The only one looking silly is you for popping in just to be petty .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13993866And you say other people sit in judgement? Is that statement I have underlined a judgemental statement by you? Also, who is not to say that DSK's money did not buy his way out of this one? We have also seen that happen here in the US (remember O.J.?) --- his defense team was being paid to dig up any dirt, any inconsistency, or other info that could call in to question the primary witness/victim's credibility. Remember, just because a person's credibility is called into account - does not automatically mean that an incident didn't occur. I actually don't feel silly - I feel that this person's (DSK) power and $$$$$ possibly bought his way out of this -- but, that is okay, cause in the end, predators and rapists always get caught.... if not on this case, then on the next one.
They have found evidence that this woman has lied and lied and lied from the very beginning, and as well as that appeared to have lied about her asylum application, the story for which she now admits to be totally false!
Well, there you go. All those people who sought to sit in judgement on DSK right at the start, even after some pleaded for a bit of patience, must be feeling pretty silly now.
Once again, plenty of women lie about rape and sexual assault and do real victims no favours at all.
And you say other people sit in judgement? Is that statement I have underlined a judgemental statement by you?
And *PART* of the reason for that is Juries seeing how many cases involve malicious false claims, so Juries have been erring on the side of NOT convicting unless they believe the guilt without one tiny fraction of doubt!
That was a statement of verifiable fact.
It has been reported on many many times both over there, and here in the UK, that the number of women making malicious false claims of sexual assault has gradually risen over the last 20 years.
So it is a fact and not a judgement. It happens frequently and that can't be denied.
That's a very good thing considering that is exactly how the legal system in the US is supposed to work. "Beyond a shadow of a doubt" means there can be no room for doubt in a conviction.
As for Dominique Strauss Kahn if it's true that his accuser lied about it all then I'm glad he's going free, but don't forget that this was not the first accusation made of him and that probably played a larger part in this whole investigation than you're giving it credit for.
I guess we have to wait until the trial.
Pretty easy for a multimillionaire super smart and powerful man to smear everything about a woman with her life story.
You clearly cant read. Is that the meds doing that?
Please provide a citation to a study showing these claims have outpaced population growth...
I'll wait for the official announcements before I believe anything about either party.
We don't know yet.
... like that will be happening
Where there is smoke there is fire. He abused his power.
Not saying that proves he is a rapist.
This seems to be morphing into an anti-American rant thread.
This seems to be morphing into an anti-American rant thread.
Really?Matt - once again, while you may not be personally attacking anyone - however, you are attacking the country that various members reside in --- while no one is attacking the country that you reside in. Could you please be considerate of that?
What a contradiction.
On that basis you should campaign for the posthumous conviction of JFK and Edward Kennedy for manslaughter. After all, they were most definitely guilty of that in at least two cases.
Clinton?
He was almost hounded out of office for his penchant for sex with interns, but by people who had no interest in the well-being of the vulnerable women he prayed upon but because they didn't like his politics.
Hypocrisy is a hallmark of politics in many places, and supremely so in the USA.
Matt - once again, while you may not be personally attacking anyone - however, you are attacking the country that various members reside in --- while no one is attacking the country that you reside in. Could you please be considerate of that?
Really?
What a contradiction.
On that basis you should campaign for the posthumous conviction of JFK and Edward Kennedy for manslaughter. After all, they were most definitely guilty of that in at least two cases.
Clinton?
He was almost hounded out of office for his penchant for sex with interns, but by people who had no interest in the well-being of the vulnerable women he prayed upon but because they didn't like his politics.
Hypocrisy is a hallmark of politics in many places, and supremely so in the USA.
Some of my best friends are Americans. 8)
Miss Philicia: I've been travelling to and from the USA for more than two decades and I have long standing friendships with Americans, with many of whom I share the same views. None of them would ever say 'Don't attack my country!', like its some kind of possession. And neither would most of my friends here in the UK respond like that to criticisms of the UK either.
I respect the fact that you choose to adopt that attitude - I just don't agree with it and I don't believe it has much to do with freedom of expression or democratic rights. I hold those values as of much greater value than 'patriotism'.
There was a major difference between Clinton and Monica Lewinski and DSK and the maid --- the difference? Clinton was never accused of raping Ms. Lewinski (she admitted from the beginning that their sexual activities were consentual), so to even bring up that he should have faced criminal charges and compare it to the violent act of rape that DSK is alleged to have committed against the hotel maid is completely unacceptable and just wrong.
There was a major difference between Clinton and Monica Lewinski and DSK and the maid --- the difference? Clinton was never accused of raping Ms. Lewinski (she admitted from the beginning that their sexual activities were consentual), so to even bring up that he should have faced criminal charges and compare it to the violent act of rape that DSK is alleged to have committed against the hotel maid is completely unacceptable and just wrong.
You've made comments in other threads that seem to veer a bit too close to some "lite" version of a National Front member
There is as much evidence that JFK's behaviour towards a vulnerable Marilyn Monroe led to her suicide. A reasonable case for manslaughter could be made.
you have got to be kidding....
Clinton prayed on many women - Lewinsky was but one example of a litany of naive, vulnerable women that he used. Whether he committed any statute crimes may be debatable. That he used his position of power to get sexual gratification from subordinate women (and long before he was President!!!) is not in dispute.
What about Senators and Congressmen who were known to prey on male student interns?
Don't you remember that?
Boys coerced into being fucked by powerful politicians sounds just like a form of rape to me.
I don't see any of them ever having ended up in a big cell with a few violent offenders.
I'm done even engaging in this thread
What about Senators and Congressmen who were known to prey on male student interns?
Don't you remember that?
Boys coerced into being fucked by powerful politicians sounds just like a form of rape to me.
I don't see any of them ever having ended up in a big cell with a few violent offenders.
Thank heavens for that! ;)
Now everybody repeat after me: What do we do with trolls?...
Grease them liberally, put them in a sling and fuck them until their eyes pop out?
MtD
Gatekeeper at the troll line: "OK, you trolls quit shoving! You each will get your turn in the sling!"
Such a disgusting, filthy thread. Just reading it makes me wanna eat some Freedom Frahs while listening to some Toby Keith. I will pray to the good lord Jeebus for Matt39's salvation.
Happy 4th of July from the good ol' USofA.
MMMMM - he's cute, sandy vagina and all ---(http://tool.shagnasty.net/wiki/images/9/9a/Sand-in-my-vagina.jpg)
MtD
Grease them liberally, put them in a sling and fuck them until their eyes pop out?
MtD
A shut clam gathers no sand .