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Title: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: PeteNYNJ on December 04, 2006, 12:11:37 am
I am just full of posts today....

I have a question for the gay/bi/questioning/men in the forums who have ever been on Manhunt.net (Sorry my lovely Ladies but chime in if you have an opinion)

 For those who don't know, Manhunt.net is VERY popular hook-up site for men.  Almost as popular as friendster or myspace in the gay community.

Anyhow - there is a very public question regarding status (right after age, position, favorite diva, whatever).  I always found this question intrusive - even before I was poz- because there are no questions about syphilis, gonorrhea, TB, rabies, plague, etc.

Anywho, I played a game and left mine positive (hardly any responses), ask me ( more responses), and blank (almost as many as if I put I can never get any disease on Earth).  It just makes me mad that this is even an option in a place that is so public and supposedly for the gay community.  I think it shows how far we still need to go to educate people ( the words - clean, no diseases, etc. are thrown around regularly plus people get super exicited and post when they last tested negaive - I wonder if they would do the same if it came out poz) I  leave mine blank now because I dont want anyone who looks at my profile to know that much info about me.  If they are interested , we shall discuss.
 
I assume that many others have done like me (or liked) because the % of guys if you pull up NYC is ridiculously low.

Thought?
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Eldon on December 04, 2006, 12:14:56 am
Hey Confused,

It is all about how you want to approach it. The ball is in your court on this one.


Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Longislander on December 04, 2006, 12:18:32 am
I haven't changed my status there from negative. But then again, I'm not in there much anymore. When I do pop in, to search for POS men (you're right, not proportionate), I get a few new emails. I just politely decline whatever it is they're offering and get out as quickly as I can.

I can't change my status there to POS. I have similar pics on regular dating sites, and a great deal of people around know me from the pics.
I can tell you, when I used to go in there, if it didn't say negative, I would assume positive. It didn't make sense to me that someone would tell when they wanted it, and whatever is right next to it, then leave that blank.

I never thought it was blank because they thought it was an intrusive question. As far as your 'study' goes, I'm going to assume you'll get fewer responses.

Paul
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: PeteNYNJ on December 04, 2006, 12:24:36 am
I understand Paul, but ins't it deceiptful to put negative then nothing at all?

Believe me, I am not giving you shit - to me it is like walking into your local gay dive and running up to the dj booth to announce "Hey eveyone, I am poz just in case you are interested, so run for the hills"
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Longislander on December 04, 2006, 12:34:05 am
oh it definitely is, that's why I don't shop there anymore! lol

If I were to pop in there and change it to blank, I may as well just put Pos.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on December 04, 2006, 12:39:53 am
If it wasn't so politically incorrect and they could get away with it the negatives in the gay community would be glad for the positives to wear red triangles on their clothing.   OK, I know everyone isn't like that but I think many/most are even if they won't admit it.

Then again there are many positives who, if they show no traits of lipoatrophy, aren't interested in dating someone that has it.  Same thing.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: GSOgymrat on December 04, 2006, 01:29:50 am
I had never heard of manhunt.net so I briefly checked it out. I don't think the fact they have a HIV status category is what is upsetting you as much as the lack of response to posting that you are positive. I didn't look into the whole thing but sexual position was one of the top categories. If people are going to count you out because of your hair color, age, race or the fact you won't bottom it's perfectly understandable they wouldn't be interested because of HIV status. As everyone on here knows HIV is serious stuff and of course most people are not going to see poz as a positive. People are looking at a brief little description accompanied by a photo that may or may not actually be of that person and filling in the blanks with what they hope will be their ideal. If I was looking for a boyfriend online I would count people out for less serious stuff than HIV: smokes... nope, alcohol... nope, drugs... nope, over 6'2"... nope, under 30... nope.

Frankly I don't see this as a problem because if someone wasn't interested in me because my online profile says I'm poz, or bald, or 40 or hairy I wouldn't take it personally. It's not me as a person but just stats on a computer screen. If someone can't deal with HIV then I would rather know up front and not waste my time. However people shouldn't be rude. I think I get most irritated with guys who go on about how they are so masculine and straight acting and any gayness will not be tolerated. I just want to say "I bet you'll look really straight with my dick in your ass"... but then that would be rude.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Longislander on December 04, 2006, 01:35:22 am
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I bet you'll look really straight with my dick in your ass"... but then that would be rude.

LMAO, I thought everone heard of Manhunt!! Just to clear one thing up, you don't look for a BF on Manhunt-lol
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: thunter34 on December 04, 2006, 01:48:00 am
GSO:  Some might think it is 'rude', but it is definitely appropriate in my book.  That 'straight-acting' bit makes me run for the hills, personally.  Yes, I like my guy masculine...at least somewhat, but I also prefer that to be the term used to describe it.  'Straight-acting' generally reads to me as somewhere between 'mildly to severely closeted' and 'most likely boring in bed'.  Just my opinion.

I didn't really get that status question to be so offensive.  Actually, I saw it as a possible olive branch to + guys that might rather just have that out there from the start, rather than having to wonder if/when the big question was gonna come up & then how to handle it once asked.

