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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: kilani45 on June 01, 2006, 11:25:07 am
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hi ann and everyone .... i am the one who tested neg at 10.5 weeks from an exposure that you guys said it was unlikely to have caused an infection............ you guys said a 10.5 week neg result is extremely encouraging and will not change ...... however i know you guys dont discuss symptoms however in my part of the world there is no such thing as an std doctor .... so i went to a urologist who gave me a urine analysis and a semen test and a physical exam all were fine ..... is this engoh to eliminate stds or not.... if not then im going to have to travel to niebouring country to do those tests....i willl also do my elisa also iam 29 years old .... please tell me what you think ... and any words of encouragement before my final elisa....
thank you........... ; >:( :'(
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Given that you had a low to no risk exposure to begin with, that the average time to seroconversion is 22 days and all but the smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will do so within 4-6 weeks after an exposure, your negative test result is more than just encouraging. I expect you will continue to test negative.
As for other STDs, have you had any symptoms which suggest you picked up anything? What did your doctor say when you went for the various tests?
It sounds like you're just super anxious and your head is just messing with you.
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Kiliani,
You were told repeatedly in your thread in the old forum (http://www.aidsmeds.com/Fusetalk/messageview.cfm?catid=4&threadid=30990&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=) that your 10.5 week negative is highly unlikely to change.
As for the tests you did with the urologist, without knowing what he specifically tested for we have no way of knowing if you need further testing. You need to ask the doctor who ran the tests.
Ann
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hi andy
first thanks for taking the time to answer my question and i really appreciate it .... the reason i went to see this doctor is that a while ago i had pain in mytesticles .... he did these tests and said theres no problem but when i looked at the test report they didnt say example chlamidia neg ... it said no bacteria etc.... my question will stds show from these tests the doctor said yes ...but iwant your opinion on this.... i still have pain in my neck and undermy armpit .... also when i went to pick up my 10.5 neg elisa the doctor at the lab asked when my last exposure was and i explained everything in detail .. he said it could be psychological or something else very unlikely to be hiv...........please i live ina very conserrvative society and sex here is very much frowned upon .... thats why i might travel next door to these tests .... if i need to .... beleive me andy a person who is diagnosed with hiv in this place would be lucky to be left alone let alone keep their job or even live normaly....
thanks
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Kiliani,
The doctor knows what tests he ran on you, we don't. We cannot give you an opinion when we don't have the facts. If I were you, I'd believe your doctor.
And stop worrying about hiv. Your 10.5 week test isn't going to change.
Ann
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hello Ann and everyone,
i still have a week to go to take my final test i am trying to focus and keep busy stay positive...... and i learned alot from you and from this experience the window period is hell on earth each day is slower than the next ... if it wasnt for your forums only god knows what i would of done .. i had no hope b4 .... with the neg 10 week result i am breathing a sigh of relief ........... i am starting to take my rottweilers for walks i never seen them during the first month and half ......... anyways my question is it true that the younger the person the faster that person will seroconvert assuming that they are not iv drug users and are not on any kind of therapy.................. :-*
thanks kilani
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anyways my question is it true that the younger the person the faster that person will seroconvert assuming that they are not iv drug users and are not on any kind of therapy
Kiliani,
I have never seen a study that would prove or disprove the theory on young age making a person seroconvert quicker. I do know, however, that the vast majority of people of ANY age will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks.
Let us know when you get your confirmatory negative result.
Ann
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Kiliani,
You have a better chance of winning the lottery then seeing your 10.5 week negative status change. Seriously. So relax.
Morgan
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thanks morgan
i think that my symptoms are in my head although sometimes paranoia hits me so hard and overwhelms me ......i have no where to release that pressure but on your forum...... assuming my partner was infact infected .. how likely is 3seconds of penetration would cause an infection.. i also dont think i went in all the way maybe a couple of centimetres.... thanks
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thanks morgan
i think that my symptoms are in my head although sometimes paranoia hits me so hard and overwhelms me ......i have no where to release that pressure but on your forum...... assuming my partner was infact infected .. how likely is 3seconds of penetration would cause an infection.. i also dont think i went in all the way maybe a couple of centimetres.... thanks
Honey,
If you're feeling paranoid (technically an unrealistic fear of persecution, but whatever) then you need to seek help far more comprehensive than what we can give you here. I mean take a look at your last question, "3 seconds of penetration" and "2 centimetres" -- really? If you have the details down that concisely then I wonder why you need us?
