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Summer I try new stuff but when fall comes round I'm happy to go back to classics. I probably shouldn't have been wearing any of these when I was in my 20's, but I did anyway.
And now I'm a mature man and these "rugged" powerhouses make sense, and with all these years, they are like old friends.
Quorum
Yatagan
Aramis
Azzaro
Fahrenheit
Canoé and Old Spice (barbershop smells!)
Patou pour Homme (on my last drops)
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Sorry hon, I'm Old School, Soap & Hot water works just fine for me, I don't do to-lite water, never have ;D
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And if i were a women, I'd wear dirty perfumes from Geurlain, like Jicky and Shalimar, and smoke unfiltered turkish cigarettes.
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I wear whatever antiperspirant they are selling at Costco. I don't use cologne because it is one more thing to fool with and I can't be bothered. I feel the same way about jewelry-- zero interest.
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When I wear Eau de' Sweet Potato Pie, it simply drives everyone mad! ;D
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Yeah no jewels or piercings here, no tats. Colognes are like dance mixes, though, they take you on a trip!
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Skeebo laughs at Quorum... reminds me of High School and Kourus! And Fahrenheit is nothing more than a jacked up Grey Flannel.
Black
Jean Paul Gaultier
Givenchy
Hugo Boss
Pleasures
Elements
and, of course, the old reliable: Paco Rabanne (sp?)
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Winter= Sean John Unforgivable, Like the heavy dense aroma, use sparingly
Summer= Hugo Element, like the light floral yet subtle woodsy aroma ( it makes me fall in love with myself again and again).
However on days just kicking around the house or running errands I love Crabtree & Evelynn LaSource body Lotion, gives off a wonderful light aroma.
On a side note- my first bottle of cologne was Old sPice (white bottle with a peg stopper) in 6th grade from an older girl a few doors down, a few weeks later she greeted me at her door in a see through nightie and I could see what looked like to me a cluster of Daddy Long Leg spiders between her legs (pubic hair I now know)..and I thought to myself "that's really weird", and ran home to mommy.
-Dub
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Yeah no jewels or piercings here, no tats. Colognes are like dance mixes, though, they take you on a trip!
pierced nipples, 4 tats, necklace (black, white or gold), 2 "wedding" bands
and sometimes
Lagerfeld - as it makes me uber-horny 8)
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Ja'dore by Dior; Paloma Picasso; Beautiful by Estee Lauder, and Chanel #5.
Dunno a pin-point answer to the "why" question. 'Cause I like to smell extra-good.
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A long time ago I used to like Lagerfeld, Photo, Polo (very long time ago), Bougeron (?), Cool Water
Now, when I wear anything other then heavily scented body wash it would be Bod (the black bottle, of course)...
I was into Axe for a hot minute -
Then of course I went through the whole "oils" thing for a while...
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I liked Lagerfeld for its powderyness on nice boys, but not on me. Anyway, doesn't smell like it used to... ? The old smell make me want to fuck the guy wearing it - thinking I'd get a passive pussyboy but knowing anything could happen, finally.
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Nobody will be topping my list:
Very favorite, though discontinued: Helmut Lang, Cuiron (also have the deodorant and the shower gel :)
2nd favorite, Hermès, Terre d'Hermès
Creed, Silver Mountain Water
Hermès, Un Jardin Sur Le Nil
Hermès, Bel Ami
Mugler, Pure Coffee
Tom Ford, Oud Wood
Hermès, Eau d'Hermès
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Creed, Silver Mountain Water
ohhhh yes. Divine.
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Ja'dore by Dior; Paloma Picasso; Beautiful by Estee Lauder, and Chanel #5.
Wow those are delicious. I had a colleague who wore Beautiful - she was a lovely woman in her 50's and I smelled her silage way down the block long white marble corridors we worked in.
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ohhhh yes. Divine.
Uh, nobody that wears Sean Jean even knows what Creed is.
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Uh, nobody that wears Sean Jean even knows what Creed is.
True, however the only reason I know about it is a guy I was with for a bit wore it, and wore it QUITE well. God I miss him.
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True, however the only reason I know about it is a guy I was with for a bit wore it, and wore it QUITE well. God I miss him.
You should smell my raw armpits.
