WTF? with all these Prices

[denb45]

The price of Gas versus Printer Ink


All these examples do NOT imply that gasoline is cheap; it just illustrates how outrageous some prices are....

You will be really shocked by the last one!
(At least, I was...)


Compared with Gasoline......


Think a gallon of gas is expensive?





This makes one think, and also puts things in perspective.


Diet Snapple 16 oz $1.29 ... $10.32 per gallon


Lipton Ice Tea 16 oz $1.19 ..........$9.52 per gallon



Gatorade 20 oz $1.59 ..... $10.17 per gallon



Ocean Spray 16 oz $1.25 ......... $10.00 per gallon



Brake Fluid 12 oz $3.15 ...... $33.60 per gallon



Vick's Nyquil 6 oz $8.35 ... $178.13 per gallon



Pepto Bismol 4 oz $3.85 .. $123.20 per gallon



Whiteout 7 oz $1.39 ....... . $25.42 per gallon



Scope 1.5 oz $0.99 .....$84.48 per gallon




And this is the REAL KICKER...


Evian water 9 oz $1.49..$21.19 per gallon! $21.19 for WATER and the buyers don't even know the source

(Evian spelled backwards is Naive.)


Ever wonder why printers are so cheap?


So they have you hooked for the ink.
Someone calculated the cost of the ink at...............
(you won't believe it....but it is true........)
$5,200 a gal. (five thousand two hundred dollars)


So, the next time you're at the pump,be glad your car doesn't run on water, Scope, or Whiteout, Pepto Bismol, Nyquil or God forbid, Printer Ink!


Just a little humor to help ease the pain of your next trip to the pump...

And - If you don't read all of this
your muffler will fall off!!

Okay, your muffler won't really fall off...but, you might run out of toilet paper 
 

  
 

 

 
 

[DanMo]

DAMN!!! Those prices are CRAZY!

I HATE having to buy printer ink, it never seems to last long enough!

[phildinftlaudy]

I read part of those prices and shit my pants -
and then, to top it off, I realized after shitting my pants, that I didn't have any toilet paper  - so, I went out to the car to drive to the store and get some and my muffler fell off ---
go figure ---

I probably should have read the whole thing.

[Miss Philicia]

I couldn't tell you the price of a gallon of gas if you asked me.

[WillyWump]

I jsut got back from the store, and saw that Milk is now $4.78 gallon. My gas (diesel) is $3.79. Guess Im gonna ahve to start drinking Diesel (but dont worry, I wont smoke while im doing it)

-W

[hope_for_a_cure]

Milk is now $4.78 gallon

-W

Dude, that is off the charts!  What kind of milk are you buying?  You can get that stuff around here for a little less than 3 bucks/gallon. 

[WillyWump]

Dude, that is off the charts!  What kind of milk are you buying?  You can get that stuff around here for a little less than 3 bucks/gallon. 

Well that's what I thought, I couldnt believe it. It's the Oak Farms Brand that Ive drank for years. Walmart BRand was $2.78 but hell thats half water

[hope_for_a_cure]

I hear ya, stick with the good stuff from a dairy you trust.  I was gonna say, dont they still have cows in TX? 

[Miss Philicia]

Do you think prices on rentboy will go up too?

[hope_for_a_cure]

Oh honey!!  YES!  Not only are there increases in mileage and line item surcharges, they have the audacity to charge for early payoffs these days! 

[WillyWump]

Do you think prices on rentboy will go up too?

Dunno, but I know the price for San Antonio street corner latinos who speak no english have gone from $5 to $10. Fuckers, everyone taking advantage of the situation

-W

[skeebo1969]

   Wow, a gallon of Coke would only cost you a little over $378,000.

[leatherman]

coke-cola 24 oz @ $1.79 ... $9.55 a gallon

coke-cola 68 oz (2 liter) @ $1.25 ... $2.25 a gallon
              always refreshing and always a bargain

[mecch]

I live across the lake from Evian, France.  I think the water shipped around the world really does come from there, by the way. Though it's owned by Nestle if you look at the fine print.  Biggest food company in the world and not so eco friendly as we know.  If you live in or around Evian, you get it for free cause it runs out of a public fountain where you can fill up all you want.

I think the movement against bottled water is great. What a colossal ecological waste, plastic, shipping it, all those wasted bottles etc. etc.  Most places have pretty good tap water and it tastes great and its fresh.  

Switzerland has a lot of water, it runs non-stop out of fountains in many towns and you can drink it.

If I buy bottled water for some reason I try to get it from the most local bottling company.  At least it hasn't wasted tons of energy shipping it.

The Swiss post has a side business - they'll refill your ink cartridges for cheap. Also, people should buy it generic, online.  

