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Off Topic Forums => Off Topic Forum => Topic started by: Jeffreyj on August 01, 2006, 05:51:49 pm
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I have a friend well connected to the Hollywood scene. It is widely known that Gibson hates gays. I can't say I'm surprised. I had my doubts a year ago when I heard this. Those doubts have now been erased.
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I heard this years ago and for that reason won't go to his movies.
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I will never support anything his does. The man is ill. On many levels.
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Like many artist..past and present... Mel Gibson is a tortured soul. :o And although I do not care for him as a person...his views and attitudes...I do enjoy his films. At least the ones he's directed. The one he has coming out soon ( I saw the previews at the theatre) looks like it should be a great movie and no doubt I'll be sitting on the front row. Just my opinion ::)
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I think his words on gays were "I don't like the way they walk, and I don't like the way that they talk"
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I have always like Mel Gibson movies. The ones hes starred in as well as the ones hes directed.
I thought when he was arrested he only made anti-semitic comments. Which is really sad!
Teresa
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Thats pretty wild... I met Mell 7 years ago and sat in a support group next to him... I should have given him a kiss.. ;D
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crap...look at his mugshot...looks like I lent him the shirt from my avatar...
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He didn't make any anti gay sentiments in his recent outburst. the don't like the way they walk/talk comment was made a long time ago, possible while he was still in Aus.
I don't like him or his movies one bit >:(
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Gibson
Accusations of homophobia
Some gay rights groups accused Gibson of homophobia, after a 1992 interview in the Spanish magazine El Pais. Asked what he thought of gay people, he said, "They take it up the ass." Gibson gestured descriptively, continuing, "This is only for taking a shit." When the interviewer recalled that Gibson previously had expressed fear that people would think he is gay because he's an actor, Gibson replied, "Do I sound like a homosexual? Do I talk like them? Do I move like them? I think not." He later defended his comments on Good Morning America, saying, "[Those remarks were a response] to a direct question. If someone wants my opinion, I'll give it. What, am I supposed to lie to them?"[19][20]
In January 1997, to make amends with the gay community, Gibson and the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation hosted ten lesbian and gay filmmakers for an on-location seminar on the set of the movie Conspiracy Theory.[21]*
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*I was living in Hollywood at the time, and it was quite the controversy.
His attempts to reach out and make amends to the gay community were widely viewed as contrived and disingenuous.
He was an asshole 14 years ago, and he's still an asshole.
It has nothing to do with alcohol. His BAC was .12, fcol. Too high to drive legally, but certainly not stumbling, drooling, out-of-your-mind drunk--particularly for a 50 year-old man with a long-term penchant for the bottle.
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I've boycotted his films for years, even though my friends insist Braveheart is a great movie. I just can't bring myself to knowingly support that a-hole in any way shape or form.
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(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/jordanmichigan/mel.jpg)
You can read more about his recent incident here:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/melgibsonmug1.html
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Some good news on this matter.
Gibson (who spent a considerable amount of his younger years in Australia) was to be appointed as a Life Governor of the National Institute of Dramatic Arts (NIDA). NIDA is generally held to be Australia's leading drama school and Gibson is an alumnus.
After his latest drunken rant about the Jews, this appointment is "under review".
Gibson is a notorious bigot and has long been known to hold anti-semitic attitudes, just like his odious father. I mean think that appalling film he made would have been better titled The Bloodlust of the Yids than The Passion of the Christ. It is one of the most offensive and anti-semitic things I've ever seen.
MtD
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dont understand why entertainers feel compelled to tell us their opinions on everything. I wanna be entertained not bored. Most of these boneheads dont even have an education. Dont they understand they are costing themselves customers.
You all have found one crazy dude, and maybe the only person in the entertainment business who openly dislikes gays. How do you think it feels to be a conservative or libertarian? Its hard to find one person who doesnt hate you.
