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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: Illusion22 on December 03, 2006, 06:30:31 pm
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Ok well 1st off I like to say great job on the site guys/girls fantastic support in here..ok my incident was the following one i have been with my g/f for 3 months we got together in sept. and are engaged. On oct 21 2006 i made a stupid! mistake and had some girl give me a blowjob i felt so horrible after it(Drunk). That was all that happened she gave me a blowjob we didn't even kiss i panicked sooo much that on the 25th me and my gf both went to a health clinic. The reason i told her i wanted to go was because i DID feel some slight burn when i urinated, before the incident with that girl. Our results came in 2 weeks HiV and all other STDS were negative turned out everything was fine only that I had NGU. They gave both me and my gf a dose of 14 pills of Doxycycline. We return for a follow up and we were clear of it thnk Christ. I wasssss soooo worried about still have gotten something cuz the period from the 21st to the 25th was sooooo short. So i did an HSV1 and 2 test igg and igm plus a full blood count i believe 1 week exactly after the incident. Those results came back 3 days later thnk Christ! NEGATIVE as wel and blood count was perfect.The HIV terror still remained on my mind and i was not waiting 3 months to find out...so i did a PCR test 17 days after the incident....4 days later that came back negative as well thankfully. Then after all these tests i decided to go to my primary Doc for and overall checkup on the 15th of November including STDs.I returned on the 28th for my results HSV1 and HSV2 plus chylamidia,syphillis,gonnor and HIV etc. were allll negative. Now the week before i got that blowjob from that other girl, my gf was giving me a blowjob and she scratched me a little on the head of my penis it was like 1mm long very little no blood came out out of it or anything now this is the only reason i decided to post here and ask you guys what do you think of the situation???.and i saw no blood on my penis after the blowjob was done. 5 min i ejaculated and it was over. Should i return on Jan for another antibody test? or another PCr? what do you guys think??please help me out here.
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In the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a single documented case of transmission to someone getting a blowjob. So the risk to you in the situation as far as HIV is concerned was zilch, nada, zero.
Testing wasn't even necessary.
In general we always recommend that any couple who are in a securely monogamous relationship and want to dispense with using condoms should get tested together. Once a mutual negative status is established then it's up to both to decide if monogamy is the thing.
I don't see any cause for further concern about HIV on your part. I do recommend that you read the lesson on this site about Transmission. It's got all the basics and everyone should know about it. You can find a link to it in the Welcome thread which opens this section.
As for your incident, take a breath, let it go and get on with your life.
Cheers,
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Thanx alot Andy and to the rest of the Mods keep up the great work! how can i fund your site??. Though i was in GREAT SCARE of the virus I would love to support others:)
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This site does not accept donations. Thanks for offering. But there are many HIV/AIDS-related organizations which definitely always welcome support. GMHC (in NYC), AmFar (research and special projects) or any AIDS service organization in your area.
I'm glad you found our exchange to be helpful.
Cheers,
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Illusion, I've just moved your second thread over from the Living With HIV section. That section is reserved strictly for those who are HIV+ and those who are otherwise intimately involved with HIV, as with a partner, family member or other.
However well intentioned you may be, you are (happily) not HIV+ and should not be going into that section.
Secondly, when I realized you already had a thread started I deleted your new one. If you have further comments you want to enter please keep them in in your original thread. That way readers can follow the conversation and respond accordingly.
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Gotcha andy sorry bout that:)
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OK. Thanks.
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ANDY sorry to bother you man I just 4 got to include one more question to either you or ANN...ok now that i got it outta the way that HIV is practically 0 risk through a grl giving me a blowjob...only thing is i remember right when she started she asked me if i had some water or something her mouth was a little dry regardless like i said i did a PCR 16 days after that incident and it was negative....but still this was the only thing i was kinda thinking about...your thoughts?? sorry to bug you i just had forgotten to add that to my big paragraph i wrote you:) thanks!
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None of your symptoms are consistent with HIV at all. HIV doesn't make you sneeze. When they say that HIV causes cold/flu like symptoms they mean sore throat, fever, aches and pains and not sneezing. HIV does not infect cells of the respiratory tract to make you sneeze. You got a cold. Why are you getting these symptoms? As Andy says, go see your doctor, they are not HIV related.
Rich
Goodmorning rich you say HIV is not active in saliva my question is what if the girl giving me blowjob had dry mouth?? that was my question on my thread....?
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Illusion,
Getting a blowjob isn't "practically 0 risk", it is NO risk. NO RISK. Not one person has ever become infected with hiv through a blowjob and you will not be the first. You didn't need that PCR test. You don't need to test over getting a blowjob. Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv, no matter what sort of spin you want to put on it.
