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Offline next2u

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ashamed to ask...selfing...
« on: December 08, 2009, 12:25:15 pm »
okay, so in the last 2 weeks i have come across 2 videos of different people doing themselves. and by doing themselves i mean putting their penis into their asshole. repeatedly, for extended periods of time and undeniably hard...rock hard. as if to say, look what i can do and u cant...lucky bastards.

if you could, would you? also, if ur straight, would u still be (i would say yes...but ur still taking a cock up the ass).

and yes, it completely turns me on. i feel dirty for admitting it.

best,
d
midapr07 - seroconversion
sept07 - tested poz
oct07 cd4 1013; vl 13,900; cd4% 41
feb08 cd4  694;  vl 16,160; cd4% 50.1
may08 cd4 546; vl 91,480; cd4% 32
aug08 cd4 576; vl 48,190; cd4% 40.7
dec08 cd4 559; vl 63,020; cd4% 29.4
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oct09 cd4 ...; vl 23,350; cd4% 31.6
mar10 cd4 408; vl 59,050; cd4% 31.4
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jan14 cd4 813; vl ud; cd4% 42.8
may14 cd4 783; vl *; cd4%43.5
sept14 cd4 990; vl ud; cd4% *
jun15 cd4 1152; vl ud; cd4% *
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mar16 cd4 860; vl 20; 44

Offline WillyWump

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 02:12:09 pm »
uhhhh, WAHAT???

Ive never heard of this, Didn't think it was possible! Wouldn't you have to bend it unnaturally, which would hurt, and would also conceivably cut off blood flow to the penis causing you to become limp???

 hmmmm....
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 02:14:19 pm by WillyWump »
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Offline bear60

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 02:22:27 pm »
Well....whats to be ashamed of?
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 03:03:27 pm »
uhhhh, WAHAT???

Ive never heard of this, Didn't think it was possible! Wouldn't you have to bend it unnaturally, which would hurt, and would also conceivably cut off blood flow to the penis causing you to become limp???

 hmmmm....

First of all, you need a large cock and it's semi-flaccid. They probably inject it a bit with silicone too.
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 03:07:13 pm »
I had no idea that when people say "Go f*** yourself" they mean it literally. Thanks for painting the picture.

Offline next2u

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 04:15:49 pm »
well, i've never done it but have tried...
they look to be somewhat erect, but lord only knows. you know, i thought it was all for show until the dudes started exhibiting enthusiasm. and started pushing it in faster and stuff. so, im gonna go out on a limb and assume it doesnt hurt. i havent found a clip of someone orgasming from this. but if yall know of one feel free to pm me.

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aug08 cd4 576; vl 48,190; cd4% 40.7
dec08 cd4 559; vl 63,020; cd4% 29.4
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may09 cd4 544; vl 29,710; cd4% 27.2
oct09 cd4 ...; vl 23,350; cd4% 31.6
mar10 cd4 408; vl 59,050; cd4% 31.4
aug10 cd4 328; vl 80,000; cd4% 19.3 STARTED ATRIPLA
oct10 cd4 423; vl 410 ;); cd4% 30.2
jun11 cd4 439; vl <20 ;); cd4% 33.8 <-Undetectable!
mar12 cd4 695; vl ud; cd4% 38.6
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sept14 cd4 990; vl ud; cd4% *
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 05:10:20 pm »
I guess I'm not spending enough time on Porn sites :-[
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Offline denb45

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 05:41:28 pm »
well, i've never done it but have tried...
they look to be somewhat erect, but lord only knows. you know, i thought it was all for show until the dudes started exhibiting enthusiasm. and started pushing it in faster and stuff. so, im gonna go out on a limb and assume it doesnt hurt. i havent found a clip of someone orgasming from this. but if yall know of one feel free to pm me.



I have seen someone orgasm that way before, and also I'm with Joel...........what is there to be ashamed about here, I don't see any reason why you, are any one of us here should be ashamed of it.....just saying  ;)
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Offline BT65

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 06:53:03 pm »
I guess I'm not spending enough time on Porn sites :-[

Me either, Willy, me either.  The things I'm missing out on.
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Offline emeraldize

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 10:47:13 pm »
I had no idea that when people say "Go f*** yourself" they mean it literally. Thanks for painting the picture.

