Concerned about possible blood and handshake.

[Jobu]

Good day kind moderators and knowledgeable Hiv individuals.

Could you please give me some input and current concerns regarding a possible exposure regarding my father and possible blood contact during a handshake with a person with a unknown Hiv status or viral load and also unknown Hep c status.

The individual had pricked his finger that cause quite a stream of blood down his middle finger and some of the blood dropped onto the other hand also during this. He wiped most of it off but could see that some streaks of blood was still present after wiping. I'm not sure of the complete timeline but I would say after about 30 seconds or so he greated my father by hand. I'm not sure if my dad had open bleeding wounds on his hands I checked and did not notice any. My father has the tendency to touch his eyes or nose or mouth after greeting someone, it's an old habit. If the person had a viral load or was still in his window period would my father be at any risk with this kind of indirect contact if some of the blood wasn't completely dry after the individual wiped most off with a cotton ball. Does Hiv die instantly exposed to air? Would there be any risk for my father during this kind of contact and mucus membranes contact. I don't know if I'm just paranoid but two weeks after he said that his one toe...shoulder...elbow and finger had like a burning feeling. He works in the garden alot and noticed something that looked like a heat rash...not sure. The burning feeling in the joints continued for about two months. Just complaining about sweating alot at times...wich he normally does. I read up about arthralgia and it freaked me out. He had no fever...malaise or any other concerning symptoms. Just the joint burning that he says felt strange to him. Would it be possible to contract Hiv in this manner or am I being overly paranoid?
I'm I correct to say that most of the blood was wiped of and exposed to oxygen and that the virus would of been inactive?  About 30 seconds to a minute.
Kind regards

[Jim Allen]

Hiya.

Read your post three times; your father did not acquire HIV from shaking someone's hand.

Please don't post about this again.

[Jobu]

Thank for the reply Jim.

So even if my dad shaked the individuals hand shortly after wiping most blood of his hand. Would the virus be inactive? Even if the individual had a high viral load or possibly in his window period that would make him very infectious?  So if my dad touched his face shortly after or mucus membranes like eyes...mouth...or nose or possible cuts it poses no risk? Could you give me some clarification to calm my nerves.
Kind regards

[Jobu]

So the symptoms he is currently experiencing like arthralgia and joint pain in fingers doesn't have anything to do regarding the exposure. No need for testing?

[Jim Allen]

So even if my dad shaked the individuals hand shortly after wiping most blood of his hand. Would the virus be inactive? Even if the individual had a high viral load or possibly in his window period that would make him very infectious?  So if my dad touched his face shortly after or mucus membranes like eyes...mouth...or nose or possible cuts it poses no risk?

I did say I read your post three times before answering, these things have been asked, read and carefully considered in my first reply to you. So falls under "asked and answered already".

So the symptoms he is currently experiencing like arthralgia and joint pain in fingers doesn't have anything to do regarding the exposure.

Also asked and answered already. There was no HIV exposure from the handshake.

Could you give me some clarification to calm my nerves.

HIV is fragile, and exposure outside the confines of the human body, as you mentioned, is only one of the many barriers to this concern. In short, what you posted lacks any of the simultaneous required biological and environmental conditions needed to pass on HIV; it's the same reason that toilet seats, touching door handles, and drinking from the same glass aren't HIV risks either.

However, another reason I told you to stop posting about this next to it being paranoid is I can't provide a full assessment of your father to you as I presume you don't keep him locked up 24/7, so for all we know, he could be joining orgies and swinging nude from the chandeliers when you're not around. 

No need for testing?

Not because of the handshake, but yes, your father should be testing; I mean, he might have a touch of AIDS; all I know is it was not because of a handshake.

Tell your father to use condoms for any intercourse (You exist, so I presume he doesn't always or not correctly), don't share syringes, and he should get tested yearly for HIV & STIs

Please don't post about this again, as it will lead to a 28-day ban for the following reasons;
A) Ignoring my warning
B) Continuing to post excessively about a no-HIV risk situation.

[Jim Allen]

Here's what you need to know to reduce your HIV risks:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier-acquired STIs. So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms; testing is the only way to know.

Kind regards

Jim

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