[mecch]

No-name store brand champagne is 15-20 bucks a bottle.  

There's other good bubbly from non-champagne regions in France for only 10 bucks. Totally delicious.  So I guess you can have 2 buck bottles of coke or a bottle of champagne for 2x or 3x the price.  Funny.

Beer is cheap. Great store brands for 50 cents to a dollar - 50cl cans.

Some liquids still seem like a pretty good buy, all things considered.

I think its the carbon footprint that we should also consider.  Off season vegetables and fruits shipped around the world. They're often cheap but... Aren't we all paying for that sooner or later when the oil runs out cause we needed strawberries and asparagus all year round?

[BT65]

Milk here is about $2.24 a gallon.  And I use a Brita pitcher, which I replace the filter in every two months, and it's $!5 for 3 filters.  So, that's the cost of my water.  I fill up a water bottle and take it to work with me, so I don't buy plastic water bottles.

[denb45]

coke-cola 24 oz @ $1.79 ... $9.55 a gallon

coke-cola 68 oz (2 liter) @ $1.25 ... $2.25 a gallon
              always refreshing and always a bargain

Yup it sure is, way cheaper than coffee 10 oz can of that cost me $13.99 

[leatherman]

Yup it sure is, way cheaper than coffee 10 oz can of that cost me $13.99 

that would be $179 a gallon 

[WillyWump]

Check your local Dollar General...they have 2 litre cokes on sale (or did) for .25 cents. Yes 25 cents, limit 8. I normally dont drink Coke at all, but I do now

[denb45]

that would be $179 a gallon  

Tell me about, caffeine sure aint cheap in any form you want your fix in  

[hope_for_a_cure]

that would be $179 a gallon 

I will NEVER give up my coffee no matter how expensive it gets.  Every morning I have 4, maybe 5 mugs of the good stuff.  I may not do the designer clothes anymore but I insist on 'top shelf' coffee that is freshly ground then brewed.  Not the flavored stuff... just top of the line Colombian, Brazilian, or Jamaican.  Costa Rican is also good.

[denb45]

Check your local Dollar General...they have 2 litre cokes on sale (or did) for .25 cents. Yes 25 cents, limit 8. I normally dont drink Coke at all, but I do now

I like premium coffee, if I'm I'm gonna get my fix on might as well be the good stuff  

[denb45]

I will NEVER give up my coffee no matter how expensive it gets.  Every morning I have 4, maybe 5 mugs of the good stuff.  I may not do the designer clothes anymore but I insist on 'top shelf' coffee that is freshly ground then brewed.  Not the flavored stuff... just top of the line Colombian, Brazilian, or Jamaican.  Costa Rican is also good.

Dam James shit I'm com min over your house dear, and we can bounce of the walls on a caffeine high all day long  it drives poor Bob crazy, he hide the coffee one day just to be EVIL 

[hope_for_a_cure]

Dam James shit I'm com min over your house dear, and we can bounce of the walls on a caffeine high all day long  it drives poor Bob crazy, he hide the coffee one day just to be EVIL 

I would kill, destroy, and eliminate anything that gets in the way of my morning coffee fix!!!  LOL..just kidding.

I did let myself run out of it once (not on purpose) and when I woke up... and I wake up way early most of the time, I had to get in the car and go get some beans from the 24 hour PigglyWiggly.  I have this thing about putting evaporated milk in it too.  High maintenance coffee drinker here but everything else I usually encounter during my day I can deal with w/o getting too anxious about.

[leatherman]

Yes 25 cents, limit 8.

The mini-frig that I keep in the den, which I fill with nothing but Coke, is nearly empty, so I wil be shopping at Dollar Gen tomorrow!!

I did let myself run out of it once (not on purpose) and when I woke up...I had to get in the car and go get some beans from the 24 hour PigglyWiggly. 

To make sure I have never run out, I have even ignored sheriff warnings and gone out in blizzards searching for coke.

[denb45]

I would kill, destroy, and eliminate anything that gets in the way of my morning coffee fix!!!  LOL..just kidding.

I did let myself run out of it once (not on purpose) and when I woke up... and I wake up way early most of the time, I had to get in the car and go get some beans from the 24 hour PigglyWiggly.  I have this thing about putting evaporated milk in it too.  High maintenance coffee drinker here but everything else I usually encounter during my day I can deal with w/o getting too anxious about.

  Oh Bob likes coffee too just like I do, however, my Renal-Doctor tells me to start limiting it, he's right ya know after all it is a diarrectic  

[denb45]

The mini-frig that I keep in the den, which I fill with nothing but Coke, is nearly empty, so I wil be shopping at Dollar Gen tomorrow!! To make sure I have never run out, I have even ignored sheriff warnings and gone out in blizzards searching for coke.