I totally undrstand the frustration you feel about the difference in % of responses, though.  I said this in another post, but I'll say it again here:  In Atlanta (and I imagine in most other places), guys frequently cast a sideways glance at the poz boys, all the while engaging in some raw sex that would make even the most seasoned porn star blush.  I can't count how many times I saw bowls of unopened condoms placed as far out of sight as possible...as if their mere prescence in the room would ward off any threat of HIV/AIDS.  A Safe Sex Totum, I call it.  And the declaration of 'negative' works like magic for paving the way to any and all sorts of raw adventures, far away from the bothersome worry that is HIV.

Like 'Abracadabra'.  Or 'Open Sesame'.

~+
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: sdcabincrew74 on December 04, 2006, 02:07:16 am
Ah, I love manhunt.  Anyway what I have found is that if their answer is "Ask me" they are poz.  At least, in my experience.  I have mine as ask me in case any coworkers run into me there.  Which, more than a few have .... the joys of being a flight attendant.  Anyway, just put ask me.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: yowsaa on December 04, 2006, 02:42:49 am
Srry to take your thread off topic here. I totally figured the gay community would be more receptive/understanding and educated towards poz people. Holy crap, I think if you guys have trouble hooking up, what chance would I have if single. Now I really feel like a leper lol.

This frigging thing truly does suck, don't it.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: red_Dragon888 on December 04, 2006, 06:16:40 am
Fear of death, fear of losing a love one, fear of the unknown.  It is logical that people who are neg wont want to have sex with people who are poz.  That said, and I do understand their position, I rather leave the space blank, and than tell the hook-up my status.  It is a nice ice-breaker.  I sometimes get the "oh me too" statement.  Either way, their fear is justified and it seems that most sites have some kind of method to reveal your HIV status.  Like me for me and my p.o.z. 
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Iggy on December 04, 2006, 09:42:41 am
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Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: thunter34 on December 04, 2006, 10:02:28 am
Yep!  Preach on, Iggy!  It is like I said above about the magic words and safe sex totums.  It's just like the classic Atlanta Harm Reduction Plan:

They want to be Master Class Party Whores themselves, but they don't want to be around anyone who will openly say anything to that effect.  After all, if you declare yourself into partying and BB, then you must be a real tramp and clearly eat up with the fever.  They want you to present yourself porn fantasy style..."Well, I've never done this before, but..."

A few years back, a friend and I entertained ourselves for hours as he played that game with someone online.  This guy shot back (the very first sentence of the first reply...and in CAPS)   NO BAREBACK !!  He said it over and over and always in caps...yet he kept fishin' around my friend's profile that was pretty obviously infavor of the ol' BB.    Eventually, every time this guy would hit up my friend, he would reply right back:  NO BAREBACK !!!  This soon morphed into something along the lines of..."well, I have once or twice.  how about you?  UBB?"  Needless to say, they hooked up...and, of course, this other guy went straight for topping my friend raw style.  Who knew??   ::)

The hypocrisy is staggering on those sites.  This guy was clearly just trying to kid himself so he could feel better about being the ho-dog he was.  They always want to have the feast without any guilt attached.  Like having a diet soda with a big plate of chicken wings.

~+

(To the Ghost of R:  UBB?  LOL.  I miss you, friend.)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Dachshund on December 04, 2006, 10:07:43 am
Gee, you mean to tell me guys lie? Who da thunk it?
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Basquo on December 04, 2006, 10:16:55 am
I have my status on there, and even a line that says "I prefer other poz guys," but ever since I put this latest pic up there, I get emails within a minute of logging on, from all types of guys, even negatives.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: thunter34 on December 04, 2006, 10:25:12 am
...but ever since I put this latest pic up there, I get emails within a minute of logging on, from all types of guys, even negatives.

Hmmm.   Imagine that.   ::)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: aztecan on December 04, 2006, 11:10:51 am
I'd never heard of Manhunt.com until another member here mentioned it in his blog.

Sorry guys, I just distrust hooking up with anyone on the Internet. You have no idea what's on the other end or what you might walk into.

I was always a face-to-face, or face-to-whatever, kinda guy.

Creighton, I am not at all surprised you're getting lots of hits with that latest photo.  8)


HUGS,

Mark


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Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on December 04, 2006, 11:53:27 am
Gee, you mean to tell me guys lie? Who da thunk it?
On the internet no less!  How DARE they!
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Strayboy74 on December 04, 2006, 12:50:15 pm
I am just full of posts today....

Unfortunately, fags, like children, are sometimes exceptionally vicious - and often without trying to hurt others.

When I put POZ in my manhunt status field, I ended up curtailing "the conversation" and the disappointment from rejection.  I have found that it saves a great deal of grief.  btw, I'm strayboy74 on manhunt as well. :)

I'm glad that I can put my status, it saves me from weeding out the dick holes.

-joseph
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: pozguy75 on December 04, 2006, 01:03:21 pm
I have mine up, with my status...and I get posts the minute I log in, and a lot when I am not...hmmm...and strayboy74...I will be hitting you up later!! ;D
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: PeteNYNJ on December 04, 2006, 01:14:12 pm
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I'm glad that I can put my status, it saves me from weeding out the dick holes.

