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Off Topic Forums => Off Topic Forum => Topic started by: skeebo1969 on August 14, 2010, 09:05:21 am
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I don't know how true it is, but I once heard that mosques are made where major victories occur. I guess this is why a mosque at the trade center spot is essential and our president supports it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100814/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_ground_zero_mosque_obama
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Not hate. Deeply disappointed in. But not hate.
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(http://www.think-israel.org/mar09pix/obama-bows-to-saudi-king1.jpg)
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(http://pictureschat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/barack_obama5.jpg)
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This has been the silliest, manufactured right wing outrage. This place is basically a community center with a prayer room.
Right wingers are always about local control, so why don't they allow the residents of Lower Manhattan to decide what is essentially a land use issue?
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And the sturdy looking suited butt projected to near 3-D forward frame in the first photo belongs to...
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(http://pictureschat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/barack_obama5.jpg)
I didn't even know that he knew how to skateboard. Wow, learn something new everyday! ;D
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I am ashamed of any American, who can propagate such hatred against any religion, just because murderers twist that religion for their own needs. American Muslims died in the attacks of 9/11 and hundreds of millions of people, practice the Islam religion and many share the same ideals as Americans.
Let's see, where have we heard such bigoted rhetoric before? Oh I know. All poz people are either disgusting gays or drug users, so who cares if they die. Yes, real American values.
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9/11 happened almost over a decade ago, and some just cannot get over that hatred it's so ingrained into them, and that is such a shame ???
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I find it hard to believe that people are actually citing the statements of such "intellectual giants" as Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich.
Islam isn't the only religion to be twisted to suit the needs of the moment. Christianity is rife with such abuse, from people being accused of witchcraft being burned at the stake, hanged or drowned, to that varmint Fred Phelps, who uses Christianity and the Freedom of Speech to disrupt funerals of soldiers killed abroad and, of course, those who died as a result of AIDS.
The site of the mosque/community center is two blocks from Ground Zero, not on the site itself.
While I am sympathetic to those who lost loved ones in those attacks, blaming all Muslims for the deeds of a few wing nuts would be like blaming all Christians for the atrocities committed by Charlemagne against the Germanic peoples in the name of Christianity.
Oh, and for the record, I agree with and support what the president said.
HUGS,
Mark
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Let's let FDNY, NYPD and the Port Authority decide. They will be the ones that it will be left upon to protect it.
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Let's let FDNY, NYPD and the Port Authority decide. They will be the ones that it will be left upon to protect it.
That's not how things work in NYC. If that's how you do it in Ohio then go ahead and do that. Otherwise butt out.
Hey, speaking of local issues -- how's Ed Rendell's baby killing going via ObamaCare that you lied about last month and then never could back up with actual facts?
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That's not how things work in NYC. If that's how you do it in Ohio then go ahead and do that. Otherwise butt out.
Hey, speaking of local issues -- how's Ed Rendell's baby killing going via ObamaCare that you lied about last month and then never could back up with actual facts?
Did you post this thread? You don't live in NY.
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Did you post this thread? You don't live in NY.
I lived in Lower Manhattan for six years, and I worked there for twelve years -- I'd say I know more about the issue and what the residents are like than you do, Roddles. Try again.
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Guess what; our peroxide blonde Chucky is going to speak on the next 9/11 memorial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAqjVMcp3CY&feature=youtube_gdata
(I'm ashamed to be Dutch)
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That's not how things work in NYC. If that's how you do it in Ohio then go ahead and do that. Otherwise butt out.
Hey, speaking of local issues -- how's Ed Rendell's baby killing going via ObamaCare that you lied about last month and then never could back up with actual facts?
What are you talking about? You don't live in NY. Really, how many New Yorkers are for building the Mosque in that location? Since you don't live in NY MissP you don't get to vote. :)
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What are you talking about? You don't live in NY. Really, how many New Yorkers are for building the Mosque in that location? Since you don't live in NY MissP you don't get to vote. :)
Did the community board approve it or not -- they did. That's all that matters with this type of issue. It's a local issue for that community, and not even residents in Queens, Staten Island, or bumfuck Ohio.