Ann
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Illusion,
I removed the question you asked in a different thread and placed it here, in your own thread. Posting questions in another person's thread is thread hijacking and we don't allow that in this forum. Please keep all your additional thoughts or questions here, in your own thread, only. Thank you for your cooperation.
And as for the question you asked in the other thread, please see my response to you above. The answer is no different.
Ann
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Ok no problem ANN ...i wanna know is the reason you guys are so assured that Oral is not a risk because of the anti-bodies in our saliva that prevent HIV from being transmitted both oral sex and kissing wise.?
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Guys/Girls i wanted to know if i received that blowjob when i had a minor yeast infection woud that matter?? it wasnt open or ne thing like letting out blood or pus but i might of had it very small by then right now its almost gone it was like a little brown line in the head of my penis..please respond
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No not as all.
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Man thnk God the thing is im 22yrs young man and i was recently diagnosed with prostatitis..im not that freaked out about getting HIV as much anymore but the things is i have some muscle aches at times..never had fever nor lymph node problems...my throat has been bothering me since octobber and between then ive had 2 antibody tests and one PCR test the pcr that was done 16 days after the blowjob all 3 negative.But my prob is having the prostatitis and that minor yeast infection it kinda scared me a bit i guess i started thinking bout to many ''what ifs''. Sucks that i got the prostatitis cuz the symtoms can cause u stress plus im on Amoxycillin for it and its been making me nauseas not to mention that damn girl said her mouth was kinda dry and she took a puff outta a cig and drank some water i rem soo thoughts?? Rod? ann? andy?? about that
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You come back with yet another niggling detail and what if. None of that changes the basic fact: no one has ever become HIV infected from receiving a blow job.
And no matter what your mind comes up with, you aren't going to make history by becoming the first.
Really. No kidding.
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Andy,ANN,Rapidrod..etc
Well i wanna thank you all for clearing things out. As i stated before my gf is pregnant and i have a baby on the way, thus was the primary concern on why i was soo paranoid about that blowjob from that prostitute and therefore did all those tests including the PCR after 16 days. Today im getting an oraquick for a better peace of mind and then they gave me a follow up at the end of jan (3months total). And then i just wanna put this away thanks you all!
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Hello all!
Well just got back frm my appointment doing my oraquick test and it was ''NEGATIVE'' thnk christ:) i was also told by the oraquick customer service line that there HIV1/HIV2 test are 99.9% accurate after 30 days of exposure and SPECIALLY in my situation, of course the window period is always 3 months max but they said people usually seroconvert at 6 weeks and plus i had previously done my PCR at 16 days post-exposure. Super happy to have this behind me and can now await my child to be here soon!:) thnks to all u experts hehe:) i know might of been a pain in the A$$ sometimes but sorry take care and God bless!
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Congratulations on that happy (if not unexpected) result.
Now you can get on with your life.
Cheers,
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Guys/girls well now that im pretty much relieved about my hiv status during my fellatio incident with a women..i wanted to know because i will be donating blood tomm in college from the blood truck and though im sure im pretty virus-free what kinda test do they run at those blood donation places...? just curious...?
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Yes they do. What did you think they wouldn't test blood before they gave it to anyone? For the record they don't just test for HIV.
Although this is a different concern, you should post this in your original post.
R
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Oh ok sorry i wasnt sure so i made a new topic because this has nothing to do with my last topic and i was just asking i mean i know they obviously do different tests, i was just curious what kinda HIV test do they run just a reg anti-body test??
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No, they do a NAT test
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Illusion,
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.
Ann
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Ok no prob so based on my last topic is it safe for me to donate blood...regarding my situation in oct? I always donate blood about twice a year:)
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There is no need not to give blood, you didn't have a risk.
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Well im off to donate, once again thnks to all you experts for easing my mind man i seriously don't know what i woulda done without you guys Andy...RRod,ANN. ETC. To be honest thnx to you guys i dont have anxiety pains anymore my arms legs were aching at times everytime i dreaded HIV from getting that blowjob. Now that iv'e eased my mind i dont have the aches anymore and my migraines have gone away for the most part also cuz i just removed 2 wisdom teeth on friday. You guys SERIOUSLY deserve some type of funding though i know you don't accept any. There are plenty like myself out there worrying for nothing and plenty not caring at all who should be worried. Both can use the help and advice from you guys. Im just praying for the safety and health of my gf and my unborn baby who should be due by late august early sept. Pray for me to guys!:) God bless.
