Blood on/in condom

[this_is_my_story]

Hi there,

first of all sorry for my english; I'm german and not a native english speaker.

Following situation happened yesterday: got (unprotected passive) oral sex, condom protected vaginal intercourse for maybe 2 minutes. Because it did not work I aborted the intercourse, pulled off the condom and we finished with oral sex (I was the passive part again). I would say my partner was a high risk woman.

After the whole situation I took a look at the condom and saw minimal liquids and minimal blood in (!) it. I was shocked instantly and tried to figure out what happened. Probably I turned the condom inside out by pulling it off but I'm not really sure about it.

So here are two scenarios: a) turned the condom inside out while I was pulling it off so it protected me  against HIV during intercourse (I hope so) or b) gum bleeding during oral sex before i pulled the condom *on* so the condom pressed the blood on my dick for two or three minutes during intercourse.

I'm freaking out since yesterday. Can't sleep, can't work, can't eat. Just panic.

What do you think? Never thought that safer sex will drive me mad...

[Jim Allen]

Hi

I read your post carefully, nothing you mentioned was a HIV risk.

Saliva is hostile towards HIV and nobody in the history of HIV/AIDS has ever been infected this way and you will not be making world history. So unless it was pouring out of her mouth in near liters you had not ever a theoretical risk, simply no risk.

The blood on the condom was also not a risk even if you turned it inside out as it was than in contact with air and HIV is no longer infectious once exposed to air

All in all, your risk assessment is you had no HIV risk, if this was your only concern it is safe to move on with your life.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing

Kind regards

Jim

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I would say my partner was a high risk woman.

[this_is_my_story]

Saliva is hostile towards HIV and nobody in the history of HIV/AIDS has ever been infected this way and you will not be making world history. So unless it was pouring out of her mouth in near liters you had not ever a theoretical risk, simply no risk.

I know that oral sex is no risk regarding HIV. I just developed the idea that she had bleeding gums during oral sex and after I pulled the condom on I created a no-air-to-the-blood-situation on my penis. In addition to that during intercourse I rubbed it in... I know it's quite unlikely.

What scared me was the fact that the blood was inside the condom after I pulled it off. Just checked it again and if I pull off a condom the way I did it yesterday it's really likely that it turns inside out. Maybe I'm overreacting.

The blood on the condom was also not a risk even if you turned it inside out as it was than in contact with air and HIV is no longer infectious once exposed to air

I know. The question is where the blood came from. Oral oder vaginal? If it came from vaginal intercourse the condom protected me. If it came from the oral sex happened before the intercourse I just pulled a condom over it...

Here in Germany the RKI (the german CDC) says that it takes over a minute to get HIV inactive outside the body.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.

I did!

[Jim Allen]

Getting a blowjob is absolutely not a risk for hiv infection. Not only is saliva not infectious, it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. These proteins and enzymes would have prevented any blood in her mouth from being able to infect you.

Unless you are in the habit of repeatedly punching someone in the mouth before they blow you, there could not possibly be enough blood or infectious blood present to worry about it.

You simply are not the going to be the first guy in human history to be infected this way.

I know. The question is where the blood came from. Oral oder vaginal? If it came from vaginal intercourse the condom protected me. If it came from the oral sex happened before the intercourse I just pulled a condom over it...

Here in Germany the RKI (the german CDC) says that it takes over a minute to get HIV inactive outside the body.

Seriously sexually HIV is only transmitted inside the human body and thankfully so otherwise it would be half the population infected not a mere 78 million over 40 years.

Lets be clear nobody has ever been infected sexually from HIV through contact once its been exposed outside the human body, no one ever. This really should tell you something. The concern you have is classed as spillage BTW and lacks the conditions needed to infect on top of that the receptors that HIV need to infect corrode on contact with the environment leaving it unable to infect human cells.

Look you can look online long enough you will find sites with all sorts or strange claims including aliens and  E.T. Its simply paranoia or out of context and/or outdated information and yes I have my concerns regarding Germany and the medical profession but that is a story for another day.

     I did!

In that case its safe for you to move on with your life.

Look you asked for a risk assessment, you been informed its not a risk and that nobody has ever been infected this way before. I've given you links with information for you to read if you wish.

End of the day take it or leave it. Whatever you do I wish you well, take it easy

Jim

[this_is_my_story]

ok, thanks for your explanations and you time. Will try to calm down.

[Jim Allen]

You're welcome.