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Off Topic Forums => Off Topic Forum => Topic started by: milker on August 30, 2007, 12:42:42 am
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Tonight I got a steak tartar
Raw ground beef
Raw egg
Salad
Raw is good.
Milker.
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Raw is good.
Milker.
I agree ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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these have always frightened me, and I'll try most anything once
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on a side note how safe is that actually to eat? ive eaten it before but do you ground your own beef? lol
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Raw is good.
damn I thought this thread was going to be about something else. >:(
Oink,
bry
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lol bryonut
to answer your question, puerto, i've yet to see warnings on eggs and ground beef saying that I should cook it before eating it.
I've had raw meat/eggs all my life and HIV is not going to change it.
Milker.
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I still eat sushi and love it so HIV doesn't really change my eating habits but if i had a low CD4 count id be hesitant
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definitely with low numbers you should not indulge
can we move on to a discussion of epoisses?
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can we move on to a discussion of epoisses?
Why is it you always want to discuss cheese? ??? ;D ;D
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Why is it you always want to discuss cheese? ??? ;D ;D
Because it's always lodged under the copious amounts of foreskin I encounter. You should know about this considering how you're surrounded with it on that island.
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blech.
gross.
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Smegma graces me with extra t-cells, hun
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Because it's always lodged under the copious amounts of foreskin I encounter. You should know about this considering how you're surrounded with it on that island.
LMAO ;D ;D ;D actually ive been with more cut than uncut guys here....although i like uncut (but not with cheese)
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(http://homepage.mac.com/bedstuy65/.Pictures/smegma.jpg)
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Bon Appetit!
Milker
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uh.. i think im about to....
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you folks are so SMEGMA-LITE
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I've had raw meat/eggs all my life and HIV is not going to change it.
Milker.
You'll change your mind when you eat a raw egg that's infected with salmonella.
::)
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He'll change his mind too if he gets tapeworms.
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He'll change his mind too if he gets tapeworms.
http://www.fray.com/drugs/worm/
:D
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I used to LOVE eating raw chopmeat as a kid - whole handfuls of it. My mom would always scream at me....actually I still like my burgers bloody and I always order my steak Black and Blue.
Funny as I write this I actually feel my canines almost throbbing.
As for their being no risk....are freaking kiddding me?
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Because it's always lodged under the copious amounts of foreskin I encounter. You should know about this considering how you're surrounded with it on that island.
I just vomited a little bit into my mouth.
But then again, that could just be my acid reflux. :)
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I've never had raw meat or eggs, and I haven't been able to eat sushi since a Korean client took me out for Korean sushi 10 years ago. (From what I could ascertain, Korean sushi is nothing more than a pile of raw fish with a sprig of parsley on the side.)
I like things cooked within an inch of burnt. I know...chef's hate me...
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http://www.fray.com/drugs/worm/
:D
I read two pages.. i'm afraid to go to the next page.. is there a monster pic there :o
No Iggy i never said there was no risk..
Milker
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Milkey
Where have you been? There have been several threads on the dangers of raw. So I guess this was a joke....oh ok haa haaa.
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Raw ground meat isn't safe. Raw eggs aren't safe. Not even for those who don't have HIV.
That is why most restaurants won't serve them. Most won't even serve rare hamburgers.
Of course, if you don't mind salmonella, e coli, intestinal parasites, etc., eat away.
As for the "head cheese"
EWWW!
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Milker, in your previous postings... you stated you've had numerous partners at the baths unprotected and under your profile you stated what a dumb ass mistake? so now your playing russian roulette with raw meat, uncooked eggs... etc... Mark made some good points... so now after all the warnings, knowledge youve ascertained you play russian roulette with you food? It only takes one bad egg... one possibly infected raw piece of meat to make you deathly ill.. Will you write to us and say what a dumb-ass I was for not taking precautions from the facts that are known? While you whine about your none treatable bacterial infections you aquired from your ignorance to the facts? or possible parasites youve contracted... I see your judgements are still in a fog... so if and more likely WHEN you get sick Please do not tell us because, you will get no sympathy from me.... its called please wake up....