This is what I love best about the English language. There's so much lore we recite like you're full of shit and go fuck yourself and we don't even know we're echoing our ancestors' tales. Surely, someone did fuck himself (we know it was not a herself) once upon a century, lived to tell about it, and the story was so popular (and the act itself for those fortunate enough to do themselves) that it lives on in the phrase we, for some reason, never mean kindly when we scream it at someone in traffic. Perhaps we should now rethink wishing that much fun on someone we're intending to diss.

If you really like someone in 2010 -- put on a big smile and say warmly " Hey, go fuck yourself. Oh and Happy New Year to you and the family!"  And there's nothing to be ashamed of, I think all of us have done ourselves the best we can at one time or another or fifteen minutes ago and if someone's got a big 'ole advantage, well, I say...Hey, Lucky You, Go FUCK yourself and don't brag about it, okay? It'll just make all of us feel bad over the holidays. That shared, may I direct you to the Holiday Gallows humor thread? Couple of good laughs over there if you are in the Unable to Fuck Myself Club or the Unable to Fuck Myself with Myself Club to be more accurate.



« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 10:55:53 pm by emeraldize »

Offline next2u

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 12:39:25 am »
oh em, you are too funny. why don't you go fuck yourself love. hehehe

best,
d
midapr07 - seroconversion
sept07 - tested poz
oct07 cd4 1013; vl 13,900; cd4% 41
feb08 cd4  694;  vl 16,160; cd4% 50.1
may08 cd4 546; vl 91,480; cd4% 32
aug08 cd4 576; vl 48,190; cd4% 40.7
dec08 cd4 559; vl 63,020; cd4% 29.4
feb09 cd4 464; vl 11,000; cd4% 26
may09 cd4 544; vl 29,710; cd4% 27.2
oct09 cd4 ...; vl 23,350; cd4% 31.6
mar10 cd4 408; vl 59,050; cd4% 31.4
aug10 cd4 328; vl 80,000; cd4% 19.3 STARTED ATRIPLA
oct10 cd4 423; vl 410 ;); cd4% 30.2
jun11 cd4 439; vl <20 ;); cd4% 33.8 <-Undetectable!
mar12 cd4 695; vl ud; cd4% 38.6
jan13 cd4 738; vl ud; cd4% 36.8
aug13 cd4 930; vl ud; cd4% 44.3
jan14 cd4 813; vl ud; cd4% 42.8
may14 cd4 783; vl *; cd4%43.5
sept14 cd4 990; vl ud; cd4% *
jun15 cd4 1152; vl ud; cd4% *
july15 - STRIBILD
oct15 cd4 583; vl 146; cd4% 42
mar16 cd4 860; vl 20; 44

Offline emeraldize

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 12:47:20 am »
well, that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day, hey, let's make that all week! you're the best, d!

(ya got me, I'm gigglin' here!)

Offline next2u

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 01:04:17 am »
hey em,

can't u tell me to go fuck myself? (it's too late, but thats not the point). hehehe, have a good one.

best,
d
midapr07 - seroconversion
sept07 - tested poz
oct07 cd4 1013; vl 13,900; cd4% 41
feb08 cd4  694;  vl 16,160; cd4% 50.1
may08 cd4 546; vl 91,480; cd4% 32
aug08 cd4 576; vl 48,190; cd4% 40.7
dec08 cd4 559; vl 63,020; cd4% 29.4
feb09 cd4 464; vl 11,000; cd4% 26
may09 cd4 544; vl 29,710; cd4% 27.2
oct09 cd4 ...; vl 23,350; cd4% 31.6
mar10 cd4 408; vl 59,050; cd4% 31.4
aug10 cd4 328; vl 80,000; cd4% 19.3 STARTED ATRIPLA
oct10 cd4 423; vl 410 ;); cd4% 30.2
jun11 cd4 439; vl <20 ;); cd4% 33.8 <-Undetectable!
mar12 cd4 695; vl ud; cd4% 38.6
jan13 cd4 738; vl ud; cd4% 36.8
aug13 cd4 930; vl ud; cd4% 44.3
jan14 cd4 813; vl ud; cd4% 42.8
may14 cd4 783; vl *; cd4%43.5
sept14 cd4 990; vl ud; cd4% *
jun15 cd4 1152; vl ud; cd4% *
july15 - STRIBILD
oct15 cd4 583; vl 146; cd4% 42
mar16 cd4 860; vl 20; 44

Offline skeebo1969

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 06:19:32 am »


   I thought maybe you were being selfish or something when I read the subject line.......  I guess technically you were.
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Offline emeraldize

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2009, 06:28:56 am »
oh my goodness, d,
where ARE my manners? 
please, in the spirit of the season,
deck the halls with boughs of holly,
undon your gay apparel and then,
go fa-la-la-la-fuck yourself. 

Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2009, 01:10:38 pm »
You two are too much!  Between this and Rondrond's hallelujah chorus I've been laughing all morning.
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Offline WildcatCC

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2009, 01:43:37 pm »
..more importantly, if you are HIV+, are you obligated to tell yourself prior to insertion?  ::)
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June 08 cd4 250, vl 1600
Aug  08 cd4 275, vl 450
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Nov  08  cd4  386, vl 255
Jan   09  cd4  415, vl 2100 (spike?)
Feb   09  cd4 460, vl 212
May   09  cd4 515, vl 1200
Aug   09  cd4 717, vl 1535 % 23
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Offline mecch

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2009, 03:01:59 pm »
I had a bf who could do this. You need to have a shower, (not a grower.. or a shower that is ALSO a grower).  You also need to have the butt hole that isn't so deep between the cheeks.  He could do it and we could do a double pene. It was silly novelty act stuff. 
If you are a fetishist, there is no limit to the weird stuff you can do with your own body or put in your body or put in other peoples bodies. 
You've seen the head in the vagina video, I assume. The self fisting. The self double fisting. etc etc etc.
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Offline emeraldize

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2009, 03:11:54 pm »
Isn't this all about the season? Stuffin' stockin's, stuffin' yerself, stuffin' yer friends, stuffin' the turkey and stuffin' yerself again. Well, hey, who said ye cain't have seconds? This just warms my heart all this e-titillation and e-lation and education. Okay, okay. So come clean with me. In the aforeskin-mentioned post, what is a shower other than the kind I take before work? What's a grower? I need gay men to help me get to a graduate level of understanding what's out there in the solar system of sex.

Offline mecch

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2009, 03:21:16 pm »
are yo serious man?
A "shower" is a dick that is always pretty big - shows big and long when flacid.
A "grower" is a dick that starts small and improves impressively in size.
Some showers are also growers - thats were we get into the upper limits of really hung.
Some showers are not growers.  The expert gay teenage guy learns to spot the guys who have those which are almost fully hard, and point down, so showy "downies" - so they walk around shower rooms with impressive swaying meat, without being embarrased about popping a boner, but that's all you're ever gonna get, cause its already on full display.
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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2009, 04:55:30 pm »


    Holy crap I never knew having a dick could be so technical.
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Offline emeraldize

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2009, 05:22:27 pm »
are yo serious man?
A "shower" is a dick that is always pretty big - shows big and long when flacid.
A "grower" is a dick that starts small and improves impressively in size.
Some showers are also growers - thats were we get into the upper limits of really hung.
Some showers are not growers.  The expert gay teenage guy learns to spot the guys who have those which are almost fully hard, and point down, so showy "downies" - so they walk around shower rooms with impressive swaying meat, without being embarrased about popping a boner, but that's all you're ever gonna get, cause its already on full display.
Hell yeah, I'm serious. Cuz I'm a gurl! But, now I'm a smart gurl and apparently Skeebo is learning right along with us. Liberal honest dude that he is.

Offline denb45

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2009, 05:25:52 pm »

    Holy crap I never knew having a dick could be so technical.

Go's with the territory my man , being a man and having a dick that is ;D
« Last Edit: December 09, 2009, 05:27:37 pm by denb45 »
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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2009, 05:43:42 pm »
lol...I learnt so much from this thread!
Happy hols...and go fuck yourselves! :-* :-*K.
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Offline Andy Velez

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2009, 08:47:22 pm »
Great to see so much holiday spirit here. It is, it is!

Big smile.
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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2009, 09:02:21 pm »
You've seen the head in the vagina video, I assume.