  Yup, you are a true junkie 

[skeebo1969]

To make sure I have never run out, I have even ignored sheriff warnings and gone out in blizzards searching for coke.

which kind of coke are we talkin' bout here?  The $378,000 a gallon variety had me doing some funky shit too.

[denb45]

which kind of coke are we talkin' bout here?  The $378,000 a gallon variety had me doing some funky shit too.

  Heroin made me do things I never would have done before 

[leatherman]

Yup, you are a true junkie 

I quit smoking 743 days ago, so I had to have some vice. LOL

[denb45]

I quit smoking 743 days ago, so I had to have some vice. LOL

Good for you Mikie, nasty fucking habit, isn't it , I haven't smoked in over 15 yrs. 

[leatherman]

Good for you Mikie, nasty fucking habit, isn't it

oh, I only quit cause Ohio was raising the tax ago, and I was too freakin' poor to afford them. If I would ever win the lottery here in SC (of course, that means I'd have to actually play the lottery ), I'd go back to smoking in a flash. 

[mecch]

Tsk tsk what would Michele Obama think about you boys' Coke habits.

Well if the sugar isn't making you fat or diabetic, I bet it does at least keep your pipes clean.

Oddly Ive been told by heroine addicts that the drug does the same thing - preservative. Look at Keith Richards. Marianne Faithful (decent new album, by the way.)

[tednlou2]

I couldn't tell you the price of a gallon of gas if you asked me.

Wasn't it the first President Bush who got into trouble for not knowing how much gas costs?  Or, was it a gallon of milk?? 

I know it isn't popular to say, but when you think all that it takes to get oil out of the ground, shipped, refined, and then shipped to stations (not to mention all the trouble oil causes in the world), then the price of gas doesn't seem that bad.  I was just going through pix from 1996 and happened to get a gas station sign in the pic.  It said, "$1.76/gal".  When you think about how much food, natural gas, electricity, cable, etc has gone up since 1996, $3.55/gal here doesn't sound like that much out of line with everything else.  People in Europe pay $5-$6/gal, right? 

I've kept my gas and electric bills going back 10 years.  10 years ago, I paid around $120/mth for both electric and gas.  Now, in the same home, it is $250/mth.  Back then, I could leave all my outdoor Christmas lights on from dusk to dawn.  Now, even with most being LED, I have to set them on a 4 hour timer, or the bill will be $400.   

[Hellraiser]

In 1999 gas was 99 cents a gallon.

[Grasshopper]

DAMN!!! Those prices are CRAZY!

I HATE having to buy printer ink, it never seems to last long enough!

Don't buy brandname ink, but buy generic instead from webshops

[BT65]

I can take my ink cartridge to Walgreen's and get it refilled for $10.

[SunnyFlorida]

I think the movement against bottled water is great. What a colossal ecological waste, plastic, shipping it, all those wasted bottles etc. etc.  Most places have pretty good tap water and it tastes great and its fresh.

Truth. I don't buy bottled water unless I have to, and I keep empty bottles in my car to refill at a water fountain whenever I'm out there. Most tap water in the US is pretty good and we have a huge water filter/softener at the side of this house, plus a water filter underneath the sink that goes out to a special faucet next to the regular one. Good enough for me.

Also, I may add, New York City has the best tap water ever. It's clean and cold.

[leatherman]

I keep empty bottles in my car to refill at a water fountain

I do have to admit that I don't always drink just Coke. I have three water bottles, and two that snap onto my bike, that I refill and drink out of when I'm out doing work around the property.

I also have 2 24oz Coke bottles that I refill from the 2-liter bottles. I can't see wasting all that plastic, much less paying a buck 79 for 24 oz when I'm paying only a buck 25 for 68 oz.

[mecch]

What ever happened to 12oz cokes.  What ever happened to portion control in the US.

[SunnyFlorida]

What ever happened to 12oz cokes.  What ever happened to portion control in the US.

My theory is that it started when our parents started forcing us to eat everything on our plate - full or not - before we could even leave the table. That spawned a whole generation of overeaters, which in turn created their own. People started demanding more and more on their plates. I pretty much can't go out to a restaurant now without coming home with a doggy bag and that's saying something 'cause I'm a husky guy who eats a bit more than I should. o_O

[mecch]

Michelle Obama should campaign to get some cheap prices back on small portions.
I can understand that a huge container adds up to cheaper unit price, but should the huge container itself be cheaper than the small one?

[denb45]

I do have to admit that I don't always drink just Coke. I have three water bottles, and two that snap onto my bike, that I refill and drink out of when I'm out doing work around the property.

