Nutrition, Wumpette Style

[buginme2]

I prefer this!

Vile.   

[Jeff G]

I don't mean to sound critical but that statement seems counterintuitive.  Blood sugar problems can be a bitch to solve and throw hiv meds on top of it and you could be in for a pickle.   

Do you know how to cook?  Maybe a small chicken breast and some fresh veggies?  You would cut down on the fat, definitely lower your sodium, and would have less an impact on your blood sugar.

Or even a salad with some garbanzos for protein? Some Greek food, a pita, tzaziki sauce and veggies?

$1 frozen meals doesn't sound like a solution if your having blood sugar problems.

I'm an excellent cook and I welcome you question . One of the things all dietetic people must have is a convenient supply of food that we can eat on the run or when we dont feel like like cooking , if you don't have something handy you tend to eat what ever you can find and thats how you run into trouble . I do not wish to cook a 350 cal breakfast everyday and I cant eat sugar or bread at all so a frozen meal works out well sometime ... its not the same for all diabetics but sugar and bread , any kind of bread run my sugar sky high . If you work like Betty does and you a diabetic you simply can not eat out everyday and stay in control .
 
If I don't have a convenient source of food I'm more likely to run get something that's far worse , the frozen meals solve the problem and I can also grab one to go . Its not really even a matter if I like the meals or not , my HIV meds need 350 calories to work and I have to inject insulin that requires me to eat right then and not later .   

Its not uncommon for me to be at a friends house and need a meal right then and they haven't even started dinner or be asked to go somewhere when I need to cook and cant do both .

[buginme2]

That makes sense I misunderstood.

Kashi makes some healthy frozen meals.  I've had them and they are okay. They may help.

[Jeff G]

I hate it when people say diabetes is as bad as HIV , its not , but controlled diabetes is  more of bitch to mange from day to day than controlled HIV , if that makes sense .

[Miss Philicia]

its not the same for all diabetics but sugar and bread , any kind of bread run my sugar sky high

Is that why you eat those triple Wendy's cheeseburgers twice a week? And isn't there breading on fried chicken and chicken fried steak?

Why can't you buy a dozen skinless chicken breasts and grill them all at once, then put them in the freezer or fridge to munch on?

[Rev. Moon]

^ The presentation is lacking.

I have to agree.  At least a cilantro leaf, some greasy gravy, or a few spoonfuls of tomato sauce would make it look more appetizing.  As it is it just looks like she plated some stir-fried testicles.

[Jeff G]

  As it is it just looks like she plated some stir-fried testicles.

OH the Horror ... for all we know the testicles were the only thing left of his enormous meal .

[mitch777]

OH the Horror ... for all we know the testicles were the only thing left of his enormous meal .

hmmm...
I would have thought he would have gone for the testicles first.
Like a bee to the pollen.
buzzzzz...

[WillyWump]

I'm an excellent cook and I welcome you question . One of the things all dietetic people must have is a convenient supply of food that we can eat on the run or when we dont feel like like cooking , if you don't have something handy you tend to eat what ever you can find and thats how you run into trouble . I do not wish to cook a 350 cal breakfast everyday and I cant eat sugar or bread at all so a frozen meal works out well sometime ... its not the same for all diabetics but sugar and bread , any kind of bread run my sugar sky high . If you work like Betty does and you a diabetic you simply can not eat out everyday and stay in control .
 
If I don't have a convenient source of food I'm more likely to run get something that's far worse , the frozen meals solve the problem and I can also grab one to go . Its not really even a matter if I like the meals or not , my HIV meds need 350 calories to work and I have to inject insulin that requires me to eat right then and not later .   

Its not uncommon for me to be at a friends house and need a meal right then and they haven't even started dinner or be asked to go somewhere when I need to cook and cant do both .

Jeff my brotha, I dont know how you do it. You have my respect with the Diabetes debacle and all the shit you ahve to go through.

-W

[Jeff G]

Thanks Willy and I apologies for going on about it in your and Miss P's log running and insightful nutrition thread .

Oh ... I talked to Mitch today on the phone and he can now refute Miss P's claim that I sound like I from Mayberry .

[WillyWump]

Oh ... I talked to Mitch today on the phone and he can now refute Miss P's claim that I sound like I from Mayberry .