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I have a question for any of you very-knowleadgable experts now that im more at ease about that blowjob incident i was wondering the reason why the CDC says oral sex is a low-risk is mainly because of the receptive partner huh? and the reason they say its a Theoretical risk is because its never been proven but theoritically its a low risk for the girl/guy GIVING the blowjob correct? meaning thats why you guys keep telling guys like me and kobe or curious etc. why getting a blowjob is not a risk and that we should relax.?
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Well if not for the relief of you experts on here idk what alot of us would but i see alot of people still worried about oral sex on this site like blowjobs its just some websites or people calling the CDC get scared because they tell callers that theres some risks but help me out her ANN and ANDY along with the rest of you experts why is it that people are so scared of this? like i pretty much have put it behind me but i was curious about something lets say you're getting a blowjob from a girl theoritically would it be better for the one receiving the blowjob to ejaculate?. And how much blood would have to be present?? sorry to ask so much questions but i like to inform myself with you guys instead of getting scared reading other websites that put alotta crap in peoples heads.
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Illusion,
We tell you guys that getting a blowjob is not a risk because saliva is not infectious. Unless you're in the habit of punching the person who is about to blow you in the mouth, then you don't need to worry about blood in their mouth either.
Giving a blowjob is theoretically a risk. There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one. This shows us two things. One, condoms are very effective for the prevention of hiv transmission. Two, oral sex is much lower risk than previously believed. We now have the evidence that oral sex is a very low risk activity where hiv transmission is concerned.
Ann
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:D Thanks ann...well i definitely did not punch that girl in the mouth lol thats for sure. Ann why is that most of these outdated websites don't update us with these accurate studies you are telling me or others about?? they really should because they scare alot of people and alot of them seriously sound like they don't know what there talking about. Me personally since the FDA approved that NAT test for donor centers think they should start doing that in clinics i mean i know its only for blood centers but wouldnt that help alot of people? like detecting it earlier and starting treatment early. And the CDC still puts its in the mind of some people that window periods are 3-6 months. I mean they don't tell us that most people seroconvert at 22 days or any other helpful info like that. Sorry for so much questions:).
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NAT tests cost a lot and a lot of websites haven't been updated for a while.
R
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Just have a question why is that guy 30 being allowed to post those things?...i mean my situation wasn't cunninglitus it was a BLOWJOB..But hes gonna start putting fear in the minds of others. I am so glad to have MODs like you and andy who can clear things up..but man 30 you gotta chill out brother.
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To clarify something on symptoms lets say for example someone develops a swollen lymph Node or highhhhhh fever RELATED to HIV if that very same person was to go get an HIV anti-body test because he saw that swollen node or fever well he test positive? meaning that once u have a symptom related to HIV it should read postive on the test im i correct? Again i know that self-diagonosing urself isnt a way to see if u have HIV or not but i just wanna in that situation that i just asked??
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How can you relate symptoms to HIV when HIV has no specific symptoms?
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Well doesnt HIV cause swollen lymph nodes i mean obviously HIV isnt the only thing that can cause that but im just asking if u had something related to HIV. If at that very momment you did an antibody test would it test postive?
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By implication you are still attempting to use symptoms as a basis for testing.
The average time to seroconversion is 22 days. All but the smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will do so within 4-6 weeks after a risky incident. To make sure that very small number who may take longer are included, the CDC recommends testing at 13 weeks for a reliable answer.
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Andy by no means seriously man im i implying that but i just wanna know if someone developed anything like a swollen node or anything like that and it was HIV related if that very same person would go for a test at that momment would he test pos? (antibody)
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No, that does not mean you have antibodies for HIV. The only way to relate symptoms, is if you test and are confirmed positive. Then you can correlate the symptoms to HIV. Most people don't even have any symptoms.
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Seems like everyone is misunderstanding my question man...:( what im trying to say is when someone has developed a symptom due to HIV !not because they diagnosed it! would that mean that developing a symptom means that the body has started to produce antibodies??? i really hope you guys get the question now if not nevermind and sorry for asking:(
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You are not understanding. You can not assume a symptom is caused by HIV UNTIL you have tested and you are confirmed to be HIV positive. Then you can say that the symptoms you have had previously may have been related. You can not say it before you have a confirmed positive test.
