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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: woodyscared on October 22, 2013, 04:19:10 pm

Title: HELP Cunnilingus with piercing and fluids
Post by: woodyscared on October 22, 2013, 04:19:10 pm
Thanks you for all the support on this board.
Recently I had unprotected Cunnilingus with a private escort after she masterbated with a long vibrator and also just had a piercing on her clitoris a couple days prior.  I know this was stupid, but didn't think about it at the moment.  No, I don't have meth mouth, but do have ulcerated stomach I take meds for.   She had a lot of fluid around her vagina and my tough and mouth, was right in the middle of it.   I'm sure I swallow a lot of it too since it went on for about 10-20min.  Concerned with the amount of fluid and the recent piercing may of have blood, but not sure.  What is my risk?  Do I need to test?  I have symptoms around 10-14 days of a headache that was so bad I couldn't equalize my ears for over a week.  Mouth dry, tension all over head, sweating, but no fever I can remember.  Let me know what I should do.  You state no need to test for Cunnilingus all over and I just wanted to make sure this is the case with that much fluid after she masterbated with a vibrator deep in the vagina and a new piercing.  Don't know status of woman.
Title: Re: HELP Cunnilingus with piercing and fluids
Post by: Joe K on October 22, 2013, 05:30:27 pm
Nothing you have stated is a risk for HIV infection and you have no need to test over this incident.  HIV infection comes from unprotected penetrative sex, not from cunnilingus.

Joe
Title: Re: HELP Cunnilingus with piercing and fluids
Post by: woodyscared on October 22, 2013, 06:24:28 pm
Joe,
Thanks for your quick reply.  I'm still going to get tested at 30 days tomorrow, just to make sure.  I was more concerned about the amount of vaginal fluid and possible internal fluid pulled out by the vibrator that I was in contact with even with tongue inserted in vagina, but you have set my mind at ease.  Anything else I should get tested for based on this type of contact.  I know this is an HIV site, and understand if you don't reply.  Just curious and thanks for all the good information you guys provide.  This is a great site.  Thanks again and keep up the great work.
Title: Re: HELP Cunnilingus with piercing and fluids
Post by: Jeff G on October 22, 2013, 06:55:03 pm
Hiv transmission doesn't stand a chance of happening via female genitals to mouth - there are just too many obstacles on the oral route.

The first obstacle is the mouth itself. The mouth is a veritable fortress, standing against all sorts of pathogens we come into contact with every minute of our lives. It's a very hostile environment and saliva has been shown to contain over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv.

Hiv is a very fragile virus - literally. Its outer surface doesn't take kindly to changes in its preferred environment; slight changes in temperature, moisture content and pH levels all damage the outer surface. Importantly, it needs this outer surface to be intact before it can latch onto a few, very specific cell types and infect. 

Which leads to the second obstacle. Hiv can only latch onto certain types of cells, cells which are not found in abundance in the mouth.

The third obstacle to transmission this way is having hiv present in the first place. The female secretion where hiv has been shown to be present is the cervicovaginal fluid. This fluid is actually a thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix.

The fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from the Bartholin's glands, located on either side of the vaginal opening. I have yet to discover one shred of evidence (and believe me, I've looked) that shows this lubricating fluid to have any more hiv present than other bodily secretions such as saliva, sweat or tears. Saliva, sweat and tears are NOT infectious fluids.

So there you have it. Once the results of the serodiscordant studies started rolling in, what we know about hiv transmission on the cellular level was validated. The only people who were getting infected were those who had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. Period. One of the three studies went on for ten years and involved hundreds of couples.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME for this incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!