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[jackdb91]

Good afternoon, everyone.

I have two queries:

Is there a risk of acquiring HIV through direct rubbing of the genitals without penetration but with the exchange of bodily fluids?

If my partner routinely undergoes blood tests, consistently yielding HIV-negative results, is it likely that I am also HIV negative? This assumes a monogamous couple without extramarital affairs.

Thanks you all !!

[Jim Allen]

so was this rubbing with this monogamous partner?

[Jim Allen]

I have not heard back, so I'll presume the rubbing was not within your "monogamous"  relationship.

Is there a risk of acquiring HIV through direct rubbing of the genitals without penetration but with the exchange of bodily fluids?

No, rubbing against each other isn't an HIV risk.

Of course, it remains a risk for plenty of easier-to-transmit STIs.

If my partner routinely undergoes blood tests, consistently yielding HIV-negative results, is it likely that I am also HIV negative?

So, your partner is regularly getting HIV screenings, and you are wondering if their non-reactive status means you don't have HIV?

The answer is. No.

Generally speaking, HIV is difficult to pass on even when all the conditions are perfect. You could have HIV and sex with your partner for years before passing it on, or they could be unlucky and acquire HIV from you after only one risk exposure.

Also, their test results don't mean they are negative today or will remain so in the future, and unless you keep them locked up in a basement 24/7, (I hope not), then you don't know what they get up to.

So, I'll leave you with the same message I always give when someone says they are in a relationship; If you engage in condomless sex with your partner, you are obviously at risk of acquiring HIV. In relationships, condomless sex is often based on trust or past test results; however, this does not prevent HIV, so if condomless sex does occur, you should consider testing more frequently.

Here's what you need to know to reduce your HIV risks:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier-acquired STIs. So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms; testing is the only way to know.

Kind regards

Jim

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[jackdb91]

Hi Jim,

Thank you for your prompt response!

No, the rubbing did not occur with my monogamous partner. It happened a couple of years ago with a girl from Italy whom I didn't know, so I am unsure of her HIV status. After the rubbing incident, I experienced secretions from my penis, and I promptly consulted a doctor. The doctor prescribed antibiotics but assured me that the contact was not considered risky, and therefore, an HIV test was unnecessary.

However, I recently underwent a routine check-up, and I am currently awaiting the results. The possibility of having been infected in the past is causing me considerable anxiety.

Could I be sure that my result will be negative? After this meeting I never had risky contact again.

Thanks and kind regards

[Jim Allen]

After the rubbing incident, I experienced secretions from my penis, and I promptly consulted a doctor. The doctor prescribed antibiotics but assured me that the contact was not considered risky, and therefore, an HIV test was unnecessary.

The doctor is correct its not an HIV risk and as you had no exposure there was no need to test outside of the yearly standard screening. Antibiotics cleared up the infection you picked up, sounds like it was most likely gonorrhoea (the clap).

Could I be sure that my result will be negative? After this meeting I never had risky contact again.

You did not get HIV from rubbing your penis against the Italian women. That much is certain. As for your results it depends, have you had any condomless intercourse with your partner or anyone else? Or have you been sharing syringes?

[jackdb91]

Jim,

The only person I've had unprotected sex with is my current girlfriend, who recently tested negative for HIV. I haven't shared syringes with anyone either.

Concerning the Italian woman, aside from rubbing, there was unprotected oral sex from both sides. Does this encounter also pose a risk?

This encounter with the Italian woman was a couple of years ago, and since then, the idea of getting an HIV test terrifies me. Every time I feel unwell, I panic, associating it with this past risky relationship and imagining that I'm infected.

Thanks !

[Jim Allen]

Hiya,

This encounter with the Italian woman was a couple of years ago, and since then, the idea of getting an HIV test terrifies me. Every time I feel unwell, I panic, associating it with this past risky relationship and imagining that I'm infected.

The relationship with the Italian women wasn't an HIV risk.

Concerning the Italian woman, aside from rubbing, there was unprotected oral sex from both sides. Does this encounter also pose a risk?

Not for HIV.

So receiving a blowjob lacks the conditions required for acquiring HIV; thus, it makes sense that after 40+ years of this pandemic in terms of BJs, there hasn't been a single documented case of HIV transmission to an insertive partner (the person being "sucked"). You will not be the world's first, and cunnilingus also isn't an HIV concern.

I've had unprotected sex with is my current girlfriend, who recently tested negative for HIV

That is the only HIV risk you have mentioned so far. I said it before, but I'll repeat it again.

Their test results don't mean they are negative today or will remain so in the future, and unless you keep them locked up in a basement 24/7, (I hope not), then you don't know what they get up to.

So, I'll leave you with the same message I always give when someone says they are in a relationship: If you engage in condomless sex with your partner, you are obviously at risk of acquiring HIV. In relationships, condomless sex is often based on trust or past test results; however, this does not prevent HIV, so if condomless sex does occur, you should consider testing more frequently.

the idea of getting an HIV test terrifies me

Not sure why, people not testing routinely is terrifying. Trust me I know how that ends.

Let me put it like this, if you get tested, then you know your HIV status and if positive you can start treatment and with treatment, you can live a long healthy, "normal" life... However, if you don't test and are living with HIV the untreated HIV will ultimately lead to your death or permanent disability.