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OK, had another conversation with straight friends today about whether I'm the man or the woman in a relationship. I adore these people and I'm glad they finally feel comfortable enough to ask me specifics, but this gets tiring. They are friends with "gays" from their places of employment. They thought I'd really like to meet one of their "friends". The first thing Donny says to me is; "he's an attorney and comes from money". That doesn't impress me much. I mean come on, tell me about him and I might consider. Then Carly tells me he's a bit of a flamer who always demands his way. OK, I'm really interested.....not
Then the conversation moved to which role I play in a relationship. I partially made them see the flaws in their beliefs. I thought we progressed past that. I want an equal man, someone who compliments, not detracts. I want an equal, not someone who fits a role.
Straight people, please don't try too hard to fix me up with your lonely, successful, and rich friends. They're single and unattached for a reason. :o
That last nightcap kicked in. Goodnight all....wishing everyone positive mental health.
wolfie
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The first thing Donny says to me is; "he's an attorney and comes from money". That doesn't impress me much.
That don't impress me much either (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLXayD6e8). Shania said it best. (she's hot; wonder what ever happened to her?)
I've caught straight mates of mine having that kind of conversation about lesbian couples as well. It's annoying, I agree. You should hear the scathing remarks my favourite bartender comes out with when someone asks him if he's the man or the woman in a relationship. I wish I could remember some of them verbatim, they're hilarious and make the point very well.
I suppose it might be worth pointing out that this sort of straight confusion is a throwback to the days when gay or lesbian couples used to use straight couple stereotypes as a means of flying under the radar. If one could pass for a man (in a lesbian couple) or a woman (in a gay couple) out in public, they could pass as a straight couple and not draw negative attention to themselves. If I recall correctly from my reading of GLBT history, lesbians were historically a bit more successful in this type of endeavour.
As for people trying to fix you up with their mates, you got it exactly right - they're single for a reason. Annoying as hell.
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Thanks Ann. Kinda been thinking about this quite often today. It almost equates within our own culture. Top v's bottom kinda thingy. Maybe my friends think the pokee is always the "girl" and they are basically asking which way I like it? I'd never last with a man who always wanted it one way or the other.
Perhaps I should let this guy take me out on an expensive date, explaining that I like playing the "girl" role. And if he's butt assed ugly, a girl doesn't have to put out. :o
Wolfie
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Wolfie !
I am looking for a POKETTE :o
Sort of a POKEE :-*
Please reply with a picture of yew :)
Contact will take place after a Goy / Birl check :-X
Love Weasel ;)
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Wolfie , I used to tell co-workers that ask me that question, and I would always tell them, I'm a gay man
and there is NO man or woman in my relationship, were both gay men, and then, they would just scratch their heads and walk away in confusion ;D ;D ;D
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The few times I had to hire workers for things I couldn't do, after a few days they would figure out that we were a gay couple. Eventually they all asked, "Who does the cooking?" We knew exactly what they were thinking, in their minds whomever does the cooking is the woman. You could see the wheels turn in their heads when we told them we took turns......
Have fun with stupid questions.
Cheers,
Hoover and ...
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OK, had another conversation with straight friends today about whether I'm the man or the woman in a relationship. I adore these people and I'm glad they finally feel comfortable enough to ask me specifics, but this gets tiring. They are friends with "gays" from their places of employment. They thought I'd really like to meet one of their "friends". The first thing Donny says to me is; "he's an attorney and comes from money". That doesn't impress me much. I mean come on, tell me about him and I might consider. Then Carly tells me he's a bit of a flamer who always demands his way. OK, I'm really interested.....not
Then the conversation moved to which role I play in a relationship. I partially made them see the flaws in their beliefs. I thought we progressed past that. I want an equal man, someone who compliments, not detracts. I want an equal, not someone who fits a role.
Straight people, please don't try too hard to fix me up with your lonely, successful, and rich friends. They're single and unattached for a reason. :o
That last nightcap kicked in. Goodnight all....wishing everyone positive mental health.
wolfie
Thats what you want fine.