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By my understanding did 30 minutes say on his thread '' How come the know aids campaign says that oral is a risk?I think the society's for people with hiv are trying to white wash the real dangers behind oral sex'' Was he trying to imply that you guys are lying or trying to say something isnt a risk when it really is(Oral)??. I mean how could you say something lke that ''30 minutes'' thats cruel to other readers man...and who would be cruel enough to lie about something like that. these experts on here are very knowledgeable about HIV and are trying to help and guide there fellow brothers from contracting the virus...thats just wrong man..i understand being scared but saying some crap like that isnt right...Guys what do you think about that??
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To answer your question, we do not LIE about anything on here. There is no data to back up the claim that oral sex is a great risk. My advice to anyone like 30-minutes who makes claims that we are lying or that other people KNOW that oral sex is a risk and it is not being said is "SHOW ME THE DATA". It is not cruel but a little naive of them to say that. I'll be convinced by data and if there is data that says that oral sex is a risk, then I might change my mind. So, to anyone who claims that, reveal the source.
I have read a lot of data to say that oral sex is NOT a risk.
R
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Thanks alot for clearing that up HIV worker i for one believe you guys and thanks for your professional response. He apologized right after he wrote that lol i don't understand some people, but i guess some people mistake it when people say oral sex is a risk and also misunderstand that blowjob is no risk and that cunninglitus is a low risk. Can u please explain exactly why one isnt and the other is just low?. Clear things up form some readers, i for one enjoy this website and the great advice that is given to the public.
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Saliva contains antivirals. Is it possible to get HIV from oral sex? It's possible maybe but it is VERY unlikely and you would have to have a lot of blood to make it possible. That makes it not oral sex, but a blood exposure. How much blood, a 10 mls? Statistics reveal oral sex is no risk. More conservative websites claim it is a risk, but REALITY dictates (from statistics) that oral sex is a VERY VERY VERY low risk activity. This data is gleaned from serodiscordant couples who engage in oral sex and not had a case of seroconversion. You could invent a scenario where it would be possible, but it would take a very special event (not evident from your story) to get HIV from oral sex. I would actually agree with anyone that says it is virtually impossible. With over 50 million cases of HIV and only a handful that MIGHT be due to oral sex, this dictates that you don't get it from oral sex.
Have I cleared that up or talked myself into more trouble. For the record, if someone here says it is no risk, that's good enough to take to the bank.
R
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Thanks once again HIV worker and sorry to ask you so much questions man but im not exactly einstein when it comes to math lol how much would you say is 10 mls of blood? i know its pretty much but how much? i tried to google it and it showed a kinda fat tube?. Well i for sure didnt see blood at all on my penis after the blowjob let alone 10mls of thats alot. And IMO you havent stirred up any problems because you're doing an excellent job clearing something that people constantsly keep asking about! thnx once again:)
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Hmm...how much is 10ml. Hmm....I think 2 tablespoons. Lets's say 1 teaspoon is enough to be at risk....you have that much? You would know it. Your penis would be covered in blood.
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LOl thanks man alright ill leave u alone and stop harassing you now ::) i hope all those with the same concerns read this before they make naive claims, have a good night HIV worker and God bless man:)
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Well, if they do, we will just say the same as on here. My concern is to make sure YOU know for now. Leave us to deal with everyone else.
Rich
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well its almost 2 months since my fellatio encounter with that women ,i did recent an PCR 16 days posr that exposure(Negative)Antibody test for HIV1/2 of that incident also at 6 weeks though. Everything was fine but the dumb clinic that i did it in called me for a survey asking how the counsellor did as far as performance and i was like ''They did great''. The she was like great! ''umm i see u tested for fellation at 6 weeks you might wanna come back at 12 weeks i was like wtf....? shes like ''Just to be sure''. My gf is pregnant like about 1 monnth now so been taking care of her and now she just has some headaches and a little sore throat with some sneezing and i started to freak cuz of that damn lady saying that! :(. we both got tested for alll stds and were clear now she got tested on Nov 17 2006 and weve only had sex with each other and we benn having it since june 2006. But still they kinda spooked me:(
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anyone?
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You didn't need a test to begin with.
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Well yes yes i know you experts r gonna say '' You didnt need to test to begin with!!'' lol:) but it was for my final peace of mind. Got my letter from the blood donor community center seems iam part of the rare blood donor types because i have some special type of red blood cell and my blood was all clear for various things including HIV with the NAT test finally i can put this behind me well now i know better no more blowjobs from anyone!!! but my fiancee! God bless everyone!!!:)
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Glad you finally got some closure. Be safe.
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Thanks!:-) i guess you guys knew it all along huh? but i think its the fear and guilty conscience that makes us feel this way and bring up all the what ifs and buts.I prolly didnt need the NAT but that was the only way of being suree being that it shrinks the window period from 3 months to 12 days! im at about 56 days right now almost 60 well good luck everyone else and God bless.