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Did the community board approve it or not -- they did. That's all that matters with this type of issue. It's a local issue for that community, and not even residents in Queens, Staten Island, or bumfuck Ohio.
The community board is not the majority of the New Yorkers. Like I said, Let's let FDNY, NYPD and the Port Authority decide. They will be the ones that it will be left upon to protect it. again MissP you don't get a vote on it. :)
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The community board is not the majority of the New Yorkers. Like I said, Let's let FDNY, NYPD and the Port Authority decide. They will be the ones that it will be left upon to protect it. again MissP you don't get a vote on it. :)
The community board decides an issues like this, and you're merely exhibiting either your ignorance on this fact or allowing your ethnocentric and religious-based hatred to get the better of you. Take your pick.
Should the location of a gay community center in Chelsea be allowed a majority vote of all residents of all five boroughs of NYC? Furthermore, should Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin weigh in on the gay community center?
A clear yes or no will suffice. Thanks.
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The community board decides an issues like this, and you're merely exhibiting either your ignorance on this fact or allowing your ethnocentric and religious-based hatred to get the better of you. Take your pick.
Should the location of a gay community center in Chelsea be allowed a majority vote of all residents of all five boroughs of NYC? Furthermore, should Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin weigh in on the gay community center?
A clear yes or no will suffice. Thanks.
Sure they can. It's no different then you discussing the Mosque is it? You attacking me MissP because I said,Let's let FDNY, NYPD and the Port Authority decide. They will be the ones that it will be left upon to protect it? :)
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Clear yes or no Roddles. Just answer my question.
And no, the Fired Department, Police Department and PA do not decide zoning issues. Clearly you can't argue your way out of paper bag if your life depends on it.
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Clear yes or no Roddles. Just answer my question.
And no, the Fired Department, Police Department and PA do not decide zoning issues. Clearly you can't argue your way out of paper bag if your life depends on it.
Don't think you have to worry MissP. A Lawsuit was Filed Challenging Ground Zero Mosque was submitted on the 4th of August against who? No other than the THE NEW YORK CITY LANDMARKS
PRESERVATION COMMISSION,
http://www.aclj.org/media/pdf/ACLJ_EXECUTED-PETITION_20100804.pdf (http://www.aclj.org/media/pdf/ACLJ_EXECUTED-PETITION_20100804.pdf)
I'm not arguing or attacking you MissP. I just made an opinion on Skeebo's thread.
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got it... you got nuffin'
Are you even aware that two mosques already exist (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/nyregion/14mosque.html) in that area? No, of course you don't. Why would you? You know absolutely nothing of that area.
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got it... you got nuffin'
Are you even aware that two mosques already exist (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/nyregion/14mosque.html) in that area? No, of course you don't. Why would you? You know absolutely nothing of that area.
Find someone else to argue with MissP. You don't live in New York and I don't, so it is not up to us, you nor I have a say so in the building of the Mosque.
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Find someone else to argue with MissP. You don't live in New York and I don't, so it is not up to us, you nor I have a say so in the building of the Mosque.
As I clearly stated in my first post in the thread, which I will repeat because you have a reading disability
Right wingers are always about local control, so why don't they allow the residents of Lower Manhattan to decide what is essentially a land use issue?
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Oh now anyone that doesn't agree with you is a Right Winger? :D Your funny...
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I didn't even know that he knew how to skateboard. Wow, learn something new everyday! ;D
I about shit when I found the pic.
Miss P back off of Roddles he just had a stroke!
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Rut roe.... they say this will certainly cause him to lose another 1%..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100814/ts_afp/uspoliticsreligionattacksobama_20100814172344
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Why are people so simple minded to not see a difference between terrorist acts of recent history, committed by terrorists, against people of all faiths, such as 9-11, and one of the world's major faiths, such as Islam?