I have now!    :o
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Offline GNYC09

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2009, 09:18:51 pm »
After this conversation, I'd like to join the Women's forum please...
(just kidding  ;D )

Offline fearless

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2009, 09:28:11 pm »
This is what I love best about the English language. There's so much lore we recite like you're full of shit and go fuck yourself and we don't even know we're echoing our ancestors' tales. Surely, someone did fuck himself (we know it was not a herself) once upon a century, lived to tell about it, and the story was so popular (and the act itself for those fortunate enough to do themselves) that it lives on in the phrase we, for some reason, never mean kindly when we scream it at someone in traffic. Perhaps we should now rethink wishing that much fun on someone we're intending to diss.

If you really like someone in 2010 -- put on a big smile and say warmly " Hey, go fuck yourself. Oh and Happy New Year to you and the family!"  And there's nothing to be ashamed of, I think all of us have done ourselves the best we can at one time or another or fifteen minutes ago and if someone's got a big 'ole advantage, well, I say...Hey, Lucky You, Go FUCK yourself and don't brag about it, okay? It'll just make all of us feel bad over the holidays. That shared, may I direct you to the Holiday Gallows humor thread? Couple of good laughs over there if you are in the Unable to Fuck Myself Club or the Unable to Fuck Myself with Myself Club to be more accurate.


I'm guessing though that if someone said, "You're full of shit, go fuck yourself," that this wouldn't be a compliment
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Offline Basquo

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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2009, 10:51:53 pm »
I'm guessing though that if someone said, "You're full of shit, go fuck yourself," that this wouldn't be a compliment

True, but can you imagine their face if you smiled angelically and said, "I AM, I CAN and I SHALL!"

though personally I would cleanse thoroughly before proving my point...

Offline next2u

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« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2009, 11:43:45 pm »
well, if one likes to shizer...hehehe, then i guess it would be okay.

no, i have not seen nor heard of the head in the vagina video. what is this all about. (quickly jumps on google)

OMG!!! I so don't believe that is real. shocking, yes. real, no. (shivers)....talk about smelling it all day...
midapr07 - seroconversion
sept07 - tested poz
oct07 cd4 1013; vl 13,900; cd4% 41
feb08 cd4  694;  vl 16,160; cd4% 50.1
may08 cd4 546; vl 91,480; cd4% 32
aug08 cd4 576; vl 48,190; cd4% 40.7
dec08 cd4 559; vl 63,020; cd4% 29.4
feb09 cd4 464; vl 11,000; cd4% 26
may09 cd4 544; vl 29,710; cd4% 27.2
oct09 cd4 ...; vl 23,350; cd4% 31.6
mar10 cd4 408; vl 59,050; cd4% 31.4
aug10 cd4 328; vl 80,000; cd4% 19.3 STARTED ATRIPLA
oct10 cd4 423; vl 410 ;); cd4% 30.2
jun11 cd4 439; vl <20 ;); cd4% 33.8 <-Undetectable!
mar12 cd4 695; vl ud; cd4% 38.6
jan13 cd4 738; vl ud; cd4% 36.8
aug13 cd4 930; vl ud; cd4% 44.3
jan14 cd4 813; vl ud; cd4% 42.8
may14 cd4 783; vl *; cd4%43.5
sept14 cd4 990; vl ud; cd4% *
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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2009, 07:30:08 am »
I'm guessing though that if someone said, "You're full of shit, go fuck yourself," that this wouldn't be a compliment

You're right, Fearless. It's the 'you're full of shit' part that pushes it over the cliff of kindness. Although, there may be a culture, a subset, well, as d pointed out a Shizer clan that might view this as being akin to you're so full of hope, or merriment--how in tune with the holiday season.



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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2009, 12:34:25 pm »
Hell yeah, I'm serious. Cuz I'm a gurl! But, now I'm a smart gurl and apparently Skeebo is learning right along with us. Liberal honest dude that he is.


