?  Would like to finally meet some of you...last time was a mini group in the city on a cold sunday in January.  I think if one or 2 approach Paul at the pre-party or onboard hospitality table, he could arrange a place to meet.  Just a suggestion, and I will drop that in his ear.  For now, take care, and Bon Voyage
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on October 20, 2008, 10:23:32 am
 8) 6 Days See you soon!   8)
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on October 25, 2008, 07:04:49 am
Flying to FLL this morning. Staying at the Shubert and the cruise is tomorrow.  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Jody on October 25, 2008, 07:16:21 am
See you there Jeff, I'm loooking forward as well.

Jody  :)
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: John2038 on October 25, 2008, 07:22:14 am
First link is only for Gay Men’s

Second link (hetero) doesn't contains anything.

Enjoy !
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Jody on October 25, 2008, 03:39:37 pm
I arrived at the lovely Schubert Resort in Ft. Lauderdale about an hour ago and look forward to meeting folks in advance of tomorrow's cruise...It is a return to summer for me as it is about 80 and sunny and feels warmer than that with the Florida humidity....We are supposed to have a get together around 4 PM or so.  After a rough few weeks at work, we are short handed for a change, I look forward to some R & R and time away from the hustle and bustle.  New York is a great place to live in so many ways but getting away from it all is important as well.

If I don't post from the cruise I will see you all when I return...Take care and be well.

Jody  :)
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: Texan38 on October 25, 2008, 05:54:38 pm
Wow...sun, sea, beach, good company, boat full of men!...what a wonderful cruise! I'm sure you all are enjoying!
 :-*
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on November 19, 2008, 03:45:38 pm
A few pictures from a fabulously memorable week  at sea
Saving for next year already.

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=24124.0

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Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on November 19, 2008, 03:48:11 pm
One more, we were OSU Buckeye fans for Halloween.  ;D

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Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: GregoryD on November 20, 2008, 11:36:57 am
will there be a 2009 Cruise?
Title: Re: 2008 POZ Cruise Retreat
Post by: cmhjeff on November 20, 2008, 01:45:19 pm
will there be a 2009 Cruise?
Yes, for the 2009 Spring POZ gay cruise hosted by SIN (Strength In Numbers) go to
http://www.gaytravelfl.com/springcruise.htm

And for the 2009 Fall POZ cruise go to

http://gaytravelfl.com/gay_mens_hiv_retreat/