So I guess that makes you a bottom?  :)

[quoteI have my status on there, and even a line that says "I prefer other poz guys," but ever since I put this latest pic up there, I get emails within a minute of logging on, from all types of guys, even negatives.][/quote]

Of course you do, when I saw your new pic on here I immediately looked up where you lived, alas - it is nowhere near me :(

I guess it goes to show that the better you look, the more people will take chances on you.  Wasn't there a study done recently that found a positive correlation between likelyhood of having an STD and how attractive someone is considered?  I guess we can take solace in the fact that we are all obviously beautiful :)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Strayboy74 on December 04, 2006, 01:35:02 pm
I have mine up, with my status...and I get posts the minute I log in, and a lot when I am not...hmmm...and strayboy74...I will be hitting you up later!! ;D

:)  I'm easily smitten by swarthy men who have dark facial hair.  LOL


BTW, don't be alarmed by the pictures of me in leather. :)

-joseph
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: poet on December 04, 2006, 03:51:20 pm
As Paul pointed out, manhunt is not where you go for relationship dating, unless it's master and slave.  :)  To answer positive or unknown or something other than negative, in a place like NYC with so many men, it's a street which no one in heat feels that he needs to go down.  I am not surprised by your results, in other words.  Then you need to factor in 'look.'  Certain looks- and this is no comment about yours, please know- are deemed 'hot' and draw more men and, over time, those looks have varied and changed.  Someone who can come (or c__) across as being a take charge guy is also more likely to get hit on.  Or a fresh face, the 'staff' guys having already been through everyone twice.  The same is true among male hookers.  Some are more attractive to the general client.  Some attractive to certain clients.  Manhunt, like much of life, is about marketing yourself and your... product.  Win
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on December 04, 2006, 04:01:34 pm
:)  I'm easily smitten by swarthy men who have dark facial hair. 

Isn't everyone? :)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: pozguy75 on December 04, 2006, 04:08:04 pm
:)  I'm easily smitten by swarthy men who have dark facial hair.  LOL


BTW, don't be alarmed by the pictures of me in leather. :)

-joseph

I won't be alarmed, if you're not alarmed by me in leather sporting a rosebud!
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Strayboy74 on December 04, 2006, 05:02:58 pm
I won't be alarmed, if you're not alarmed by me in leather sporting a rosebud!

Ah well... in the immortal words of Gertrude Stine, "A Rosebud is a rosebud, is another fucking bottom."

For a dyke, she sure knew ass.  Perhaps we could just costar in a movie together. LOL

-joseph
A rosebud by another name
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Razorbill on December 04, 2006, 05:18:24 pm
On my local site in gay.com - I leave it blank.   It's TMI for the average bozo.  If they have half a brain they should know I'm saying something by saying nothing.  I disclose only to sexual partners, genrally in person.  Let them pull their pants on and walk if they can't deal.
PS - Razorbill is in a take no prisoners mood tonight.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: thirtysomething on December 04, 2006, 09:46:24 pm
I leave my status as "Ask Me" on Manhunt. I believe manhunt is popular only in some parts of US, like NJ/NYC..

In Canada, guys don't give a shit for Manhunt, everybody prefers men4sexnow.com
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: NightmareHall on December 06, 2006, 08:41:09 am
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Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: NightmareHall on December 06, 2006, 08:49:46 am
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Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: chadnla on December 17, 2006, 09:45:02 pm
never heard of it (nose growing longer). ok well maybe a few (hundred) times.  i used to put "Ask Me", but then that just creates one more email to have to disclose.  Now I put "poz" in the text part.  still a lot of Neg guys interested, but this is LA where it's more laid back.

but i do agree with you about asking for other diseases, etc.  never thought about it b4.

also agree with Strayboy74, it saves a lot of grief and time to just put it in profile.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on December 17, 2006, 09:57:34 pm
I haven't had an internet hook up in 5 years.  I was really badly stalked by this freak in Manhattan once and it really turned me off.  Nothing like fearing for you life!... Sad thing is that I eventually ended up having sex with him (*giggle*)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: thunter34 on December 17, 2006, 10:02:51 pm
Ah well... in the immortal words of Gertrude Stine, "A Rosebud is a rosebud, is another fucking bottom."

For a dyke, she sure knew ass.  Perhaps we could just costar in a movie together. LOL

-joseph
A rosebud by another name


Whoooo, Lordy !!!   

'Rosebud'.  It ain't just a sled!

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Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: chadnla on December 17, 2006, 10:03:20 pm
glad to see that your morals really kicked in  LOL
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: chadnla on December 17, 2006, 10:04:59 pm
what really irks me, is when you email someone and it goes into the black hole.  if ur not interested just let me know. i can handle it.  i always try to respond even if it's to say "not a match, but good luck".  i've had a few guys actually thank me for responding.

then again it is a sex site, not a manners site
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Tucsonwoody on December 17, 2006, 10:13:24 pm
It's a sex site?  damn I didn't know that.  Will have to read those profiles a little closer :) 

And I have actually gotten more contacts I think after posting a note about my status.  Not that I get a lot of contacts these days or years for that matter  :'(
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: aupointillimite on December 17, 2006, 10:26:18 pm
I'm not gonna lie and say that I've never trolled for booty on the Internets... but this whole conversation makes me really glad that I don't do that so much anymore.

Personally, I've found it easier when you meet someone in person (or even through a non-sex site like Myspace), and while they really probably want in your pants (that's the dirty little secret about Myspace... it's responsible for more poon hookups than gay bars in some states), there's at least that veneer of sociability. 

Even though you'd rather just get to sex, the medium in which you've met the person is different, and you're forced to get to know each other as people a bit more than on sites like that.