Even George Bush could understand that.
That said, the financing for this mega center seems shady. Hope someone gets that sorted so as not go cause major embarrassment all around.
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I tend to agree with the Canadian muslim who said that building the mosque in this location was provocative and a little bit insensitive. Should they have the right to practice their religion where they see fit? Sure, why not, but couldn't they pick a location other than where an Islamic fundamentalist group perpetrated a massive terrorist attack on US citizens (of all faiths I might add)?
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I tend to agree with the Canadian muslim who said that building the mosque in this location was provocative and a little bit insensitive. Should they have the right to practice their religion where they see fit? Sure, why not, but couldn't they pick a location other than where an Islamic fundamentalist group perpetrated a massive terrorist attack on US citizens (of all faiths I might add)?
It's definitely a sensitive issue. IMO, the pres should have stayed out of this one.
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I tend to agree with the Canadian muslim who said that building the mosque in this location was provocative and a little bit insensitive. Should they have the right to practice their religion where they see fit? Sure, why not, but couldn't they pick a location other than where an Islamic fundamentalist group perpetrated a massive terrorist attack on US citizens (of all faiths I might add)?
So then you also advocate relocating the other two mosques near the WTC site? What's the acceptable radius for a mosque free zone?
Also, the mosque in question isn't a mosque -- it's a community center with a prayer room. And it's two blocks away, and not even on a main street. It's on a side street.
It amazes me to see gay people of all people so susceptible to right wing demagoguery (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/08/the_absurdity_of_the_anti-mosq.html)
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So then you also advocate relocating the other two mosques near the WTC site? What's the acceptable radius for a mosque free zone?
Also, the mosque in question isn't a mosque -- it's a community center with a prayer room. And it's two blocks away, and not even on a main street. It's on a side street.
It amazes me to see gay people of all people so susceptible to right wing demagoguery (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/08/the_absurdity_of_the_anti-mosq.html)
I think you're being rather dismissive, and I think 62% of Americans would disagree with you. Does this show a growing trend of Islamphobia (sp?), perhaps maybe. But I also look at it another way, we wouldn't allow Nazi's to demonstrate on the Holocaust Memorial due to the sensitive nature of them doing so, but under the Constitution they should be allowed to. This issue is along those same lines, whether the intent is hate or ignorance, both draw upon people's emotions. As Trey pointed out, the author in Canada has even deemed this move provocative. If Muslims felt so, then why can't Americans?
And while all this happened a long 8 years ago, should we forget it's the reason we are losing young men daily?
Personally speaking, if it was me, I would build the fucker to look exactly like a scaled version of a Boeing 727 jetliner... now that would take balls son!!
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So then you also advocate relocating the other two mosques near the WTC site? What's the acceptable radius for a mosque free zone?
Also, the mosque in question isn't a mosque -- it's a community center with a prayer room. And it's two blocks away, and not even on a main street. It's on a side street.
It amazes me to see gay people of all people so susceptible to right wing demagoguery (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/08/the_absurdity_of_the_anti-mosq.html)
No I totally get that the right wing is attempting to blow this out of proportion. I would have taken the location into consideration when picking some place for my new mosque or islamic community center to be. Were the other two mosques in place before the 9/11 attacks? I honestly don't know how far away from Ground Zero this place is as I've only heard the hub bub from all the news media outlets. I'm not big on religion in the first place of course. I feel like Christians, Jews, and Muslims should all be forced to worship together in Israel and the rest of the world could get on with being secular humanists.
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And while all this happened a long 8 years ago, should we forget it's the reason we are losing young men daily?
Well no, if you're referring to the wars, then it's because Co-presidents Cheney and Bush wanted war.
The location of the mosque is certainly in bad taste, but when has that ever stopped anything from being built in America? I'm enjoying the discomfiture of the lunatic right, the champion of religious freedom and private property rights. I'd like to see plans for an indoor firing range to be added, just to add to the confusion.
