am I at risk for HIV infection?

[clarkg]

OK long story short I was having (protected) insertive sex with my partner today and I was lying on top of him and some of his pre-ejaculate got onto my mid torso where I had some dermatitis on there.  The dermatitis was not open or bleeding but it was this type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seborrhoeic_dermatitis

My partner was exposed to HIV a long time ago, shows up as neg on tests but still takes meds just in case and I assume they are HIV+, I took a shower after we were done.

Am I at risk for HIV infection? Or not because the dermatitis was not bleeding?

The dry skin on my mid torso did not look like it does at the wikipedia link but it was on my skin and mostly healed but dry/flaky.

[RapidRod]

You never had an exposure.

HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users
Mother to child

[clarkg]

Thanks for the reply.  So I am not at risk even though it was pre-ejaculate?

What about giving oral sex if you don't swallow semen or take it into your mouth?

[jkinatl2]

I am sorry if we were not clear.

You really did not have a risk at all here.

Saliva contains over a dozen identified elements that inhibit HIV and render it incapable of infecting. Also, the specific cels that HIV needs to "latch onto" in order to transmit it's RNA are not found in any abundance in the mouth.

There have been no fewer than three serodiscordant couple studies regarding oral sex. One lasted ten years, one five, and the other slightly less than three. The wouples engaged in protected anal and vaginal sex, but used NO barrier protection for any form of oral sex. There was a wide representation of viral loads and medical treatment in these studies.

The result? Zero infections traced to oral sex.

Our philosophy here at AIDSMEDS is that unless your oral cavity is so compromised that you can no longer produce saliva AND have gaping wounds in your mouth (google "meth mouth" for an example) AND your partner is undiagnosed/newly infected with a soaring viral load, then there's really no way you are going to manage to get infected through this, the most common of sexual acts.

Also, you will note that in these forums we have yet to encounter a FEMALE who claims to have been infected through oral sex. Sorta telling, that.


Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST FOR HIV OVER THIS SPECIFIC INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

[clarkg]

OK thanks for the reply.

In the first post I was asking about precum to possibly broken skin contact.

I didn't give my partner oral sex today; but in the 2nd post I was just wondering about the risk of giving oral sex in general if your partner is HIV+ or assumed to be HIV+, without swallowing semen.

[Andy Velez]

Clark, there have been several longterm studies held for sero-discordant partners, both gay and straight. They had all kinds of unprotected oral sex and only protected vaginal and anal intercourse. The results were that not a single sero-negative partner became infected.

You are worrying needlessly about the details of your oral sex.