I've found that I don't have these disclosure issues so much when I've met someone that way.  They're less likely to say "see ya" when they've met ya and dig ya.

Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Queen Tokelove on December 18, 2006, 12:36:59 pm
"Personally, I've found it easier when you meet someone in person (or even through a non-sex site like Myspace), and while they really probably want in your pants (that's the dirty little secret about Myspace... it's responsible for more poon hookups than gay bars in some states), there's at least that veneer of sociability. "

It's sad that MySpace has turned into the hook up site because it is not meant for that, it was meant for musicians or so I was told. I have a profile on there but I make it known that I am not there for the quick hook up but to make friends, nothing irritates me more than whore trains, but have chatted with a few good people.

Sorry to kinda hijack but I really can't comment on Manhunt for obvious reasons... :D
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on December 18, 2006, 05:39:28 pm
I think a lot of the younger set that seems to sexually exist solely on the internet is missing some require skill sets.  Pre-internet in the 90's (well, I had internet access by '94 or so but hardly anyone else did so I didn't indulge that way until around '98, but I digress) one really had to hone those cruising/pick up skills at the bar.  It's surely becoming a lost art... and I will admit that I was fairly skilled back in the day.  One of my ex's used to call me "Bar Whore" which of course is funny but not a particularly compelling nickname to have.  Still makes me laugh though.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Iggy on December 18, 2006, 07:27:01 pm
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Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: inthesameboat on December 18, 2006, 08:07:43 pm
I was glad to see this posting.. 
I was wondering what to do with mine,..
I kept it as negative but if things are going as to meet and when im sure who in chatting with i let them know..  I cant post as positive because im not telling my family about my status and i have a brother that use that site too..   ;D
But theres a lot of blanks that i assume as positive and most of the ask me too so i tend to chat more with those and respect the ones that clearly say that they want a desease free preson...  But one way or the other is a tuff situation..
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Eldon on December 18, 2006, 09:46:43 pm
Hey Pete...

So how is the hunt going? Location is key.


"Don't Give Up, Don't Give In... Cause it is ALL within you to WIN!"
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on December 18, 2006, 09:56:56 pm
Do you really find being known as a Bar Whore some kind of proof that the older set has better social skills?

 ::)
Bar Whore, Internet Whore... really, which involves better social skills?  *giggle*
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: aupointillimite on December 18, 2006, 10:09:01 pm
Bar Whore, Internet Whore... really, which involves better social skills?  *giggle*

Of course, are social skills really important when the end result is that you're a whore?

And whore is such a negative term.  I always preferred "sexually exuberant."
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on December 19, 2006, 01:54:43 am
Well, I liked to consider myself a picky whore.  I mean, I didn't just go home with anyone!  REALLY!  Plus I generally stay out of public bathhouses and parks... too messy, though there's a large plaque in Judy Garland Park here where I was gang raped by 10 black men in 1995.  I swear I picked up HIV on a toilet seat though.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Jerry71 on December 19, 2006, 02:02:05 am
I joined the site and have noticed since putting up the positive instead of ask me no one will reply. So what it really boils down too I would not doubt that half of the men on there are hiv+ put are to afraid to come out and tell anyone. Then again that is why it is called MANHUNT.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: allopathicholistic on December 19, 2006, 11:41:05 pm
Hmm, try not to joke about picking up HIV from toilet seats. WW's are free to browse any section including Living With HIV and that's the last thing they need to read. But I will show you a picture of a real (and proud-of-it) ho. He has a thing for married preachers ...I think his ho days might be over with his new book deal and all:
(http://www.miami.com/images/miami/miamiherald/16241/263772808488.jpg)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: AtomicA on December 20, 2006, 12:58:24 am
Oh dear me, manhunt....

I leave it blank. Why? because calgary is small and incestuous and there are never more than 70 people on from southern alberta at once. We have one gay bar and pretty much everyone who goes on manhunt also goes there (including some of the staff... not people you want knowing your intimate of intimates). Also, perhaps I'm a hippocrate but I don't think I've come to the point in my life where I can advertise my status yet. I don't tell people that I meet at school, I don't tell my co-workers and only my friends who were around when I was diagnosed, sexual partners and people I have become EXTREMELY close with since my shit hit the fan are privy to that information. My sexual orientation however, I pretty much wear on my sleeve. I got really freaking sick of girls hitting on me and me having to explain it to them so it made it a hell of alot easier to twink it up a touch upon first introduction to get the point across. Also, I have had much longer to develop a political opinion on my sexuality than I have on my status and came to the conclusion (long before HIV) that closet cases are one of the primary reasons we still have so far to  go in terms of bigotry and legal issues. Perhaps I'm not part of the same problem for people living with HIV but whereas I think being gay is great and I would rather drink acid than become straight, I don't think I will ever come to a place where I think being HIV+ is a good thing.

Plus, I worked really freaking hard to have a wicked body for the last year and I'm not gonna lie, I've got a few racy -yet g rated - photos of myself up there and I kind of like the ego boost from all the messages I get. I have no intention of meeting ANY of them but when you're feeling shitty about yourself a quick pick me up from people wanting a piece of your ass is nice and I don't really want to ruin that by putting up my HIV status.

