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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/22/naked-man-charged-with-in_n_330037.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/22/naked-man-charged-with-in_n_330037.html)
"A Northern Virginia man was arrested and charged with indecent exposure after brewing coffee naked in his own home.
Eric Williamson, 29, said he did know he could be seen. There is a school bus stop in front of his house.
"Yes, I wasn't wearing any clothes but I was alone, in my own home and just got out of bed. It was dark and I had no idea anyone was outside looking in at me..."
A lady and her son were cutting through his yard and saw him in his house naked and called the police. BTW, she's the wife of a police officer at the local PD. Two things are for sure - 1) I know I'd have looked if I noticied him naked - besides needing a haircut, he's not unattractive at all 2) I'm sure glad our neighbors aren't so screwed as to look in our windows while cutting through our yards; I know they'd see a thing or two that they wouldn't like (or possibly would like ;)).
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I hope they give him the electric chair...
Seriously though, why was the lady and her son cutting through his yard? Isn't that tresspassing?
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I hope they give him the electric chair...
Seriously though, why was the lady and her son cutting through his yard? Isn't that tresspassing?
Indeed. Where does one draw the line between going up to somebody's house and peeking in the window and seeing a naked person / people and a person intentionally exposing them self to others.
Hell, I don't see the problem with answering the door naked, if it's what one wants to do - my house, my door, you approached my door and summoned me (doorbell or knocking) and don't like what you see? It's an easy solution in both cases - don't cut through people's yards, approach their houses, or look in their windows!
By the way, I only answer the door naked if I KNOW FOR SURE who's there and that they'll appreciate it! ;)
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By the way, I only answer the door naked if I KNOW FOR SURE who's there and that they'll appreciate it! ;)
*ding dong*
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He could make coffee naked at my house any time he wants.
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With those braod shoulders and not-bad looks on the perp, I'm surprised that little queen field reporter isn't broadcasting on his knees from the perp's bedroom.
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I always make my coffee wearing a sequined moo moo and a turban. Though if I'm feeling really sexy I'll just wear these (http://www.bridalwave.tv/pasties.jpg).
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He can make coffee at my house as naked as he wants to be, what a cute-hunk he was, maybe that lady was upset cause she somehow wished her man looked as good, if she even has one, that old crow needs to get a life, and STOP peeking in good looking guy's windows, and YES, that is called Trespassing ::)
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I always make my coffee wearing a sequined moo moo and a turban. Though if I'm feeling really sexy I'll just wear these (http://www.bridalwave.tv/pasties.jpg).
That would have looked at lot better with your wearing it.............PICTURES PLEASE :-*
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*ding dong*
Avon Lady?
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Maybe she didn't mind him making the coffee naked but when he started whipping the cream things may have gotten out of hand.
Miss Philicia: Nice earrings.
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Hmmmmm. I think there may be more to this story considering the big deal the police are making of it.
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Miss Philicia: Nice earrings.
Uh, those are are burlesque pasties. You wear them over your nipples.
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Hmmmmm. I think there may be more to this story considering the big deal the police are making of it.
I was wondering that myself. I bet the SOB was really pouring a glass of water.
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Why on earth would the police FORCE, not one officer, canvas the neighborhood to question neighbors about this man, unless someone reasonable said something. One pretty reasonable sounding lady on one of the videos said it was possible he was an exhibitionist cause other people have seen things.
Ok innocent until proven guilty!
But its a sad day if so many people are engaged in a cruel witchhunt if he really is just hottie making his morning coffee in his birthday suit.
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So you guys think Grizzly Adams is hot? The guy looks like a Neanderthal.
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So you guys think Grizzly Adams is hot? The guy looks like a Neanderthal.
Yeah, I think he's Hot, so what, you wanna fight about it...........LOL
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Why on earth would the police FORCE, not one officer, canvas the neighborhood to question neighbors about this man, unless someone reasonable said something. One pretty reasonable sounding lady on one of the videos said it was possible he was an exhibitionist cause other people have seen things.
Ok innocent until proven guilty!
But its a sad day if so many people are engaged in a cruel witchhunt if he really is just hottie making his morning coffee in his birthday suit.
There was an earlier report that a lady made that she saw something similar (him making nude coffee), but that hadn't been followed up on, for some reason. The one that has caused the to-do is the one made by the trespassing wife of a local police officer. You know, if one person walking down the street looked in my windows and saw me naked making coffee, it makes sense that another walking down the same street (or through my yard) later might see me getting a refill! I do like how they spokesperson said they (the police) were putting things in mailboxes, which, as everybody knows, is illegal.
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Why hasn't this cow been charged with being a Peeping Tom? I though it was illegal to go onto someone's property and peer through their windows. If the tables were turned and it was a nude woman making coffee, how do you think it would go down if a man reported it?