Is there some univeral norm for the way gay people walk and talk? my fav is "agador" in the bird cage without his chuse. wait, i forgot about nathan lane as john wayne. i have gone off topic again.
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How do you think it feels to be a conservative or libertarian? Its hard to find one person who doesnt hate you.
Everyone hates conservatives? Oh come on Jakey that's something of a long bow to draw. You're right about Libertarians, everyone does hate them and for good reason.
They're the dogshit of politics. ;)
MtD
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"Swing Away Mel, swing away...."
People break down into two groups..
when they experience something lucky.
Group number one sees it as more than luck,
more than coincidence.
They see it as a sign...
evidence that there is someone up there
watching out for them.
Group number two sees it as just pure luck,
a happy turn of chance.
I'm sure the people in group number two
are looking at those lights in a very suspicious way.
For them, the situation isn't - .
Could be bad, could be good.
But deep down,
they feel that whatever happens,
they're on their own.
And that fills them with fear.
Yeah, there are those people.
But there's a whole lot of people in the group number one.
When they see those lights,
they're looking at a miracle.
And deep down, they feel that whatever's going to happen,
there'll be someone there to help them.
And that fills them with hope.
See, what you have to ask yourself is, what kind of person are you?
Are you the kind who sees signs, sees miracles?
Or do you believe that people just get lucky?
Or look at the question this way...
is it possible that there are no coincidences?
It could also just mean I am totally full of shit have an alcohol problem
and have this problem with the gays... Go Figure?
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What makes me laugh is the guy they worship was brought up Jewish and their god did all all that marvelous stuff for the Jews. I notice when people are bigoted they are bigoted against everyone but those like them.
Wonder how the Aussies felt when he moved into the neighborhood?
Cheers
Johnny
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Matty, apparently you haven't watched many US tv shows, US news shows, or US movies lately.
(which is probably a good thing).
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Matty, I did not mean to equate the hatred that some knuckleheads have towards gays to the hatred of conservatives by other knuckleheads. I was only commenting on the volume out of Hwood.
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Matty, I did not mean to equate the hatred that some knuckleheads have towards gays to the hatred of conservatives by other knuckleheads. I was only commenting on the volume out of Hwood.
It's cool Jakey, I know what you mean. It's the typical conservative whine about the evil "liberal media" which is, like almost everything else concocted by the Right a total load of crap.
We get Fox News here too babe.
MtD
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Being Jewish I was very hurt by Mel Gibson's comments that "the Jews start all the wars", particularly since I feel awful about the whole damned mess going on in Lebanon now with all the Israeli soldiers being seen as Goliath, and all the displaced, not to mention murdered and injured people (on both sides of the dispute)...But for centuries Jews were the victims of wars and disputes fought by religious majorities and lived their lives at the whims of kings, queens, czars, nobility, and clergy lay people...So Gibson ought to check his history a little...Actually I used to think he was a cool straight guy and I thought his acting was OK, but now that he has more wrinkles than an un-made bed at the Motel 6, I guess he is really losing it !!!
Tee Hee Hee.
Jody ;D
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Matty, just about every actor or musician I like is far left and it seems as if they spend their entire life outside of work bashing righty. robin williams,Clooney(it good all his recent movies suck cause I don't mind missing them),martin sheen(and the entire cast of the absolute best show on network tv),dreyfuss,spacey,redford,newman,robbins and his commie wife and so many others I just cant go on,its too depressing. Do you know how hard it is to buy products,even though you love them,from people who ridicule you day and night? Don't answer that.
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Jody, I guess if you are Jewish and Gay, you are really on this guys shit list. Its hard to believe the same guy who made "man without a face" really harbors these kinds of feelings.
Not to change the subject but posting crap from wikepedia is really sorta of worthless. It has no credibility. Can't anyone contribute?
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Not to change the subject but posting crap from wikepedia is really sorta of worthless. It has no credibility. Can't anyone contribute?
