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Title: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on March 13, 2010, 04:04:29 pm
Alright so yesterday I got my numbers.

I'm proud to report I'm at a cd4 of 101 and viral load of 80 my former numbers 3 months ago were CD4 of 16 and VL of 4580.  Thanks for all the support guys and I made my goal of getting those Cd4s over 100 so WOOHOO!

Love you all am house sitting for a friend this week so no idea ho mwuch I'll be online.

-Trey
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: skeebo1969 on March 13, 2010, 04:22:12 pm


   Good stuff!!
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Assurbanipal on March 13, 2010, 04:39:27 pm
Great news!
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Post by: aferstilo on March 13, 2010, 04:57:31 pm
Nice!! From here it only gets better man!
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Matty the Damned on March 13, 2010, 05:03:56 pm
AIDS Wombat welcomes this news.

(http://tool.shagnasty.net/wiki/images/6/6b/Wombat2.jpg)

:)

MtD
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: PeteNYNJ on March 13, 2010, 05:43:30 pm
...but what about the side effects? side effects? SIDE EFFECTS?????   ;D

Onward and upward!  When do you go for your next draw?  3 months? 

Pete
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: bmancanfly on March 13, 2010, 07:56:02 pm
great news

 continued good luck
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Post by: leatherman on March 13, 2010, 08:06:32 pm
good news!
hope you have continued bettering health!
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: phildinftlaudy on March 13, 2010, 09:31:22 pm
Congrats Trey
And thank you for all of your support
 :)
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: WillyWump on March 13, 2010, 10:40:24 pm
Great news Trey! Congrats!

-Will
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Rev. Moon on March 13, 2010, 11:08:58 pm
Congrats Trey!  Wishing you always the best :)
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: tednlou2 on March 14, 2010, 01:47:36 am
Congrats!  I've always admired people like you.  I mean people with low CD4s who keep it together and know things will be okay.  I worry about my situation.  It helps me to realize that if you have the resolve to know things will get better, as they are, I should definitely stop worrying so much.

All the best for higher and higher numbers!   

Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: GSOgymrat on March 14, 2010, 03:17:18 am
Good news! :)
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: J.R.E. on March 14, 2010, 07:07:18 am


Sounds Great ! Before you know it, you'll hit 200 and will be able to stop the Bactrim, shortly after.



Take care----Ray
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: tommy246 on March 14, 2010, 07:09:39 am
congradulations thats a great start.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Nashvegas on March 14, 2010, 11:40:13 pm
That's great news, Trey.  You'll be out of the woods before too long! 
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Angel-Ronnie on March 15, 2010, 05:19:12 am
Hellboy, congrats, it can only get better from here, and like they say it all start with small steps at first.

Ron
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: David_CA on March 15, 2010, 08:18:22 am
Congrats and keep 'em movin' on up (and the viral load down)!
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on March 15, 2010, 09:38:24 am
Thanks again everyone for the support.

Pete, ayup 10 weeks until blood draw, 12 weeks for another doctor's visit.

Ted, You can either fall apart or soldier on.  I don't really recommend falling apart to anybody it doesn't help anything :D
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on June 14, 2010, 01:23:46 pm
Update:

New Numbers

CD4: 92,  VL: UD  (48 copies or less since UD is different in different places)

I hate to lose ground on the CD4 but the VL being UD is kind of awesome.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: skeebo1969 on June 14, 2010, 01:26:39 pm
Update:

New Numbers

CD4: 92,  VL: UD  (48 copies or less since UD is different in different places)

I hate to lose ground on the CD4 but the VL being UD is kind of awesome.

Congrats Trey on becoming undetectable. 
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: HippieLady on June 14, 2010, 01:42:23 pm
Congrats Trey!!

I hope I'll be joining the undectable club soon. ;)
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Post by: peteb on June 14, 2010, 03:16:09 pm
Great job Trey
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Post by: Boze on June 14, 2010, 04:58:38 pm
Keep up the good work!
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Post by: Nestor on June 14, 2010, 05:31:40 pm

Congratulations!
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: BlueMoon on June 14, 2010, 08:05:36 pm

I hate to lose ground on the CD4 but the VL being UD is kind of awesome.

It's probably going to take a couple of years to come back from 16 t-cells, but Phase 1 is to beat down the virus.  So a big 'thumbs-up' for that!
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: john33 on June 14, 2010, 09:17:03 pm
Update:

New Numbers

CD4: 92,  VL: UD  (48 copies or less since UD is different in different places)

I hate to lose ground on the CD4 but the VL being UD is kind of awesome.