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But I also look at it another way, we wouldn't allow Nazi's to demonstrate on the Holocaust Memorial due to the sensitive nature of them doing so
It's stuff like this where I get a good glimpse at your IQ -- the appropriate analogy would be all Germans, because you're also painting all Muslims about the Cordoba House mixed use community center.
How do you feel when society paints a picture of all pozzies due to the irresponsible acts of one HIV+ person?
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It's stuff like this where I get a good glimpse at your IQ -- the appropriate analogy would be all Germans, because you're also painting all Muslims about the Cordoba House mixed use community center.
How do you feel when society paints a picture of all pozzies due to the irresponsible acts of one HIV+ person?
Oh really, why because I can see both sides of the arguement? I could care less what they do with the spot. How ya like that bitch?
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I don't see anything insensitive about the Islamic community center's location. People who say it is insensitive are having both intellectual and emotional convolution and conflation of terrorists (who were Muslim) with the religion of Islam. It's very sloppy.
If I am not mistaken, the original plans for the World Trade center site memorials included an interfaith community center on the very site. It's a pity that has been dropped.
I think putting the proposed community center there, is Islamic people's way of marking the point that they MUST not be confused with a few terrorists. I see it as an act of faith in the peacefulness of the faith.
But at least the Mayor and the President speak out clearly, just as did George Bush, in his time. Obama is kind of hedging - he should have kept his mouth shut or just fully embraced all religions who want to build community and peace, around such a sink hole of hate.
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It amazes me to see gay people of all people so susceptible to right wing demagoguery (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/08/the_absurdity_of_the_anti-mosq.html)
Yeah, apparently tolerance has its limits, especially --and ironically-- for a subset of society that deals with [and complains about] different forms of stigma on a regular basis.
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Yeah, apparently tolerance has its limits, especially --and ironically-- for a subset of society that deals with [and complains about] different forms of stigma on a regular basis.
And if you're poz and gay that's double ironic jeopardy.
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If I worked in any of the new buildings at ground zero (when they all get built), I would feel better having the mosque inside the Freedom Tower. I would feel like terrorists would think twice about destroying a mosque. But, they have before so maybe that isn't good insurance.
I'm with Miss P on this. I feel for the families, but Muslims weren't responsible. A few nuts were--most of whom were from Saudi Arabia. Have we cut off relations with that country (when we have many other good reasons to do so) or stopped taking their oil? Give me a break!
Edited for spelling
Edited for spelling once again!!
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This whole issue of an Islamic cultural centre at Ground Zero has got shit all to do with religion. This is about race.
Dog whistling is the same no matter where it happens. And it's not surprising to hear the same old hounds yapping away in this thread.
Speaking of yapping, it's quite a hoot to see Rodney dismissing Miss P's opinions as invalid because she doesn't dwell on Manhattan Island. I suppose the view must be pretty good from Ohio, eh Roddles?
Islam is a religion of brown people. Muslim is just a code word for "funny coloured folks". Precisely the same thing happens down here. Be they Arabs, Indonesians, Iranians, Malaysians, Sudanese, Afghans or whatever other flavour they come in we don't like 'em and we sure as shit don't want them building their nests and doing their thing near where we are.
They make us feel icky.
Sure the symbolism of a rug-kisser prayer room at the WTC site is potent, but as Miss P notes above there are others within the radius, why is this one so offensive? It's not even a fucking mosque.
MtD
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This whole issue of an Islamic cultural centre at Ground Zero has got shit all to do with religion. This is about race.
Of course it is about race but it is about religion. Many Americans believe America is a Christian country and don't truly believe in freedom of religion. The litmus test is "do you believe in Jesus?" Answer yes, you are okay, answer no, you are not. There is no way a white male atheist could be elected president but a "brown" person obviously can. It is not rational, and it is blatant scapegoating, but some Americans believe Muslims are the enemy because they are not Christian and they (falsely) caused 911.
