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Author Topic: Do I need to start PEP  (Read 574 times)

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Do I need to start PEP
« on: October 30, 2021, 12:53:52 am »
I hired a TS for a sexual pleasure. It started with unprotected hand job. Then I requested handjob with a condom just to be safe. She apply the condom wrongly af 1st.. Then she removes it completely and apply the same condom again correctly. When I almost want to ejaculate, I had anal sex for less than 10sec, couple of swings and I finished.

When I pull out the condom looks intact. Now I'm worried of HIV and other possible STD. Should I start taking PEP?

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Re: Do I need to start PEP
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2021, 01:01:02 am »
Hiya,

What you posted isn't an HIV risk.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get tested regularly and at least yearly for STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and, the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Do I need to start PEP
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2021, 01:05:28 am »
Thanks Jim for the reassurance. Any chance of me getting HIV from cheap or expired condoms? Possible for me to get infected with other STDs with above encounter. I'm just paranoid and would like to clear my mind. Do you think taking PEP for this encounter is overkill?

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Re: Do I need to start PEP
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2021, 01:15:07 am »
Relax, it was short intercourse and the condom did not break.

HIV can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom. If a condom fails during the act of intercourse it's obvious. So there is no reason to be testing for HIV outside of routine as long as this obvious issue did not happen.

As for other STI's, with any sexual contact, there is always a potential risk for other STI's. It all depends significantly on differences in how the diseases or infections are transmitted.

For example, some infections (Not HIV) are acquired primarily by skin-to-skin contact or due to viral shredding ect which can be acquired in areas not covered by a condom, such as genital herpes, human papillomavirus [HPV], etc.

No need to panic or test every time you have sex, just use condoms for any intercourse, no exceptions and test out of routine yearly for STI's.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2021, 01:18:11 am by Jim Allen »
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Re: Do I need to start PEP
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2021, 06:10:10 am »
Jim, I had anxiety attack just now. I pay a visit to doctor and explain to him my encounter. He advise me the same, that I do not have any exposure and PEP is not recommended. However, for peace of mind he advise me to take 4th gen rapid test at the 28th day.

What is you opinion on 4th gen rapid test at 28th day? Sorry, I think my anxiety is taking over my sanity. Not sure how to cope this anxiety.

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Re: Do I need to start PEP
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2021, 07:09:11 am »
I would recommend you consider talking to a therapist regarding your anxiety.

This post is just irrational fears "what ifs" after the sex. This could be just general anxiety, who knows. Prehaps it's something else and triggered by some underlying guilt or shame, maybe even some biased attitude about transgender people or moral judgment of people living with HIV and that's somehow translating into these irrational fears ... who knows, consider getting support.

I don't recommend testing out of routine for no reason, it's a waste, resolves nothing, could trigger the start of the merry-go-round of pointless testing or continue testing in the future over nothing.

Anyhow, if you must test, well unless you had an exposure not mentioned here, you could do it today as you had no exposure from what you posted, no need to wait.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2021, 07:20:33 am by Jim Allen »
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Re: Do I need to start PEP
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2021, 09:02:56 am »
Sorry Jim. Anxiety is really bad. Visited ER and get connected to Therapist. The discussion were comforting. PEP is still not recommended as the exposure is considered very low risk. What I don't understand during the session, I've been told that condom is 94% - 99% effective against HIV. Chances to get infected only if the condom obviously failed or due to microtear.

Based on your experience, can you advise what are the chances condom gets microtear. In my situation the condom was 1st applied wrongly, then was completely removed and the same condom was applied again correctly. Handjob given using the same condom and anal sex less around 10 seconds with the same condom.

I did not check whether the condom had any microtear. However I'm very sure the condom is still intact when I pull out and I can see semen on the front part of the condom.

Any risk?

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Re: Do I need to start PEP
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2021, 11:07:45 am »
Both your doctor and I, have explained that you had no HIV exposure and I've explained the condom situation to you. Years of scientific studies specifically to put this question to rest and a micro-tear is not an issue and nothing you now added is either relevant to your situation or changes the assessment provided.

I wish you well and hope the therapy can help you with your anxiety. Please don't post about this encounter again as it will be considered excessive and lead to a 28-day ban from the forum.

Best, Jim.

European Research provides clear proof that HIV cannot pass through condoms
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/MEMO_06_428

Studies concluded that the male condom was an effective way of preventing the transmission of HIV, with an efficacy close to 100% when the condom is used appropriately.

The United Nations Population Fund, the World Health Organization, and the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS released an updated statement in 2009:

Laboratory studies show that male latex condoms are impermeable to infectious agents contained in genital secretions.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2021, 12:14:52 am by Jim Allen »
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