Seek the services of a mental health professional.
MtD
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matty
i was expecting some kind of risk assesment ...... i am just a guy concerned about his health and his families health ... i thought you guys were here to help .... your colleagues ann, andy, morgan were and still are extremely helpful why cant you be like them .... i think you should learn from them l ......
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Kilani, you just seem to continue listening to scary stuff your mind is coming up with and sifting everything through an HIV jitters mentaility. As long as you continue to indulge in that behavior it doesn't seem to make any difference what we tell you.
After a negative at 10.5 weeks, you're all but guaranteed to continue to test negative.
Any questions about symptoms and other test information should be directed to your doctor.
You need to make a serious effort to re-focus your attention on staying productively busy during the rest of your waiting time.
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matty
i was expecting some kind of risk assesment ...... i am just a guy concerned about his health and his families health ... i thought you guys were here to help .... your colleagues ann, andy, morgan were and still are extremely helpful why cant you be like them .... i think you should learn from them l ......
I'll never be as nice as Andy, Ann and the other one but that's part of my charm babe. I guess I'm just a mean old misanthrope. Nevertheless, I have to say that if you really are so concerned about your health and that of your family, you'd follow Andy's advice and take this up with your doctor.
Kisses,
MtD
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hi guys
i know that i should be relaxed and i shouldnt worry because the odds are in my favour .... but please where i live it is not a possibilty to just find a doctor and tell them about your hiv fear or test or whatever the coomunity i live in is so small to even find a shrink to help you through the bad times ...... the 10.5 week and the 8 week test were done in a different place .... i traveled 1100 kms ...... to do them so please .... take it easy on me ... and also everything you tell me is highly appreciated ...... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ i keep asking the same question because you tell me that i have to confirm at the 13week mark and i already made an apponitment for next week and i hope you and are correct ..... and i hope my fears are just unfounded .. i realy do ..
thank you and take it easy .............
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hi everyone,
i just spoke to my doctor and told him about my recent tests ... his conclusion was that he sees no reason to think that my symptoms are hiv related .... he thinks that the pain under my armpit is most probaly from the severe infection that i had weeks ago and that the glands take time to go back to their normal size and said that it is normal...... i also told him that those are the only symptoms that i have... is this a good assesment by this doctor?
thank you
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Kilani,
At this point, yes. It certainly isn't indicative of hiv infection,
Morgan
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You have a relatively short time to get through until your final test. Of course that time may seem huge to you. It can go far more quickly than you may imagine at this moment if you get serious about staying productively busy instead of fretting and frankly, feeling sorry for yourself.
Stay busy including physically with some exercise (even just walking daily) and you will be amazed at the difference, no kidding.
There is a whole world going on outside of your head, so look around and enjoy it.
Ultimately it's clear we all expect you to come out of this ok.
Cheers,
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thanks everybody ........ the world cup kicks off today so i will get my mind to focus on the football ;) than hiv
take care.........
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lately i have been suicidal and i know its stupid to think like that ..............i just cant imagine that i threw away my life so easily ..... i will do my best to stay busy and productive ................... thanks
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if you are feeling suicidal, you should immediately go to your local emergency room and tell them what you are feeling.
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hi Ann and everyone,
first thanks for your previous insights ... i have been to the local Dr and informed him that i still have abit of pain under my armpit and in my chin.... and i also informed him that i had this pain on and off since week 7 ..... i tried to let go of this but its not working what could this pain be ....can it be hiv2 .... i didnt ask at the clinics where i did the tests if they checked for all strains .....the dr had very vague information about hiv i mean i know alot more than he does ........... i also read that anal carries a big risk ..... going back to the exposure i really dont think that i pnetrated i was pushin trying to go in i pulled out as soon as i heard a pop..ok i was drunk but i drove home etc..... it must of been a second or so... i am willing to pay the price for what i did and take it on the chin but i need to know what i am up against .... i mean can it be nothing at the end .... you and the drs say one thing and my body tells me something else............................
cheers .............