Does that stop other poz guys from finding me? so far yes, I've only ever seen one other guy in alberta with a poz label on there but that's ok. I got lucky (if you can call it luck) and caught garden variety, wild type HIV that has less than no resistance to all available treatments. I suppose it's selfish on my part but I don't want to sleep with other poz guys and possibly contract whatever drug resistances they have and seriously screw my future up and I think that there would be far more pressure to bareback with someone of the same status as me.

As for the guys on there who put the whole "disease free" thing. well, power to them... I feel the same way. I still wake up everyday and thank god I don't have syphillis and hot diggity I plan on keeping it that way. However, it's freaking ignorant. How the hell can they guarantee that? 20-25% of people with HIV don't know they have it, there are lots of other STDS that can lurk in the shadows for a very long time before the host knows they're there. Putting some dumbass disclaimer like that up doesn't protect you and in my opinion only serves as a backhanded way of advertising their own holier than thou cleanliness.

That whole 'clean' label kind of pisses me off too. Clean? the opposite of clean is dirty and last time I checked, my hygiene was FAR supierior to most everyone I know. I would really love to ask one of them just what exactly they thought of me in comparison to their own 'cleanliness'. For someone to say that makes me think that they must have at one point gotten crabs from one of their many sex partners (but who they probably couldn't tell you) and is really pissed off about it.

*sigh* sorry for ranting again. I'll be much nicer when school is over for the holidays.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Iggy on December 20, 2006, 08:44:23 am
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Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Tucsonwoody on December 20, 2006, 11:26:11 am
AtomicA

That whole 'clean' label kind of pisses me off too. Clean? the opposite of clean is dirty and last time I checked, my hygiene was FAR supierior to most everyone I know. I would really love to ask one of them just what exactly they thought of me in comparison to their own 'cleanliness'. For someone to say that makes me think that they must have at one point gotten crabs from one of their many sex partners (but who they probably couldn't tell you) and is really pissed off about it.

Your above comment is one I have been thinking about alot and trying to phrase - thanks for saving me the trouble.  Hope you have a nice relaxing holiday - but keep on ranting!

Kevin
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: bear60 on December 20, 2006, 12:34:21 pm
I may be wrong but this "clean" label may go back to the "Clean Bill of Health" notion that was popular. Maybe it still is, I dont know. It simply meant that you had been tested for everything and had none of the possible diseases. Seems to me that since HIV was added to the mix....having "the clap" just never had the same stigma..... that people have become more sensitive. So, that now, it's INSENSITIVE to say clean.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: tomcat1 on February 20, 2007, 11:32:32 am
At first I had "Don't know" on my Manhunt profile. Then after talking with a HIV positive friend of mine about my status and not leading someone on that wanted to meet me. I changed it to "Positive" and got many more responses for guys wanted to meet and replies from those thanking me for being honest. If someone would like to see my profile or exchange profile handles let me know.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: puertorico2006 on February 20, 2007, 10:14:34 pm
Its funny i saw this post today because i actually just changed my profile pic from "no answer" to "positive". I only put a body pick up and blocked my face, which honestly has no point since ive had the same screen name for like 3 years lol and its the same for all sites but this one lol...i was scared at first to use my normal screen name but i got over that. Within the last few hours ive gotten a whole bunch of responses from guys saying that they are glad i have the balls to put positive in my profile, and got a few emails from other users who admitted to me they are positive also. I live in Puerto Rico where they keep everything on the down low. I think it will be easier this way because i dont have to work it into the conversation later on, or tell them i dont want to hook up because i dont feel like figuring out how to bring up the subject later on....

I bet it will backfire later when I go out clubbing and see people whispering and i start getting paranoid lol
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: puertorico2006 on February 20, 2007, 10:18:55 pm
by the way the "ask me" and the "no answer" honestly doesnt have much to do with their actual status because i used to put"ask me" or "no answer" when i was negative. I never judged people on hiv status before and didnt feel that it was anyoes business unless they were sleeping with me in which case all they had to do was ask......

I think the responses you get (whether it be more or less) depends on the city in which you live in and the types of people in the area :-D.....if i still lived in fort lauderdale i bet id get a billion more responses but it would all be from tweakers :-\ lol.....at least here in PR i dont have to deal with those (im a reformed tweaker hehe)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Longislander on February 20, 2007, 10:38:58 pm
hey cutie (PR2006) I caught a glimpse of your Manhunt profile when I was getting ready to go to PR for vacation last week!! Niiice~ ;)
Title: Manhunt etc... Hooking up Online
Post by: megasept on February 20, 2007, 10:51:05 pm
Sorry guys, I just distrust hooking up with anyone on the Internet. You have no idea what's on the other end or what you might walk into.

I was always a face-to-face, or face-to-whatever, kinda guy.


Mark, have you ever ordered anything on line, instead of face-to-face? Have you ever put your credit card #s into an online form?

We older folks here, are missing out if we don't enjoy some of the positive aspects of online
hook-ups (I use Adam4Adam, and the dreaded Craig's List), friendships, whatever. You can meet a quality person on line, only remember, you don't meet until you meet (or meat).  ;) -megasept 
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Longislander on February 20, 2007, 11:06:50 pm
Yeah Mark, I'm online, and I'm a really nice guy ;)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: puertorico2006 on February 20, 2007, 11:46:24 pm
thanks longislander for the compliment :-D
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 01:05:19 am
.if i still lived in fort lauderdale i bet id get a billion more responses but it would all be from tweakers

I never made much of a fuss about posting as poz, and frankly have never been at a loss for opportunities. I can recall only one guy (from hundreds) who objected when I sent "Are you poz?" along with opening my pix as a greeting. But my profile has HIV written all over it (literally). Any sane person would understand and agree with the concept of serosorting, especially in the context of my profile, as I am direct and explicit about not using condoms.