I cannot believe all the technical details!!!. Thank you for sharing!!!! (BTW I am gay, but I guess you already knew that :))

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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2009, 02:19:20 pm »
I've seen a number of gay porn videos where it's been done. Most of them are from the 70's. If I remember right Rick Donovan did himself in a few of his movies.
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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2009, 09:09:25 pm »
now I am out on a quest to find these videos.  Not sure I can do it though, big nuts and a huge penis is such a curse sometimes

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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2009, 09:16:39 pm »
looking up rick donovan...
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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2009, 11:21:30 am »
Damn-it all Next, if you don't send me some links via PM, well, you can.... you can... go fuck yourself!!!
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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2009, 11:29:05 am »
Damn-it all Next, if you don't send me some links via PM, well, you can.... you can... go fuck yourself!!!

www.xtube.com, baby!   ;)
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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2009, 11:58:55 am »
Hey Next, I don't know why this is such an anomaly, since I discovered this very soothing and pleasurable trick about 30 years ago, and still find it very gratifying.   :) 

Sebastian, large balls and penis are NOT a handicap in this little game.
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Re: ashamed to ask...selfing...
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2009, 12:18:08 pm »
... may be time for a new avvy!



btw, he now looks like this:

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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2009, 12:18:25 pm »
[quote Moffie] Hey Next, I don't know why this is such an anomaly, since I discovered this very soothing and pleasurable trick about 30 years ago, and still find it very gratifying.  
Sebastian, large balls and penis are NOT a handicap in this little game.  [quote Moffie]




Moffie, WOOF! you are a very interesting man, I wish I'd would have met you yrs ago, it could have been a lotta fun  ;D
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« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2009, 08:31:28 pm »
Nice to see Rick looks like hes doing well enough. Last time I saw him was in the 80s when he was Kenneth Anger's date to some awful gay do. 
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« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2009, 09:40:39 am »

btw, he now looks like this:


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« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2009, 10:27:02 am »
When I was a bartender in California Rick was one of my customers . Nice guy if you ask me .
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« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2009, 01:49:19 pm »
 I could never bend my dick so far down, so  I do would be happy to be able to suck, but I just cant reach. Once I managed a lick...
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« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2009, 03:00:02 pm »
 
You've seen the head in the vagina video, I assume. The self fisting. The self double fisting. etc etc etc.


I have not seen the "head in the vagina" video.  I will have to google that.  The only thing I've seen that's anywhere near being close to that is a video of a woman forcing a football out of her vagina.  I did not have the pleasure of seeing it actually be put in.  She also peed a little too as the thing came out, which would make since, I suppose, as I'm sure a football shoved into your twat would probably put pressure on the bladder.  But, women give birth to babies bigger than that, so I don't think jamming a football or head or a donkey dick up there is some sort of scientific anomaly.

What I don't understand, though, is how one would be able to bend a hard cock backwards to the point where they were able to shove it up their asshole.  I would think that would cause a severe penile fracture.  Perhaps a person could learn to "dislocate" their penis the same way contortionists dislocate their joints when doing all that bending around shit.  I really have no idea.  But then again I am a woman after all, so my knowledge is only limited to blowjobs & what various objects can fit inside the vagina & whatnot.  I don't recall ever having a sexual experience that involved a man literally fucking himself.  But I did do a lot drugs when I was younger, so who knows?

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« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2009, 03:54:24 pm »
Being the sometimes class clown and among the remedial learners in the shower/grower group...here's what wicked-peepee-ya says about penile fracture...And, Carly, it sure seems a likely environ for such an injury. No matter what drugs you did, I think you would always recall such an image were you a witness to it, or a stagehand in the act.

Presentation
A popping or cracking sound, significant pain, immediate flaccidity, and skin hematoma of various sizes are commonly associated with the event. These symptoms are similar to a common bruising or contusion of the penis.

Treatment and prognosis
Penile fracture is a medical emergency, and emergency surgical repair is the usual treatment. Delay in seeking treatment increases the complication rate. Non-surgical approaches result in 10%-50% complication rates including erectile dysfunction, permanent penile curvature, damage to the urethra and pain during sexual intercourse.

Causes
In the western world the most common cause, accounting for about 30%-50% of cases, is intercourse. Of those, woman-on-top positions resulting in impact against the female pelvis or perineum and bending laterally are most common.