I totally agree Jakey. Anyone who relies on Wikipedia to support a position has lost the argument in my opinion. Wikipedians are weirdos. It's like a cult. Check out the "talk" pages on their articles. Looooooooooonies.
MtD
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I found it very funny because I didn't think the public opinion of him could get lower - and he does that. He is the Hollywood Prince Philip for sticking his foot in it.
R
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Not to change the subject but posting crap from wikepedia is really sorta of worthless. It has no credibility. Can't anyone contribute?
Har! I actually agree...in fact, I just edited out the stuff about his later movies.
I was looking for the quotes from that Spanish magazine, which I didn't recall verbatim, which stirred up the controversy about Mel and his homophobia back in '92.
Yes...I took the google path of least resistance. Sue me.
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ademus. It just seems in the past few months whenever you google something you get some wakypedia link. It wasn't till about third time that I realized it was all bullshit.
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I hear you, jack. I do.
Just wait 'til our ISP's have it their way.
It's only going to get worse.
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In my mind he's right up there (or down there) with Tom Cruise. I think they're both idiots.
Alan (who may be a fag but at least I don't have a mug shot!)
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LOL Allan..3 apologies and counting. Come on Mel, get the script right! FOR God's SAKE!
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I LOVE MEL GIBSON AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SEE ALL HIS MOVIES!!!IF HE HAS A DRINKING PROBLEM ,THATS HIS PROBLEM AND NOBODY ELSES.WE ALL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RACISM IN US,IT'S PART OF OUR NATURE AND THATS THE WAY IT WILL ALWAYS BE!!!
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ARMANDO, I agree with you. I don't think that anyone that has gotten smashed didn't make some sort of ass out of themselves. If it would have been anyone of us here, you would have never heard a thing of it. Just because they are actors, doesn't make them different than anyone of us.
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Rapid Rod...I think being an Actor and making the millions he makes, holds him to a higher standard then most "normal" people. That just comes with the territory.
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I used to like Mel Gibson and his movies, but I have no tolerance for bigots who spout whatever hatred enters their mind. His latest tirade was his mind speaking freely and honestly as the alcohol had dampened his "censuring" ability. Think about this. Mel was raised by a father who denies the Holocaust ever happened, so why is anyone surprised that he hates Jews?
Mel is welcome to his problems and opinions as I am to mine. He has proved himself to be a jerk and as such I won't spend one penny to enrich such a bigot.
And Armando, you are dead wrong, because very few of us are racists, because racism is not built into our genes, but rather it is a learned behavior. No one is ever born a racist or bigot, they are taught how to do it by someone else. For you to suggest that it is an inborn trait is just another excuse racists use for why they are so despicable.
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I am not defending Mel cause if you have seen Passion, which I liked, he definately has it in for Jews, but alcohol is a poison. Some of us are allergic to it. I know I am. I loved to drink, but I would do and say things on alcohol that I would never do sober. I know many people who are very nice when sober,but turn into people you want to run from after a few drinks, and they have no idea how they are acting.
Mel shouldnt drink cause he cant drink. Thats why I quit drinking(with the aid of crixivan), and it saved my life.
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I am not defending Mel cause if you have seen Passion, which I liked, he definately has it in for Jews, but alcohol is a poison. Some of us are allergic to it. I know I am. I loved to drink, but I would do and say things on alcohol that I would never do sober. I know many people who are very nice when sober,but turn into people you want to run from after a few drinks, and they have no idea how they are acting.
Mel shouldnt drink cause he cant drink. Thats why I quit drinking(with the aid of crixivan), and it saved my life.
You are nice when you are sober? :o
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Theres a pretty good video on YouTube now , a sort of re enactment of the arrest , I'm not going to post a link to it because its pretty offensive but a youtube tag search for Mel Gibson DUI video should find it...
I wonder if he actually called a female officer 'SugarT***S' ? Ive heard that from several different places... if it had been anyone else they probablly would have taken turns alternately Tasering and PepperSpraying his ass.
I wonder if theyll ever release the actual video from the Cop car.