My feeling is if the zoning committee would approve a church or synagogue on the site they should approve a mosque. Also, I think Obama did the right thing by supporting religious freedom.
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The only thing I hate about this thread is the use of the word "peeps" in the title. Ew. "Peeps" makes me cringe every time I hear it used.
It totally disgusts me up how so many Americans rant and rave about "freedom", like the anti-mosque "American Freedom Defence Initiative", but yet they want to curtail the freedoms of other Americans. Do they not see how ridiculous they are? Obviously the answer to that question is a resounding NO.
Of course they should be allowed to build the community center. Why shouldn't they? Their right to religious freedom is enshrined in the US Constitution. Pretty simple open and shut case if you ask me.
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To correct the OP's post, I believe President Obama said he supports the right of Muslims to build a community centre (or mosque) on the site. Isn't that in keeping with the USA's tradition of religious tolerance? However, Obama did not say he supports the specific proposal.
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Oh, how glorious -- Gert Wilders is jetting in to lead a rally with Newt Gingrich (http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/295988). Yet another example of how this isn't about what they claim, and how extremist the GOP has become.
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Revolting development - this extremism. Will win them some seats in November, however.
The hypocrisy of the right acting like such brownshirts, while calling Obama's social welfare politics fascist.
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The only thing I hate about this thread is the use of the word "peeps" in the title. Ew. "Peeps" makes me cringe every time I hear it used.
(http://www.spokesmanreview.com/media/photos/20080324_peeps.jpg)
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Thankfully in America we don't get to pick and choose who is covered by the Bill of Rights.
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LET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DECIDE!
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(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af197/bedstuy65/wtcmosque.jpg)
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Obama clarified what he meant Friday in Florida. Yes they should be allowed to build it but it's location is a little insensitive.
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Obama clarified what he meant Friday in Florida. Yes they should be allowed to build it but it's location is a little insensitive.
link (http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/137422/Obama-on-mosque-plans-at-Ground-Zero)
Obama didn't say it was insensitive -- stop lying. He said “I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making a decision to put a mosque there.”
You have no shame Roddles. None. But then you just lied last month about Gov. Rendell funding abortions with ObamaCare programs so this should surprise nobody here.
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Whatever MissP. He's out in 2012 anyway.
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And if that wasn't clear enough for the brain dead among us, Saturday the White House clarified it once again[url]. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41069.html#ixzz0wjOvN4hV)
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Whatever MissP. He's out in 2012 anyway.
You're a joke -- you can't even admit when you blatantly lie for political points. Not once but twice.
It's like that time you lied about something Doxie said, and Tim Horn required you retract it publicly, and instead of doing what he requested you slinked away from the forums for an entire month until posting again.
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How many days till the 2010 elections MissP? Do you think you'll keep all your seats?
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Whatever MissP. He's out in 2012 anyway.
lulz, wow... you amaze me some times.
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Nevermind. I am having photo trouble.
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lulz, wow... you amaze me some times.
She's trying real hard to change the subject away from her repeated lying, like a good lil' Republican.
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lulz, wow... you amaze me some times.
If you haven't noticed Rev. Moon I don't like Obama or Biden and some of the Senators and Representatives.
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She's trying real hard to change the subject away from her repeated lying, like a good lil' Republican.
That's their specialty. Especially since some of them have nothing (as in... facts... logic... etc..) to support their statements then they must use nothing but smoke and mirrors.
Sad.
If you haven't noticed Rev. Moon I don't like Obama or Biden and some of the Senators and Representatives.
Trust me Roddles, I have noticed. And I remain amazed. We are cool, but I am amazed nonetheless.
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She's trying real hard to change the subject away from her repeated lying, like a good lil' Republican.
I got news for you I'm no she MissP. I'll make sure you have your Kleenexes come November.
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I got news for you I'm no she MissP.