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Oh come on folks... it's a cultural thing. Frenchies don't worry about such stuff like hand wringing Americans. Look at all those raw milk cheeses -- and lemme tell you they rock. Very.
I wonder how much HIV food guidelines differ between the two countries considering this topic.
For my part, raw meat grosses me out... and I'm good about trying most anything foreign but I draw the line. I don't even eat sushi.
However, due to how I was raised I EAT COOKIE DOUGH. And I've never, EVER gotten ill from it, nor has anyone in my family during the +40 years I've been doing this.
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just checking to see if this thread is still gross.
yep.
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However, due to how I was raised I EAT COOKIE DOUGH. And I've
Iggy awaits the chunky dough smegma stories
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Whether or not someone LIKES raw meat/eggs may be cultural, but let me tell you, with modern "factory" farming, you are seriously taking you life in your hands to eat that stuff raw. Most beef cattle spend their last months on crowded feed lots, where they stand in their own shit for the duration. It's an e.coli paradise. Same thing for poultry - they're kept in appalling conditions.
But whatever. If Milker wants to make himself ill, I guess that's his business. Just so long as it's made clear that raw meat and eggs are NOT something people with hiv should be eating. :-X
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Yeah I hear you all..
http://www.cdc.gov/salmonella/schwarzengrund.html
>:(
Milker (who listens)
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Just so long as it's made clear that raw meat and eggs are NOT something people with hiv should be eating. :-X
Or for that matter anyone. Just not a good idea.
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Or for that matter anyone. Just not a good idea.
I'm definitely in the raw foods loving set. Tomorrow's breakfast special at work is Huevos Rancheros, and it's the one time I'll eat eggs sunny-side up. Last Sunday at brunch in Manhattan with a friend I went right for the fagged-out take on Eggs Benedict. The weekend before I gorged on Ethiopian kitfo made with raw beef and cheese curd. While I recognize the increased risk of food-borne illness with these delights, I mitigate the risk by seeking dishes that either pair the raw with heavy spices (koseret in kitfo) or go well with spicy accompaniments (hot sauce with the huevos). Well.... then there's my fascination with licking cake batter and frosting, but I might well eat fine Venezuelan chocolate off Larry Craig's scrotum... chocolate makes everything better.....
In 42 years I've only become sick from a food-borne pathogen twice, though. Once with hep A at a Korean buffet locally--it wasn't the raw fish, it was a buggy employee.... that's how I was finally backed into being tested for HIV, too. The other time from well water a few weeks later in SE Oklahoma in 115F-degree heat at my grandfather's burial.
The human mouth and penis are far more rife with bacteria that my hunk of raw tuna dragged through wasabi-laced soy, I figure, but I still keep kissing and sucking.
Peace,
David
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hee
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i love bloody juice rare meat.
One of my favorite dishes is an Arab dish called "kibe" that you might want to try. I learned this from Sirian/Lebanese friends I have from when I lived in Brazil.
2 pounds ground beef
0.5 pound tabbouleh wheat
1 onion, finely diced
salt and pepper to taste
mint (preferably fresh, minced, about 4 tbsp.)
lime juice (1 tbsp.)
coriander
Soak the tabbouleh wheat in cold water to cover by at least 2 inches. Leave it overnight or 4 hours minimum. Drain extremely well.
Mix the meat, wheat, all the other ingredients and serve with Pita bread and drizzled olive oil.
now if you must cook your meat... you can
Assemble in a baking pan, like you would do for a cake - it should be about 2 inches high.
Cover with aluminum foil, bake at 350F for 30 minutes, remove the foil, make shallow cuts with a knife forming a diamond pattern. Drizzle some olive oil on top (lightly), put back in the oven, uncovered, bake for 40 minutes more, or until nicely browned on top.
Cut into squares to serve - it is delicious hot or cold
or you shape the mix like meatballs and deepfry them too.