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Hello Ann sorry to bug you i just wanted to ask you something umm as far as Hep C..should i be worried frm that blowjob i received in 0ct 21, 2006??. I havent had sex with anyone besides my girlfriend since about late may early june of 2006. The only thing i did was receive that damn blowjob. I just donated on the 11th i believe of Dec 2006, which was a little over 50 days since that incident and they screened me with the NAT for HIv.HCV. and other things. Even before that i also screened at my physicians clinic for all stds all was negative. I received a letter from them(Blood center) thanking me for donating that every went well and for me to donate again in the future. Your thoughts please i know this is an HIV forum but i know you have some overall knowledge as well as other members on HCV thanks:) God bless.
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Illusion,
Getting a blowjob is absolutely NOT a risk for hepatitis of any description.
You may be putting yourself at risk for the following things when someone sucks your penis. Herpes, syphilis, gonorrhea and more rarely, chlamydia or non-specific urethritis.
You are NOT at risk for hiv or hep C.
Ann
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Ohhh ok thnx a bunch Ann man you're always so helpful. Well as far as the ones you mentioned ive gotten checked out for them and im A ok thnkkkkkss:)
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Well i already got tested post 6 weeks with antibody tests and PCR at 16 post. Plus my recent NAT test at like 55 days post exposure. Yeap i know you guys are gonna say blowjob wasnt a risk. My gf is pregnant she got a cold well they told her its upper respiratory infection in other words a cold. I been taking care of her in my house since shes pregnant she got a sore throat,headache,stuffy nose. They did a swab on her for thrush it was negative. Well the reason i wanted to share this with you gys was because she gave it to me now and i got the same things she got except i also have 100deg fever thats the highest its gone now its at like 99.6. Stuffy nose,headache,sore throat doesnt hurt wen i swallow or anything but kinda bugs. I got spooked i mean now this is to HIVWORKER you said HIV doesn't effect the respiratory system correct?. I know i shouldnt mention symtpoms or anything just wanted to share this with you guys .:) please respond.
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So you caught a cold from her. It's that time of year.
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Illusion,
Please go to the Welcome thread, read the posting guidlines, and take note of what is said about repeatedly posting over a no-risk incident. Thanks.
Ann
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Why do I have to repeat myself to you? You read the words before, why do you think they have changed? You want me to say again that HIV doesn't give respiratory symptoms during ARS? Sure, it doesn't. Did you really need that?
I see what is going on.
Pregnant girlfriend and a blowjob from someone else. Makes you guilty and with the whirlwind of concern over a pregnant girlfriend and this guilt you worry that you have HIV and have given it to them. It's a common story...and you tested negative for HIV. So there is the end of the story from this site. Pick any three month period of anyone's life and you will find someone with symptoms like you describe. So they have HIV? Nope.
Why you can't get past HIV from this incident and testing is beyond me. We have answered your questions and I suggest you move on, before Ann moves you on...and she will and she is within her rights to do so. This concern is over.
R
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You're absolutely right man...wow...guess thats why yall the experts yea im not worried anymore wanted to come by and check up to see if you wrote back and thnx for the reply as well. Ann sorry to be a pest you wont have to worry bout it again take care all of you~! God bless.:)
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Hello again guys well i have a friend whos going through some testing now and he wanted to know whats the standard antibody used?? Elisa? is that the one you get like at the health clinics and stuff? and also he wants to know how accurate would it be at 86 days?. Is there chance that he can get a false positive?
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What was his risk? Then we can take it from there.
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He had sex with a prostitute in june2006 he tested on nov 15th 2006 with that antibody test he was asking about it came back negative, then he also had gone to a massage parlor and received a blowjob frm a grl with a unknown HIV status.
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He didn't have a risk, eventhough you didn't state if a condom was used or not it didn't matter he has his negative result. You don't get HIV from receiving a blowjob. If your friend has anymore questions, have him join the forum on his own computer.
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Kool i will let him know that thanks Rod:)
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Ok HiV from my knowledge can be asymptomatic and people may seroconvert without symptoms i got that much correct so far im assuming. Now my question is this if or not after seroconversion people have symptoms, when again will someone have symptoms due to the virus??. Is it possible if someone was infected that they have symptoms post the 12 to the 13th week of infection sorta like a late seroconversion i guess?. I know most seroconvert from 2 to 6 weeks but can someone have symptoms of the virus around the 12th week? or will they not feel symptoms of the virus again until it has prolly turned into AIDS?. I would really appreciate an answer i could't find the answer to this question in the lesson thread which is why im asking here, just trying to be more informed and knowledgable about the virus thanks a million!