I also have 2 24oz Coke bottles that I refill from the 2-liter bottles. I can't see wasting all that plastic, much less paying a buck 79 for 24 oz when I'm paying only a buck 25 for 68 oz.

WOW, what would you do without Coca-Cola maybe drink Pepsi?  soda is too sweet for me, and I like my lifer-juice aka coffee BLACK 

[hope_for_a_cure]

I remember always just buying a quarter pound and then sitting on it!  That sure made the cost/oz easier to justify.  

Sams Club, Costco, and all the like are the result of that American need to buy and consume in bulk.  There is no portion control for most here.  I am guilty of that myself.

[Miss Philicia]

What ever happened to 12oz cokes.  What ever happened to portion control in the US.

The US is full of obese people that won't admit that they're obese, much less that it's their own fault.

[denb45]

I have at one time, when I 1st moved to ABQ both a Sams Club & Costco membership, but Bob & I only went to them a couple of times, and ended up giving a lot of the stuff to our neighbors, it just wasn't worth it, to buy in bulk like that, kinda a waste of money, our neighbors were very happy to get all this free stuff tho  

[denb45]

The US is full of obese people that won't admit that they're obese, much less that it's their own fault.

I think that obesity is genetic in some people, if you eat-to-live, and not live to eat, then you probably won't be obese   but, then again some people are just GLUTTONS and can't STOP   misery always likes company.....

[SunnyFlorida]

The US is full of obese people that won't admit that they're obese, much less that it's their own fault.

Truth. They'd rather go around in their little motorized scooters than actually stand up and do something about it. Denial isn't a river in Africa... :/

[GSOgymrat]

The US is full of obese people that won't admit that they're obese, much less that it's their own fault.

There is clinical research to support your statement. Many Americans believe themselves to be thinner than they actually are.

[denb45]

There is clinical research to support your statement. Many Americans believe themselves to be thinner than they actually are.

Well, I like a little meat on a person, something to hold-on-too, skinny doesn't really work for me, a bag of bones is still a bag of bones 

[GSOgymrat]

Well, I like a little meat on a person, something to hold-on-too, skinny doesn't really work for me, a bag of bones is still a bag of bones 

I agree. I'm into bears.

[Miss Philicia]

I think that obesity is genetic in some people

Well yeah, obese people always like to say this.  Take a room of 100 obese (mind you, I'm not talking folks that are 10 lbs. overweight) and you might find one that has an issue of genetics.

It's portion size at meals, eating out a lot, incessant snacking with processed foods in between the oversized meals, and an extreme lack of exercise because people drive everywhere because they live in suburban environments. 

[Miss Philicia]

I agree. I'm into bears.

"bear" is just another word for fat and hairy -- just say you're into fat, hairy men.

[SunnyFlorida]

Well, I like a little meat on a person, something to hold-on-too, skinny doesn't really work for me, a bag of bones is still a bag of bones 

Can't argue with you there. I usually don't mind thinner people, but as a bear cub myself, I enjoy something to hold onto as well!

[denb45]

"bear" is just another word for fat and hairy -- just say you're into fat, hairy men.

Oh dear, Bears have a dick too  at least the one's I know  

[hope_for_a_cure]

If I look down and cant see my feet anymore... does that mean I am now a bear? 

[SunnyFlorida]

Oh dear, Bears have a dick too  at least the one's I know  

Yes, I do... last time I checked. o_O

[Miss Philicia]

If I look down and cant see my feet anymore... does that mean I am now a bear? 

This is a bear -- everything else is just a disguise for FAT. 

[denb45]

If I look down and cant see my feet anymore... does that mean I am now a bear?  

Well, if your belly hangs out more than your dicky do, then you might be a bear, but, nothing wrong with that, due to my age, I'm considered a Daddy Bear, although my size, body weight & Height , and the lack of much furr except on my chest & goatee, I'm still a Bear..............WOOF lotta cubs in here, I like this  

[denb45]

This is a bear -- everything else is just a disguise for FAT.  

Yes,  WOOFERS  he is  miss P   but bears come in all shape & sizes just like dicks 

[hope_for_a_cure]

I look back on this time last year (getting over PCP and just starting on Atripla) and at that time I was way too thin.  I remember standing at the kitchen sink with my 501s on and reached up to get something out of the cabinet above, down to the floor my pants went in one fell swoop.  That aint gonna happen today with the little bit of belly that I have these days and I like having it when compared to being too thin.

[leatherman]

WOW, what would you do without Coca-Cola maybe drink Pepsi? 

