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Title: The Secret
Post by: cokaine on June 28, 2007, 12:16:25 pm
http://www.thesecret.tv/home.html


Watch this movie. PLEASE do yourself a favor. It may or may not help you change your mood but it doesn't hurt to try it.
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: redhotmuslbear on June 28, 2007, 02:13:49 pm
http://www.th****ret.tv/home.html
Watch this movie. PLEASE do yourself a favor. It may or may not help you change your mood but it doesn't hurt to try it.



Mmmmm...... feel-good snake oil in a DVD with a burgeoning industry of high-priced retreats and peripheral materials.
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: milker on June 28, 2007, 02:59:58 pm
O NOZ  :o :o :o

Not the "Laws of Attraction" again !  ::) Where is the cabal ???

Milker.
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: Merlin on June 28, 2007, 05:54:32 pm
Is Paris Hilton in it ? ;D
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: Dachshund on June 29, 2007, 10:48:48 am
Pull my finger.
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: DanielMark on June 30, 2007, 04:37:42 pm
No secret that it's utter poppycock!

 ;)
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: Iggy on July 01, 2007, 07:03:35 pm
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but it doesn't hurt to try it.

Not exactly true.  I once wasted a lot of time and energy that I didn't have on a Pirelli's Miracle Elixir which of course didn't help me when I most needed assistance.  It was one of many factors that left me feeling even more isolated.

So to answer your point - yes...pseudo science and b.s. new ageist doctrines can in fact hurt.


 
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: DanielMark on July 02, 2007, 05:03:54 am
Magical thinking is . . .

well, usually a path to major disappointment at best.

Daniel
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: Tempeboy on July 02, 2007, 08:22:41 am
Magical thinking is . . .

A symptom of schizophrenia.
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: redhotmuslbear on July 02, 2007, 09:07:11 am
A symptom of schizophrenia.


....now, don't make me invoke the spirits of my ancestors while dancing naked around a model of Sonehenge, covered in sheep's blood and pig feces!  I gots me one awesome can of Celtic whoopass here, and I ain't afraids to use it!

GRRRRRR!
David
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: Tempeboy on July 02, 2007, 09:12:28 am
 ???
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: redhotmuslbear on July 02, 2007, 09:31:47 am
???

Sorry, the other me got out  ;D
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: Tempeboy on July 02, 2007, 09:48:34 am
Kewel,

I thought I had stirred something nasty.

I did like the secret.  Thought it had some interesting stuff to say about how you see yourself in the greater scheme of things. 

xx
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: redhotmuslbear on July 02, 2007, 11:19:23 am
I did like the secret.  Thought it had some interesting stuff to say about how you see yourself in the greater scheme of things. 


And Jim Jones had some good ideas about universal health care and housing a a human right.  "The Secret" is but the latest in a long line of "revelations" sprung on a spiritually needy public, accompanied by a thriving New Age industry of thousand-dollar DVDs and retreats.... hmm, sounds like Scientology minus the audits....

As is often said, you put make-up on a pig and dress it up, but it's still a pig.
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: JamieD on July 02, 2007, 12:07:09 pm
I don't like how people just assume that "The Secret" is crap. I saw the DVD and didn't see them trying to see me anything. All it cost me was $3 to rent it.  ??? Its not like Kevin Trudeau who baits you and then tries to make you pay for his "secret".
Although I thought the movie was a bit far fetched, I guess I took from it that we could all benefit from having a more positive outlook on life. A more positive outlook will help to deal with disappointments.
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: Central79 on July 02, 2007, 01:15:24 pm
A friend of mine is raving about this book. He's getting quite boring!

I haven't read it, but from our discussions it seems essentially fascistic - this business that we attract what we deserve or want is just nonsense to anybody who has been exposed to any bit of real life - the child who's molested? The cancer victim? The victim of a natural disaster?

I'm going to browse through this book when I get the opportunity. But I see it as a symptom of how intellectually lost the West has become (just look at the Hollywood production values), rather than any kind of a solution.

Matt.
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: JamieD on July 02, 2007, 01:54:50 pm
Just playing devil's advocate here, I do not agree with it:

A lot of times people do (unconciously) want "punishment" and "pain". Think of it like the people who marry many people who abuse them. They become comfortable in the cycle of abuse, even though they aren't literally asking for it.
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: redhotmuslbear on July 02, 2007, 03:04:35 pm
Just playing devil's advocate here, I do not agree with it:

Ummm..... "playing devil's advocate" is a particularly dangerous activity in online discussions, particuarly ones like this forum where the community depends on the sincerity and conviction of the particpants.  If you don't believe something, don't post it, for your own well-being.  It's a shame to take a drumming for words and ideas that are not your own.

As for the BS about survivors of abuse, being one myself I am disturbed by the juvenile lack of understanding of human relationships and development.  Someone living in the midst of partner violence is as comfortable as a soldier living on the front lines of a bloody and relentless war--one survives on adrenaline and hope, unable to see a way out but to go through the ugliness, not simply so one can wait for the next assault.

-D
Title: Re: The Secret
Post by: dufusmaximus on August 05, 2007, 02:28:32 pm
I think playing "devil's advocate" is a good way to see another point of view or angle, so i welcome it and practice it

as for The Secret, religions, special handshakes or magic oil -- if they make you feel better, i won't knock them...but for me, i prefer science  and math

and a semi-tanget, do you know any hiv positive scientologists?   what meds do they take or not take?  i know they eschew meds for mental problems?  what does xenu take on bad days? :)  ok, that was bad of me