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You should smell my raw armpits.
and what would the name of that fragrance be - do tell ;D
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and what would the name of that fragrance be - do tell ;D
Phantasia: More Than Just A Dance
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Phantasia: More Than Just A Dance
I like -
can I buy a bottle - and does the fragrance change scent with the seasons?
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You should smell my raw armpits.
Is that what you use to render your Dominican prey unconscious so you can have your way with themm?
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Matty the Damned wears Dorothy Parker's Vitriol for Men.
MtD
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Matty the Damned wears Dorothy Parker's Vitriol for Men.
MtD
Ah, I knew there was a reason Hellraiser shops at Walmart :)
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Beautiful by Estee Lauder,
It was my mother's and ex-wife's favorite. Bittersweet....
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When I was young and cute I used " Bill Blass 100% " spray !
You knew I had arrived when I got out of the Jag ..................... LOL
As I grew Mature in my thirties I used " Carl Lagerfeld "
Now I use Mennen deodor ants as I do NOT perspire :)
Carl
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It's been a while since I regularly wore cologne.
We aren't allowed to wear it at work. Too many people are sensitive to it.
Way back when, I used Pierre Cardin (you gotta love the 70s).
I also used Polo for a while.
On hand at the moment, I have some bottles given to me as gifts.
Stetson - never will see the light of day on me, but I know a few street people I could give it to.
Nomad by Crabtree and Evelyn. I liked it at first, but after a while, it just seemed to be too sweet.
Unscripted by Patrick Dempsey. Not bad, but I would prefer to rub Patrick Dempsey on my body, or any of his bodily fluids.
and, believe it or not, the aforementioned Gray Flannel, which I still like.
Go figure.
HUGS,
Mark
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Anyone say Drakkar yet? Well, I like 2 that are getting just as old at this point. I like Curve and Truth. I have to say I've never had so many comment on how nice I smell when I wear Curve than with any other cologne.
I have a friend who can't wear fragrances. For some reason, they don't mix well with his body chemistry. They end up smelling bad.
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Polo Black, Pi by Givenchy, and I have a bottle of Obsession Night for Men which I think was a seasonal summer fragrance by CK some time ago.
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It was my mother's and ex-wife's favorite. Bittersweet....
When I was at one of my granddaughter's baseball games, one of the dad's said "who's wearing Beautiful?" He went on to explain that one of his ex-girlfriends wore it. I like Estee Lauder, because the scents last.
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Axe Body Spray and liquid soap.
Because you don't catch catfish with chum.
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I never figured out which cologne might sell me to other gay men. I know that with Quorum Yatagan Aramis or Azzaro AND a suit or grown up clothes - means that men are aware of my presence, like I'm marking my territory, and some woman are attracted.
The first girl I fell in love with in college wore expensive heavy classic perfumes and dressed in wild clothes from every era. Thats when I first noticed fragrance as a real treat and part of attraction.
Writing this, I know a few names of colognes that some of my exboyfriends wore but the memory is faint. I'd need to smell it again maybe to get a stronger emotional reaction. Body odors are more important than fragrance when it comes to actual lovers.
It will be a sad day when they outlaw scents in public - for me its a treat when I smell something beautiful on anyone - woman or man. And its nice to associate some smells with some people.
Yes i agree that lots of people settle on a poor match, or wear too much, or the wrong scent for the moment, and its not so nice to smell. But I'm a pervert so even that can sometimes be fun. Now that I'm a dirty old man I like to pick up on the fragrance "donts" on the young guys and gals around town.
I feel like a gay vampire cause I can smell wonderful fragrance every once in awhile on a young guy and clearly its the dude's natural body odour, sometimes mixed with washing power and or crappy colognes. There is this one on campus now who reaks of himself, with a top note of cigarettes - its perfect!
Our lists above show that its not about the expense, or classiness, (e.g. Creed, Guerlain, etc) its about the right fragrance on the right body at the right moment to be smelled by the ones who do think its very nice indeed.
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Osmanthe Yunnan from Hermes.
Because I like its smell, and it wears well in a tropical climate.
Jean-Claude Ellena makes wonderful scents.
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Speaking of Aramis, the first guy that plowed me up the ass, the lovely Doug S., in a fit of cocaine all-nighter frenzy, couldn't locate any lube (much less a condom -- who needs those????) so he used Aramis hand lotion as lube.