Oh yeah? well I talked to P again today for over an hour, and I still cant get over that freakin' squeaky voice of hers.  You hit the nail on the head with your Truman Capote meets Charles Nelson Reilly comparison. If someones face never matched their voice, it is MissP's

[Jeff G]

The first time Miss P called me I thought I was being drunk dialed by Julia Child .

[WillyWump]

The first time Miss P called me I thought I was being drunk dialed by Julia Child .

LMAO

THat's actually a more acurate description... a snockered Julia Child.

[Miss Philicia]

Jeff my brotha, I dont know how you do it. You have my respect with the Diabetes debacle and all the shit you ahve to go through.

[Jeff G]

That wouldn't run my blood sugar up if I went easy on the gravy smarty pants .

[Miss Philicia]

http://www.pauladeen.com/article_view/the_deen_bros._lighter_chicken_fried_steak/

[WillyWump]

I'll see your Chicken Fried Steak and RAISE you a Puerca de Frita (Fried Pork Chop with jalepeno cream sauce). YEs, this was my supper tonight at the Egyptixan joint. MUY AUTHENTICO! SI!

AYE AYE AYE!

[Miss Philicia]

Meanwhile I had Chicken Tikki Masala followed by Greek non-fat strained yogurt with amber Agave nectar.

[Jeff G]

Meanwhile I had Chicken Tikki Masala followed by Greek non-fat strained yogurt with amber Agave nectar.

That's what it looks like when my dog gets sick from eating grass .

[WillyWump]

Meanwhile I had Chicken Tikki Masala followed by Greek non-fat strained yogurt with amber Agave nectar.

Yes, of course you did. 

DO you ever just wanna let your hair down and run out and just get you a big 'ol Big Mac??

[Miss Philicia]

Yes, of course you did. 

DO you ever just wanna let your hair down and run out and just get you a big 'ol Big Mac??

I prefer a double quarter pounder with cheese, super-sized

ps: but I get Five Guys instead, or Shake Shack

pps: wait until you see what I'm cooking tomorrow

[Rev. Moon]

I'll see your Chicken Fried Steak and RAISE you a Puerca de Frita (Fried Pork Chop with jalepeno cream sauce).

Puerca de Frita?  Whatdafucc?  That's not even proper Spanish.   Goes to show how "authentic" your Mexican food place is.  Not.

[Miss Philicia]

Puerca de Frita?  Whatdafucc?  That's not even proper Spanish.   Goes to show how "authentic" your Mexican food place is.  Not.

It's Puerto Rican, Cuban or Dominicana, preferably with Goya Adobo con Pimiento fake spice mix (not that Guilhermina has ever visited those lovely places. She's only been 10 miles over the border of Coahuila state.

Syeed the Egyptian is pulling a fast one over her. Next thing you know Syeed will be serving her some llama dried fetuses.

[Miss Philicia]

Just for Wumpy... (sorry, had to do take-out as I can't endure the inside of a Micky D's...)

[WillyWump]

Just for Wumpy... (sorry, had to do take-out as I can't endure the inside of a Micky D's...)

I see you ordered an extra potato cake....carbs and fat gurl.

Puerca de Frita?  Whatdafucc?  That's not even proper Spanish.   Goes to show how "authentic" your Mexican food place is.  Not.

Well whatever, it's was perco de something.

Why yall gotta be hatin', yall know Im down here living the culinary dream in San Antonio, Tejas!

[Jeff G]

Yall just being mean posting those food pics when you know all I can have from now on is 3 green beans and water ... with lemon in it on the holidays . 

[mecch]

McDs served burgers on bagels?  Are the bagels any good?  Not sure a burger on a real bagel would be that easy to eat.

[Hellraiser]

I see you ordered an extra potato cake....carbs and fat gurl.

Well whatever, it's was perco de something.

Why yall gotta be hatin', yall know Im down here living the culinary dream in San Antonio, Tejas!

I see you know exactly what goes in a mcdonald's combo meal.  I wouldn't have known if it was one or two of those things.  You're giving the game away!

[Rev. Moon]

McDs served burgers on bagels?  Are the bagels any good?  Not sure a burger on a real bagel would be that easy to eat.

It's not a boiger. It's one of them breakfast sammies with that fake and vile porkn'eggs.

I'm with Philicia however; whenever I order from a fast food place it has to be drive-thru.  I carnt stand the idea of hanging out with the pedestrianism of the hoi polloi that frequents those places.

Yall just being mean posting those food pics when you know all I can have from now on is 3 green beans and water ... with lemon in it on the holidays . 

