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Author Topic: Latest labs....Arghh.  (Read 2409 times)

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Offline Cojo

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Latest labs....Arghh.
« on: December 21, 2012, 12:39:34 pm »
Just got my latest labs. Wish i could say all is well (my Doc does), but I can't help to be anxious at a CD4 drop from 450-310. That said, these were morning labs with fasting - I am beginning to see a pattern here of lower numbers when this is the case.
May 2011 - Tested Positive
June 2011 - CD4 330   16%   VL182,000 no resistance
Oct 6, 2011 - CD4 300  20%  VL 60,000
Oct 7, 2011 - start Truvada / Isentress
Nov 29, 2011 CD4 280 26% VL 54
Feb 7 2012 CD4 260 25% UD!
Mar 20 2012 CD4 400 28%
June 2012 CD4 330 26% UD
Sept 2012 CD4 450 32% UD
Dec 2012 CD4 310 28% UD
May 2013 CD4 500 32% UD
Oct 2013 CD4 460 33% UD
May 2014 CD4 360 33% UD
Aug 2014 swap out Isentress for Tivicay
Oct 2014 CD4 320 33% UD
Feb 2015 CD4 420 30% UD
Jul 2015 CD4 480 32% VL51 !!
Sep 2015 UD
Feb 2016 CD4 460 35% UD
Aug 2016 CD4 378 33% UD

Offline Ithappens

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Re: Latest labs....Arghh.
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 01:18:36 am »
Cojo, have you been stressed out or under the weather?  I remember being told by the nurse at my MD office that stress will cause cd4 count to drop.
4/2009 Negative
6/24/09 ER with 104 degree temp
July-Nov 09 constantly had a cold and was tired, late Nov i asked to be tested
11/30/09 Tested positive and my Dr had the results confirmed before he told me
12/30/09 Appt with ID MD
1/28/10 cd4: 382 VL:72226
2/11/10 Started Atripla
4/10 cd4: 530 VL: UD
8/10 cd4: 551 VL: UD
11/10 cd4: 430 VL: UD
3/11 "                     "
9/11 cd4: 628 VL: UD
2/12 cd4: 638 VL: 103
7/12 cd4: 644 VL: UD 35%
1/13 cd4: 665 VL: UD 36%

Offline Cojo

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Re: Latest labs....Arghh.
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 04:07:55 pm »
Hey LT, thanks for the reply. I was feeling a little flu-like that day after a few nights on the town in Montreal!
This is the part I just don't get.
I have been undetectable almost a year now, which by my understanding means the viral load is so small, it is not damaging the immune system. In the absence of HIV destruction, shouldn't those CD4's be only getting better? What's hindering them?
May 2011 - Tested Positive
June 2011 - CD4 330   16%   VL182,000 no resistance
Oct 6, 2011 - CD4 300  20%  VL 60,000
Oct 7, 2011 - start Truvada / Isentress
Nov 29, 2011 CD4 280 26% VL 54
Feb 7 2012 CD4 260 25% UD!
Mar 20 2012 CD4 400 28%
June 2012 CD4 330 26% UD
Sept 2012 CD4 450 32% UD
Dec 2012 CD4 310 28% UD
May 2013 CD4 500 32% UD
Oct 2013 CD4 460 33% UD
May 2014 CD4 360 33% UD
Aug 2014 swap out Isentress for Tivicay
Oct 2014 CD4 320 33% UD
Feb 2015 CD4 420 30% UD
Jul 2015 CD4 480 32% VL51 !!
Sep 2015 UD
Feb 2016 CD4 460 35% UD
Aug 2016 CD4 378 33% UD

Offline Rev. Moon

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Re: Latest labs....Arghh.
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 07:08:21 pm »
Cojo,

You may be stressing unnecessarily.  You need to consider a couple of things:

1) Your CD4 count pre-HIV may have been close to 500 or so, which is normal and healthy number itself (not every person in the world has values over 1000 like Philicia or the Wumpetta). 

2) Some people take a while to return to a higher count (if they had it to begin with).  What counts is the fact that you're undetectable and in good health.


The recent variation is not truly significant (or something to be too anxious about), especially when you take into consideration your June values.  Notice that your CD4% has remained virtually stable; this is a measurement that gives you a better indication of any fluctuations that might require additional attention.  When it comes to HIV and CD4 values what matters is the trend over time, not a minor change from one reading to the next. 
"I have tried hard--but life is difficult, and I am a very useless person. I can hardly be said to have an independent existence. I was just a screw or a cog in the great machine I called life, and when I dropped out of it I found I was of no use anywhere else."

 


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