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Author Topic: Some advice on taking a drug holiday  (Read 3959 times)

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Offline mike88

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Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« on: April 26, 2013, 06:44:42 pm »
Could anyone give me some input about their personal experiences taking a drug holiday.

Offline leatherman

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 07:13:56 pm »
in a word: don't!

The only thing that stops HIV from replicating, and potentially leading to AIDS, is the meds. Stopping meds can lead to resistance, increased viral load, and other issues.

On the other hand, if you're determined to do this at least tell your doctor so you can be properly monitored.

Perhaps explaining why you think a drug holiday would be appropriate might help receive a better response.
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Offline mike88

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 07:52:53 pm »
Thanks for your reply I appreciate it.

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 08:18:53 pm »
I stopped taking my meds about six years ago. About three months in, I quit going to the gym because I was tired. About two months after that, I was pretty much confined to the futon, the bathroom, and the bedroom about tive days a week, as I didn't have energy to do much else.

A year after my holiday, I decided to start back up. IRIS kicked in, and within a week I was in the ER with  PCP, where I stayed for half a month. CD4 count of 12, VL upwards of two million. My friends rallied, but it took a toll on everyone concerned.

Near death experiences surprisingly gold far less appeal to me now.

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Offline Anqueetas

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 03:11:04 am »
Do that and risk virologic failure, I don't think so. A few days of no pill and risk ruin my treatment, not a smart thing choice to make. I don't see that once a day pill is anything to bug about.
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Offline Valmont

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2013, 02:40:49 pm »
Why do you want to do this, you have problem with side effects?

My advice is the same than the other, just don´t stop your meds by your own, and basically don´t stop, the ploblems you´re going to be exposed are just worst than medecine themselves...  If you have any problem with your actual combo, talk to you doc about them ; in my opinion, a drug holidays is not an option to considere once !!!
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
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Offline weasel

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2013, 02:21:11 pm »


    Hello Mike ,
                    I went to a funeral  Monday afternoon for a guy that decided
 He was better off without the MEDS !

   He was so far gone when He decided he wanted to live  :(

    The best advice is to take your MEDS and  learn to live !!!

                                 I wish you the best ,
                                                                Weasel
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Offline Jeff G

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 02:27:51 pm »
I took a med holiday and got 2 huge Kaposi Sarcoma lesions , over two years of chemo therapy , radiation treatments ... and a partridge in a pear tree . 
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Offline anniebc

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2013, 04:34:49 pm »
Not a good idea, I went from 700+ down to 180, then down to 130 in just under 3 months, I'm now back up to 180 again and still working on it.

As Jonathon said the fatigue can get beyond managing.

If you are having problems and can't tolerate your combo then talk to your Doc, there are other combos you can try, but please don't just stop taking them.

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Offline OneTampa

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 09:44:56 am »
I agree DON'T STOP taking your meds!

In fact, I have a near OCO (obsessive compulsive order*) about it which is probably why I am still around after 28 years to tell the tale.


*rather than disorder as I see it as a good thing.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2013, 09:47:43 am by OneTampa »
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Offline JazJon

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Re: Some advice on taking a drug holiday
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2013, 05:34:16 am »
I've only come across one good reason to stop ART.
(but it's a long shot, and small minority)

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