However, consider this. Sounds like you pre-judge people as much as they do, if you look at your post in a different light. Personally I don't have many "deal breakers" but seems like you have a few!!
You were getting this information 2nd hand, about the guy, from square straight friends to boot. While being an attorney may NOT impress you, what would be the problem meeting an attorney? Same thing for a "flamer". That's what straights said about him. Maybe they say you are a flamer too. Or something equally dumb. Ok maybe he is a "flamer". Never dated a flamer? Why not? Just not your style?
"Straight people, please don't try too hard to fix me up with your lonely, successful, and rich friends. They're single and unattached for a reason. :o"
Im just playing devils advocate, but really, the last sentence?? Its pretty harsh on someone you don't even know. Are you single and unattached? But your "reason" is OK and the ones you assume for this guys are objectionable?
Just saying, I wouldn't mind some of my friends trying to fix me up. Yeah sometimes you just "know" its not a match, but there are plenty of surprises so it often pays to give it a go, at least when someone shows interest. I ended up with unlikely boyfriends in life, and also some unlikely friends, and lovers.
Keep an open mind, dear, the last thing we "gays" need is to continue this trend of mounting criteria and deal breakers about who can or cannot be a possible lover or partner.
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I think Wolfie's point, oh (single) preachy one, is that it is a bit annoying, and presumptious, for a straight person to want to "match up" their gay friends - usually because they have one thing in common -- they are gay. Being gay isn't a reason to go out on a date with someone. Even worse -- a blind date. I suspect (and Wolfie please correct me if I'm wrong) he was more upset about THAT than the fact that he was a rich, lawyer.
Mike
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Boy, you single men are a strange lot, you simply cannot come off as being desperate, you might SCARE them away, and your never gonna find a man, with that type of behavior, don't you single queers know how to play hard-to-get ;D
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I respect you all's opinions. That's what I love about being here. Perhaps I was wrong in some of my initial thoughts. I just don't need fixed up. I'm single by circumstances. I have the confidence again that I don't just need/want any man. I'll wait for the right one. I assume I'll know again once I see it.
Much respect
Wolfie
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Zactly,Wolfie most men like a good challenge, if you don't give them one, they will probably loose interest in you very FAST, make them work for it, if they are interested in you, they will continue to be, if they aren't there is always other fish in the fish sea......
I never had a problem finding a BF, and never remained single for very long, I was the type of guy that would say," I'll do it, when I wanna do it, NOT when you want me to " that was how I did it ;D
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I've had a while to consider some of the comments and also evaluate my thoughts. I guess a lot of my issues stemmed from my friends' beliefs and comments regarding what I would find attractive or am looking for in a relationship. Why lead with the attorney comment. I've witnessed straight people doing this in the dating world too. I hear them talking about someone who has a great job, nice house, expensive car and etc... I read into this that they think I might be interested in external aspects rather than the person.
Why not mention positive attributes that might be beneficial and put the person in a positive light. IE...I have a charming friend that you might like to meet. He is funny, easy going and has an awesome personality.
I'll also retract the statement about him being single for a reason. That was a bit harsh and judgmental. Perhaps he is that awesome guy who is also waiting for right person instead of settling for someone who is impressed with his external assets?
And I will probably never consider dating another "flamer". I dated a guy a long, long time ago who fit this role perfectly. Perfectly masculine in private, but felt a need to scream "faggot" by his actions when out in public. Not a judgment call as much as my own personal tastes. Let them flame away, I'm just not fanning the fires with them. I don't think I have ever been considered a flamer, but have been told I have some effeminate traits. Whatever that is. I'm as comfortable with a sewing machine as I am with a floor jack. I can make you a nice pair of lined drapes or replace your transmission.
Wolfie
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I'm as comfortable with a sewing machine as I am with a floor jack. I can make you a nice pair of lined drapes or replace your transmission.