As regards the partybois:
As I wrote in my blog, I have come to prefer dealing with the PnP crowd, though I abstain from any stimulant stronger than pots of black tea personally. They are much less inhibited and (generally) more fun. Besides, they can match my stamina and appreciate my skills at edging all night.

Brent
(Who generally substitutes a "c" for the "h" in manhunt)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: thunter34 on February 21, 2007, 01:13:37 am
Not the PC thing to say, but yeah:  PnP folks tend to be better in the sack.  Drunks are lousy, lousy lays.                     
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 01:23:09 am
Not the PC thing to say, but yeah:  PnP folks tend to be better in the sack.  Drunks are lousy, lousy lays.                     

One of the relevations of Manhunt to me was the utter lack of drunks, so unlike the barflys I'd met previously. Tweakers are there with you, egging you on to further excesses and debauchery. My experiences with the entirely sober were entirely too sane for my tastes.

Brent
(Who knows what works and what doesn't)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: thunter34 on February 21, 2007, 01:37:01 am
Too sane and too short lived.  I've always been one of those that prefers sex of really lengthy duration.  Like clear the schedules lengthy if it's possible to do so.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 01:45:13 am
Too sane and too short lived.  I've always been one of those that prefers sex of really lengthy duration.  Like clear the schedules lengthy if it's possible to do so.

My standard's about six hours, but I once had a neophyte in need of some harsh remedials who required twenty-three. He graciously bought my dinner, but didn't touch a plate himself.

Brent
(Who prefers lunch meat to tubesteak)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 01:50:02 am
Brent
(Who prefers lunch meat to tubesteak)

Meet me behind the bologna drapes.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 01:58:39 am
Meet me behind the bologna drapes.

Only if I'm sure to find an intact pepperoni and not pre-sliced salami, and a salad ready to toss vigorously.

Brent
(Who knows on which side his bread is buttered)

/edited to insert a much-needed comma/
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: dtwpuck on February 21, 2007, 06:01:53 am
I couldn't disagree more about playing with tweakers.  While they might be uninhibited.. they never pay attention, they can't stay hard, they have cotton mouth, can't sit still, and they talk way too friggin much.  The only way to have any fun with one of them is to tie them up and use a gag.  Not that I've ever errr done anything like that beingallinnocentandniceandstuff.   8)
 
On the subject of posting status as poz... I travel for work.  I have discovered that when you are a newbie in a city and you post your status as poz, you get more hits and you avoid a whole lot of hits where they are uncomfortable.  Although the reaction varies quite a bit from city to city. 
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 06:13:19 am
I couldn't disagree more about playing with tweakers.  While they might be uninhibited.. they never pay attention, they can't stay hard, they have cotton mouth, can't sit still, and they talk way too friggin much.  The only way to have any fun with one of them is to tie them up and use a gag.  Not that I've ever errr done anything like that beingallinnocentandniceandstuff.   8)
 
On the subject of posting status as poz... I travel for work.  I have discovered that when you are a newbie in a city and you post your status as poz, you get more hits and you avoid a whole lot of hits where they are uncomfortable.  Although the reaction varies quite a bit from city to city. 

If one is in search of a versatile partner, then your point is well taken. but for my purposes none of the above pose any challenges to my libido.

But I applaud your decision to post poz on your profile. We each in our own way contribute to the greater good, increased awareness and visibility as desirable poz guys. I just know what suits me best.

I'm by no means advocating the use of chrystal meth, quite the contrary. But I'd be lying if I didn't summon the observation that, for me and my particular needs, tweakers do quite nicely.

Brent
(Who has no agenda to pimp beyond enjoying sex)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: dtwpuck on February 21, 2007, 06:30:33 am
Bucko, I sometimes do and sometimes don't post poz in my profile.  It depends on my mood and how willing I am to have long tedious conversations about hiv status in smaller cities where people are not as clued in.  If, for example, I wanted to get laid today (I am in a small city right now) I would post nothing and then search myself for people who are poz.    For the most part, I have found that too many people don't even read this information in your profile, so you still have to have the conversation.  Believe me, there's a huge difference in attitudes between, say, Phoenix and Toronto vs oh... Lima Ohio.

I also don't really WANT to get a million hits that I have to ignore.  So I sometimes post what I need to post in order to reduce the number of hits.  Anyway, I definitely say no to everyone with PNP going on.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 06:42:49 am
  Believe me, there's a huge difference in attitudes between, say, Phoenix and Toronto vs oh... Lima Ohio.



This is where your experience trumps mine, D. I prefer the more welcoming (or at least more familiar) climes of the established gay cities of the world. Beyond the local video store, I'd find nothing of interest in Lima, OH.

So I defer to your superior experience.

Brent
(Who brings a change of clothing when venturing to the suburbs)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 08:38:10 am
Not the PC thing to say, but yeah:  PnP folks tend to be better in the sack.  Drunks are lousy, lousy lays.                     

Barbara please!

