Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
March 28, 2024, 12:00:15 pm

Login with username, password and session length


Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 772946
  • Total Topics: 66310
  • Online Today: 391
  • Online Ever: 5484
  • (June 18, 2021, 11:15:29 pm)
Users Online
Users: 1
Guests: 342
Total: 343

Welcome


Welcome to the POZ Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Do I Have HIV?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Author Topic: Raw is good  (Read 14307 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Raw is good
« on: August 30, 2007, 12:42:42 am »
Tonight I got a steak tartar

Raw ground beef
Raw egg
Salad

Raw is good.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline puertorico2006

  • Member
  • Posts: 957
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2007, 12:44:06 am »
Infected Probably: may 2005
Diagnosed: 11/2006

11/28/2006 CD4:309 / VL: 1907 No meds yet
12/27/2006 CD4:339/  VL:1649 No meds yet
  4/28/2007 CD4:550/  VL:1800 No meds :-)

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2007, 12:44:20 am »
these have always frightened me, and I'll try most anything once
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline puertorico2006

  • Member
  • Posts: 957
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2007, 12:44:50 am »
on a side note how safe is that actually to eat? ive eaten it before but do you ground your own beef? lol
Infected Probably: may 2005
Diagnosed: 11/2006

11/28/2006 CD4:309 / VL: 1907 No meds yet
12/27/2006 CD4:339/  VL:1649 No meds yet
  4/28/2007 CD4:550/  VL:1800 No meds :-)

Offline bryonut

  • Member
  • Posts: 283
  • I'm not just sure, I'm HIV positive!
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2007, 12:46:03 am »
Raw is good.

damn I thought this thread was going to be about something else.  >:(

Oink,
bry



Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2007, 12:47:35 am »
lol bryonut

to answer your question, puerto, i've yet to see warnings on eggs and ground beef saying that I should cook it before eating it.

I've had raw meat/eggs all my life and HIV is not going to change it.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline puertorico2006

  • Member
  • Posts: 957
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2007, 12:50:53 am »
I still eat sushi and love it so HIV doesn't really change my eating habits but if i had a low CD4 count id be hesitant
Infected Probably: may 2005
Diagnosed: 11/2006

11/28/2006 CD4:309 / VL: 1907 No meds yet
12/27/2006 CD4:339/  VL:1649 No meds yet
  4/28/2007 CD4:550/  VL:1800 No meds :-)

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2007, 01:00:27 am »
definitely with low numbers you should not indulge

can we move on to a discussion of epoisses?
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline puertorico2006

  • Member
  • Posts: 957
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2007, 01:07:01 am »

can we move on to a discussion of epoisses?

Why is it you always want to discuss cheese? ??? ;D ;D
Infected Probably: may 2005
Diagnosed: 11/2006

11/28/2006 CD4:309 / VL: 1907 No meds yet
12/27/2006 CD4:339/  VL:1649 No meds yet
  4/28/2007 CD4:550/  VL:1800 No meds :-)

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2007, 01:08:30 am »
Why is it you always want to discuss cheese? ??? ;D ;D

Because it's always lodged under the copious amounts of foreskin I encounter.  You should know about this considering how you're surrounded with it on that island.
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline thunter34

  • Member
  • Posts: 7,374
  • His name is Carl.
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2007, 01:09:46 am »
blech.


gross.
AIDS isn't for sissies.

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2007, 01:10:39 am »
Smegma graces me with extra t-cells, hun
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline puertorico2006

  • Member
  • Posts: 957
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2007, 01:11:25 am »
Because it's always lodged under the copious amounts of foreskin I encounter.  You should know about this considering how you're surrounded with it on that island.

LMAO  ;D ;D ;D actually ive been with more cut than uncut guys here....although i like uncut (but not with cheese)
Infected Probably: may 2005
Diagnosed: 11/2006

11/28/2006 CD4:309 / VL: 1907 No meds yet
12/27/2006 CD4:339/  VL:1649 No meds yet
  4/28/2007 CD4:550/  VL:1800 No meds :-)

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2007, 01:11:36 am »
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2007, 01:11:56 am »
Bon Appetit!