ACK! The P-word is vulgar. We don't speak of that, or about sn@w, in my house.
In a world without Coke [swoon!], I'll just stop taking my meds and let nature solve the dilemma.

an extreme lack of exercise because people drive everywhere because they live in suburban environments.  

you whacked the nail on the head on that one.
except its not cars - it's TV and video games and children without proper supervision/instruction.

for the last 10 yrs while I've worked in the backyard and played in the pool, I noticed that I only see the neighborhood children for about 4 weeks. Every day for two weeks after school releases for the summer, those little buggers are everywhere - biking, running, playing, etc. Then I don't see a soul for the rest of summer. When school starts back, I see the kids out again every afternoon for about two weeks. If it wasn't for those weeks and the yellow buses every day, I'd wonder if people were even still having children.

[leatherman]

This is a bear -- everything else is just a disguise for FAT. 

he's hardly hairy enough for a bear. I have that much hair on my chest. LOL That's just a hot hunk

[denb45]

I look back on this time last year (getting over PCP and just starting on Atripla) and at that time I was way too thin.  I remember standing at the kitchen sink with my 501s on and reached up to get something out of the cabinet above, down to the floor my pants went in one fell swoop.  That aint gonna happen today with the little bit of belly that I have these days and I like having it when compared to being too thin.

  My otherhalf says I'm a bear, but he's more of a bear than me, he has furr all over his body, I don't, but yet in the gay bear community I'm still a bear to them, so, hey it is what it is James, don't over think the
concept dear 

[hope_for_a_cure]

I have a thing for hairy guys with a little meat on em.  Bears can be lots of fun as long as they dont snore too loudly when I am getting my 'bootie sleep'.

[denb45]

he's hardly hairy enough for a bear. I have that much hair on my chest. LOL That's just a hot hunk

Yes Mike, I would say that you are a bear too, I have proof of this, I've seen your pictures   like me, you are a leather bear  

[denb45]

I have a thing for hairy guys with a little meat on em.  Bears can be lots of fun as long as they dont snore too loudly when I am getting my 'bootie sleep'.

  well you won't like me, I'll snore right in your ear, and droll all over you, just ask my otherhalf Bob
he can verify THIS 

[GSOgymrat]

"bear" is just another word for fat and hairy -- just say you're into fat, hairy men.

I'm into fat, hairy men.

[denb45]

WOOOF  Ford, now that's what I'm takin bout   Thanks for the visual  

[Miss Philicia]

That man needs a good meth habit

[hope_for_a_cure]

I'm into fat, hairy men.

Hell yea!  Thats all man and he could drool, snore, lick, and pretty much anything he wanted to do ALL NIGHT LONG!!  HOT!

[denb45]

That man needs a good meth habit

or maybe a good shag   honey @ my age anything will do   he'd make a mighty fine sandwich for me & Bob  

[hope_for_a_cure]

He is a big guy but would not really say he is fat.  The recent youtube video posted here on AM of 'I smell like shit' is a fat dude.  The guy in GSO's post has muscles and big bone(s).  

[Miss Philicia]

Oh come on -- If a guy is that hairy but instead of being 30 lbs. overweight is a fit weight you don't call him a bear.  The fact remains, as I began the discussion, is that there's been an eroticization of FAT in the gay community, one that didn't exist 20 years ago.  They were just called fat, hairy men.  It's like straight men into Chubby Porn   Go buy a bag of Doritoes and masturbate next time.

[denb45]

OK, well then what would you call me then, @ 6'3 190lbs size 13d boots that's works out 6 days a week?
it's ok if you wanna call me fat   I still love ya dear    but Yes, I do agree with you in some degree some Fat guys have hijacked the whole bear thing ,just to fit in, Fat is still Fat honey  

[GSOgymrat]

OK, well then what would you call me then, @ 6'3 190lbs size 13d boots that's works out 6 days a week?
it's ok if you wanna call me fat   I still love ya dear  

6'3" and 190 lbs you are of normal weight according to BMI.

[denb45]

6'3" and 190 lbs you are of normal weight according to BMI.

Yup your correct Ford, but so are you, so are you 

[Miss Philicia]

I'm 6 ft and 180 lbs and I am 10 lbs. too fat, though my doctor tells me he doesn't want me to lose any weight.

Oh right, and I'm fairly hairy.  Should I post my leather picture again?

[denb45]

I'm 6 ft and 180 lbs and I am 10 lbs. too fat, though my doctor tells me he doesn't want me to lose any weight.

Oh right, and I'm fairly hairy.  Should I post my leather picture again?

