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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: raider48 on July 30, 2006, 09:44:36 pm
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I need help here. I did a really stupid thing last night. Got drunk and went to another guy's house that I had been chatting with on the internet and ended up giving him head. He didn't cum in my mouth but I suppose there probably was so pre-cum. Did this for about 20 minutes or so. I also brushed my teeth about 20 minutes or so before going over there and used mouthwash, didn't see any blood. He said he was clean but who knows? I'm pretty freaked out right now over my stupidity. Any comments would be appreciated...
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Raider,
Performing fellatio without ejaculation carries a minuscule risk. The mouth is a very inhospitable place for hiv. Saliva actually inhibits hiv infection. It is very rare for hiv infection to take place in the mouth.
Your risk is so low, I wouldn't even recommend testing. You'd sooner win the lottery than become infected in this incident.
Morgan
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Morgan, thanks for the quick reply. This site is great as are the people on here. So you don't think I need testing? I hate the fact that I'm not smarter with this, I'm not a kid and should have been better informed and definetly made a better decision. I think rather than having anymore sex for awhile I'm going to educate myself first... I'm still sort of freaked out though, even though I'm reading through some other posts now and I do feel a bit better. Gosh I hope I can sleep, I didn't even lay down last night, I just paced all night... thanks
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Raider,
This site is an excellent place to get up to speed where hiv is concerned.
Morgan
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Raider,
I urge you to read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) and follow the links found there.
In the transmission lesson, studies concerning oral sex are discussed. There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but not for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one. This shows us two things. One, condoms are very effective for the prevention of hiv transmission. Two, oral sex is much lower risk than previously believed. We now have the evidence that oral sex is a very low risk activity where hiv transmission is concerned.
While you do not need to test over this specific incident, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.
If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.
If you do decide to test over this incident, wait at least six weeks because the vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test postive by that point.
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
Use condoms for intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.
Ann
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Thanks Ann for the reply, I will read the material right now...
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Do the same rules apply to use these, 12-13 weeks? Just curious and what are your thoughts as far as accuracy? Thanks
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Same rules apply. 12\13 weeks then test.
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How come there's so many opinions about the risk of oral sex? Like if if listen to the CDC it sort of puts me into the panic mode again, you would think they would know right? But honestly I put more stock in your opinions (maybe cause it's comforting) I dunno. Maybe I should quit searching the net. Maybe the are just covering their bases to error on the cautious side? thoughts?
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Raider,
I've merged your two new threads into your oringinal thread - where you should post all your addtional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines.
Thank you for your cooperation.
As for your question about oral, if you'd read the Transmission Lesson, you'd know the answer.
Ann
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There are "many" opinions because not every web site or even every organization updates their information regularly. Moreover, government-funded orgs like the CDC are political in nature, and the current political climate in the USA downplays the role of condoms in HIV prevention in favor of abstinence. Sadly, the CDC reflects this theorcratical position in many of it's STD/HIV related information, playing rather fast and loose with what passes for fact.
That's why sites like aidsmeds are so important. We rely on current, first-tiered peer reviewed information, and make NO risk assessment or HIV transmission assertion we cannot thoroughly document with ample evidence.
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I've read everything. Thanks for bringing me up to speed on everything, I appreciate everyones help as I'm sure everyone does. It does seem like certain websites definetly have their own agenda. What's weird is even allot of doctors seem to think like the CDC, or at least it seems like it. Maybe it's just not their specialty or something. Thanks to you guys for easing my fears (somewhat) with real life facts, at least I think I can eat a real meal for the first time in 48 hours..
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Is there a difference in accuracy between going to a clinic and the Home Access kit? Just wondered because I would rather do the home access if all is the same. I still have to pay at the clinic so it might even be cheaper to do the home access method.
I've been tested before at the clinic before and they took a vile of blood where as the home access on;y needs a few drops, I guess I'm sort of confused on why that is, if it's a different method or something.. Thanks for your help on here.
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If you are going to test I recommend that you use a clinic.
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Thanks for the response. Ultimatetly I will use the clinic. My plan was to maybe use the home access at like 6-8 weeks, I think more for peace of mind. I will eventualy go to the clinic because I want to be tested for all the STD's, but I'm kind of confused when to be tested for them, you know the waiting period. I could be tested at 13 weeks for everything, however it seems like a couple of them the sooner you catch them the better, so I'm in my research mode for the waiting period for all of them. I know my risk was considered minimal and it was suggested that I didn't even need testing, but I'm going to take the advice on here and start doing yearly checks anyway. If you or anyone has any input on the waiting period for the STD's that would be great in helping me figure out when I'm going....