Wolfie
Well, if I wasn't married, I'd hit that ;D your my kinda man :-*
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I've seen stuff like this in the work place as well. Introduce the new black guy to the black secretary... The thought process seems to be they should hit it off extremely well simply by being the same race.
Personally, I think introductions should be based soley on tit and ass size.
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Well, if I wasn't married, I'd hit that ;D your my kinda man :-*
8) Who says I'd let you?.....;)
Wolfie
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I've seen stuff like this in the work place as well. Introduce the new black guy to the black secretary... The thought process seems to be they should hit it off extremely well simply by being the same race.
Personally, I think introductions should be based soley on tit and ass size.
Or cock size? :o
Wolfie
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8) Who says I'd let you?.....;)
Wolfie
ok, so that's how your gonna play THIS huh, I love a good challenge, make me work for it, but don't do for to long, I may loose interest in you ;)
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I've seen stuff like this in the work place as well. Introduce the new black guy to the black secretary... The thought process seems to be they should hit it off extremely well simply by being the same race.
Personally, I think introductions should be based soley on tit and ass size.
I always hated that when employers always did that to me, 'oh just put Dennis with all the black or Latino workers, to me that was kinda tride for them to even think that way ???
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I've seen stuff like this in the work place as well. Introduce the new black guy to the black secretary... The thought process seems to be they should hit it off extremely well simply by being the same race.
Personally, I think introductions should be based soley on tit and ass size.
Yes if only my friends would include cock size in their selling points...
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OK, had another conversation with straight friends today about whether I'm the man or the woman in a relationship. I adore these people and I'm glad they finally feel comfortable enough to ask me specifics, but this gets tiring. They are friends with "gays" from their places of employment. They thought I'd really like to meet one of their "friends". The first thing Donny says to me is; "he's an attorney and comes from money". That doesn't impress me much. I mean come on, tell me about him and I might consider. Then Carly tells me he's a bit of a flamer who always demands his way. OK, I'm really interested.....not
Maybe they simply care enough about you and even while misguided are simply trying to help. It's not just the action, it's the intent. I think what they did was endearing. You cannot expect straight folks to understand the rules of gay dating, when even gays do not.
Joe
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Oh Joe -- I don't see this as confusion on the rules of gay dating (not sure what those are exactly...). I see this as a, "your gay, he's gay -- you two should go out" no real reason to connect except the gay part. They may have meant well, but it is frustratingly demeaning to assume all one gay man needs in another is that he is gay. Now, I wasn't there, don't know the people, so I am completely open to being wrong, but that is how I read this.
As I said, I was never a fan of the "set up" at any rate. Fortunately, I haven't had to date in a long time.......
Mike
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Zactly,Wolfie most men like a good challenge, if you don't give them one, they will probably loose interest in you very FAST, make them work for it, if they are interested in you, they will continue to be, if they aren't there is always other fish in the fish sea......
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If everyone took your advice about playing hard-to-get, then no one would ever get together. This never made any sense to me. How do you determine who should pursue whom? That sounds similar to the question "who is the man, and who is the woman"? ???
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If everyone took your advice about playing hard-to-get, then no one would ever get together. This never made any sense to me. How do you determine who should pursue whom? That sounds similar to the question "who is the man, and who is the woman"? ???
Herny, it's different for everyone, I never really had to try to pursue anyone , they always pursued me, if I wanted to get involed with them I did, if not I didn't, it was always my choice and mine to make, did I play hard to get YES almost all the time, did it always work, not always, but most of time it did, were all diferent and we all like different things about someone, if you both like a lot of things about each other it's doable, always has been that way for me, I cannot really speak for anyone else, but myself ;)
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LOL
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As I said, I was never a fan of the "set up" at any rate. Fortunately, I haven't had to date in a long time.......
Mike
gotta agree with you there mike, I haven't dated in well over 18 yrs. I probably wouldn't even know how to anymore, what worked for me back then really doesn't apply now-a-days, and I'm being honest here, all I'd probably get now would be STDs and anal-warts, not to mention the fact that I'm well into my 50s ;D ;D ;D
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Is there some secret contest to see who can post the most per thread?