That's great news trey
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: WillyWump on June 14, 2010, 10:23:33 pm
YAY You!

*sorry I dont have a pic of a witty buck-toothed animal to post.

-Will
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on January 21, 2011, 03:16:31 pm
Update:

New Numbers

CD4: 92,  VL: UD  (48 copies or less since UD is different in different places)

I hate to lose ground on the CD4 but the VL being UD is kind of awesome.

Numbers from January 11th:

CD4: 133
VL: UD
CD4%: 15 (this is up from 8% the last time I checked it so the biggest and most encouraging gain from this set of labs)
LDL: 110
HDL: 56
Testosterone: 592

Still making upward progress on the CD4, albeit very very slowly.  I think my LDL is a little high but considering the amount of junk I eat coupled with the meds that's really no surprise.  Doctor did say my good cholesterol was very good.  Anyway I think I'll get another blood draw in 3-4 months just to keep up with my progress.

Edit:  The downsides are I'm still going through mild anxiety on a pretty much daily basis which I presume is caused by the sustiva and I've started developing a tingling in my toes coupled with numbness, this comes and goes, but has been happening off and on for about a month now.  Unfortunately this is what I'm guessing this is some sort of peripheral neuropathy it just seems way too damn early for that seeing as I've only been on meds for a year and a half now.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: peteb on January 21, 2011, 03:25:01 pm
Thats great Trey
awesome
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: eric48 on January 21, 2011, 08:17:22 pm
Hi,

Great numbers!

Cholesterol: are you kidding ? Total cholesterol and low HDL is a concern for many people.

The Holy grail of cholesterol is to have HDL above 60 and a ratio LDL/HDL less than 2 (for a man).
The framingham study and its consequence the Framingham risk index (google for it) is a score based risk calculator
that adds up 'risk' points (age, diabetes, high LDL, HIV infection itself... add to the score).

That rating system has a notable few exceptions, the one of most interest is that some markers score negatively.
they DEDUCT from your score, in other words they are BONUS points.

Risk calculators based on the above depend on local guidelines (due to factors such as food/lifestyle/ethnicity in various parts of the world)

So I am not putting hard numbers in the following comment but one thing can be said:
- HDL > 60 and LDL/HDL > 2 are such heavyweights in the various scoring systems that they kind of erase anything else.

So your cholesterol numbers are very very good and should be the least of your concerns !

Your other numbers are restoring consistently: there is no rush

I am very happy for you !

Eric
   
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: J.R.E. on January 21, 2011, 09:26:22 pm
Numbers from January 11th:


 I've started developing a tingling in my toes coupled with numbness, this comes and goes, but has been happening off and on for about a month now.  Unfortunately this is what I'm guessing this is some sort of peripheral neuropathy it just seems way too damn early for that seeing as I've only been on meds for a year and a half now.


Good job on the numbers!!  Have you mentioned this numbness and tingling to your Doctor?

My neuropathy started about 3-4 months, after starting on meds. But I don't think the neuropathy was med related.  More from the virus, and a crapped out immune system at that time.


Ray



Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: WillyWump on January 21, 2011, 09:26:41 pm
Testosterone: 592


You bitch.


But congrats on everything else! Excellent progress :)

-Will
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: skeebo1969 on January 21, 2011, 09:33:47 pm
You bitch.


But congrats on everything else! Excellent progress :)

-Will

I got Mr. Limpy and Trey beat.... 760 all natural.. biotch!
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: drewm on January 21, 2011, 10:47:04 pm
Alright so yesterday I got my numbers.

I'm proud to report I'm at a cd4 of 101 and viral load of 80 my former numbers 3 months ago were CD4 of 16 and VL of 4580.  Thanks for all the support guys and I made my goal of getting those Cd4s over 100 so WOOHOO!

Love you all am house sitting for a friend this week so no idea ho mwuch I'll be online.

-Trey


Congrats on the numbers Trey! What med(s) are you on?

Drew
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on January 22, 2011, 02:09:05 am
I only take Atripla and a multivitamin daily.  I'm supposed to also be on Mepron, but I don't like/take it.  My doctor also said I may want to get on Biaxin, but I need to do some research on it.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: tednlou2 on January 22, 2011, 02:52:05 am
Trey, I've missed you around here.  Where have you been?  I'm a little worried about you not taking the Mepron, but you've heard all that and I'm sure you're sick of hearing it.  I'm certainly in no position to tell people about taking meds.     