Milker
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline bryonut

  • Member
  • Posts: 283
  • I'm not just sure, I'm HIV positive!
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2007, 01:13:22 am »
uh.. i think im about to....

[attachment deleted by admin]

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2007, 01:14:25 am »
you folks are so SMEGMA-LITE
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline Ann

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 28,134
  • It just is, OK?
    • Num is sum qui mentiar tibi?
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2007, 06:15:00 am »

I've had raw meat/eggs all my life and HIV is not going to change it.

Milker.

You'll change your mind when you eat a raw egg that's infected with salmonella.

::)
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline RapidRod

  • Member
  • Posts: 15,288
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2007, 07:19:29 am »
He'll change his mind too if he gets tapeworms.

Offline Mouse

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,463
  • Om nom nom.
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2007, 09:26:02 am »

Offline Iggy

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,434
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2007, 09:27:44 am »
I used to LOVE eating raw chopmeat as a kid - whole handfuls of it.  My mom would always scream at me....actually I still like my burgers bloody and I always order my steak Black and Blue.

Funny as I write this I actually feel my canines almost throbbing.

As for their being no risk....are freaking kiddding me?

Offline northernguy

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,347
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2007, 09:37:30 am »
Because it's always lodged under the copious amounts of foreskin I encounter.  You should know about this considering how you're surrounded with it on that island.

I just vomited a little bit into my mouth.

But then again, that could just be my acid reflux. :)
Apr 28/06 cd4 600 vl 10,600 cd% 25
Nov 8/09 cd4 510 vl 49,5000 cd% 16
Jan 16/10 cd4 660 vl 54,309 cd% 16
Feb 17/10 Started Atripla
Mar 7/10 cd4 710 vl 1,076 cd% 21
Apr 18/10 cd4 920 vl 268 cd% 28
Jun 19/10 cd4 450 vl 60 cd% 25
Aug 15/10 cd4 680 vl 205 cd% 27
Apr 3/11 cd4 780 vl <40 cd% 30
Jul 17/11 cd4 960 vl <40 cd%33
April 15/12 cd4 1,010 vl <40 cd% 39
April 20/12 Switched to Viramune + Truvada
Aug 2/12 cd4 1040, vl <40, cd% 38
Oct 19 cd4 1,110 vl <40 cd% 41

Offline ademas

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,152
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2007, 09:46:19 am »
I've never had raw meat or eggs, and I haven't been able to eat sushi since a Korean client took me out for Korean sushi 10 years ago.  (From what I could ascertain, Korean sushi is nothing more than a pile of raw fish with a sprig of parsley on the side.)

I like things cooked within an inch of burnt.  I know...chef's hate me...

Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2007, 10:26:30 am »
http://www.fray.com/drugs/worm/

:D
I read two pages.. i'm afraid to go to the next page.. is there a monster pic there  :o

No Iggy i never said there was no risk..

Milker
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline bear60

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,105
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2007, 10:30:48 am »
Milkey
Where have you been?  There have been several threads on the dangers of raw.  So I guess this was a joke....oh ok haa haaa.
Poz Bear Type in Philadelphia

Offline aztecan

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,530
  • 36 years positive, 64 years a pain in the butt
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2007, 10:51:19 am »
Raw ground meat isn't safe. Raw eggs aren't safe. Not even for those who don't have HIV.

That is why most restaurants won't serve them. Most won't even serve rare hamburgers.

Of course, if you don't mind salmonella, e coli, intestinal parasites, etc., eat away.

As for the "head cheese"

EWWW!


« Last Edit: August 30, 2007, 10:52:52 am by aztecan »
"May your life preach more loudly than your lips."
~ William Ellery Channing (Unitarian Minister)

Offline dixieman

  • Member
  • Posts: 889
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2007, 11:07:07 am »
Milker, in your previous postings... you stated you've had numerous partners at the baths unprotected and under your profile you stated what a dumb ass mistake? so now your playing russian roulette with raw meat, uncooked eggs... etc... Mark made some good points... so now after all the warnings, knowledge youve ascertained you play russian roulette with you food? It only takes one bad egg... one possibly infected raw piece of meat to make you deathly ill.. Will you write to us and say what a dumb-ass I was for not taking precautions from the facts that are known? While you whine about your none treatable bacterial infections you aquired from your ignorance to the facts? or possible parasites youve contracted... I see your judgements are still in a fog... so if and more likely WHEN you get sick Please do not tell us because, you will get no sympathy from me.... its called please wake up....