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kilani,
You know we can't diagnose you over the internet.
I would suggest you go first thing next week and get your conclusive result. It's not going to change from your last test result, but it would seem that it is the only thing that will put your mind to rest.
I'm fully, totally expecting you to collect another negative result.
Ann
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so from what i understand from you that the symptoms i have are not hiv related ...... thank you Ann
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hi Ann and everone..
i thank you so much for your previous posts they have really kept me sane during the last 4 months ...your posts stopped me from doing stupid things to myself ... i only have you guys to thank because there is so much conflicting information out there..... i decided not to do the final elisa in this country because there is a slight chance of partial quarantine .... i am just going to travel next door have some fresh air and do it rhere .. i still have needle pain under my armpit and in my jaw thats been there since week 6 no fever ..... thats the only keeping from doing the test here ... my question has there ever been anyone on this forum who had similar symptoms to mine and ultimatly tested negative are my symptoms in any way indictive of hiv infection .... would you take the chance and test here ... i benefited and learned so much from everyon of and i really wish you all the best ...........
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There are no symptoms that are indicative of HIV.
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Kilani,
You've been reading these forums long enough now to know full well that we see people with symptoms all the time who turn out to be conclusively negative.
I've yet to see an insertive partner test positive after a condom break and I doubt you will be the first.
Just go get that test done asap so you can collect your conclusive negative and put this episode behind you.
Ann
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hi Ann
thank you very much for being so helpful........... i today went to the clinic that gave me the 10.5 negative test and absulotely reassured me that he used a 4th generation elisa ...he said that it is the latest test available today and that he saw that it was conclusive ... what do you think ... please tell me what you think ... i am going on holiday this week and i really want to enjoy it ...... thank you :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Kiliani,
You've already been told your test result wasn't going to change. That's even more certain with a 4th generation test.
Go enjoy your holiday. You do not have hiv.
Make sure you take a supply of condoms with you, and make sure you use them correctly so they don't break on you. Refresh your condom knowledge by reading through those links in my signature line.
Ann
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;) ;) ;) ;)dear ann ,
thank you so much for your help .. you made me go through the last months with out doing something stupid to my self .. i am going to take another elisa just to kill any doubts in my mind ... i wish everyone a healthy and long productive life ........
Ann you are an angel and you deserve to go to heaven for helping so many others like me... thanks ill let you know the results of my final test.... :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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hi everybody,
i went to the clinic a week ago before i went off for holiday and i tested for hiv and many other things .. anyways i left my number and i told them call only if theres good news .... and its been 3days and still no word i am really worried and its destroying my hliday ..... jkintal2 what do you think .... should i wait or go home or what ...
please help i am freaking .....
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The clinic will call you if you are positive to return to the clinic.
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kiliani,
Read this thread from top to bottom again. None of the things we said will change. Your 10.5 week negative result is not going to change. You do not have hiv.
Forget about hiv and enjoy your holiday. If you have intercourse with anyone, use a condom and you'll be fine. Refresh your knowledge of condom use by reading the links in my signature line.
You are hiv negative.
Ann
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hi Ann and everyone,
i promised myself that i will get off the computer and get on with my life but i just found out that my wife is pregnant at 6weeks .. the clinic asked her to have blood test including hiv as it is part of their routine .. she will take the test tomorrow if the result is negative... will that be more reassurance as i am her only sexual partner... i am just worried because i have been feeling very dizzy and a sore throat for days now....are these symptoms typical for hiv...
thank you i am doing my best to get on with my life ...
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hi everybody,,,
went to the clinic today for my wife's tests for hepatits and hiv ... after 4 agonising hours she got a negative result i feel a sense of relief.......... i wonder what you guys think... any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.....
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kili,
What's there to think? You and your wife are both hiv negative. No big surprise or mystery there.
It't time you moved on with your life.
Ann
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cheers Ann ...... its just its our first baby and i am looking forward to being a father and its a great feeling thats why i have been feeling anxious .... thanks for your support ........ i promise to stay off the net untill i have a rational question to ask or if there's something i need to learn about.........
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Kili,
Having your first baby can be an anxious time - that's natural. However, now that you have ruled hiv out of the picture, there's other things you should be worrying about - like what colour to paint the nursery and what you're going to name the little blighter.