My doctor told me NOT to gain any weight, said I was fine the way I'm, yes miss p PLEASE post some pictures of you being  pig in a sling, taking it wide & deep  I'm gettin off on that visual 

[hope_for_a_cure]

I would post my video but I would prolly get banned from the forums due to the explicit nature of it.  Been told I am more of a cub.  WTF!  I am just me.  I do wish I could get more of my butt back.  I am in a 'noassatall' situation since I lost so much weight last year and I want my tush back.

[GSOgymrat]

Oh right, and I'm fairly hairy.  Should I post my leather picture again?

Yes please.

Yup your correct Ford, but so are you, so are you  

I'm 5'9" and 180. Technically overweight. The most I have ever weighed is 189. Back in 2002 I dropped down to 135. After an endoscopy, colonoscopy and all kinds of tests the doctors decided it was HIV itself affecting my ability to absorb food. Combined with my lipoatrophy I looked horrible and strangers were asking what was wrong with me. I changed HIV meds and the weight started to slowly come back.

[denb45]

Yes please.

I'm 5'9" and 180. Technically overweight. The most I have ever weighed is 189. Back in 2002 I dropped down to 135. After an endoscopy, colonoscopy and all kinds of tests the doctors decided it was HIV itself affecting my ability to absorb food. Combined with my lipoatrophy I looked horrible and strangers were asking what was wrong with me. I changed HIV meds and the weight started to slowly come back.

FORD, my otherhalf Bob is the same BMI as you 5'9" and 173, so I wouldn't say your Fat by any means  
but that's just my own opinion   if you have muscle that's not considered overweight to me......Fat is still Fat, and muscle is still muscle, to me it's NOT the same thing 

[GSOgymrat]

I would post my video but I would prolly get banned from the forums due to the explicit nature of it.

[hope_for_a_cure]

You guys (David, Ford, and Dennis) are at an ideal weight so dont change a thing.  Summer is coming and some of that will drop off anyhow with the increase in outside activities. 

[denb45]

You guys (David, Ford, and Dennis) are at an ideal weight so dont change a thing.  Summer is coming and some of that will drop off anyhow with the increase in outside activities. 

  I don't want it to drop off anymore, if i get too thin, my dick will be way too big for my otherhalf to play with, he already has a problem with me now 

[hope_for_a_cure]

if i get too thin, my dick will be way too big for my otherhalf to play with, he already has a problem with me now 

Now Dennis, you know teasing the readers on this forum is not nice.  Well, you are from LA... remember that survey??

[GSOgymrat]

I don't want it to drop off anymore, if i get too thin, my dick will be way too big for my otherhalf to play with, he already has a problem with me now 

As they say in the country:

when ya got a big tool, ya need a big shed.

[denb45]

Now Dennis, you know teasing the readers on this forum is not nice.  Well, you are from LA... remember that survey??

@ 5'9 173 Bob isn't small, both of us aren't and that is what scares the hell outta all these queens in ABQ  
not to mention we look like 2 gay bikers, and most of the guys, can't seem to deal with that   Oh and by the way Bob is from NY, he's an upstate farm boy from Water Town NY   and I'm a central valley farm boy
from Sacramento, Ca.....

[Miss Philicia]

You guys (David, Ford, and Dennis) are at an ideal weight so dont change a thing.  Summer is coming and some of that will drop off anyhow with the increase in outside activities. 

If I didn't have lipo I would agree, but mine is extreme on my legs and ass so NO weight disperses there, it all goes in my trunk area so it looks off balance.  Not a lot because I'm not actually fat, but it makes me look fatter than I am, if that makes sense.

[WillyWump]

I don't think I could be fat if I tried, and trust me I've tried. Speaking of which I made a chocolate cake with Choc Icing tonight and I just downed a 1/4 of it.

[Miss Philicia]

Forgot to post this for the BEAR lovers (SORRY HE'S NOT FATTER THOUGH) 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FNQZRa6tbQ

[denb45]

If I didn't have lipo I would agree, but mine is extreme on my legs and ass so NO weight disperses there, it all goes in my trunk area so it looks off balance.  Not a lot because I'm not actually fat, but it makes me look fatter than I am, if that makes sense.

You look marvelous darling  I've seen pictures and proof 

[denb45]

Oh Willy you sound like you really have a sweet tooth there young man 

[Miss Philicia]

I don't think I could be fat if I tried, and trust me I've tried. Speaking of which I made a chocolate cake with Choc Icing tonight and I just downed a 1/4 of it.

A mix from a box and icing from a can no doubt.

[leatherman]

I made a chocolate cake with Choc Icing

mmm. That reminds me, I have a Texas Sheet Cake recipe for next year's cookbook. I just love it's fudge topping.

[mecch]

I'm in my late 40s and I always understood "bear" means: hairy guy with some flesh, at least, or fat. At least a belly. Could be a barrel chest and massive muscles or could be fat.  