But gerrrl, you is gon' look good!

[Jeff G]

But gerrrl, you is gon' look good!

Yeah ? ... how long I gotta wait for dat ? . Im at the age where you start turning not so purty like a banana gets .

[mecch]

The people watching is as good in fast-food restaurants as any other joint.

[Miss Philicia]

McDs served burgers on bagels?  Are the bagels any good?  Not sure a burger on a real bagel would be that easy to eat.

It's not a burger -- it's a steak, egg and cheese (and some onions) on a toasted bagel. They've had these for 15 years. I think they started them in the Northeast. Not sure if the second rate citizens in the southern occupied lands have them on the menu.

[BT65]

I hate it when people say diabetes is as bad as HIV , its not , but controlled diabetes is  more of bitch to mange from day to day than controlled HIV , if that makes sense .

Totally agree.  And you're right, I cannot afford to eat out constantly while at the job, so I usually take a frozen meal, unless I've cooked something on the weekend and can take left overs.  Diabetes is a bitch.  But, I manipulate my fast acting insulin, I admit.  If I'm going to eat something very sweet, or full of carbs, I'll inject a bit of the fast acting insulin so my sugar doesn't go up.  And the doctor's office called stating my diabetes labs were excellent.  So it can't be bad (manipulating the insulin). 

[Jeff G]

But, I manipulate my fast acting insulin, I admit.  If I'm going to eat something very sweet, or full of carbs, I'll inject a bit of the fast acting insulin so my sugar doesn't go up.  And the doctor's office called stating my diabetes labs were excellent.  So it can't be bad (manipulating the insulin). 

No its not bad , that's what I do too . On the other hand I have a friend who will eat what ever he wants all the time and swears diabetes is not a problem while injecting massive amounts of insulin . I used to be able to eat things I cant tolerate now  but now that my diabetes has progressed rapidly for whatever reason I'm trying to get ahead of it quickly , so I'm making changes and try and do what you do , moderation .

[BT65]

No its not bad , that's what I do too . On the other hand I have a friend who will eat what ever he wants all the time and swears diabetes is not a problem while injecting massive amounts of insulin . I used to be able to eat things I cant tolerate now  but now that my diabetes has progressed rapidly for whatever reason I'm trying to get ahead of it quickly , so I'm making changes and try and do what you do , moderation .

The older I get the worse the diabetes gets.  I would not start injecting large amounts of insulin just to be able to eat carbs and sugar constantly.  I only do it, for instance, if I"m going out to eat with a friend, and know I'll be eating carbs.  Or the once-in-a-while trip to the local frozen custard business. 

Is your friend overweight?  I'm asking because insulin turns extra sugar into fat.  Since getting older I have put on quite a bit of weight.  Probably due to just what I was posting about.  I am trying to even things out, exercise (which is hard to do with my knees), but it's difficult.  Day to day control of diabetes is a bitch.  But going blind and losing limbs scares me.

[Jeff G]

The older I get the worse the diabetes gets.  I would not start injecting large amounts of insulin just to be able to eat carbs and sugar constantly.  I only do it, for instance, if I"m going out to eat with a friend, and know I'll be eating carbs.  Or the once-in-a-while trip to the local frozen custard business. 

Is your friend overweight?  I'm asking because insulin turns extra sugar into fat.  Since getting older I have put on quite a bit of weight.  Probably due to just what I was posting about.  I am trying to even things out, exercise (which is hard to do with my knees), but it's difficult.  Day to day control of diabetes is a bitch.  But going blind and losing limbs scares me.

Both my friends are significantly overweight ... and one reason why Im making the changes is because another friend of mine who is a doctor told me point blank that the new amount of insulin will make me fat if I continue to eat like I have in the past .

My family and my friends all mean well but the whole day has always revolved around breakfast lunch and dinner and I must break that cycle for me right now . Im not over weight but I know from trying to lose a few pounds while on modest amounts of insulin is challenging , if I let myself get overweight and inject the amount Im injecting now I will never be able to lose a single pound of it .

Im looking at it like this , I should have made these changes before but its not too late to get a grip on it now , so its a good thing .   

[BT65]

Im looking at it like this , I should have made these changes before but its not too late to get a grip on it now , so its a good thing .

There are plenty of things I should have changed long ago.  Never too old to make positive changes.  I totally agree.  I'm trying to avoid the horrors of uncontrolled diabetes.  One of my client's mother just passed away due to diabetes.  She had also just had one of her legs amputated.  So getting healthier is always good.  But I do still have the occasional treat.  I'm only human.