Anyway, it was good hearing from you.  Congrats on the improvement!  That percentage increase must be reassuring with the continued UD viral load.   
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on January 22, 2011, 02:56:16 am
Trey, I've missed you around here.  Where have you been?  I'm a little worried about you not taking the Mepron, but you've heard all that and I'm sure you're sick of hearing it.  I'm certainly in no position to tell people about taking meds.     

Anyway, it was good hearing from you.  Congrats on the improvement!  That percentage increase must be reassuring with the continued UD viral load.   

Just working a lot more, was kind of disenchanted with the forums, dealing with a lot in real life so less time to keep up with all the threads on here.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: wolfter on January 22, 2011, 04:28:50 pm
Disenchanted?  Oh such a polite way of saying it.  I had to give myself a timeout a while back also.  One thing I was curious about, how did you keep your vl sow low while having such a low CD4 count and why did you wait to start meds?  Just curious -
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on January 22, 2011, 05:06:06 pm
Disenchanted?  Oh such a polite way of saying it.  I had to give myself a timeout a while back also.  One thing I was curious about, how did you keep your vl sow low while having such a low CD4 count and why did you wait to start meds?  Just curious -

My VL was controlled by the meds really quickly, the CD4 count has almost nothing to do with it.  Without the VL being so high it's allowing my CD4 to recover.  As for waiting to start meds, when I was diagnosed my first blood draw's numbers were catastrophically low.  It took about 2 months for me to get approved through ADAP while I hovered in that extremely low CD4 and massive VL range before I could actually get on meds.  I was calling constantly to try to begin the process.  The best guess is I was infected anywhere from 5-10 years before I was diagnosed.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: WillyWump on January 22, 2011, 05:25:18 pm
Were you drunk dialing me yesterday?

-Will
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on January 22, 2011, 05:57:30 pm
Were you drunk dialing me yesterday?

-Will

I was trying to tell you about my numbers before I told everyone else :P
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: drewm on January 22, 2011, 08:02:45 pm
My doc places more emphasis on the VL than he does the CD 4 count. I am still relatively to all of this and am trying to understand. The way I understand it is that everyone's CD-4 can vary but only HIV poz peeps have a viral load and keeping that down is more important.

Anyone??
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Rev. Moon on January 22, 2011, 08:20:44 pm
The best guess is I was infected anywhere from 5-10 years before I was diagnosed.

Chile, ten years ago?  Were you doing the truck-stop circuit at the tender age of 17? 

Congrats on your improvement.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on January 22, 2011, 08:24:58 pm
Chile, ten years ago?  Were you doing the truck-stop circuit at the tender age of 17? 

Congrats on your improvement.

Thanks and no, definitely not.



I started much earlier than that.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on May 18, 2011, 06:59:57 pm
CD4: 149
CD4%: 12
VL: <20

The drop in CD4% is troubling to me, down from 15% 3 months ago, but without a rebound in VL I don't know why this would happen?
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Miss Philicia on May 18, 2011, 07:07:56 pm
Some people that went down to single digits upon diagnosis just take a long, long time to rebuild their immune system, and have periodic dips in their numbers.  What did your doctor say?

Also, are you still not taking your PCP prophylactic?
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on May 18, 2011, 07:12:54 pm
Some people that went down to single digits upon diagnosis just take a long, long time to rebuild their immune system, and have periodic dips in their numbers.  What did your doctor say?

Also, are you still not taking your PCP prophylactic?

I am not. I asked him about dapsone in place of mepron (as I was seeing him due to yet another staph infection) and I guess he didn't hear what I said.  I have plans to talk to him as soon as we're both free as I've been incredibly busy lately.  He just told me what the CD4, CD4% and VL were.  The staph infection might have something to do with it,  because I know your CBC rises when you have an active infection, which could make the CD4% lower 'artificially'.

Edit: oh and I always do my blood work at like 7-8am so they might be a little lower than they would be if I were to take them in the afternoon.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: J.R.E. on May 18, 2011, 07:16:07 pm
CD4: 149
CD4%: 12
VL: <20

The drop in CD4% is troubling to me, down from 15% 3 months ago, but without a rebound in VL I don't know why this would happen?


I understand how frustrating that can be.  In December my percentage was 19, on the last blood test, in March, it was 15%.  ( a drop of 4%).  I've been kind of used to this during these past 8 years of treatment.  Percentage is always up and down.