And you know it's called Tinagra.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 08:44:56 am
btw:   can I just say that the times I played with Tina I DID NOT WANT SEX.  Nope... surely I am an anomaly.  I did, however, want more Tina.  ALWAYS more.  I swear I'm just the human vacuum.

I even used to do it at Lou Maletta's sex club in NYC.  But I'd hang in the office with the manager and not have sex.  And no, I'm not ugly (ref. Porn thread, last page).
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: puertorico2006 on February 21, 2007, 03:16:12 pm
i always wanted sex...its all i thought about for the 3 days i went without sleep in a row lol....but i cant have fun with tweakers now sexually because tina wreaks off their body and it stinks lol (but they do have quite a bit of stamina i must say hehe)....but many times they cant get hard so that kills the fun.....but drunks are no fun either
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Lou-ah-vull on February 21, 2007, 05:05:38 pm
I live a dull life.....sigh!   However, I do get a vicarious rush from these kinds of threads!  Keep 'em coming (pardon the pun....)

Gary  ;)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 05:39:34 pm
and it stinks lol (but they do have quite a bit of stamina i must say hehe)....

We used to call it Tina Sweat in the clubs.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 05:57:15 pm
Sex with neither sweat nor odor sounds kinda bleak (or like sex with many of my exes).

I want to reiterate that I am drug-free beyond an occasional beer or bottle of red wine. And I am not discounting the long-term effects of Tina use/addiction. But if you're looking for a powerbottom freak without limits, you find them frequently among the PnP crowd.

Brent
(Who seeks to clarify)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 05:58:45 pm
It's a well known fact that Tina turns even the most hardcore top into a raging bottom.  I don't need a drug to be a hardcore bottom.  I only top for Lent.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: marc11864 on February 21, 2007, 05:59:22 pm
In my case it all really depends on the particular Manhunt profile of me that you happen to have pulled up at the time.  ;D

I have so many different ones up on the net now that it's hard even to keep track of.

For the most part I am pretty out about my status though.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 21, 2007, 06:12:52 pm
My issue with having partners on Tina is simply that I dare not go to sleep with them, as I like my computer and what little money is in my wallet.

My last date was on Tina, a fact that eventually emerged after a boisterous and long conversation about how his downstairs neighbors were spying on him.



Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 06:33:27 pm
My issue with having partners on Tina is simply that I dare not go to sleep with them, as I like my computer and what little money is in my wallet.

My last date was on Tina, a fact that eventually emerged after a boisterous and long conversation about how his downstairs neighbors were spying on him.





My experience is that there are two things tweakers never do:
1) Sleep
2) Eat

I'm told it kills the buzz.They generally leave when I express interest in either, and can be a great exit strategy.

Brent
(Who remembers it all too clearly)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 06:37:33 pm
Thank God I really don't like meth... it never did much for me.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: dtwpuck on February 21, 2007, 07:21:55 pm
It's a well known fact that Tina turns even the most hardcore top into a raging bottom.  I don't need a drug to be a hardcore bottom.  I only top for Lent.

That's just because they can't get it up.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 07:28:13 pm
That's just because they can't get it up.

Everyone I knew swore by Tinagra.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: dtwpuck on February 21, 2007, 10:37:49 pm
My issue with having partners on Tina is simply that I dare not go to sleep with them, as I like my computer and what little money is in my wallet.

My last date was on Tina, a fact that eventually emerged after a boisterous and long conversation about how his downstairs neighbors were spying on him.


Oooh .... gotta love the crazy ones.  The last time I knowingly had a date with someone in meth, he got up out of the bed and started looking around for the guy I had brought with me.  And started yelling that there was someone there and for him to get the F***K out.  There was no guy, but I definitely got out of there. 

 
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 10:40:03 pm
Oooh .... gotta love the crazy ones.  The last time I knowingly had a date with someone in meth, he got up out of the bed and started looking around for the guy I had brought with me.  And started yelling that there was someone there and for him to get the F***K out.  There was no guy, but I definitely got out of there. 

This is why I take home drunks!

The worst thing they (by which I mean "I") will do during a hook up is pass out in the middle of oral sex.

Do you know what it's like to try to write that off?

Him:  Did you just pass out while I was going down on you?
Me:  Naw, man!  I'm just... uh... really tired.

Class. 
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: dtwpuck on February 21, 2007, 10:44:31 pm
This is why I take home drunks!

The worst thing they (by which I mean "I") will do during a hook up is pass out in the middle of oral sex.

Do you know what it's like to try to write that off?

Him:  Did you just pass out while I was going down on you?
Me:  Naw, man!  I'm just... uh... really tired.

Class. 

Yeah classy.  Wait until you have one puke on you, wipe it off and try to keep going.
I actually started to laugh because it was so incredibly absurd and gross.  Some people learn decorum in an alley, I swear.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 10:50:04 pm
Yeah classy.  Wait until you have one puke on you, wipe it off and try to keep going.
I actually started to laugh because it was so incredibly absurd and gross.  Some people learn decorum in an alley, I swear.

Back during my more toppy days, I did end up covered in poop. 

I won't pretend like I kept going... but I did keep my head through all the abject apologies and freaking out on his part.  Even though there was a little voice in my head that kept screaming, "YOU'RE COVERED IN SHIT!" 

It was nice.

And I did throw up on a guy's dick once.  Never make a drunk person deep throat without telling them if you're not willing to deal with the consequences.