My doctor told me that if I continued to smoke while being diabetic, I may as well put a gun to my head.  It took me a long time to quit, and many attempts, but hopefully it still stick this time.

All we can do is try and keep going forward.  Maybe we can support each other while attempting to get healthier.  I have your number, and you have mine.

[WillyWump]

Hey BT and Jeff,

Can I ask you if this (diabetes) came on with the HIv or meds? The reason I ask is because My doc is always concerned about my Blood sugar (even though its always been good).. and Ive never asked her why the big concern.

jsut curious

-W

[BT65]

Will, I actually became diabetic while in a coma.  The feeding they were giving me through the feeding tube had an unusually high amount of sugar and caused my pancreas to fail.  It happened way after my HIV diagnosis/meds, something like 12 or 13 years ago (it was a pretty foggy time).   Do you have a famiy history anywhere of diabetes?

[WillyWump]

Will, I actually became diabetic while in a coma.  The feeding they were giving me through the feeding tube had an unusually high amount of sugar and caused my pancreas to fail.  It happened way after my HIV diagnosis/meds, something like 12 or 13 years ago (it was a pretty foggy time).   Do you have a famiy history anywhere of diabetes?

Betty, No diabetes anwheres in family..well except my aunt but she is 70 and was just diagnosed with diabetes (she is also like 350 pounds and eats horribly)

oh and WOW, to how you got diabetes. I'm sorry

[BT65]

Betty, No diabetes anwheres in family..well except my aunt but she is 70 and was just diagnosed with diabetes (she is also like 350 pounds and eats horribly)

oh and WOW, to how you got diabetes. I'm sorry

Thanks, but you know, shit happens.  Everyone has something to deal with. 

Sometimes diabetes can skip a generation.  I'm talking about your aunt.  It is hereditary usually, so maybe a couple generations before your aunt also had diabetes somewhere?  Not that you would know that.  But, if your aunt is diabetic, even if she was just diagnosed, it could be passed on to you.  I would let your doctor know about that and agree your sugar should be monitored when you get your labs. 

I'm not being a h8er, lol, but from what I've read, and I have followed this thread, you don't eat well?  I wonder if you could get a referral to a dietician or someone who could help in getting a reasonable nutrition plan going?  I know how difficult it is, and I am far from perfect.  But if you can avoid becoming diabetic, it would be a positive thing.

[WillyWump]

I'm not being a h8er, lol, but from what I've read, and I have followed this thread, you don't eat well? 

NOOOOOO! Not my Betty now 

Im working on the diet though 

[Jeff G]

My doctors think that the combination of meds pushed me over into diabetes . We all are aware that HIV meds can cause or aggravate metabolic conditions . Having had 30 years poz and tons of HIV meds that caused significant lipid and cholesterol problems for me , my docs and I agree my diabetes is a complication from HIV . 

[Jeff G]

OH hey ... I just made salmon patties but instead of frying them I put them in a muffin tin and baked them , kind of like salmon cupcakes without the paper cup or course . They are great . 

[WillyWump]

OH hey ... I just made salmon patties but instead of frying them I put them in a muffin tin and baked them , kind of like salmon cupcakes without the paper cup or course . They are great .

That actually sounds purty good.

[BT65]

I know this sounds horrible but I hate fish unless it's fried and there's lots of tartar sauce. 

[Rev. Moon]

she is also like 350 pounds and eats horribly

::cough::

Scuse me, miss Latrice... You even have your own thread based on all the lard, starches, and sodium that you consume on a daily basis.  Sounds like you intend to keep this tradition? 

[Jeff G]

That actually sounds purty good.

They came out very crispy and purty . My muffin tin is a swirly one that leave an indentation so I melted a bit of pepper jack cheese on them and then BAM . 

[WillyWump]

::cough::

Scuse me, miss Latrice... You even have your own thread based on all the lard, starches, and sodium that you consume on a daily basis.  Sounds like you intend to keep this tradition?

Oh here comes Miss Thang now 

[Dachshund]

OH hey ... I just made salmon patties but instead of frying them I put them in a muffin tin and baked them , kind of like salmon cupcakes without the paper cup or course . They are great .

Here are some nice recipes you can whip up in a muffin tin.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/arielknutson/unexpected-things-you-can-make-in-a-muffin-tin