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If you had a true seroconversion and didn't have any symptoms at all then you aren't going to get them at a later date because you already seroconverted.
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Ah ha....ok i see.. thanks for clearing that up big time!
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Yea im foolish for doing it again :( but anyway here goes my new story....i went out to celebrate my best f bday at a club and after met up with a prostitute friend of mine and received a blowjob...i know i had a similiar incident before and after all the months waiting i turned out negative as told i was but STILL with my gf being pregnant and all u always worry all she did was give me a blowjob but dem there is always that WHAT IF that we ALL hate like if she had open sore in here mouth that i didnt kniow about. Anway after the blowjob i ejaculated and then wiped myself and there was noo blood i then peed right after and it was done...ughh please some peace of mind after being sooo good i went out and did this crap!.
PS i didnt know how to look for my oldddddddddddd thread so bare with me guys thanks!!!
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OK- here's your complimentary peace of mind reply from us to you:
You don't get HIV from being on the receiving end of a BJ. The bigger concern for me is if you are still planning little forays like this one outside of your current relationship- and how both you and your preggie GF stand with all that. That's something for the two of you to figure out and get settled. I suspect that plays an awful lot into what leads you here....more so than actual HIV concerns.
You need to figure out another plan than running here for an emotional band aid when you make a slip. You and the GF- not to mention the little one on the way- deserve more than that.
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Hell yea man thanks alot i gladly apprecaite that and im not making excuses i just hang around with the wrong type of people dude and im having my 1st child at 22. I guess i was going through that ''IM still young stage'' and couldnt see the fact that im gonna be a dad well thanks alot yea its just somethhing u think about......but im done with this shit :) thank you
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Illusion,
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.
If you're still worried about your no risk blowjob, re-read your entire thread again.
Ann
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Goodmorning all well i've been safe and praciticing safe sex as was told but i have a new worry. Last nite we went partying with some friends and then i met a hooker and paid for her services. I bought a condom at a gas station. She slippped it on with her mouth and gave me head for about 1 min(with it on) and then i had sex with her for bout a quick ten it was a quicky , the condom was on right when she gave me head and when we had sex Im just scared what if that gas station sold me a lambskin condom instead of a latex one??? I didn't look at the condom for that and thats my only worry. Thoughts please??
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Thanks for merging my thread i didnt remember how to look for it havent been here so long well back to my new post thoughts???
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Illusion,
It's highly unlikely that a gas station would sell lambskin condoms as they are very expensive to buy. Besides, they are very different in looks and texture from a latex condom and you would have noticed the difference. The sex worker certainly would have noticed the difference and said something about it.
Keep using those condoms and you'll be just fine where hiv is concerned. Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use them with confidence.
Ann
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Thanks Ann:) yea i know i was doing everything right, it didnt break when i pulled out it was passed covered the the head of my penis. And i was trying to find the damn wrapper i my car but couldnt that woulda been a reilef and not have made me come here but thanks. It looked latex and felt latex i never seen or used a lambskin one so i dont know anything about it.
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Illusion,
Even if you are already pretty confident with your condom use, I suggest you check out at least the first link provided below anyway. That site goes into great detail about the various condoms available - and there's even a video. Chances are you'll learn something about condoms you don't already know.
Ann
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Well ANN! as usual youre right lol. I went to the exact gas station that i bought the condom from and made sure and it WAS latex in fact allll the condoms they had were latex. I bought the individual ones for 1$ and those too were latex thanks luv!! :)
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One last thing that always makes you think is how they say condoms are not 100% sure but offer lower risks i got that from ur link Ann so that kinda makes you think a little jumpy but my condom didn't tear and it was on fine when i pulled out so okie dokie.
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Illusion,
When condoms fail they do so catastrophically, it's a design thing. The fact that you didn't notice any damage means it didn't fail, Kiddo.
MtD
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I figured but just the thought of maybe a tiny hole that you never noticed is always a scare sex was for like 10 mins too lol its just such nerves you get even when having sex with a condom.
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Hello Ann well i just saw the condom video and i mean i had it on, my head was covered and after I didn't notice any damage. but the way the women in the video was putting it on i didnt do alll those steps exactly...i mean the worker opened the condom then she slit it on as she was getting rdy to give me a blowjob it was fully on then i had sex with her for about 5-10 min exactly and thats it. I pulled out and noticed the sperm at the tip end of the condom, my head was still covered and i took it out and threw it away and nothing else. She squeezed the tip and spinned it around 2 times....thoughts???
