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Author Topic: UK hairdresser accused of deliberately infecting his lovers with HIV  (Read 5728 times)

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Offline Jim Allen

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Very upset with myself. I spend 30 mins searching as I was sure we already had a thread going on this topic and when I found it, it was not a thread just a passing comment back in Jan :-[



Anyhow story started that English police launched a manhunt for Edinburgh hairdresser Darryl Rowe was who on the run accused of infecting lovers with HIV.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/edinburgh-mum-begs-hiv-fugitive-9330765 "Scots mum begs 'HIV fugitive' son accused of deliberately infecting male lovers to come home and face charges"

Update is:

He has indeed been charged with infecting four men with HIV and of attempting to infect a further six between October 2015 and December 2016. The court case has started and he is reported to have not been taking his medication at the time, and allegedly texted one victim saying: "Maybe you have the fever. I have HIV LOL. Oops!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/09/man-accused-deliberately-infecting-lovers-sent-text-saying-have/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/hiv-hairdresser-grindr-victims-trial-burn-i-got-you-a7992871.html

Generally speaking and criminal acts aside my thoughts are very simple on the topic that everybody is responsible for their own sexual health, having sex comes with risks.

That said however in this case if what is being claimed about this guy is true, than I will not not feel sorry for him when they lock him away behind bars.

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Re: UK hairdresser accused of deliberately infecting his lovers with HIV
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2017, 01:38:38 pm »
The mind boggles.
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Re: UK hairdresser accused of deliberately infecting his lovers with HIV
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2017, 05:52:56 pm »
My feeling about this case is that we the public are not fully informed and there are a lot unanswered questions and a lot does not add up.

I dove deep on the guy in the USA who was charged, convicted, appealed and then reconvicted. 

He is a low IQ person, who didn't understand everything, but there was some sort of tort, sure, but the partners should have protected themselves, and finally I think he was somewhat ramrodded.

I feel in my gut something similar is happening here.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stcharles/ex-lindenwood-wrestler-gets-years-in-hiv-transmission-case-after/article_c8456661-4563-5bf1-a94c-22952dcc8956.html
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Re: UK hairdresser accused of deliberately infecting his lovers with HIV
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2017, 06:08:08 pm »
I do agree that the newspaper reports are horrifying and he could well be a psychopath. 

However, are they yellow journalism? 

I have heard all that, and more, about Typhoid Mary HIV spreaders. 

I simply urge some scepticism until hopefully sage justice passes over the issue.
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Re: UK hairdresser accused of deliberately infecting his lovers with HIV
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2017, 07:43:58 pm »
One take of the story of "tiger mandingo"

https://www.thenation.com/article/reckless-prosecution-tiger-mandingo/

The good-looking Scottish "gay hairdresser" in Brighton, hmm... Typhoid Mary. Well if he really sent all those texts, it should be an open and shut case against him. I am going to assume they were all submitted as evidence?
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Re: UK hairdresser accused of deliberately infecting his lovers with HIV
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2017, 05:42:54 am »
Headlines are always sensationalised.

Reading statement made in the court by the victims, if true are horrific. If untrue its also horrific, we will see what the judge decides and hear what evidence there was later.

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Re: UK hairdresser accused of deliberately infecting his lovers with HIV
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2017, 04:44:08 pm »
It is indeed horrific, but if he is convicted (and it hasn't happened yet) and the reports of his behaviour are true, then HIV would merely be the medium in which a psychopath was working. If he hadn't been positive then he could have just as easily turned to another medium - assault, drugs, weapons etc

The biggest frustration with this, is that I've seen some right-leaning US news outlets which are using the actions of this alleged nut-job as a reason to maintain barbaric HIV criminalisation laws in some states.

....The same outlets who would defend the right to bear arms when some nut-job uses a gun to kill a number of people....

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well sentencing was today and He got life with a minimum term of 12 years, convicted of grievous bodily harm with intent in relation to HIV.

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His six-week trial heard he embarked on a cynical and deliberate campaign to infect men with HIV, refusing treatment and ignoring advice from doctors.

He insisted on having unprotected sex with men, claiming he was “clean”. When they refused, he tampered with condoms, tricking them into thinking he was practising safe sex. Afterwards Rowe would become aggressive and taunted some of the men in text messages. He repeatedly lied to authorities and would use aliases with his victims.

Judge Christine Henson QC, sentencing, referred to his crimes as a “determined hateful campaign of sly violence”.

“You are the first individual to be sentenced for section 18 offences in the context of infecting others with HIV,” she said.

“With the full knowledge of the risk you posed to others and the legal implications of engaging in risky sexual practices, you embarked on a deliberate campaign to infect other men with the HIV virus.

“Unfortunately for five of the men you met your campaign was successful.”

The judge added: “They describe living with a life sentence as a result of your cruel and senseless acts. Many of those men were young men in their 20s at the time they had the misfortune to meet you.

“Given the facts of this case and your permissive predatory behaviour I cannot see when you would no longer be a danger to gay men.

“In my judgment the offences, taken together, are so serious, that a life sentence is justified. You will potentially remain a danger to others for the rest of your life.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/18/hairdresser-daryll-rowe-given-life-sentence-for-deliberately-infecting-men-with-hiv

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/18/hairdresser-sentenced-life-deliberately-infecting-men-hiv-tampering/
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Anti-social personality disorder.  Pity. Otherwise he's a physically attractive man.
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