And I fail to see why the presence of a school bus stop across the road from this guy's house makes a difference. Are the children who use that bus stop in the habit of taking binoculars to school to look into people's windows? Because otherwise, I can't imagine they'd get a clear look at something as small as a penis from so far away, and through glass as well. (because of reflections, ect, in the glass)
Whatever happened to a person's home being their castle? It's an infringement of human rights to be arrested for being naked in one's own home - and a huge waste of taxpayer's money.
This shit really pisses me off. Could you tell? ;D
Ann
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If I had neighbor like that I would most appreaciate him standing in the buff making coffee... I guess I would enjoy knocking on his door for a cup of sugar especially that morning! Always a day late and a dollar short for me! I think he should place charges on the woman who was looking through his window... shes the perv here! and sue the city for the false arrest... it would be different if he was standing right in front of an open door in the buff or in the yard ... whatever?
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Calm down guys (and gals?).. this guy looks perfect in a cheaply made straight porn flick, especially with that hair.. ;D
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Arrested for that? I would love to have such neighbour!
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He looks like Jesus here (http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S1205398.shtml?cat=572).
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Oh nutz...
Guess I'll have to start wearing clothes walking the dog.
And getting the mail.
And mowing the yard.
And washing the car.
And raking the yard.
And helping the little old lady to cross the street.
I thought that little old neighbor lady needed to cross the street way too often.
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He looks like Jesus here (http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S1205398.shtml?cat=572).
He looks like a pedophile in that picture.........at least the one's that we have in our local paper are better groomed than he is, maybe the old cow thought it was the second coming of Christ ;D
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I have to agree with Ann totally. I could see if the man was jerking off while making coffee but then I would be amazed he could do both really. And I also agree why wasn't charges brought on her for peeping but we all know the answer to that. It all is a waste of time and energy. And if I was the guy in question, I would be suing the woman and the police. What you do in the privacy of your own home is your own business or so I thought.
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I have to agree with Ann totally. I could see if the man was jerking off while making coffee but then I would be amazed he could do both really.
You would be amazed at what us guys can do. However, I don't think he should be arrested for jacking off either. Well unless the lady saw him shoot his jizz in his wife's coffee cup without her knowing. That would put the wife at a theoretical risk for pregnancy because she took his semen.
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I totally agree with Ann, too, the whole thing is stupid and a waste of time. I can't wait to hear what happens, hopefully, he can bring charges against the women for trespassing or better yet, being an idiot.
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And helping the little old lady to cross the street.
I thought that little old neighbor lady needed to cross the street way too often.
Just exactly what part of your anatomy did she hang on to when you crossed her over? Enquiring minds MUST know!
;D
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Another Fox News exclusive.
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Well, I had a go response, but it got lost in my reverie of :
MissP brewing coffee in those tassles :p
Then David answering the door was full of promise..
oh, yeah, I think he' innocent, and is the house next door For Sale?
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oh, yeah, I think he' innocent, and is the house next door For Sale?
You'd have to find out where he's living now. An article I read yesterday (sorry, no link, you'll have to put up with me paraphrasing) said he'd moved out to an undisclosed location.
What's unclear is why he moved. This article also stated that he'd been sacked from his job the previous Friday, and had been "acting strangely" over the weekend, culminating in a drunken binge on Sunday, carried into Monday morning (when the incident happened). The house he was living in had been rented out by the diving company he worked for, and his room mates were co-workers. So, it's unclear whether he moved as a direct result of the incident, or because he'd lost his job and the living arrangement was tied to his job.
And even if the guy was drunk, I'm still on his side. He was in his own home (and evidently mourning the loss of his job), even if it wasn't to be his home for much longer. The cow who made such a fuss should be charged with trespass, peeping-tomfoolery, and wasting police time, and made to repay the costs of the original investigation.
People should mind their own business in a case like this. I could understand reporting seeing, when standing outside someone's home, a child being beaten, but nude coffee brewing? Eff off already. ::)
Ann
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People should mind their own business in a case like this. I could understand reporting seeing, when standing outside someone's home, a child being beaten, but nude coffee brewing? Eff off already. ::)
As long as nobody was hurt (seeing / hearing something 'tasteless' or against ones beliefs or morals does NOT count), people need to get over it. As for the child seeing a naked man and suffering... I see quite a few young boys in the locker room at the gym in the summer (when they have kids' camp). These fathers choose to accompany those kids around other naked men. The children seem to pay absolutely no attention to those around them. However, when I was that age (6 to 8 or whatever), I know I would have secretly been checking out the naked men; I guess that's because I was born gay!
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I know I would have secretly been checking out the naked men; I guess that's because I was born gay!
