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Author Topic: moderna HIV vaccine  (Read 1266 times)

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Offline em

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moderna HIV vaccine
« on: April 08, 2021, 04:46:01 am »
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/04/10406280/hiv-vaccine-moderna-antibody-response-rate

another news story well time will tell if this one pans out . I know there have been many failed attempts . but this may just be another ? maybe not ? maybe this one has promise?  just thought this might be of interest . 

Offline nethan1621

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2021, 05:47:05 pm »
Anyway this will be a shocking news for who kept Golden chicken for decades

Offline Almost2late

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2021, 01:56:50 pm »
Not sure if a successful vaccine of this type will necessarily mean therapeutic cure.. it might just be a preventive vaccine if it works.

Rollingstone also covered it like this: What the Recent HIV Vaccine Research Findings Really Mean
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Over the past year, there has been a dramatic shift in the amount of space vaccines occupy in the public consciousness. During the development and testing of the current Covid-19 vaccines, people followed the different phases of the clinical trials like an early season of American Idol. In fact, many referred to and thought of it as the “race for a vaccine.” This, of course, makes sense, given that from the very start of the pandemic, public health officials made it clear that having a safe, effective vaccine was our ticket back to some type of normalcy.

Several months into the rollout, vaccines are still very much on our radar. While that truly is a win for public health, last week there was widespread confusion over clinical trial findings first made public in February. According to several dramatic headlines and exuberant, widely shared social media posts, thanks to technology developed by Moderna for their Covid-19 vaccine, a highly effective HIV vaccine is well within reach — like a modern-day public health fairytale.

Unfortunately, that didn’t happen. But some combination of misinterpreting the study’s findings, and our ongoing thirst for vaccine news, resulted in that feel-good narrative going viral. (Sorry.)
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https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/hiv-aids-vaccine-moderna-covid-19-1155927/amp/

It's an interesting article.




Offline nethan1621

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2021, 06:01:25 pm »
Vaccine trail approach is to generate rare anti body. Ultimately it will preventive as well as therapeutic.

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1844821/world

Offline Almost2late

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2021, 06:53:50 pm »
Vaccine trail approach is to generate rare anti body. Ultimately it will preventive as well as therapeutic.

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1844821/world
We hope so, but while most vaccines prevent and cure disease, not all do.. and HIV is one tough mf'er to cure.

Btw, that article has some inaccurate information.. for example:
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... in recent years, treatments have been discovered to allow many people with HIV to live relatively normal lives, but can cost upward of $500,000 in developed countries.

While it is quite expensive in developed countries, that's a gross exaggeration. There's more but I'm not going to waist anymore time on that gobbledygook.

Offline nethan1621

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2021, 07:09:11 pm »
Let researchers to do their duty rather we jump to conclusions wether positive or negative. Anyway If it works , sorry for big pharma.

Offline Almost2late

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2021, 07:25:15 pm »
I'm sure the researchers aren't bothered by me at all.. and I wish them well bc I appreciate them.

I'm just stating a fact, therapeutic vaccines aren't common and have only been around a few years.. most vaccines are preventive.

Like I said I hope they this mRNA HIV vaccine pans out for us, but don't go betting your life savings on it.


Offline nethan1621

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2021, 06:14:16 am »
Just wait and see... 😁

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2021, 06:26:49 am »
While it is quite expensive in developed countries, that's a gross exaggeration.
one important issue is that this article doesn't give a time range for that $500k. At $3000 a month (over the years my meds have cost anywhere from $2500 to $3500+ a month) that's only 14 years of meds and doesn't include any testing or physician costs. I've been taking meds for 27 years. That makes this number a gross under-estimate for people who are pre-HARRT long term survivors.
leatherman (aka mIkIE)

Offline Almost2late

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2021, 01:18:02 pm »
one important issue is that this article doesn't give a time range for that $500k. At $3000 a month (over the years my meds have cost anywhere from $2500 to $3500+ a month) that's only 14 years of meds and doesn't include any testing or physician costs. I've been taking meds for 27 years. That makes this number a gross under-estimate for people who are pre-HARRT long term survivors.
I assumed the article was referring to yearly cost bc that's how it's usually calculated.. a lifetime will vary from person to person and you should be well over a million.

If that's the case, with only 6yrs and 4mos under my belt I'm somewhere around the $230,000 range just for meds.. and most of that coming from Obamacare (me with some taxpayer funding), ADAP (taxpayers). Since I qualify for ADAP in my new home state, I haven't paid a nickel out of pocket for meds in almost 3yrs.
Though I was asked to switch from Triumeq ($3,300) to Tivicay/Epzicom ($2000) a month.. not mandatorily, but voluntarily to cut ADAP's cost to big pharma and I happily did.

Either way, these meds are way too expensive and someone is paying for it.. Nathan is correct in that respect..
If it works , sorry for big pharma.

#MedicareForAll

« Last Edit: April 19, 2021, 01:22:48 pm by Almost2late »

Offline em

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2021, 03:42:14 pm »
someone on facebook posted this and I thought it worth passing on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=AIdOuJTASVc&fbclid=IwAR2y0cFZJK43jENvSW5fRRBdMCcArH24ysS1t_4njzSEBa3PHBG-vzyFhGU

news on a HIV Vaccine, progress 

Offline em

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Re: moderna HIV vaccine
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2021, 03:48:26 pm »
national geographic article on HIV Vaccine

from may 3rd

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/the-four-decade-quest-for-an-hiv-vaccine-yields-new-hope?

they ask for your email to open the article.   then they say you can read three articles after entering your email then a subscription is needed  to national geographic to read any more  , just incase you might want to read this .

all the best
 EM 
« Last Edit: May 04, 2021, 03:55:23 pm by em »

 


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