Like I said earlier, please stop with the lies LOL
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Like I said earlier, please stop with the lies LOL
LOL, how many days is it 80 give or take a day? Obama said he wants change. :D
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Ain't it grand how some homos can just lie through their teeth, have zero compunction and express absolutely no remorse?
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Ain't it grand how some homos can just lie through their teeth, have zero compunction and express absolutely no remorse?
Yes, I was going to ask you why you do that, but I just placed the blame on the poppers. I have remorse. Hey MissP why is it not all of PA agrees with you or is it you just read the Huff Post?
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Hey MissP why is it not all of PA agrees with you or is it you just read the Huff Post?
There you go, lying again -- this makes three times. I used an NPR link (you do know what that is, right?) to counter your erroneous claim last month about abortions in Pennsylvania. Naturally you were unable to back up your assertion because it was a lie manufactured on some right wing web site.
Like I said to you earlier in this thread, you can't argue your way out of paper bag.
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There you go, lying again -- this makes three times. I used an NPR link (you do know what that is, right?) to counter your erroneous claim last month about abortions in Pennsylvania. Naturally you were unable to back up your assertion because it was a lie manufactured on some right wing web site.
Like I said to you earlier in this thread, you can't argue your way out of paper bag.
I'm not here to argue. I'm just stating my opinion just like you. All you can do is assert to calling people names that don't agree with you.. I look at it you're leaving everyone else alone. They probably appreciate the break. :)
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I'm not here to argue. I'm just stating my opinion just like you. All you can do is assert to calling people names that don't agree with you.. I look at it you're leaving everyone else alone. They probably appreciate the break. :)
No dear, a lie isn't an "opinion" it's just a lie -- and one that's easily rebutted by providing a primary news source. Anyone with a high school degree should know this.
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No dear, a lie isn't an "opinion" it's just a lie -- and one that's easily rebutted by providing a primary news source. Anyone with a high school degree should know this.
You're so funny.. :D
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The Right and the media are making this center an issue. Its cynical for both to be doing this.
I feel dumb, because I don't get why the location is an issue at all. Is that pollyanna of me?
I decided to read again about Al-Qaeda's and the Salafi jihadist justifications for 9/11. It's chilling and I see that the same jihadist view results in death and terror many times in recent history - Algeria in particular, but post-Saddam Iraq also. Muslim radicals killing other muslims.
After 9/11, all governments and all the Islam "establishment" rejected jihadi terror - as not part of the Islam religion. It's terror, pure and simple. And fanatics. Fascists.
It seems to me that the really fundamentalist christian right would make good bed fellows with the radical muslims - its all about fanatical devotion to ancient texts, misread and selectively applied to contemporary situations.
A french guy put this quote on his gay chat profile, that I saw today and thought is just marvelous:
Un peu d'argumentation face aux crétins qui nous jugent
Récemment une célèbre animatrice radio états-unienne fit remarquer que l’homosexualité est une perversion. « C’est ce que dit la Bible dans le livre du Lévitique, chapitre 18, verset 22 : « Tu ne coucheras pas avec un homme comme on couche avec une femme : ce serait une abomination » C’est clair, non ? « La Bible le dit. Un point c’est tout. », affirma-t-elle.
Quelques jours plus tard, un auditeur lui adressa une lettre ouverte qui disait :
« Merci de mettre autant de ferveur à éduquer les gens à la Loi de Dieu. J’apprends beaucoup à l’écoute de votre programme et j’essaie d’en faire profiter tout le monde. Mais j’aurais besoin de conseils quant à d’autres lois bibliques.
Par exemple, je souhaiterais vendre ma fille comme servante, tel que c’est indiqué dans le livre de l’Exode, chapitre 21, verset 7. A votre avis, quel serait le meilleur prix ?
Le Lévitique aussi, chapitre 25, verset 44, enseigne que je peux posséder des esclaves, hommes ou femmes, à condition qu’ils soient achetés dans des nations voisines. Un ami affirme que ceci est applicable aux mexicains, mais pas aux canadiens. Pourriez-vous m’éclairer sur ce point ? Pourquoi est-ce que je ne peux pas posséder des esclaves canadiens ?