Ray
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Miss Philicia on May 18, 2011, 07:28:13 pm
I find it seriously worrying that you've not been taking something for PCP for as long as you have.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Buckmark on May 18, 2011, 07:37:22 pm
CD4: 149
CD4%: 12
VL: <20

The drop in CD4% is troubling to me, down from 15% 3 months ago, but without a rebound in VL I don't know why this would happen?

Patience, Mr. Hellraiser.  From what I've read and what my doctor tells me, it can take a long time for the immune system to build itself.  Years.  The awesome part is that your viral load is under control.  I'm not sure there's more you can do, except continue to keep it under control, and let your immune system rebuild itself.  

Oh, you could / should also be taking your PCP prophylactic.   >:(   But I think that's been covered here before.

Henry
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on May 18, 2011, 07:39:00 pm
Quiet you two, Will might hear you!  I said I was investigating Dapsone!
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: J.R.E. on May 18, 2011, 07:48:54 pm
Q  I said I was investigating Dapsone!

You can't take Septrin ( Bactrim)  ? You need to be on something.  



http://www.aidsmap.com/Septrin-cotrimoxazole/page/1044766/
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Miss Philicia on May 18, 2011, 08:03:45 pm
Quiet you two, Will might hear you!  I said I was investigating Dapsone!

Please Mary, you said you were just soooo busy!  You've not taken anything for PCP for ages. I'm thinking close to a year. Didn't having PCP once frighten you enough not to get it again?

I bet you're not too busy to hole up weekly in Stall #13 at 515 Toulouse St (http://www.theclubs.com/page.cfm?location=neworleans).
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: WillyWump on May 18, 2011, 08:09:05 pm
Quiet you two, Will might hear you! 

I heard my name and WTF! You mean to tell me you STILL are not taking your prophylactics, even after my 1.5 hour phone speach to you? Ghurl! I want my 1.5 hours back.

and what's this "investigating" Dapsone? Bitch they are going to be "investigating" your death if you dont take your pills. Now be a good girl and drink your juice Shelby.

Grrrrrrr. Kids!

-Will
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: leatherman on May 18, 2011, 08:32:49 pm
Some people that went down to single digits upon diagnosis just take a long, long time to rebuild their immune system, and have periodic dips in their numbers.
i totally agree

it was 1999 when I was last down to 12
my cd4 didn't even hit a 200+ number until 2005
(that was a full 7.5 yrs after I had pneumonia - PCP was 9.5 earlier)
it didn't stay consistently above 200 until 2007
so I stayed on bactrim for 10 yrs.

i too think you're playing with fire HR. ;) with ony 149 cd4s you should still be treating your health as if you in the "aids zone". Just because you're vl is UD doesn't prevent an OI from being a problem when your immune system is that low.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Rev. Moon on May 18, 2011, 08:34:46 pm
I find it seriously worrying that you've not been taking something for PCP for as long as you have.

I agree.

Ms. Trey, you need to stop eating what the chicken pecks and reassess this matter.  You deserve a good smacking around, Moonstruck style.  Get serious, chile.  
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Miss Philicia on May 18, 2011, 08:40:00 pm
I wish my Toulouse St. research was receiving more attention. :'(
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: WillyWump on May 18, 2011, 08:55:50 pm
I wish my Toulouse St. research was receiving more attention. :'(

Well if it helps, I hovered over it but then decided against clicking on it.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Buckmark on May 19, 2011, 12:12:39 am
Quiet you two, Will might hear you!  I said I was investigating Dapsone!

What's to investigate?  Do it!  You've had PCP once.  You've read the stories of other members here who have had PCP, and how it has permanently damaged their lungs, and reduced their lung function.

I don't get it.     ???  

Regarding Toulouse St., I'm thinking Mr. Hellraiser is more likely to be found either upstairs at The Phoenix, or in the back room at Rawhide.   What say you, Trey?

Edited to add:  Dapsone is also use to treat leprosy and skin infections, two very real possibilities if he is spending time at any of the establishments we have mentioned. 



Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: tednlou2 on May 19, 2011, 12:42:42 am
I don't have anything to add, except I thought of you, Trey, when NBC News was live in Natchez talking about the river being shut down.  I know there's been a lot of ribbing about truck stops, but what about all those barge captains, deck hands, and seamen?  Oh, you should take your prophylactic med.  Has that been said here? 
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on May 19, 2011, 01:39:17 am
Regarding Toulouse St., I'm thinking Mr. Hellraiser is more likely to be found either upstairs at The Phoenix, or in the back room at Rawhide.   What say you, Trey?