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2007, 11:43:29 am »
Oh come on folks... it's a cultural thing.  Frenchies don't worry about such stuff like hand wringing Americans.  Look at all those raw milk cheeses -- and lemme tell you they rock.  Very. 

I wonder how much HIV food guidelines differ between the two countries considering this topic.

For my part, raw meat grosses me out... and I'm good about trying most anything foreign but I draw the line.  I don't even eat sushi.

However, due to how I was raised I EAT COOKIE DOUGH.  And I've never, EVER gotten ill from it, nor has anyone in my family during the +40 years I've been doing this.
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline thunter34

  • Member
  • Posts: 7,374
  • His name is Carl.
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2007, 12:24:39 pm »
just checking to see if this thread is still gross.



yep.
AIDS isn't for sissies.

Offline Iggy

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,434
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2007, 12:54:26 pm »
However, due to how I was raised I EAT COOKIE DOUGH.  And I've

Iggy awaits the chunky dough smegma stories

Offline Ann

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 28,134
  • It just is, OK?
    • Num is sum qui mentiar tibi?
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2007, 01:11:53 pm »
Whether or not someone LIKES raw meat/eggs may be cultural, but let me tell you, with modern "factory" farming, you are seriously taking you life in your hands to eat that stuff raw. Most beef cattle spend their last months on crowded feed lots, where they stand in their own shit for the duration. It's an e.coli paradise. Same thing for poultry - they're kept in appalling conditions.

But whatever. If Milker wants to make himself ill, I guess that's his business. Just so long as it's made clear that raw meat and eggs are NOT something people with hiv should be eating. :-X
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2007, 01:21:06 pm »
Yeah I hear you all..

http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/schwarzengrund.html

 >:(

Milker (who listens)
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline woodshere

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,474
  • ain't no shame in my game
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2007, 01:44:15 pm »
Just so long as it's made clear that raw meat and eggs are NOT something people with hiv should be eating. :-X

Or for that matter anyone.  Just not a good idea.
"Let us give pubicity to HV/AIDS and not hide it..." "One of the things destroying people with AIDS is the stigma we attach to it."   Nelson Mandela

Offline redhotmuslbear

  • Member
  • Posts: 605
  • A genuine certified freak of nature, and a hot one
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2007, 02:08:09 pm »
Or for that matter anyone.  Just not a good idea.


I'm definitely in the raw foods loving set.  Tomorrow's breakfast special at work is Huevos Rancheros, and it's the one time I'll eat eggs sunny-side up.  Last Sunday at brunch in Manhattan with a friend I went right for the fagged-out take on Eggs Benedict.  The weekend before I gorged on Ethiopian kitfo made with raw beef and cheese curd.  While I recognize the increased risk of food-borne illness with these delights, I mitigate the risk by seeking dishes that either pair the raw with heavy spices (koseret in kitfo) or go well with spicy accompaniments (hot sauce with the huevos).  Well.... then there's my fascination with licking cake batter and frosting, but I might well eat fine Venezuelan chocolate off Larry Craig's scrotum... chocolate makes everything better.....

In 42 years I've only become sick from a food-borne pathogen twice, though.  Once with hep A at a Korean buffet locally--it wasn't the raw fish, it was a buggy employee.... that's how I was finally backed into being tested for HIV, too.  The other time from well water a few weeks later in SE Oklahoma in 115F-degree heat at my grandfather's burial.

The human mouth and penis are far more rife with bacteria that my hunk of raw tuna dragged through wasabi-laced soy, I figure, but I still keep kissing and sucking.

Peace,
David
"The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF Skinner
12-31-09   222wks VL  2430 CD4 690 (37%)
09-30-09   208wks VL  2050  CD4 925 (42%)
06-25-08   143wks VL  1359  CD4 668 (32%)  CD8 885
02-11-08   123wks off meds:  VL 1364 CD4 892(40%/0.99 ratio)
10-19-07   112wks off meds:   VL 292  CD4 857(37%/0.85 ratio)

One copy of delta-32 for f*****d up CCR5 receptors, and an HLA B44+ allele for "CD8-mediated immunity"... beteer than winning Powerball, almost!