Going by my cd4 level at diagnosis and the timeline of raw fucks, I have to somewhat blame Aramis for my HIV infection -- that lotion obviously worked wonders on my love canal and opened up extra blood vessels -- plus the coke of course.
On the plus side I'd lusted after Doug S. for a good year, and since I was a mere 23 (yes ladies, I didn't get butt fucked until that late age... I know this is very difficult for some of you to believe) I really felt an acute sense of achievement.
Of course, I never ever had sex with Doug S. again and was consequently momentarily devastated, but he lives on in my body every day, and for that I'm ever so grateful to Aramis.
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I'm sure to this day your HIV smells fabulous.
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I dab a bit of pussy-beer behind my ears because it attracts such a high-quality man.
;D
No, seriously, I don't wear fragrance much but when I do, I wear Opium by Yves Saint Laurent. I don't wear make-up either - last time I did was New Year's Eve 2007. I'm just a natural kind of woman.
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I have one for everyday of the week never wear the same one twice in a month
name it I probably have it
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Axe Body Spray and liquid soap.
Because you don't catch catfish with chum.
Have you ever heard of the silverfish hand catch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFDqvKtPgZo&feature=related
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I don't usually wear perfume but when I do it's Dos Equis. ;D
Or Estee Lauder Pleasures.
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No, seriously, I don't wear fragrance much but when I do, I wear Opium by Yves Saint Laurent. I don't wear make-up either - last time I did was New Year's Eve 2007. I'm just a natural kind of woman.
I don't usually wear perfume but when I do it's Dos Equis. ;D
Or Estee Lauder Pleasures.
Thank you for not saying patchouli..
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Thank you for not saying patchouli..
I absolutely loathe patchouli!
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I love Black by Kenneth Cole, the one for women, which I can't find anymore :'(
Beautiful and Beautiful Love by Estee Lauder
In Bloom by Reese Witherspoon
Butterfly from Bath and Body Works
I used to like 360 by some guy? but I can't find that for women anymore either.
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I can only use unscented products due to allergy's . I hate elevators . I love my Aunt Cathy but she gets a warm wet wash cloth at my door to get the stink of whatever she rolled in off her before I let her near me .
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Thank you for not saying patchouli..
I absolutely loathe patchouli!
lol... that is one ghastly scent.
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lol... that is one ghastly scent.
I prefer the scent of a day without a Hot Shower, after a good 45 min power workout , better than any ghastly fragrance, I always avoided any man that wore any kinda fragrance ;D
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I prefer the scent of a day without a Hot Shower, after a good 45 min power workout , better than any ghastly fragrance, I always avoided any man that wore any kinda fragrance ;D
Especially before sex. Pungent colognes and strong deodorants are such a turn off.
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Especially before sex. Pungent colognes and strong deodorants are such a turn off.
I don't like it under any circumstance, sex, a dinner date, or anything else ???
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@ Ann: Pussy-beer LMAO ! ;D
I now know the gag gift to give a special friend!
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I love a man with just a light scent of cologne, although if you've ever gotten a little too close to an armpit and gotten some deodorant on your tongue...
Worst. Taste. Ever.
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I love a man with just a light scent of cologne, although if you've ever gotten a little too close to an armpit and gotten some deodorant on your tongue...
Worst. Taste. Ever.
freshly clean armpit with no deodorant - right out of the shower armpit tastes YUMMY!! ;D :P
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if you've ever gotten a little too close to an armpit and gotten some deodorant on your tongue...
Worst. Taste. Ever.
::gags::
freshly clean armpit with no deodorant - right out of the shower armpit tastes YUMMY!! ;D :P
I'm not that big on armpit taste. Now, that flavour of a clean booty... hmmmmm!
[this thread is seriously going downhill, as usual]
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[this thread is seriously going downhill, as usual]
at least it is staying on topic with "what fragrance do you wear..."
fragrance worn: freshly showered armpit - phildinftlaudy
fragrance worn: clean booty - Rev Moon
:o
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Daytime - light blue, D&G because it's light and fresh and I like it
Evenings - Angel, Thierry Muglar because I am one ;D
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lol... that is one ghastly scent.