I don't expect to see you back here so... good luck with the baby and don't forget, this is supposed to be a happy time in your life, not one overshadowed by worries over something you don't have.
Ann
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hello Ann, Andy and everyone here....
i have been seeing a councelour and she advised me that the only thing thats permantly going to end this fear is to get a final test ... so i did yesterday at exactly 8 months after exposure ...... i will receive the result in a few hours time ... i need just need one final support or push just to get through the next few hours.. you can not imagine how much of a difference it will make for me ....
thank you and god bless........
kilani
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I sure hope you will be willing to get on with your life when you collect the inevitable negative test result.
Life presents challenges enough without you spending one second more on this unwarranted concern.
Cheers,
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Ann Andy and everyone else on aidsmeds...
you guys were right all along i just got a negative hiv 1-2 at 8 months after exposure. it made me feel how easily the mind can pull tricks on someone .... i feel so much better thanks to all your patience and kind words..... you are all in my prayers good luck and i hope everyone here a healthy productive and long life .....
kilani
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hi Ann, Andy...
Thanks for your support i have excepted my 8 month hiv1/2 test as conclusive atleast thats what i have convincing myself to do .... today i have a rash under my armpit that keeps itching when i looked at it it was red and i just feel uncompftorble in that area on both my armpits .... i also feel very thirsty all day .....
i also took hepatytis and a blood picture ... and everything was fine the blood picture was good hemoglobin and everything was fine ... do i need to go for syphilis or other things .... i have been off the internet and i have been spending all my time at the office trying to make up the 8 months i spent worrying ................plz advise me on my next step ...
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Seek the help of a mental health professional to find the reason to why you have put yourself through this for no reason.
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Kili,
People get rashes. People who are hiv negative get rashes. Not every rash or other ailment has anything to do with hiv. In fact, most don't.
Your next step? Go to your doctor and show him your rash. Also ask your doctor for a referal to a counselor so you can get to the bottom of why you equate every little twinge in your body with hiv, when it couldn't possibly be, seeing as how you are conclusively hiv negative.
You also need to stop coming here everytime your body feels, looks or acts funny. Go to your doctor instead. We cannot diagnose you over the internet, as you have been repeatedly told. There's nothing more we can do for you here.
Ann
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Hi Ann Andy Rapid rod and everyone'
i took your advice and went to the doctor and showed him the rash .. he said it was probaly the deodrant or something of that sort he said it was nothing to worry about .. however i told him about my constant diziness and imbalance .. he transfered me to an ENT doctor who examined me and informed me that i need surgery to remove tissue that is blocking my my nasal air passage .. he informed me that this passage is blocking the sufficient oxygen from reaching the lungs therefore not enough oxygen reaches the brain which causes diziness and all sorts of problems..my question he booked me for surgery on wednesday and asked me to come on tuesday for a blood test and when i asked what tests the nurse told me for hiv and hepatyits..
1 why does he test me for hiv...
2 i heard on of the nurses say that the rapid test is not reliable and that the only reliable test is antibodies that takes 2days...is this true
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The rapid test is reliable if taken at the correct time. The nurse was incorrect.
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1. he probably did HIV and hepatitis testing because you are having surgery. Some of the doctors in my area do that.
2. The rapid test is a valid test. The nurse was incorrect. In the event of a positive result on a rapid test, it is still recommended to confirm with standard serology tests, but you take the test in the proper time, it is very reliable.
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hi ann and all....
i am not gonna bore you with the same questions over and over again... i realise i have a problem and i think its ocd or something of that nature and i want to do something about it ...
1 does counselingHELP
2 do you know people that got counceling and became better
i just cant shake this off .. i am supposed to be happy because my wife is about to have our first child soon .. and my feelings and mood has suffered greatly .. i have also lost so much money on testing abroad because i cant do it here at home because they lock up people with hiv.. so idid alot of traveling with all the expenses tickets hotels and spending money all that effected my financil situation..
again do you think counselling can help me 100% ... please anyone here that has/had the same problem can you give me any advice tips whatever anything ... Ann anyone????? :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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Kili,
Yes, counseling can work - if you are serious about working on yourself and put the time and effort in. It's also important to find a therapist you feel comfortable with.