Busted.

I do plan on going on dapsone I actually took Mepron pretty religiously for 6 months and then I just couldn't stomach the taste any more.  Meant to get on Dapsone then but I was a lot less outspoken to my doctor then so I just stopped (and started again due to someone's well intentioned nagging).
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Miss Philicia on May 19, 2011, 01:57:46 am
So you're willing to risk a week in a hospital because of "taste"? Honey, you got AIDS -- it's not a sommelier course.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on May 19, 2011, 02:05:21 am
So you're willing to risk a week in a hospital because of "taste"? Honey, you got AIDS -- it's not a sommelier course.

I was optimistic that my CD4 would increase to the point that the prophylaxis would be unnecessary.  I was amazingly disappointed.  I'll get on something.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: skeebo1969 on May 19, 2011, 06:51:09 am
 
I was optimistic that my CD4 would increase to the point that the prophylaxis would be unnecessary.  I was amazingly disappointed.  I'll get on something.

Perhaps you need to make some changes to your lifestyle.   I know you need to pay the bills and everything, but do you suspect all these long hours working as having anything to do with it?

I'll be honest Treybie, this concerns me.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: phildinftlaudy on May 19, 2011, 08:07:34 am
Trey - all jokes aside (even though they were funny) - you need to be addressing this now - not planning it, but doing it.... don't throw away all the gains you have made by neglecting to take care of what you need to take care of.  You started this new update by saying that you were concerned about the drop in your cd4% - if you are actually concerned about it, then take the dayummm meds to prevent the PCP.  You know that getting your cd4% up is based on a host of factors - one includes ensuring that you are preventing other infections that you are susceptible to from your counts being under 200.  Don't let this virus get the upper hand.

Care about you dude ---- now get busy and take care of yourself --- dayuuummm it!

Now, back to the jokes:
What did one math book say to the other?

Answer: You think you've got problems?
 ;D
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Ann on May 19, 2011, 08:54:10 am
Why does Etay keep popping into my mind as I read this thread? Hmm?
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: zaid on May 19, 2011, 09:24:43 am
good luck, and keep it up  :)
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: WillyWump on May 19, 2011, 05:21:55 pm
I do plan on going on dapsone

Lie.

stomach the taste any more. 
ROFLMAO.

but I was a lot less outspoken to my doctor then so I just stopped
Brilliant!  ::)

(and started again due to someone's well intentioned nagging).
There's more where that came from.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: mikeyb39 on May 19, 2011, 07:31:59 pm
you better take care of yourself sexy hellraiser.  I want to be able to take advantage of you when i visit NOLA soon.  hehe.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Ann on May 19, 2011, 07:47:13 pm
Why does Etay keep popping into my mind as I read this thread? Hmm?

Why do I feel the need to repeat myself?
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: anniebc on May 19, 2011, 09:15:23 pm
Why do I feel the need to repeat myself?

Because some people just don't listen Ann

Trey I hope you are listening and doing something about this...seriously, don't mess about with this.

Aroha
Jan :-*
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: tednlou2 on May 20, 2011, 12:23:07 am
Why does Etay keep popping into my mind as I read this thread? Hmm?

I thought the same thing, but didn't want to make the comparison.  I know they are different, but feels just a tad similar.  Trey, I hope you're not mad at us.  You know we love ya! 
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Ann on May 20, 2011, 06:56:37 am
I thought the same thing, but didn't want to make the comparison.  I know they are different, but feels just a tad similar.  Trey, I hope you're not mad at us.  You know we love ya! 

It feels very similar. Trey, I bet you're thinking "I feel ok" and "it won't happen to me (again)". Very similar to how Etay thought. Wise up please, before you find yourself back in hospital on a ventilator. With CD4s like yours, hiv meds aren't always enough. Get on a prophylaxis ASAP before it's too late!
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: skeebo1969 on May 20, 2011, 07:22:29 am



   I always thought Etay and Trey looked eerily similar as well.. maybe we should start calling him Etrey.
Title: Re: My first set of numbers on meds!
Post by: Hellraiser on May 20, 2011, 11:13:12 am


   I always thought Etay and Trey looked eerily similar as well.. maybe we should start calling him Etrey.

:P