I used to totally agree with you, until I was in Chicago in 1994 or thereabouts. Spent the night with a guy I met in a club, who was a total hippie. You know, futon mattress on the floor for a bed, no TV, raw milk smoothies sort of guy. But absolutely beautiful. And we did stuff on that futon that I'm pretty sure is still illegal in Germany, with candles lit all over and This Mortal Coil playing on his CD player.
and he wore Patchouli. I submit that scent is one of those trigger things, and that weekend imprinted that scent on my memory pretty strongly. Sadly, having been an Atlanta resident for over 20 years, and pretty much a chewtoy for and in the gay community for at least ten of those, I have a rich library of scents that are associated with fond memories.
I don't normally wear cologne myself. I actually like the smell of soap, and scented deodorant makes me gag.
I totally agree with Hellraiser that gnawing at a chalky armpit is disgusting. The fourth worst thing to encounter on a person, three being poop, two being lice, and one being chancre.
But ah... patchouli. I still listen to my This Mortal Coil albums sometimes. Still light candles, too.
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I totally agree with Hellraiser that gnawing at a chalky armpit is disgusting. The fourth worst thing to encounter on a person, three being poop, two being lice, and one being chancre.
The things you guys make me think about. I just caught myself sitting here wondering if I'd re-order that list! :-\
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Skidmarks - OK. Some peoples BO - OK. Can't deal with bad breath or plaque buildup.
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plaque buildup.
Gross!
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A fucked up grill is a dealbreaker, no matter how hot the body, or how amazing the personality. Boys get your dental work in order before you coming knocking on the stall door at my local truck stop.
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I'm not that big on armpit taste.
lightweight... don't care for Eau de Tina Sweat?
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Skidmarks - OK. Some peoples BO - OK. Can't deal with bad breath or plaque buildup.
I can't believe my oral on women stories gross you out so. I have never removed a woman's panties and found skid marks, never ever... but I have tasted blood. I guess it's one of those give and take deals that make all of us (regardless of orientation) such troopers. ::)
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Yeah, skidmarks seem to be a male-only thing. Weird. Guess we women are a bit more fastidious when it comes to wiping, maybe because of the close proximity of our other bits. Those other bits can get bacterial infections pretty easy. Ew.
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When i was a teen i was grossed out by a habit my father had. He would finger his ear and then smell it. I'm not sure if the gross out was because he did it publicly, or because he did it at all.
When I first met my longest-term boyfriend, he revealed a shocking (to me) habit. He could shove his hands down his jeans and touch the head of his uncut cock, or his asshole. Only one or the other. Then he would smell his fingers. He'd do this mostty while relaxing around the house, or in bed, but I' seen him do it in public.
I realised I had to get over what I decided was a suburban American squeamishness about body "dirt" and turned it into a neutral. And once in a blue mood, a turn-on.
I cant imagine any parent of a big family who does laundry flinches at all about dealing with the evidence of what beasties we are.
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I use Dolce & Gabanna "Light Blue"; a very simple "clean" smell.
I remember back in the 70's, the first bottle of 'expensive' cologne I bought was Van Cleef & Arpels, I paid about $50 for it at Rich's at Lenox Mall in Atlanta.
I wore Kouros for a long time...I used to think it was very 'clean' but it's kinda loud.
I still like clean soapy smells the best. Can you believe some of these Alabama redneck fags come up to our men's campground wearing COLOGNE? makes me ill.... of course, they are also the ones that have on a slew of diamond rings, gold chains, etc. I'm like Ford, can't stand jewelry. I wear my Skagen watch every day, and my white gold wedding band -- that's it. I have some nice jewelry (from when I was a bigger queen LOL) but just don't fool with it anymore.
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Jewelry and Cologne are seen as gay?
I wear a neckchain and sometimes a wristband/watch and if I'm doing anything other than work or running errands I'll usually wear a little bit of cologne. The amount used is what usually gives the "Heavy" feeling. If you're getting more than just the occasional scent of it then someone is using too much. I do one spritz on a single wrist and put my wrists together and a small spritz on the neck. Most people never even mention my cologne so I'm guessing they don't even smell it.
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Most people never even mention my cologne so I'm guessing they don't even smell it.
Maybe the smell of the diesel fuel coming from the truck stop gas pumps is overwhelming the scent of your fragrance?? :o ;D
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Maybe the smell of the diesel fuel coming from the truck stop gas pumps is overwhelming the scent of your fragrance?? :o ;D
ZZZZZING!!
W
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I dated a guy for a few months who was an AMAZING artist. But his car had crappy emissions. He would always show up at my place smelling like gasoline exhaust and acrylic paint.