I'm hungry now...lol
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Rich,
It sounds like you're talking about eating raw Middle Eastern meatloaf! Actually, ground beef is the worst beef to eat uncooked or rare, so I hope you were kidding about eating that raw.
David
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Rich,
It sounds like you're talking about eating raw Middle Eastern meatloaf! Actually, ground beef is the worst beef to eat uncooked or rare, so I hope you were kidding about eating that raw.
David
I don't eat it raw anymore, I used too, but I'm just scared now, although I do give in to sushi from time to time.
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For raw egg lovers -- cookie dough monsters and Caesar salad fanatics take note -- pasteurized eggs are now available in the U.S. Essentially, the eggs are heated to 120 to 135 degrees to kill off bacteria -- yolks and whites only coagulate if the eggs are heated to 136 degrees or higher.
Davidson's "Safe Eggs (http://safeeggs.com/)" may not be easy to find, but they're out there.
Tim Horn
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I think I'll go and eat some fresh green spinach... oh I can't its being recalled ...infected with ecoli... I'm going to eat mexican with some friends tonight... I love mex-tex... hopefully its prepared correct.. I rarely eat out anymore... I worked in resturants when in college... I know the horrors of how some people handle food... 76 million people in the USA get a food born illness each year, 325 thousand are hospitalized and over 5,000 die... this is just in the United States...
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I did some research on French sites and didn't find much about salmonella and HIV. I found much more information on french Canadian sites. I guess in France we eat mayonnaise almost every day.
Milker.
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I believe commercial mayo in the US is pasteurized so let's not unnecessarily worry the worried wells here.
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I believe commercial mayo in the US is pasteurized so let's not unnecessarily worry the worried wells here.
I was thinking about French mayo made fresh everyday at bistros, not the one you buy in stores.
Milker.
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I was thinking about French mayo made fresh everyday at bistros, not the one you buy in stores.
Milker.
Well, it IS delicious and superior. I've made mayo fresh at home myself though not often. Most Americans have never had it, nor even know what is involved.
I thought it prudent to post what I did as in previous threads on this topic someone always chimes in that they read not to eat mayo, assuming it also meant the ones from jars.
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Tonight I got a steak tartar
Raw ground beef
Raw egg
Salad
Raw is good.
Milker.
Raw is good when it comes to sex.
As for that meal, gross! The Frenchies each gross things. :P
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Well a few years back in Paris, France... not Texas... I was eating at an acclaimed resturant... I watched a man eating a delicacy in France... a wonderful covered dish came out... the waiter took the cover off the dish and revealed a little bird ...the costumer put a napkin over his face as he devored the little bird... the bird was not cooked blood splattered on the napkin and I was totally Grossed out... I do think the little birdie was dead at least and it was warm... but not cooked. It was too much for me to continue eating... so I asked for a bottle of wine and drank myself silly with my friend Donna.... I've never eaten there again... I enjoy country french food from the bordeaux area... the people there can cook and the wine is awesome... Paris can keep its delicacies... as I say to each its own... bon appetit!
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Milker... I re-read my reply to your raw food... I am not a complete asshole... we all grew up with different food taste etc... you seem like a nice person and I was just worried that your taking some un-neccessary risk... but, hey life is a risk as we all understand that!
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Milker... I re-read my reply to your raw food... I am not a complete asshole... we all grew up with different food taste etc... you seem like a nice person and I was just worried that your taking some un-neccessary risk... but, hey life is a risk as we all understand that!
Dixie, I can take a good beating when it's warranted. I've been slapped by many on here and I may slow to get it sometimes, true. No worries :)
Milker.
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Well a few years back in Paris, France... not Texas... I was eating at an acclaimed resturant... I watched a man eating a delicacy in France... a wonderful covered dish came out... the waiter took the cover off the dish and revealed a little bird ...the costumer put a napkin over his face as he devored the little bird... the bird was not cooked blood splattered on the napkin
Milker, what delightful dish might this be?
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Milker, what delightful dish might this be?
I read that and I have no clue. Can't be quails, they're cooked like chicken.
Milker.