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Author Topic: valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs  (Read 4895 times)

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Offline bimazek

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valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs
« on: January 29, 2007, 07:07:29 pm »
i am newly diagnosised but i have personally met two long term survivors who had epilepsy and were taking valproic acid, perhaps this is what made them survive 25 years where others died... ask your dr.


HIV Breakthrough Study in US Raises Hopes for a Cure Finally
August 13th, 2005 by Angsuman Chakraborty

A cheap drug, enfurvitide, has shown promise in stamping out hidden pockets of HIV in three people who have long been infected with the virus.


    The result is described by the US scientists as merely a “proof of concept”, but has inevitably sparked talk of a cure for AIDS.

    HIV can already be kept in check by treatment with a powerful cocktail of drugs known as highly-active antiretroviral therapy (HAART). But the virus persists in a latent state in infected people.

    It is hoped that the new approach, developed by David Margolis and colleagues at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, US, will finish off the virus in its latent hiding places.

    Four patients who had been on long-term HAART treatment were given a drug called enfurvitide twice daily for 4 to 6 weeks to intensify the effect of the HAART drugs. They were then given valproic acid, a drug which is usually used to treat epilepsy, twice daily for 3 months.

    Valproic acid inhibits an enzyme called histone deacetylase, which is known to help HIV linger in its dormant, hidden state. In 3 of the 4 patients, levels of latent HIV fell by 75%.

    “Our findings suggest that eradication of established HIV infection may be achieved in a staged approach,” says Margolis. “This finding, though not definitive, suggests that new approaches will allow the cure of HIV in the future.”

    Jean-Pierre Routy at McGill University Health Centre, Montreal, Canada, says that while the research is preliminary, the results merit urgent further study: “This is the first glimpse of a new therapeutic approach that might represent a possible step towards making HIV-infection no longer a chronic disease.”

Offline AustinWesley

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Re: valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2007, 07:16:52 pm »
Thanks for sharing this.   I just ran across this site on TheBody.com.

http://aidsinfo.nih.gov/DrugsNew/DrugDetailNT.aspx?MenuItem=Drugs&int_id=417&Search=Off&ClassID=6&TypeID=2

It sounds interesting although this site says it's not approved by the FDA yet for HIV treatment?   Some of the side effects were kind a scary, but Hell I'd try it.

Diag. 3/06  Infected aprx. 2 mo. Prior
Date        CD4   %      VL
4/6/06     627    32    36,500     NO MEDS YET!
6/7/06     409    27    36,100
8/23/06   408    25     22,300
1/2/07     354    23     28,700
2/9/07     139    30     23,000  Hep A Vaccine same day???
2/21/07   274    26     18,500 
3/3/07    RX of Truvada/Sustiva Started.
4/5/07    321     27      Undectable 1st mo.  
5/16/07  383     28    Undectable 2nd mo.
8/10/07  422     32   UD <48 on new scale!

Offline AustinWesley

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Re: valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2007, 07:22:44 pm »
You know I thought that name sounded familiar.  I've taken this drug before.   The brand name is Depakote and it was prescribed to me at one point for anxiety and depression years ago.  So apprently, it's used for epilepsy and seizures also.   

Well, is anyone out there already taking Depakote?   It's fairly commonly prescribed for bi polar and other mood disorders.   I'm now curious cause this drug has been around for a long time and lot of people take it.

Diag. 3/06  Infected aprx. 2 mo. Prior
Date        CD4   %      VL
4/6/06     627    32    36,500     NO MEDS YET!
6/7/06     409    27    36,100
8/23/06   408    25     22,300
1/2/07     354    23     28,700
2/9/07     139    30     23,000  Hep A Vaccine same day???
2/21/07   274    26     18,500 
3/3/07    RX of Truvada/Sustiva Started.
4/5/07    321     27      Undectable 1st mo.  
5/16/07  383     28    Undectable 2nd mo.
8/10/07  422     32   UD <48 on new scale!

Offline whizzer

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Re: valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2007, 09:40:26 pm »
There's a clinical trial currently recruiting at UNC-Chapel Hill regarding this.  David Margolis is the principal investigator.

Offline AustinWesley

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Re: valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 07:19:14 pm »
Hey Whizzer,

I know someone else besides me interested.   He's on meds already.  I'm not, but probably will be soon.   Do you have a link to the clinical trial info?

Thanks,

Wesley
Diag. 3/06  Infected aprx. 2 mo. Prior
Date        CD4   %      VL
4/6/06     627    32    36,500     NO MEDS YET!
6/7/06     409    27    36,100
8/23/06   408    25     22,300
1/2/07     354    23     28,700
2/9/07     139    30     23,000  Hep A Vaccine same day???
2/21/07   274    26     18,500 
3/3/07    RX of Truvada/Sustiva Started.
4/5/07    321     27      Undectable 1st mo.  
5/16/07  383     28    Undectable 2nd mo.
8/10/07  422     32   UD <48 on new scale!

Offline trellium

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Re: valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 12:55:33 am »
Hi Wesley,

here's the link to that clinical trial
"Inhibiting Histone Deacetylase: Towards Eradication of HIV"
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00312546?order=2

and another one
"Use of Valproic Acid to Purge HIV From Resting CD4+ Memory Cells/ A Proof-of-Concept Study"
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/show/NCT00289952?order=1


Offline AustinWesley

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Re: valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 01:23:12 am »
Thank you for those links!   YOU ROCK! ; )

I've posted those links in my own group to see if my friend might be interested.   I read the details and am not eligible because I'm not on meds and don't have an undectable VL.

Does sound interesting to me though.   Thank you!

Wesley
Diag. 3/06  Infected aprx. 2 mo. Prior
Date        CD4   %      VL
4/6/06     627    32    36,500     NO MEDS YET!
6/7/06     409    27    36,100
8/23/06   408    25     22,300
1/2/07     354    23     28,700
2/9/07     139    30     23,000  Hep A Vaccine same day???
2/21/07   274    26     18,500 
3/3/07    RX of Truvada/Sustiva Started.
4/5/07    321     27      Undectable 1st mo.  
5/16/07  383     28    Undectable 2nd mo.
8/10/07  422     32   UD <48 on new scale!

Offline madbrain

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Re: valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2007, 08:42:43 pm »
Unfortunately, Depakote doesn't seem to be the cure after all :
http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/1667_11202.shtml

I have taken Depakote for bipolar disorder before and it made me nauseate and puke, especially if I had any amount alcohol during the same day that I took it. I was switched to Tegretol instead.

Offline AustinWesley

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Re: valproic acid epilepsy hiv and viral Resevoirs
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2007, 11:40:08 pm »
Hey Mad,

I read that article and feel the title of it was poorly chosen.   I'd never felt this was any kind of cure, but that article had a very negative slant starting with the headline.   

I think the author worded it poorly top to bottom because although the results aren't any kind of cure they do seem promising and worth researching further.

Made me wonder what the author's motivation was for the article.

Wesley
Diag. 3/06  Infected aprx. 2 mo. Prior
Date        CD4   %      VL
4/6/06     627    32    36,500     NO MEDS YET!
6/7/06     409    27    36,100
8/23/06   408    25     22,300
1/2/07     354    23     28,700
2/9/07     139    30     23,000  Hep A Vaccine same day???
2/21/07   274    26     18,500 
3/3/07    RX of Truvada/Sustiva Started.
4/5/07    321     27      Undectable 1st mo.  
5/16/07  383     28    Undectable 2nd mo.
8/10/07  422     32   UD <48 on new scale!

 


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