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Illusion,
It sounds to me like the sex worker knows what she's doing. You didn't have a risk for hiv infection. It's time you got over this and moved on with your life.
Ann
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Im sorry i didnt clarify the end of my post the women on the video squeezed the tip..and thats what im saying i didnt do that to mine so and i didnt spinned it twice. The sex worker slit it on all the way down giving me a blowjob with it on for like 2 min then just started having sex with her.
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Illusion,
The reason for squeezing the tip is to expel excess air that might cause the condom to burst, like a ballon. Yours didn't. You didn't have a risk and we're running out of ways to explain this to you.
If you keep going on about this no risk situation, I'll have to give you a time out. You've been coming here long enough to know the score.
Ann
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Hello Ann no i dont want a timeout and sorry if i kept coming back its just that i got back with my grl and i hadnt done anything with any other grl until this worker so i just wanted to have that reassurance because i plan on having more kids and wouldnt want be caught in that whole predicament of being scared to have given something to her. That was my only incident recently nothing more sorry.
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wELL I'm at work and more at ease now i really wanna take this time to thank Ann,andy and the rest of you experts for really easing my mind. God knows i dont know where my mind would be without you guys. I get so nervous with all this because(Im sure youve heard it a million times im sure) of my baby and my girl is still breastfeeding him so i was terrified about that. One postive note is i wasnt drunk nor on drugs. And the clearest picture i have after the 10 min session with the coworker was me pullin out looking at the condom and seeing my semen in that litto pouch at the end of the condom where its suppose to go, then just pulled the condom off and threw it away. Thank you guys soo much HONESTLY.
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We're glad you found the exchanges here to be helpful.
And now the best thing you can do for all concerned is to get on with your life. No kidding.
Cheers,
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hello illusion....
i have been readin ur thread for awhile now and kept comments to myselfbut i feel that i must say something....
u are such a worry wart and concerned about everything.... best advice is dont worry and by not worrying i mean stay with one person.... UR GIRL... raise the family u always wanted and keep ur dick to her.... that way u dont worry about prostitute bjs or random drunk things...
be safe and be happy if ur not happy then maybe find a new way at life...
jus do what u got to.... but i think raising a well rounded family where daddy can be looked up to....
be safe, be smart, always use ur head... (the correct one)
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Thanks alot for the advice clubbin yes im young and stupid but ive let all that go other then my 1st reason here and until now. Ive been celebant(If thats how you spell it). And only with my grl. We had broken up a little while ago and we JUST got back. I know i had protected sex but with the wrong person but im not worried about it anymore. I was safe but guilty mentally and i FINALLY learned from it. Thank God i didnt the wrong way. Peace!
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Clubbing
While I'm sure you mean well please read the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) here in this forum...see under posting guide lines, Paragraph 4.
Thank you for your cooperation
Jan
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Out of curiousity what does it mean when they say condoms for ''novelty use only''??. Not relating it to my post but i just heard about that and i wanted to know what it was.
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Helloe everyone 19-m here well heres my story i just recently Graduated highschool this past june(Yes i know a very big point in life where things get crazy) and last weekend me and couple of friends rented at the beach for my bday. Turns out out my GOOD influencing friends at the end of the night got me a prostitute!. So yea she put the condom on me and starting giving me a blowjob for a little(With it on) then she turned around and i started having sex with her from the back(in the vagina) i wasnt really feeling her to be honest so like 10-15 min i came fast and pulled out I noticed the condom was on still and i had came because i saw it in the front of my condom she asked if i came i said yes, and then i just pulled it off witih my hand and threw it away. Now i just wanna know should i go test?? I heard stories that if i take the condom off the wrong way something with the fluids that i can be infected is this true??. Anyhow Im donating blood on the 20th of october at my cousins job she works for a blood bank is it safe for me to donate or should i test first?. Secondly I have not had unprotected sex with anyone is it safe to have sex with my X grl?? feed back pleaseeee??
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You were never at risk. You had protected sex.
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So by ur response the answers to my 3 questions in order would be? 1 no risk 2 no its not true 3Yes to donate 4yes to have sex with my x?. I just wanna make sure. By seeing that my semen was in the front of my condom where I believe its suppose to be it can also indicate that my condom didnt break ??
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Worry,
When condoms break they do so dramatically. They shred. It's a design thing. Essentially when a rubber busts, you'll know.
You have nothing to worry about in terms of HIV here. Please take the time to read our Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) and follow the links to our Lessons to learn more about how HIV is and is not transmitted.