And yes, they are eroticized that's the point!!!

Bears existed in the 80's that's for sure. In limited numbers. It seems to me that the oldstyle 3 basic body types - ectomorph (skinny), mesomorph (muscly), endomorph (fatty) - are useful enough.

Seems to me that skinny and muscly have always been valued and eroticised, in the 70's 80's and on up to now.  That Bears came into their own in the 90's and the 00's is a good development.  Everyone should have the opportunity to be considered sexy and desireable, what's wrong with that?

I get the point that obesity is a health issue and being considered sexy (cause a bear) is a bad way to justify a health issue.  But not all bears are wallowing in their bearness nor being gluttons to the honey pot in order to be hot.  

I certainly know enough men who, after a certain, age, starve themselves to retain the skinny "ephebe" look.  
It doesn't really fool ANYONE except each other and their silly fetishization of thinness - cause it looks "young".  
("I still fit into my 28's" -- oh please barbara don't you have anything else to offer at 45 years old!)

And certainly others who through steroids and constant bodybuilding retain the semblance of a young footballer's mass and power.  

So those can ALSO be unhealthy lifestyles resulting in somewhat still eroticised images.

So in the end, nobody wants to promote obesity, but once someone is a fatty, thank god some other people find this attractive and hot.  

The only people calling "Bears" an excuse for sloth or obesity are probably ectomorphs or mesomorphs who have sour grapes, or don't want to share the spotlight. Sour grapes because bears can achieve hotness much easier than others can achieve slim youthfulness or hot hunkiness, and bears can maintain it longer.  I'm not a bear but I think its a VERY clever and positive spin on things by the bears.

On that note:  Gymrats pic IS a bear.  Miss P - your pic is of a stud - a hairy mesomorph.  Nothing bear there.

[Dachshund]

Does a bear shit in the woods?

[WillyWump]

Ectomorphs are hot

[Miss Philicia]

So let me get this straight -- meech has decreed it OK to eroticize guys that are so overweight they have a very large chance of cardiovascular disease?  What's next girl -- stump fucking?

And yes, the muscular hairy Jew is a bear -- same amount of hair as Steve Kelso.  Next. (I really hope you don't teach sociology).

[denb45]

So let me get this straight -- meech has decreed it OK to eroticize guys that are so overweight they have a very large chance of cardiovascular disease?  What's next girl -- stump fucking?

Stump fucking can be fun, so don't dis a stump fucker, I have met a lot of em' and they are HOT
I like the Iraqi Army boys, Bob & I do know a few of em' nice guys and GREAT SEX

I'm still looking for a 4 foot 2 midget w/ big dick to stand and a box and plow my ass raw, but I'm not having any luck finding any 

[Miss Philicia]

On that note, I just lost 5 lbs.

... right on time for my date with JewishPozMan tonight.

[denb45]

On that note, I just lost 5 lbs.

... right on time for my date with JewishPozMan tonight.

Good for you Miss P, have fun, you only live once dear 

[CaptCarl]

Well, I like a little meat on a person, something to hold-on-too, skinny doesn't really work for me, a bag of bones is still a bag of bones 

Agreed. But still there is a limit. Like if a guy can't, y'know, like see his dick (especially if it's hard), cuz his belly is in the way, that's a bit much.

CaptCarl

[denb45]

Agreed. But still there is a limit. Like if a guy can't, y'know, like see his dick (especially if it's hard), cuz his belly is in the way, that's a bit much.

CaptCarl

Yeah, and that's unhealthy too 

[mecch]

Call a fatty a fatty if thats your take on it, but don't begrudge a bear his hot-factor.  I get the point that fat can be unhealthy.  i said so. 

But everyone has a right to be considered desirable and to feel desireable.  All I'm saying is that its too different points. 

Lord knows both heteros and homos, men and women, suffer enough from the tyranny of standards of beauty.

I have a very "Rubenesque" friend who is considered the bombe by Dominican men.  Good for her!  Snotty white Wall Street sharks look right through her.

I think we've goon off topic! 

[CaptCarl]

Call a fatty a fatty if thats your take on it, but don't begrudge a bear his hot-factor.  I get the point that fat can be unhealthy.  i said so. 

Meech-
   I would not ever be so rude or cruel as to call someone a name like "fatty" Never have and never will. For the record, I grew up a very fat kid, and didn't really lose any wieght until well into high school. Got shit ALL the time for being fat too, I know what it's like, I've been there, and remember very well what it feels like... My father, whom I love very much, now weighs well in excess of 500 pounds. It bothers me that he's so heavy due to the health factors. I would never ridicule him for it, and I have stopped speaking to my brother partly because that's all he ever does.
   Finally, my partner is a Bear, and is very hot. I agree completely with Dennis that I prefer there be something to hold onto.
   Please stop putting words into other people's mouths.