Je sais que je ne suis autorisé à toucher aucune femme durant sa période menstruelle, comme l’ordonne le Lévitique, chapitre 18, verset 19. Comment puis-je savoir si elles le sont ou non ? J’ai essayé de le leur demander, mais de nombreuses femmes sont réservées ou se sentent offensées.
J’ai un voisin qui tient à travailler le samedi. L’Exode, chapitre 35, verset 2, dit clairement qu’il doit être condamné à mort. Je suis obligé de le tuer moi-même ? Pourriez-vous me soulager de cette question gênante qu’une quelconque manière ?
Autre chose : le Lévitique, chapitre 21, verset 18, dit qu’on ne peut approcher de l’autel de Dieu si on a des problèmes de vue. J’ai besoin de lunettes pour lire. Mon acuité visuelle doit-elle être de 100% ? Serait-il possible de revoir cette exigence à la baisse ?
Un dernier conseil. Mon oncle ne respecte pas ce que dit le Lévitique, chapitre 19, verset 19, en plantant deux types de culture différente dans le même champ, de même que sa femme qui porte des vêtements faits de différents tissus, coton et polyester. De plus, il passe ses journées à médire et à blasphémer. Est-il nécessaire d’aller jusqu’au bout de la procédure embarrassante de réunir tous les habitants du village pour lapider mon oncle et ma tante, comme le prescrit le Lévitique, chapitre 24, verset 10 à 16 ? On ne pourrait pas plutôt les brûler vifs au cours d’une réunion familiale privée, comme ça se fait avec ceux qui dorment avec des parents proches, tel qu’il est indiqué dans le livre sacré, chapitre 20, verset 14 ?
Je me confie pleinement à votre aide. Merci de nous rappeler que la parole de Dieu est éternelle et immuable. Un point c’est tout. »
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A quick Google translation:
Recently a famous U.S. radio host pointed out that homosexuality is a perversion. "That's what the Bible says in the book of Leviticus, chapter 18, verse 22:" You not lie with a man as one lies with a woman: it is an abomination "It's clear, right? "The Bible says. Full stop. "She asserted.
A few days later, a listener sent him an open letter that said:
"Please put as much fervor to educate people in the law of God. I learn a lot listening to your program and I try to benefit everyone. But I need advice about other biblical laws.
For example, I would like to sell my daughter as a servant, as claimed in the book of Exodus, chapter 21, verse 7. In your opinion, what is the best price?
Also Leviticus, chapter 25, verse 44 teaches that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend says that this applies to Mexicans, but not to Canadians. Could you clarify this? Why is it that I can not own slaves in Canada?
I know I'm not allowed to touch any woman during her menstrual period, as ordered in Leviticus, chapter 18, verse 19. How do I know if they are or not? I tried to ask them, but many women are reserved or feel offended.
I have a neighbor who wants to work on Saturday. Exodus, chapter 35, verse 2 says clearly that he should be sentenced to death. I am obliged to kill myself? Can you relieve me of this troublesome question that any way?
Another thing: Leviticus, chapter 21, verse 18 says you can not approach the altar of God if I have vision problems. I need glasses to read. My eyesight must be 100%? Would it be possible to review this requirement down?
One last tip. My uncle does not respect what is said in Leviticus, chapter 19, verse 19 by planting two different types of crops in the same field, as well as his wife by wearing garments made of different fabrics, cotton and polyester. In addition, he spends his days gossiping and swearing. Is it necessary to go through the embarrassing process to gather all the villagers to stone my uncle and aunt, as prescribed in Leviticus, chapter 24, verse 10-16? You could not burn them alive rather in a private family meeting, as it is with those who sleep with close relatives, as indicated in the holy book, chapter 20, verse 14?
I rely completely on your help. Thank you for reminding us that the word of God is eternal and unchanging. Full stop. "