MtD
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Worry, nothing you did put you at risk. Condoms provide very effective protection against HIV transmission. As far as breakage is concerned, if that happens it's not a teensy weensy little hole. You end up looking like you have a fringed hula hoop on your johnson.
Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for transmission. A condom is not necessary for that although other STDs can be transmitted skin-to-skin, so a condom can be useful with regard to them.
I don't see any problem about HIV from your recent incident nor any need to get tested.
Cheers,
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Illusion,
Condoms which have "for novelty use only" written on the packaging are ones that are meant for a laugh, rather than prevention of pregnancy or STIs. I have one such condom in my collection - it glows in the dark. These "novelty" condoms are not meant to be used for anything other than their joke value and cannot nor should not be trusted for pregnancy or STI prevention. For prevention purposes, you must use latex (or polyurethane) condoms which ARE meant for protection and prevention.
If you want to know more about the different types of condoms available, click on the first link in my signature line - the website linked to will give you more information about condoms than you ever thought existed. There's even a video available for viewing. Get clicking!
Ann
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Thank you Ann it was very informative, I just wanted to know my friend was like''Yo make sure that condom at the gas station wasnt for Novelty use'' idiot put that in my head. So just wanted to make sure that Texaco gas station wouldnt sell those kind of condoms?. Koo?
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Well thanks for the info Andy!!!:). Gosh im soooo worried. I keep asking myself questions!? like what if there was a little hole i didnt see, what if some fluids got in??. One thing that kept me relax was that i saw my semen in the tip of my latex condom, kinda made me feel better but but theres still tat what if??. Like theres not a day since then that it doesnt cross my mind atleast once!:(. I know i dont need a mental health prof. either but im soo paranoid. And im glad i used a condom for oral as well it was such a brief incident in all like 15 mins. i discussed Hiv with her as wel because she seemed so cauitous i asked her how do you guys know you havent contracted hiv working? and she said ''2 words i get tested'', i was like ohhh..but still ughhh im never doing this again. I immedaitely showered, every little thing comes to mind, every possible scenario that can make it go bad for you i hate it...and i see its a trend everywhere cause i see soo many people in here reacting the same.
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Yah, well your head may continue to screw around with you but that's about feelings and not facts.
Your condom worked. If it broke you would have known it. That teensy weensy hole business is just in your mind's paranoid scenarios. That's not how it happens in real life. REALLY!
You're good to go this time. Just keep those condoms handy for anytime you have vaginal or anal intercourse and you'll be covered as far as sex and HIV.
Cheers,
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Well instead of letting paranoya get to me i decided to educate myself and i must admit it was quite helpful Andy i have a question I was reading the ''About us'' section about all you guys...and inspiring it was i must admit. My question for you is I read that you do activist conferences in the US , ever coming down to Miami Florida sometime??:). Im sure i can speak for alot of us down here that we really could educated speakers like yourself,Ann and the rest of you guys. Well just wanted to know.
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You are so right Andy..and i was also thinking now that i have more of a clear mind..(And everyone else who has had the same concern...READ THIS). Using a condom the momment you pulled off if the condom isnt either completely off or has a bigggg part of it just hanging..meaning it slipped almost completely. Then you know you used it correctly as Rapid Rod said as well in another post as long as the head was covered then you were good!. As far as tiny holes..it doesnt work that way if im correct right??. If it fails its gonna pop like a balloon or look like hula hoop around your penis correct?. To simply put it my condom was used right and if any of you read the points that i pointed out you should be fine as well.
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Worry,
Can I ask why you are using different usernames while posting to our forums? Thus far, you have also used Illusion22 (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=6386.msg206534#msg206534)
Please realize that this kind of activity is disrespectful of other forum members, as well as our moderators. People spend a considerable amount of time helping others in these forums. Using multiple accounts is at the very least annoying, if not deceiving and disrespectful of others. It is also against our Terms of Membership (http://forums.poz.com/Terms.htm) which you agreed to when you became a member. This information is also contained within the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0), which you should have read by now. So really, you have no excuse.
You must realize that the answers won't change, no matter how many names you post under.
I would appreciate a reply to this message, and I hope you will commit to using just one account - preferably your original one. If not, you will be banned from further access to the forums.
Ann
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Hello ann no iam not illusion, illusion is my older brother patrick..he warned me about something with the same ip addresses but no iam not violating the rules i understand them clearly thank youy. Sorry for not bringing that up before.
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Worry,
Wrong answer. Funny how your stories are exactly the same.
I'm banning you. We take multiple account abuse very seriously here.
Ann