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Offline thowscream

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Oral and kissing with ts escort
« on: November 25, 2011, 02:21:38 pm »
Ok here's my situation. Its been 3 weeks since the event and I'm getting a bit anxious about whether I have potentially caught HIV. It was my first and only ever experience with a transgender woman and she was from Brazil.

I went to her place and started off with some passionate kissing involving tongues. I then gave her oral without her having a condom on. She then gave me oral without a condom. She asked to top me but I refused as Im not into that and then she asked me to top her. I put on a condom but never actually inserted as I couldn't get hard enough. We then went back to oral for a short while and she then started masturbating over me and ejaculated on my stomach. I then also ejaculated on my stomach. She gave me a wipe and i cleaned the area. That was the end of the experience.

I recently found out that HIV for transgender escorts is quite high, some suggest over 1 in 3. This makes me concerned about whether to get checked. I would appreciate any advice as to whether I should get checked and if so what kind of chances there are that I could have caught HIV if she was positive.

Many thanks for your time.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Oral and kissing with ts escort
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2011, 05:21:46 pm »
You never had an exposure.

Offline thowscream

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Re: Oral and kissing with ts escort
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2011, 07:57:52 pm »
So are you saying that I can totally forget about it then? Its been on my mind for the last 3 days and I cant stop thinking about it. I just want closure, do you definately think I dont even need to test for it?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Oral and kissing with ts escort
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2011, 08:03:00 pm »
Yes you can stop worrying and you dont need testing for HIV.

Offline Andy Velez

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Re: Oral and kissing with ts escort
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2011, 09:24:52 pm »
The only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. As long as you consistently use condoms for those activities you will be well protected.

As Rod has told you, you were not at risk and there is no need for testing.

Other STDs are much easier to acquire than HIV, so if you are sexually active it is a good idea to at least once a year have a full STD panel done.

But as far as HIV is concerned you have no cause for concern over this incident. Get on with your life.
Andy Velez

Offline thowscream

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Re: Oral and kissing with ts escort
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 06:56:56 pm »
I'm still concerned about this and the reason is because when I type on google, 'can i catch HIV from Oral' there are loads of websites and information that say that I can and some websites give evidence to this and examples. Its basically you word against theres. I still have to wait two months to have a check because that is what my local clinic have told me.

My biggest concern is that although you are so sure thats its no risk, there are so many official websites that have in its headling. 'hiv can be caught from oral, vaginal and anal sex etc.' Why would they say this if there were no reported cases at all to back up this evidence.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Oral and kissing with ts escort
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 06:59:38 pm »
I'm still concerned about this and the reason is because when I type on google, 'can i catch HIV from Oral' there are loads of websites and information that say that I can and some websites give evidence to this and examples. Its basically you word against theres. I still have to wait two months to have a check because that is what my local clinic have told me.

My biggest concern is that although you are so sure thats its no risk, there are so many official websites that have in its headling. 'hiv can be caught from oral, vaginal and anal sex etc.' Why would they say this if there were no reported cases at all to back up this evidence.

Reported is not the same as verified documented cases which there are none.

No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.






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Re: Oral and kissing with ts escort
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 08:03:03 am »
Nothing you are reporting put you at risk. Sexually risk is about not whom you are with but what you do with the other person. And you didn't do anything risky.

If you continue to surf the web I can guarantee you will continue to come up with more fodder to feed your worst fears. All to no good purpose of course.

For your peace of mind you can waste money and resources and get tested just to receive the inevitable negative result. That's up to you.

There's really nothing more we can say to you about your situation. HIV is not your problem.
Andy Velez

 


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