The practice of taqaandan also puts men at risk of penile fracture. Taqaandan, which comes from a Kurdish word meaning "to click," involves bending the top part of the erect penis while holding the lower part of the shaft in place, until a click is heard and felt. Taqaandan is said to be painless and has been compared to cracking one's knuckles, but the practice of taqaandan has led to an increase in the prevalence of penile fractures in western Iran. [2] Taqaandan may be performed to achieve detumescence. [3]

Legal issues
For legal context, see Doe v. Moe, 63 Mass. App. Ct. 516, 827 N.E.2d 240 (2005), where the court declined to find duty as between two consensual adults. The plaintiff in this case, a man who suffered a fractured penis, complained that the defendant, his ex-girlfriend, had caused his injury while she was on top of him during sexual intercourse. The court ruled in her favor, determining that her conduct was neither wanton nor reckless.

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« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2009, 04:49:43 pm »
Still going strong after thirty years, and no fractures just yet.  :)

Denb 45, we might have met years ago, who knows?  Anyway, I had far more energy back then and was subsequently more fun.  :)  I miss the all nighters in the various dungeons my friends had built, but age and HIV have certainlky taken their toll on the body.  :(
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« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2009, 05:13:59 pm »
Being the sometimes class clown and among the remedial learners in the shower/grower group...here's what wicked-peepee-ya says about penile fracture...And, Carly, it sure seems a likely environ for such an injury. No matter what drugs you did, I think you would always recall such an image were you a witness to it, or a stagehand in the act.

Well, I was having sex with this guy in the second or third backseat of a Wagoneer once.  I was drunk as hell, & I can only remember puking & then having sex, which is the most romantic thing ever, btw.  Anyway, I was on top, & he claimed afterwards that my aggressive thrusting "sprung" his dick.  Now, I don't recall hearing any sort of "popping" noises & he didn't seem to be in too much pain afterwards.  Also it was dark & there were several other people in the vehicle so it was difficult to notice anyway.  And I was really drunk.  Did I mention that?  Anyway, this was years ago before I got clean & sober & my recollection of those times isn't the best anyway.  In short, that is the only scenario in my life where I was ever exposed to anything close to a penis fracture.  Well, then again, there was that time in college when I watched these two young guys happily taking turns sucking each other off in what was quite possibly the most enthusiastic display of oral sex that I have ever witnessed (outside of porn) & they did appear to be maneuvering the penis around in ways that I never thought possible, so I suppose their was the potential for a penis fracture in that situation too. But they finally stopped after a while & played cards with us like nothing had ever happened.  So probably no real fracture there either.

Presentation
A popping or cracking sound, significant pain, immediate flaccidity, and skin hematoma of various sizes are commonly associated with the event. These symptoms are similar to a common bruising or contusion of the penis.

Treatment and prognosis
Penile fracture is a medical emergency, and emergency surgical repair is the usual treatment. Delay in seeking treatment increases the complication rate. Non-surgical approaches result in 10%-50% complication rates including erectile dysfunction, permanent penile curvature, damage to the urethra and pain during sexual intercourse.

Jesus fucking Christ.  I don't even have a penis & just reading this is causing me pain. 

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« Reply #48 on: December 15, 2009, 05:14:55 pm »
Still going strong after thirty years, and no fractures just yet.  :)


So... are you completely hard when you do that?  You don't have to anwser that if you don't want to.  But I can't help but be curious.

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« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2009, 06:48:31 pm »
Well, I was having sex with this guy in the second or third backseat of a Wagoneer once.  I was drunk as hell, & I can only remember puking & then having sex, which is the most romantic thing ever, btw.  Anyway, I was on top, & he claimed afterwards that my aggressive thrusting "sprung" his dick.  Now, I don't recall hearing any sort of "popping" noises & he didn't seem to be in too much pain afterwards.  Also it was dark & there were several other people in the vehicle so it was difficult to notice anyway.  And I was really drunk.  Did I mention that?  Anyway, this was years ago before I got clean & sober & my recollection of those times isn't the best anyway.  In short, that is the only scenario in my life where I was ever exposed to anything close to a penis fracture.  Well, then again, there was that time in college when I watched these two young guys happily taking turns sucking each other off in what was quite possibly the most enthusiastic display of oral sex that I have ever witnessed (outside of porn) & they did appear to be maneuvering the penis around in ways that I never thought possible, so I suppose their was the potential for a penis fracture in that situation too. But they finally stopped after a while & played cards with us like nothing had ever happened.  So probably no real fracture there either.

Jesus fucking Christ.  I don't even have a penis & just reading this is causing me pain. 

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