To this day, that smell too makes me tingle all down there.
And I pride myself on personally not smelling like anything. I am sure there is a pathology at work.
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Jewelry and Cologne are seen as gay?
You suck cock so why do you care? Is it so important for all of you queens here, most of whom are the wispiest of wispy-fey, to come across as "straight acting" even though no straight people are buying it?
Also, "man jewelry" is called manewelry. I have a friend who wears it to excess.
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I love Polo and Jean Paul Gaultier. Gay all the way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjynuL3h2mw
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Both of the ones I use sometimes were gifts. Haven't bought any cologne in a long time.
One is AMEN, which is what ANGEL by Muegler was called in Europe. I profiled him years ago and he told me the company was afraid that AMEN would stir the religious right to object, so they changed the name for the US. The other is Kenzo, also a gift. I shpritz it into the air and then walk under it.
The others from way back -- Grey something, Quorum and others I would buy at Duty Free when flying home from Europe. I want to be in love again and have some guy introduce me to a new scent is what I want. Just sayin'...
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Ivory soap and coffee with Crest overtones
or, Ivory soap and scotch
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Ivory soap and coffee with Crest overtones
or, Ivory soap and scotch
Ivory Soap, yes...I love me a freshly Ivory'd ass on a man.
-Will
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Ivory Soap, yes...I love me a freshly Ivory'd ass on a man.
-Will
Yes, the fragrance of ole-da-soap and hot water, always worked for me ;D guess I'm not as high-class as most of you queens ::)
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You suck cock so why do you care? Is it so important for all of you queens here, most of whom are the wispiest of wispy-fey, to come across as "straight acting" even though no straight people are buying it?
What do faggez mean by "skrait acting"? I've always found that expression to be irritatingly stupid, especially on mancum profiles.
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What do faggez mean by "skrait acting"? I've always found that expression to be irritatingly stupid, especially on mancum profiles.
In the US it means BUTCH, a butch queen, but that in no way means your actually str8 acting.....LOL
and most queens can't even pull off being a butch queen, even if they think they are good at it ;D
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Haven't cool metrosexual straights forever blurred what is "straight acting" - to the point that when fags say it or want it, it seems hopelessly dated.
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BoBo Weinstein: C'mere. Why you acting all skeered and stuff? I ain't gonna bite you! :D
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Haven't cool metrosexual straights forever blurred what is "straight acting" - to the point that when fags say it or want it, it seems hopelessly dated.
Depends on what decade you grow up in and came out in, most of the queens in this Forum are 2 decades younger than me, I'm an old queer hunnie ;D
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Personally I hate colognes and scents of any kind. I use unscented deodorant. When I was single, I would only go out with someone who didn't wear cologne at all. It took me three years to get Norm out of the habit of putting on deodorant before sex. One tonguefull of that shit and the mood is broken. I like the scent of a guy, not something out of a bottle.
Ann, were I to start wearing a scent, I should think that Pussy-Beer would likely be my scent of choice if for no other reason than to horrify the few gay friends I have :-*
CaptCarl
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I don't use scent often, and when I do, it is usually Grey Flannel.
Aside from that, I don't like scented fabric softeners. UGH! Talk about a stench!
I also use a mineral crystal instead of deoderant and never did use antiperspirant.
But I don't use Ivory soap. I use Kirk's Castille soap. It is pure cocoa butter and stuff like that (I have sensitive skin that doesn't like some of the chemicals in other soaps. It smells like Ivory though.
I will sometimes use a shower gel, but the only scent I like is either eucaliptus or coconut.
I can't stand the scent of some perfumes, well, OK, most perfumes, colognes, body sprays, etc.
As for the pit smell, I prefer mine unwashed after a day of hard physical labor. Of course, the musky smell of a sweaty man, especially his crotch region, is enough to make me entertain thoughts I haven't had in a long time.;)
HUGS,
Mark
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All my men wear English Leather.
MtD
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I don't use cologne. And, like Denb can't stand the smell of them on another man. I don't like perfume on women much either.
I don't use deodorant either - IMO, biggest con ever imposed on mankind. I used to perspire like made under my arms when I used deodorants and/or anti-perspirants. I stopped using them and I stopped sweating. Go figure. Mineral crystal once every few days to once a week does the trick. Lots of ocean swimming over summer.