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Is there some secret contest to see who can post the most per thread?
beat's the hell outta me Joe, I'm 55 yrs old, have been with the same man for 18 yrs. most of the posters in here are 10 to 15 yrs younger than me, and most of them aren't even in a LTR, so they couldn't possibly understand any of this, so guess I'm not really qualified to give dating advice :D
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Hi Wolfie--You're a lucky man to have people who think enough of you and probably even love ya such that they wanna try to find a partner for you.
Yes, their features/benefits matching system is flawed--but, you're lucky, I think. Em
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Being set up can suck. Until it doesnt.
Playing hard to get has its value. Until it doesnt.
At least the friends were thinking about your happiness, no matter how clumsily.
And you might give that successful guy a go. Maybe its only the straights who think hes a "flamer". Who knows, if he does turn out worth pursuing, than the success and the money is just a cherry on the cake.
I dont think success or money is a deal breaker per se. If the person has a heart and floats your boat, job and/or financial stability is good thing, isn't it?
I appreciate your walk back on that last point.
Hey anyway, if you are happy single and just content to see who crosses your path naturally, that's fine and dandy too!
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At least the friends were thinking about your happiness, no matter how clumsily.
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Wolfie, I think this is ultimately what you need to think about: do you think your friends had your happiness in mind, or are they uncaring buffoons? Chance are it's the former, and they just a little clumsy in their approach to helping you.
One more thing to think about. A date with a rich, successful, single guy doesn't sound so bad. It just depends on how active you want to be in your search for a partner / mate. But the more people you meet, the better the likelihood of you finding a good match.
Now finish your white zin, and go to sleep! :)
Cheers,
Henry
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Thanks guys for the valid points. I do KNOW that my friends truly care for me and only are wishing the best for me. Perhaps my initial reactionary attitude needs reevaluated.
I never stated that wealth and success were a deal breaker. That would be ridiculous. I just don't think that's as important as the character of the person. Bill became very successful in his career but that wouldn't have mattered in the long term success of our relationship.
I'm neither happy or unhappy being single. I just never envisioned finding love again, especially at my age. Hopefully I stop doing that comparison thing soon. I have reached that point where I want to find another person to spend my life with. I truly enjoyed coming home to a person that I was in love with. I enjoyed all that being a couple afforded us.
I've agreed to attend their next get together instead of a date per se. He has a weekend home here at the lake and regularly has groups of friends over. The worst that can happen is that I develop some great friendships. I also think it's awesome my straight friends are so closely involved with them all.
Wolfie
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I never went for the "flamer" or "super-butch" types of gay men , I always thought that those types were too extreme for my taste in men, however I did love men that were in-the-middle, and well rounded, it's all about attitude & personality for me, I never cared if a man was rich, poor or middle-class, never cared what he drove, or where he lived or what he wore, no bodies perfect, were flawed in one way or another, and were all different, and to me that is what makes life interesting ;)
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Hi Wolfie--You're a lucky man to have people who think enough of you and probably even love ya such that they wanna try to find a partner for you.
Yes, their features/benefits matching system is flawed--but, you're lucky, I think. Em
Em , You are so very correct :)
Most of the straight people I know HIDE and run when they see another GAY MAN around
for fear of me getting to know a person they know :-\
Wolfie You are young and a nice catch ;)
Weasel
P.S. Having a drinky to get threw the night :o
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This thread is a clusterfuck of bad relationship advice. Everyone is different and everyone has a different set of rules and dealbreakers unique unto themselves. It is the very idiosyncratic nature of human beings that makes person A like person B but not person C. Whether this be financial security, good looks, great personality, or just a nature that is complimentary to your own, what could one date hurt anybody? I try not to prejudge or snap judge anyone, but after a date you can usually tell if you're interested or not. Wolfie my advice is to maybe take the date and then be honest with the guy if you're not interest, no harm no foul.