And yes, I know plenty of people who have benefitted from counseling/therapy, myself included.
Ann
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i just have one question
my latest test test said hiv 1-2 NEG ABS.. how do i know that my test was done using the new technology not the old ones that were used during the 80s.... thanks merry christmas and happy new year
kilani
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Because you tested for 1 and 2. The first test couldn't test for 2.
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thanks rod for the fast reply ... so is it safe to say that my test was done using new technology...i did it in the same city where those nurses got the death penalty for injecting 360 young children with hiv intentialy ...maybe you heard it on the news....
kilani
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hi friends
my dearest Ann you are a reason i am alive thank you so much i wish i can hug you and thank you i did counselling a few monthes ago and i am totally over the hiv thing ..... it helped me so much i just want to tell you that i was blessed with a baby boy it totally changed my life to the better couldnt of done it with out your patient help Ann..... i hope you are healthy and good ... everyone Rapidrod , Andy Matty and Ann thank you you are doing a great job and i hope god rewards you......................
thank you kilani
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You're welcome, Kil. Glad to help.
Now get outta here! ;)
Ann
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hi there
sorry to bother you again buti have question for my friend who does not speak english ...
he has just arrived from thailand and saw a sex worker she performed protected oral .. but before that she gave him arough massage to the point where she scrached him with her nails twice at the butt cheek near the anus ..it bled a little bit her hands did not have bleed on them...is this considered a hiv exposure ....
thank you ;;;;;hope everyone is good....
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Your friend, eh?
Well you've been here long enough to know that your "friend" was not at any risk of HIV because a sex worker scratched his butt cheek.
Seriously.
MtD
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hi ann and everybody ...
i have a question well my little brother does ... he was breaking up a fight between a guy confirmed to be hiv + and hepatisis+(drug addict) .... after he stopped the fight he found his right hand covered with blood from the infected guy ....im talking really covered ... he had a cut on the same hand but luckily it was covered with a couple of plasters ....what is his risk from contracting either hiv or the hepa virus.... he is 18 and freeking out,,, any advice will be appreciated..
thanks for all........
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HIV is not transmitted this way, Kil. The cuts under his bandages would not have been fresh.
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Today I met this tranny who I did not penetrate..we did protected oral both ways I sucked her nipples and liquid came out that I spat out straight away ...kissed deeply her naked cock touched various parts of my body including my anus however no penetration took place ..
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There is no risk for HIV in the incident as you describe it.
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her penis touched my anal canal outside though ...there is no risk there??? and i might of drank her nipple milk ?????
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sweet Ann what you think babe... with all due respect
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she also licked my ass ... she stuck her tongue in my ass,,, is that risky ???? cheers
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I am glad your thread was merged, and am sorry that I did not notice your extensive psot count before I replied.
After 61 posts on this forum, you should know as well as any of us how HIV is and is not transmitted.
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Kil,
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.
You've been coming here for well over five years, including back when we had different forum software. Surely that's long enough to have learned that NOTHING you are reporting was a risk for hiv infection.
No, not even the anal rubbing. That activity is commonly called frottage, and frottage is NOT a risk for hiv infection.
No penetration equals no risk. No risk equals no testing necessary.
Why would getting your ass licked be a risk when saliva is NOT infectious? You really, really should know this stuff by now.
Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.
To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER THE INCIDENT WITH A TRANSGENDER PERSON, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.
If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.
Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!
Ann
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thank you guys .... peace
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i really am NOT an annoying person or anything but i really have this concern ... when the last exposure happened i had and still have a bad case of haemmorroids the has some blood ... will that make a difference? i am not making this up or imagining it .....thanks guys
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Wow.
Think about it.
YOUR blood makes YOU more at risk because SHE licked your anus?
YOUR blood makes you more at risk because SHE pressed her penis against you?
Again, five years. And you still ask that question?
I withdraw from further discussion with you regarding HIV. You know as much about it as I do, as anyone here does, by now.
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And I am going to warn you that if you come back here again with more of these fanciful what ifs after all that you have been told here, well it's just ridiculous and you are just at the edge of getting a time out and possibly a permanent one.
You are abusing the service being offered here.
Consider yourself warned.