I don't use soaps, except for some mild cleansers on my scruffy bits.
And, we all know i detest lube.
And, finally, I can't stand the smell of jasmine which is in bloom every which way I turn at the moment. Subtle as a sledgehammer and so sickly sweet.
What's wrong with people smelling like people?
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What's wrong with people smelling like people?
Because unwashed un-deodorized people smell like ass...literally.
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Because unwashed un-deodorized people smell like ass...literally.
I never said anything about being unwashed. If you maintain good hygeine you don't 'smell like arse.... literally'.
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And, we all know i detest lube.
i didn't know that. now i do.
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I never said anything about being unwashed. If you maintain good hygeine you don't 'smell like arse.... literally'.
I agree with you. I have been paring down my scents for a while now. As I mentioned earlier, I don't wear cologne/after shave often, use the mineral crystal on the ol pits and, aside from that, just shower regularly.
I do use soap though. I like the smell of real soap like Kirk's Castille or Ivory - not those perfumed things.
I also hang as much of my laundry as I am able out on the line. There are about four months of the year when it is just too cold to do it, but otherwise, I like the smell of sun-dried clothes.
Of course, I use laundry soap that is free of dyes and perfumes.
I like that natural scent - on my clothes and on men.
HUGS,
Mark
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When I shower it is with Dial, Pear, English Lather, Irish Spring or Ivory soap. They have a nice scent for a morning or evening bath.
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All my men wear English Leather.
MtD
I thought you were kinky... ;)
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I haven't used soap or body wash or anything like that for years. Bad for the skin. Though recently I've had to use phisohex to ward off staph infections.
I thought you were kinky... ;)
Oh honey, you have no idea. :)
MtD
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I also hang as much of my laundry as I am able out on the line. There are about four months of the year when it is just too cold to do it, but otherwise, I like the smell of sun-dried clothes.
Of course, I use laundry soap that is free of dyes and perfumes.
Oh, are we now veering into laundry? I've always used detergent void of scents, and wash as much as possible with cold water (maintains the fabric better) and the only items that go in a dryer are underwear, socks and towels. Now, keep in mind I've lived in small apartments for the past 25 years with nowhere outside to hang clothing. Everything to dry is hung on my shower curtain rod and a very large drying rack. I hate the feel of blue jeans that have been in a dryer. And a dryer really screws up black clothing, of which I wear a lot.
Going back to cologne, while I do possess quite a bit I do not wear it daily, and in fact there are many days outside of summer where I don't wear any deodorant. When I first was diagnosed with HIV my doctor warned me about using to much soap while bathing saying it would dry my skin out too much, and lots of pozzies get dry skin -- he recommended not to over bathe and use soap on places that need it (armpits, crotch ass) and water is sufficient for the rest of the body.
But I still wear cologne when I am dressed up, but not for fuck dates. I also soap up more in the past few years and wear deodorant more, but I swear I think when I made my last med change it altered my body odor, either that or the fish oil I take daily does.
Also, Matty is a queen down under, dude from hell and hateful hobbit
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And a dryer really screws up black clothing, of which I wear a lot.
Is that beat black, existential black, or goth black? Enquiring minds want to know.
Also, Matty is a queen down under, dude from hell and hateful hobbit
Are you saying that Mr Hell and JK are really socks of Matty's? Oh dear!
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Is that beat black, existential black, or goth black? Enquiring minds want to know.
My parents call it "NYC black". I also like white and olive drab.
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Burberry Touch.
I never used or bought any cologne because I never could find any scents that I found complemented me. Then last winter, I was shopping with a friend who is a fragrance hound, and I bought Burberry Touch. I don't wear it every day -- just on special occasions.
I use deodorant only, not anti-perspirant. It just can't be good to clog up your sweat glands with anti-perspirant, and it can really ruin clothing. Since I don't sweat a log, deodorant can be very triggering.
Stepping into the way-back machine, my first partner wore Givenchy Gentleman, and my second partner wore Joop!. It's surprising how scents and fragrances can be powerful triggers of memories.
Regards,
Henry
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My parents call it "NYC black". I also like white and olive drab.
Oh yeah my folks called it that too. If my sis bro and I were all due home, my mom would call ahead and tell us not to dress for a funeral in "your NYC black" because there wasn't one to go to.