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P.S. Having a drinky to get threw the night :o
Don't know what's up, but I haven't felt much like partying lately. Maybe working around all those drunks so much has something to do with it. I've not had a glass of wine in probably 2 weeks now. :o
thanks for the compliment also. ;)
Wolfie
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This thread is a clusterfuck of bad relationship advice.
Oh come on now Trey, you know it's not bad advice, @ least not coming from most of us who have been in a LTR for many yrs.
it might be somewhat 20 yrs DATED, but it's certainly not bad advice..
most of us old timers are still in those LTR's , so we much be doing something correct there youg man ;)
EXCUSE ME regular older gays speaking there mind here , nothing more :)
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Wolfie,
I have a guy I want to set you up with. Now, he is in the closet. I hope that doesn't bother you. He also still lives with his mother. He gets pets and they all seem to end up dead. I'm not sure what that's about and whether I should call the Humane Society. But, he has an awesome personality. Sometimes, he has more than one personality. But, it would be like being in an open relationship and you would still be monogamous.
Can I give him your number?
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Awful first dates are kinda funny a few days later. Unless it was with a serial killer.
I have been on some where we both realised about an hour into it that its an awfully bad match and we laughed. That's often quite the relief. The worst is meeting some anal retentive type who plays games or doesn't show much of his humanity.
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Wolfie,
I have a guy I want to set you up with. Now, he is in the closet. I hope that doesn't bother you. He also still lives with his mother. He gets pets and they all seem to end up dead. I'm not sure what that's about and whether I should call the Humane Society. But, he has an awesome personality. Sometimes, he has more than one personality. But, it would be like being in an open relationship and you would still be monogamous.
Can I give him your number?
I already had his number....I dated him a while ago..... ;D
Wolfie
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Wolfie,
I have a guy I want to set you up with. Now, he is in the closet. I hope that doesn't bother you. He also still lives with his mother. He gets pets and they all seem to end up dead. I'm not sure what that's about and whether I should call the Humane Society. But, he has an awesome personality. Sometimes, he has more than one personality. But, it would be like being in an open relationship and you would still be monogamous.
Can I give him your number?
I AM rolling on the floor laughing my ass off 8)
That is very funny , Although I have met this man also ...............
Weasel :-*
P.S. Bar~B~Ques and puppies don't really go together :o
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Ask the straight couple who is the guy and who is the girl in their relationship.
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Ask the straight couple who is the guy and who is the girl in their relationship.
In their case, she just might be the guy. ;)
Wolfie
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In their case, she just might be the guy. ;)
Wolfie
Well, IMHO they don't make strap-on's for nothing ;D
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Update: We had our "Queen of hearts" drawing last night. It always draws a large crowd. I walked in expecting to see the same people and this totally hot guy caught my eye. Maybe the gaydar was in overdrive?
I hadn't planned on working but I decided to help behind the bar so I could interact freely with the customers. I had no idea who he was but quickly figured out he was my friends' guest. If he's a flamer, then I'm a downright queen. He is incredibly charming, sweet , and if I didn't mention; totally hot.
It took all my strength to not accept his invite for a nightcap.
Wolfie
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This is the same guy your friends were trying to get you to meet, and which started this whole thread? My, you've certainly changed your tune....
Why didn't you accept his invite for a nightcap? Maybe that depends on what he meant by nightcap (I'm always terribly naive about these things). Perhaps you could have instead offered him your phone number, and suggested getting together again. Work it!
Cheers,
Henry
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The 'who is the girl ?... who is the guy ?' question has always led to some interesting responses no doubt. I have never had that conversation with a 'straight' male but have several times with my lesbian friends. Its genuine curiosity on their part I guess.
Personally, the total 'flamers' dont do much for me. I like masculinity and intelect. If the discussion is only about tv, movies, and meaningless drivel then its not going anywhere.
No right answer Wolfie... if you dont feel like a date with someone, I am sure you will not accept one.