He's entitled to his drunken rants as much as the next guy, but as someone in the public eye , his career is literally a Popularity Contest and I doubt he'll ever fully regain his credability.
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I was watching the View the other day and Joy Behar said that she thinks the only way Mel Gibson can make it up to the Jewish community would be for a public circumcision.
I thought that was funny.
Teresa
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I tried this last night but it got lost. So here goes again. Do any of these readers think the "Monkey in Chief" has any different feelings. Bush is a pupett and his handlers pretty much tell him what to think. So it is not a far streach to think Our President ( hate to use those words) has not said the same about Jews, Nergos and Gays). But for some reason the "Coup Boy" is immune to such to the same. Mel Gibson was beaten near death as a kid and was takne in by the church. His movies reflect a strong feeling od betrayal and violence. He came from nothing to become a good actor and director. It is just the American way to hail someone until it is time to kick the to the curb. Castro, Norega,Saddam. Batiste and the list goes on. Why is it that it is ok to Bring in Nixon and then when things turn so the populus. Heck I personally think the 51st state Isreal is just a conduit for American arms makers to sell more weapons. Think of how much tax dollars goes to Isreal just to be spent back in the USE to byu arms. So if in this country one can not express a view ( however ture) then hell it is really the new World Order. Monkey Boy ( Bush) attempts to massage a female chancellor of Germany and nothing much gets said. Bush an ex drunk pune in immune from any critisim, but a drunk Mel Gibson says Jews are responsible for most Wars( think about the facts) and now it is time to kick him to the curb??? Why is the mentality of this country such that we back a hero until he fucks up. How many elected officials are guilty of much worse wrong doing and we simply forget?? It is simple "Short Attention Span" So simply give the man a break, cause I have been drunk and said shit , and if he is not in love with the Jews , there are amny,many who share the same feeling. Hell you think Monkey Boy Bush lover Gays, Jews or Niggers? I think not . It is simply a media distraction tool to give people a feeling their opinion matters, cause for sure the last "Cuop" is a great indication that Diebold machines helped the dick steal another election ( and he will do it a third time 22ed ammendment repael is in the house) so I dislike a lot of people as they dislike me ( road rage) so get off the high horse and put it into prespective. America kissed Saddams ass when it was good. Please do not be hipprotical. Think of us with HIV or AIDS are the doctors we see really interested in oue well being or just in "business" to push the latest Pharmg Chick meds .. Angry , yes. But look deep and see what it is really about. Be well, live ( without suffering) Me..
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I just don't buy the argument that you start spouting ideas you disbelieve because you've had a few drinks. I wouldn't start saying I was a communist, or a Republican for that matter, just because I was drunk.If anything I think alcohol is something of a truth serum and deep seated things you believe, which you usually suppress, come out. Judging from Gibson's virulent comments i.e "Are you a Jew?", "Those fu.....g Jews" and "Jews start all the wars" I think Gibson has an irrational, deep seated anti-semitism. Apparently he must have fallen for much of his father's infamous anti-semitism. His father is a well known holocaust denialist.I think his apologies are purely pr damage control. I also think, added to some of his previous oddball comments, that he isn't very bright.He's still cute, but pretty is as pretty does.
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Gibson has form for being a bigot. He's not just a homophobe, but he's a noted jew-baiter as well. How else could one describe that fucking dreadful film he made?
Consider his revolting father Hutton -- the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
MtD
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Mel Gibson was beaten near death as a kid and was takne in by the church.
who beat him? sorry i know very little about Mel Gibson apart from him playing the Martian-destroying spiritually tormented widower in Signs
thanks
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First time I seen him in the movie TIM I thought he was a joke and a movie whore. If there was a buck in it, he's love Gays. He's just a jerk and a so so actor. He doesnt deserve all this attention, good or bad. And I can never get over why people care what some movie actor thinks? You're average N.Y. cab driver has more common sense than any movie/TV actor. Really...