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2007, 02:09:40 pm »
hee
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline pozattitude

  • Member
  • Posts: 909
  • Enjoy
    • to find out more about me....
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2007, 02:38:26 pm »
i love bloody juice rare meat.

One of my favorite dishes is an Arab dish called "kibe" that you might want to try.   I learned this from Sirian/Lebanese friends I have from when I lived in Brazil.

2 pounds ground beef
0.5 pound tabbouleh wheat
1 onion, finely diced
salt and pepper to taste
mint (preferably fresh, minced, about 4 tbsp.)
lime juice (1 tbsp.)
coriander



Soak the tabbouleh wheat in cold water to cover by at least 2 inches. Leave it overnight or 4 hours minimum. Drain extremely well.

Mix the meat, wheat, all the other ingredients and serve with Pita bread and drizzled olive oil.

now if you must cook your meat... you can

Assemble in a baking pan, like you would do for a cake - it should be about 2 inches high.
Cover with aluminum foil, bake at 350F for 30 minutes, remove the foil, make shallow cuts with a knife forming a diamond pattern. Drizzle some olive oil on top (lightly), put back in the oven, uncovered, bake for 40 minutes more, or until nicely browned on top.

Cut into squares to serve - it is delicious hot or cold

or you shape the mix like meatballs and deepfry them too.

I'm hungry now...lol







POSITIVE PEDALERS... We are a group of people living with HIV/AIDS, eliminating stigma through our positive public example.

Offline David_CA

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,246
  • Joined: March 2006
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2007, 02:54:16 pm »
Rich,
It sounds like you're talking about eating raw Middle Eastern meatloaf!  Actually, ground beef is the worst beef to eat uncooked or rare, so I hope you were kidding about eating that raw.

David
Black Friday 03-03-2006
03-23-06 CD4 359 @27.4% VL 75,938
06-01-06 CD4 462 @24.3% VL > 100,000
08-15-06 CD4 388 @22.8% VL >  "
10-21-06 CD4 285 @21.9% VL >  "
  Atripla started 12-01-2006
01-08-07 CD4 429 @26.8% VL 1872!
05-08-07 CD4 478 @28.1% VL 740
08-03-07 CD4 509 @31.8% VL 370
11-06-07 CD4 570 @30.0% VL 140
02-21-08 CD4 648 @32.4% VL 600
05-19-08 CD4 695 @33.1% VL < 48 undetectable!
08-21-08 CD4 725 @34.5%
11-11-08 CD4 672 @39.5%
02-11-09 CD4 773 @36.8%
05-11-09 CD4 615 @36.2%
08-19-09 CD4 770 @38.5%
11-19-09 CD4 944 @33.7%
02-17-10 CD4 678 @39.9%  
06-03-10 CD4 768 @34.9%
09-21-10 CD4 685 @40.3%
01-10-11 CD4 908 @36.3%
05-23-11 CD4 846 @36.8% VL 80
02-13-12 CD4 911 @41.4% VL<20
You must be the change you want to see in the world.  Mahatma Gandhi

Offline pozattitude

  • Member
  • Posts: 909
  • Enjoy
    • to find out more about me....
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2007, 02:57:12 pm »
Rich,
It sounds like you're talking about eating raw Middle Eastern meatloaf!  Actually, ground beef is the worst beef to eat uncooked or rare, so I hope you were kidding about eating that raw.

David

I don't eat it raw anymore, I used too, but I'm just scared now, although I do give in to sushi from time to time.
POSITIVE PEDALERS... We are a group of people living with HIV/AIDS, eliminating stigma through our positive public example.

Offline Tim Horn

  • Member
  • Posts: 797
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2007, 03:02:56 pm »
For raw egg lovers -- cookie dough monsters and Caesar salad fanatics take note -- pasteurized eggs are now available in the U.S. Essentially, the eggs are heated to 120 to 135 degrees to kill off bacteria -- yolks and whites only coagulate if the eggs are heated to 136 degrees or higher.