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I never went for the "flamer" or "super-butch" types of gay men , I always thought that those types were too extreme for my taste in men, however I did love men that were in-the-middle, and well rounded, it's all about attitude & personality for me, I never cared if a man was rich, poor or middle-class, never cared what he drove, or where he lived or what he wore, no bodies perfect, were flawed in one way or another, and were all different, and to me that is what makes life interesting ;)
Then this one will throw you. http://www.videobash.com/video_show/weirdest-body-builder-ever-2663?utm_source=T8&utm_medium=Traffic_Trade&utm_campaign=t8_gay_trade_box2 (http://www.videobash.com/video_show/weirdest-body-builder-ever-2663?utm_source=T8&utm_medium=Traffic_Trade&utm_campaign=t8_gay_trade_box2) ;)
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Then this one will throw you. http://www.videobash.com/video_show/weirdest-body-builder-ever-2663?utm_source=T8&utm_medium=Traffic_Trade&utm_campaign=t8_gay_trade_box2 (http://www.videobash.com/video_show/weirdest-body-builder-ever-2663?utm_source=T8&utm_medium=Traffic_Trade&utm_campaign=t8_gay_trade_box2) ;)
;D ;D ;D Roddels that's too funny........
that is from steroids... HGH or something, doubt it's natural at all ;)
or he would had to be weight training ever since when he was 10 yrs old..........lol :D
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;D ;D ;D Roddels that's too funny........
that is from steroids... HGH or something, doubt it's natural at all ;)
or he would had to be weight training ever since when he was 10 yrs old..........lol :D
I have some women friends that would die for a set like that. ;D
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I have some women friends that would die for a set like that. ;D
;D Bob & I know a few of them here in ABQ ;)
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Then this one will throw you. http://www.videobash.com/video_show/weirdest-body-builder-ever-2663?utm_source=T8&utm_medium=Traffic_Trade&utm_campaign=t8_gay_trade_box2 (http://www.videobash.com/video_show/weirdest-body-builder-ever-2663?utm_source=T8&utm_medium=Traffic_Trade&utm_campaign=t8_gay_trade_box2) ;)
Hmmmmmmmmm... not quite sure what to say about that!
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Hmmmmmmmmm... not quite sure what to say about that!
oh you know you want him :-*
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oh you know you want him :-*
If he had enlargement implants I hope he didn't stop just there. ;)
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This is the same guy your friends were trying to get you to meet, and which started this whole thread? My, you've certainly changed your tune....
Why didn't you accept his invite for a nightcap? Maybe that depends on what he meant by nightcap (I'm always terribly naive about these things). Perhaps you could have instead offered him your phone number, and suggested getting together again. Work it!
Cheers,
Henry
I so wanted to accept his offer for a nightcap but I also didn't want to let my hormones override common sense. He's coming to the lake again this evening and I am signing him into the post. Perhaps after a little bit of liquid courage, I'll accept his offer. :o I've had little experience dating, so I'm trying to handle it all correctly. Hell, I'm not even sure if it's still acceptable and appreciated to have sex almost immediately.
Wolfie
Did the guy in that video have implants? That just doesn't look appealing at all.
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I so wanted to accept his offer for a nightcap but I also didn't want to let my hormones override common sense. He's coming to the lake again this evening and I am signing him into the post. Perhaps after a little bit of liquid courage, I'll accept his offer. :o I've had little experience dating, so I'm trying to handle it all correctly. Hell, I'm not even sure if it's still acceptable and appreciated to have sex almost immediately.
Wolfie
Did the guy in that video have implants? That just doesn't look appealing at all.
ROFL, I wouldn't think they would, but what the hell, to each his own or her own. ;)
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If he had enlargement implants I hope he didn't stop just there. ;)
;D or maybe he into Vac-penis-pumps ;)
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Sorry this is off topic, but this video is too cute not to post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPomfXaM6dw
Wolfie
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Sorry this is off topic, but this video is too cute not to post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPomfXaM6dw
Wolfie
That Child has talent ;)
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toooo cute, add about 10 years and he'd be perfect!!! to young as is but potential is there, ha.