CaptCarl

[mecch]

"bear" is just another word for fat and hairy -- just say you're into fat, hairy men.

......

This is a bear -- everything else is just a disguise for FAT. 

I was referring to my reading of Miss P's references to FAT, cause I thought she was implying that bears (of the fat variety) are FAT first and foremost, and thus do they deserve their current crest of hotness.

Maybe I misread that.

He's not the only one.  I have a couple of friends (aging thin guys) who are always cutting on the bear identity, bear nites in discos, etc etc, incredulous that bears achieved a hotness moment in the gay zeitgeist.

To each his own.  

[denb45]

I like Hairy beefy Men  



He'd be great if he was 4 foot 5 or shorter

[CaptCarl]

I like Hairy beefy Men  



He'd be great if he was 4 foot 5 or shorter

Don't care about his height, I'd bang him. More than once too

CaptCarl

[WillyWump]

Don't care about his height, I'd bang him. More than once too

CaptCarl

blech, about a 100 pounds too heavy

[Miss Philicia]

blech, about a 100 pounds too heavy

It's called Girth & Mirth, baby -- get in on the hottest trend.

[denb45]

blech, about a 100 pounds too heavy

Dear, I didn't post him for YOU, so you don't have to like em'   I gonna hog-tie both you and miss P
and bring over about 10 Biker Daddy Bears, to fuck the both of you SILLY, for HOURS   I',ll make men outta the both of ya'll yet   you won't think about being a Nelly queen ever again

[Miss Philicia]

Whatever girl, you claim to like bears but in another thread you got super prissy about rimming a man with a hairy ass.  Little internal conflict playing out there if you ask me.  I'm the last to run away from body hair, I just don't like beached whales.

[hope_for_a_cure]

10 Biker Daddy Bears

Now that would be a fantasy come true.  

[denb45]

Whatever girl, you claim to like bears but in another thread you got super prissy about rimming a man with a hairy ass.  Little internal conflict playing out there if you ask me.  I'm the last to run away from body hair, I just don't like beached whales.

Are beach whales even human    I'm not a girl @ least the last time I looked between my legs   I didn't have a pussy...

[hope_for_a_cure]

in another thread you got super prissy about rimming a man with a hairy ass. 

I remember that too!  LOL....my ass was being discussed in that thread at some point....something about lemon grass and lavender led to that.  I broke out the honey oatmeal scrub today.  

[denb45]

I remember that too!  LOL....my ass was being discussed in that thread at some point....something about lemon grass and lavender led to that.  I broke out the honey oatmeal scrub today.  

did u shave for me   The bears I know have shaved asses   and I aint talking about the Buns.....

[CaptCarl]

blech, about a 100 pounds too heavy

I guess we wall can't be on the Twinkie Diet....

CaptCarl

[hope_for_a_cure]

did u shave for me  The bears I know have shaves asses 

Hot wax baby!  I had to get two of my hunky straight neighbors over here to help out because of those hard to reach spots.  They thought they were coming over to help me move a rug.... SURPRISE!!

[denb45]

Hot wax baby!  I had to get two of my hunky straight neighbors over here to help out because of those hard to reach spots.  They thought they were coming over to help me move a rug.... SURPRISE!!

ah huh, a str8 razor and a leather strap on a wet ass works wonders  much more fun 

[hope_for_a_cure]

ah huh, a str8 razor and a leather strap on a wet ass works wonders  much more fun 

I'm just glad dingleberry season ended years ago!  No matter how much fun is to be had, that sorta screeches things to a halt. 

[denb45]

I'm just glad dingleberry season ended years ago!  No matter how much fun is to be had, that sorta screeches things to a halt. 

especially copious anal warts and skin-tags, gotta get them taken care of 1st 

[hope_for_a_cure]

especially copious anal warts and skin-tags, gotta get them taken care of 1st 

Self surgery?  Hmmmmm... while not advised by most it does work in emergency situations.  I just told the fellas that those were birthmarks and to go grab another couple of brews from the fridge.  They bought it!  Whew... that was close. 

[leatherman]

10 Biker Daddy Bears

w00t! that's much better than those stupid 10 Lords a-leaping

[mecch]

Speaking of bears:

Boy skis into bear den, lives to tell tale


http://www.gadling.com/2011/03/30/boy-skis-into-bear-den-lives-to-tell-tale/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fgadling+%28Gadling%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

A 12-year old Swedish boy has quite a tale to share after he accidently skied into a bear den last Friday, much to the ire of the inhabitant, who was home at the time.