Davidson's "Safe Eggs" may not be easy to find, but they're out there.

Tim Horn

Offline dixieman

  • Member
  • Posts: 889
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2007, 03:32:58 pm »
I think I'll go and eat some fresh green spinach... oh I can't its being recalled ...infected with ecoli... I'm going to eat mexican with some friends tonight... I love mex-tex... hopefully its prepared correct.. I rarely eat out anymore... I worked in resturants when in college... I know the horrors of how some people handle food... 76 million people in the USA get a food born illness each year, 325 thousand are hospitalized and over 5,000 die... this is just in the United States...

Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2007, 04:46:13 pm »
I did some research on French sites and didn't find much about salmonella and HIV. I found much more information on french Canadian sites. I guess in France we eat mayonnaise almost every day.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2007, 04:47:38 pm »
I believe commercial mayo in the US is pasteurized so let's not unnecessarily worry the worried wells here.
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2007, 04:49:47 pm »
I believe commercial mayo in the US is pasteurized so let's not unnecessarily worry the worried wells here.
I was thinking about French mayo made fresh everyday at bistros, not the one you buy in stores.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2007, 04:56:01 pm »
I was thinking about French mayo made fresh everyday at bistros, not the one you buy in stores.

Milker.

Well, it IS delicious and superior.  I've made mayo fresh at home myself though not often.  Most Americans have never had it, nor even know what is involved.

I thought it prudent to post what I did as in previous threads on this topic someone always chimes in that they read not to eat mayo, assuming it also meant the ones from jars.
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline sdcabincrew74

  • Member
  • Posts: 540
    • My Manhunt account
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2007, 11:47:36 pm »
Tonight I got a steak tartar

Raw ground beef
Raw egg
Salad

Raw is good.

Milker.

Raw is good when it comes to sex. 

As for that meal, gross!  The Frenchies each gross things.  :P
The difference between an overnight and a layover is luck!

Offline dixieman

  • Member
  • Posts: 889
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2007, 03:31:32 pm »
Well a few years back in Paris, France... not Texas... I was eating at an acclaimed resturant... I watched a man eating a delicacy in France... a wonderful covered dish came out... the waiter took the cover off the dish and revealed a little bird ...the costumer put a napkin over his face as he devored the little bird... the bird was not cooked blood splattered on the napkin and I was totally Grossed out... I do think the little birdie was dead at least and it was warm... but not cooked. It was too much for me to continue eating... so I asked for a bottle of wine and drank myself silly with my friend Donna.... I've never eaten there again... I enjoy country french food from the bordeaux area... the people there can cook and the wine is awesome... Paris can keep its delicacies... as I say to each its own... bon appetit!

Offline dixieman

  • Member
  • Posts: 889
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2007, 03:35:57 pm »
Milker... I re-read my reply to your raw food... I am not a complete asshole... we all grew up with different food taste etc... you seem like a nice person and I was just worried that your taking some un-neccessary risk... but, hey life is a risk as we all understand that!

Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2007, 11:08:58 pm »
Milker... I re-read my reply to your raw food... I am not a complete asshole... we all grew up with different food taste etc... you seem like a nice person and I was just worried that your taking some un-neccessary risk... but, hey life is a risk as we all understand that!
Dixie, I can take a good beating when it's warranted. I've been slapped by many on here and I may slow to get it sometimes, true. No worries :)

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline bryonut

  • Member
  • Posts: 283
  • I'm not just sure, I'm HIV positive!
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2007, 11:12:52 pm »
Well a few years back in Paris, France... not Texas... I was eating at an acclaimed resturant... I watched a man eating a delicacy in France... a wonderful covered dish came out... the waiter took the cover off the dish and revealed a little bird ...the costumer put a napkin over his face as he devored the little bird... the bird was not cooked blood splattered on the napkin

Milker, what delightful dish might this be?

Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Re: Raw is good
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2007, 11:18:52 pm »
Milker, what delightful dish might this be?
I read that and I have no clue. Can't be quails, they're cooked like chicken.

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

 


Terms of Membership for these forums
 

© 2024 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.