Even classier.   ;) 
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: dtwpuck on February 21, 2007, 10:54:20 pm
ew ew ew ew ew
I have no compunction sending someone to take a shower.   I have a prince albert and it's just too difficult to clean.

poo vs puke... i'd say it's a draw on the grossness scale.



Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 10:55:13 pm
ew ew ew ew ew
I have no compunction sending someone to take a shower.   I have a prince albert and it's just too difficult to clean.

poo vs puke... i'd say it's a draw on the grossness scale.

I'd rather deal with the vom, personally.

Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: dtwpuck on February 21, 2007, 10:59:33 pm
alrighty then... I feel like we're sharing dirty little secrets... and I'm not getting off.

Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 12:35:06 am
I vomited once during oral sex.  But I think it was due to how thick the cock was.  HUGE!  There had been some alcohol, but not that much.

Oh, and he got style points for having a bed raised up on a platform with mirrors on the ceiling -- I thought I was in a cheap version of the playboy mansion, which I guess I was since it was Yonkers.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 01:27:10 am
ew ew ew ew ew
I have no compunction sending someone to take a shower.   I have a prince albert and it's just too difficult to clean.

poo vs puke... i'd say it's a draw on the grossness scale.



One of my sacred rules and unimpeachable boundries is a clean (and throughly flushed) hole. Crunchy fux are just wrong. Perhaps my most disgusting anecdote of all involves a "splattering" (from soloplexis to knee cap) I got from a drunk I dragged home from a Tea Dance whilst still a teen. I didn't think I'd ever get the smell out of my nose.

I distrust guys who bite off more than they can chew (so to speak) and deliver bad blowjobs. Don't bother if you gag half-way down. Oh, and I have had more than one guy gag with chunks. You clean it up, hand him the Scope and move on.

Brent
(Who has a million and one smutty tales)

Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: dtwpuck on February 22, 2007, 04:34:41 am
Yeah, so why is a clean hole so difficult for some so-called power bottoms to accomplish.  Maybe you're on to something with tweakers.  No input.  No output.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 09:28:09 am
I always douche for dates.  I guess sometimes  something can still seep down there.

Yeah, so why is a minimally dirty hole so difficult for some so-called power tops to deal with?  *HELL* you ARE fucking a hole used for defecation, not a woman's pussy.
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 02:02:11 pm
I always douche for dates.  I guess sometimes  something can still seep down there.

Yeah, so why is a minimally dirty hole so difficult for some so-called power tops to deal with?  *HELL* you ARE fucking a hole used for defecation, not a woman's pussy.

There is a world of difference between a drool of santorum and above-mentioned spatterfuck debris. One is to be expected in that region, the other an avoidable gross-out. Douching is the key.

Gamey hole, otherwise empty, can be washed if analingus is on the menu, otherwise fingers will have to suffice.

Brent
(Who, while no stranger to Parisian manicures, prefers not to scrub his cuticles)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 02:05:38 pm
Yeah, so why is a clean hole so difficult for some so-called power bottoms to accomplish.  Maybe you're on to something with tweakers.  No input.  No output.

Being obsessively fastidious is yet another sign of meth use. It's just something they get right. But don't expect any oral...

Brent
(Who has always relied on the hygene of strangers)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: David_CA on February 22, 2007, 02:33:07 pm
There is a world of difference between a drool of santorum and above-mentioned spatterfuck debris. One is to be expected in that region, the other an avoidable gross-out. Douching is the key.

This is one reason I like a hot tub (with bromine, of course) and strong jets.  It's an easy way to help ensure that a guy is clean.  I remember this one hot tub I was in... it felt almost like sitting on a fountain, and the top certainly had no complaints about cleanliness!   ;)

D
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 02:37:48 pm
This is one reason I like a hot tub (with bromine, of course) and strong jets.  It's an easy way to help ensure that a guy is clean.  I remember this one hot tub I was in... it felt almost like sitting on a fountain, and the top certainly had no complaints about cleanliness!   ;)

D

The last time I was in a hot tub, it was used as a rinsing pool. But I wouldn't have wanted the job of scrubbing it down later.

Brent
(Who appreciates a long, hot soak)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: David_CA on February 22, 2007, 02:40:39 pm
Well, I've never seen any chunks, so I guess the filters and chemicals are doing their thing!

D
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: whizzer on February 22, 2007, 02:48:30 pm

EEP !!

David !!  Damn !!

I coulda gone all YEAR without hearing that.

-Whiz
(who is happy that he has never entertained in his hot tub)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Strayboy74 on February 22, 2007, 03:05:20 pm
Brent
(Who has always relied on the hygene of strangers)

How very Tennessee Williams of you.

LOL

-joseph
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 03:34:13 pm
Well, I've never seen any chunks, so I guess the filters and chemicals are doing their thing!

D

I was thinking more of the congealing Elbow Grease ring near the top.

 ;D
Brent
(Who knows that not all lubes are water-soluable)
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: puertorico2006 on February 22, 2007, 09:20:33 pm
wow this thread has had some interesting posts since the last time i posted hahaha
Title: Re: Status question on Manhunt.net
Post by: GSOgymrat on February 22, 2007, 11:32:57 pm
YUCK!

Meth addicts, vomit, hot tubs with human excrement... not sexy, folks. I'm not feeling so bad about my boring Saturday nights.