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Something was discussed last night that smacked me in the face. My friend explained to me that his coworker was initially "into" me. But he felt he learned more about Bill than me. That obviously gave me pause and caused me to reflect.
Just how long are we allowed/supposed to grieve for someone who was such a vital part of ourselves? Is it abnormal to reflect everyday on someone who brought such love and joy to an otherwise bleak existence?
As much as the comments hurt, I realize it was a needed dose of reality. I just wish there was a quick fix on how to let my loved ones rest in peace. It's not just Bill, I realize that I continuously reflect on those whom I loved that have left me way too soon. I once again went through my albums and was comforted by the photos in our happy days.
I'm grateful that I have a survivor's attitude and have discovered an issue that needs resolved. I'm just grateful I have this place to express these thoughts rather than just internalize them.
Wolfie
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Just how long are we allowed/supposed to grieve for someone who was such a vital part of ourselves? Is it abnormal to reflect everyday on someone who brought such love and joy to an otherwise bleak existence?
Wolfie
Bill will always be in your heart & your good memory of him, it never go's away, I grieve every yr. Bob doesn't even ask me why, he already knows why I cry my eyes out @ least twice a yr. he just gives me a b BIG HUG ;)
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Bill will always be in your heart & your good memory of him, it never go's away, I grieve every yr. Bob doesn't even ask me why, he already knows why I cry my eyes out @ least twice a yr. he just gives me a b BIG HUG ;)
You cry? That's so queer! lol Thanks for the kind words.
Wolfie
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You cry? That's so queer! lol Thanks for the kind words.
Wolfie
Yep, I do ;)
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Yep, I do ;)
Dennis did you cry when you watched Lassie too? ;)
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Dennis did you cry when you watched Lassie too? ;)
Only when my dad turned off the TV so I couldn't watch ;)
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This thread is very interesting. This guy or girl thing confuses the hell out of me. So, I try to act more "gay" like wearing more gayish clothes but the problem is that's just not me but acting more gay works better for me and that way I do get right kinda guys ;). I do think 50/50 works better!
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This thread is very interesting. This guy or girl thing confuses the hell out of me. So, I try to act more "gay" like wearing more gayish clothes but the problem is that's just not me but acting more gay works better for me and that way I do get right kinda guys ;). I do think 50/50 works better!
There has always been the belief from a lot of straight folks, that gays couples play roles. They expect that one of the men will be the "woman". I've always taken it to mean; who pokes who without right out asking.
Wolfie
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There has always been the belief from a lot of straight folks, that gays couples play roles. They expect that one of the men will be the "woman". I've always taken it to mean; who pokes who without right out asking.
Wolfie
But what if your like me & bob, we both poke each other.....lol were the pokee & the pokete ;D
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But what if your like me & bob, we both poke each other.....lol were the pokee & the pokete ;D
It's that "top" "bottom" thingy. I could never last in that type of relationship. Like, WTF? The same thing everytime? Sometimes you wanta be the pole, sometimes you wanta be the hole. ;D
Wolfie
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It's that "top" "bottom" thingy. I could never last in that type of relationship. Like, WTF? The same thing everytime? Sometimes you wanta be the pole, sometimes you wanta be the hole. ;D
Wolfie
Sometimes we wanna be the Boy, and sometimes we wanna be the Daddy, this works out well for us, we wouldn't have it any other way, hey were both Men right, so we might as well have sex like 2 men do, your missing out Greg, nothing wrong with that type relationship ;D
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You missed what I said Den, I absolutely insist in being versatile. I would never be just the top or bottom.
Wolfie
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You missed what I said Den, I absolutely insist in being versatile. I would never be just the top or bottom.
Wolfie
Oh I gotcha Greg, if you got a dick & and ass and your a gay man might as well use what you got, Bagged me a husband like that 18 yrs. ago ;)