My hero! Did we share the same public swimming holes? I used to have a crick in my neck from rubber necking the older med innocently showering and dressing and running back out mama.
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My hero! Did we share the same public swimming holes? I used to have a crick in my neck from rubber necking the older med innocently showering and dressing and running back out mama.
However, when I was that age (6 to 8 or whatever), I know I would have secretly been checking out the naked men; I guess that's because I was born gay!
Used to have? I still do (check 'em out in the gym, that is)! ;D
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You would be amazed at what us guys can do. However, I don't think he should be arrested for jacking off either. Well unless the lady saw him shoot his jizz in his wife's coffee cup without her knowing. That would put the wife at a theoretical risk for pregnancy because she took his semen.
That would definitely be a new taste for coffee, that's for sure! And even if the lady saw him jizz in the coffee, how would she know who it was for? *lol* I have heard stories when I lived in Miami of a dude who jizzed in the mayo at a Burger King. I forget how he was found out but it makes you or at least me never want to order anything with mayo... ;D
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I was hesitant to comment on this thread but, people, look at what we are talking about: this guy was IN HIS OWN HOUSE and they are charging him with indecent exposure? What the hell is the matter with people? When and how did it become against the law to walk around in your own house nude? This is like something you hear about happening in Nazi Germany or China!
I can't believe no one else (including the man's neighbors and community) is not outraged at the police force for their gross violation of this man's personal rights.
I hope this man gets a good law firm and/or the American Civil Liberties Union to defend him (and all of us!).
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I was hesitant to comment on this thread but, people, look at what we are talking about: this guy was IN HIS OWN HOUSE and they are charging him with indecent exposure? What the hell is the matter with people? When and how did it become against the law to walk around in your own house nude? This is like something you hear about happening in Nazi Germany or China!
I can't believe no one else (including the man's neighbors and community) is not outraged at the police force for their gross violation of this man's personal rights.
I hope this man gets a good law firm and/or the American Civil Liberties Union to defend him (and all of us!).
This happened in Northern Virginia, so what do you expect? if that happened here where I live, nobody would give a shit ;D
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I'm making coffee right now. Who wants to watch? :o
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I walked around the house naked part of last night and this morning and got no response. No neighbors peeking in while cutting through the yard, nothing. I guess it's because it's a Sunday and kids aren't at bus stops... sigh. I think it's time to go camping before it gets too cool. ;)
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I walked around the house naked part of last night and this morning and got no response. No neighbors peeking in while cutting through the yard, nothing. I guess it's because it's a Sunday and kids aren't at bus stops... sigh. I think it's time to go camping before it gets too cool. ;)
Try riding your motorcycle naked, for a better response you just might find a new husband that way :o
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Try riding your motorcycle naked, for a better response you just might find a new husband that way :o
David don't try it... just walk away from the bike, go back in the house, and put some clothes on.... NOW!!
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So how long before we see this dude in Playgirl?
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Mmmn. Yummy. I wish I could trim his bear. ::)
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Oops I meant BEARD. LOL
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So you guys think Grizzly Adams is hot? The guy looks like a Neanderthal.
He's got a yummy sort of grizzly adams reliable protector thing going there
J
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Man disputes indecent-exposure charge
Suspect showed naked self to woman, boy, Fairfax police say
By Theresa Vargas
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, October 26, 2009
The way Eric Williamson tells it, he might have been making coffee or flipping eggs or taking a picture down from the wall when a woman and her 7-year-old son walked by his Springfield house and saw him, through the window, naked.
He says he never saw them and never knew they'd seen him -- until the police showed up.
In a case that gained international attention last week, hitting a nerve for anyone who has ever dashed from the bedroom to the laundry room in the buff, Williamson was charged with indecent exposure.
There are conflicting accounts of what happened Monday morning, but everyone agrees on this: The 29-year-old was naked and home alone, and he could face up to a year in jail.
"I looked straight at the cops and said, 'You're telling me that none of you guys have ever walked across your kitchen or run to the laundry room to get some pants?' " said Williamson, who was handcuffed and taken before a magistrate. "I was treated like an animal. If there was something offensive, would not a knock on the door and heads-up suffice?"
From Williamson's Fairfax County neighborhood to Web sites around the world that picked up the story, the arrest fueled jokes, anger and more than a few there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I confessions.
But the two versions of what happened that morning reveal the complexity of cases in which the line between public and private space can be as thin as a windowpane.
Fairfax police say Williamson wanted to be noticed, positioning himself so that the mother and child would see him not once, but twice.
As officers tell it, the 45-year-old woman, the wife of a Fairfax police officer, was walking her son to school about 8:40 a.m. along a well-traveled path between public tennis courts and the house where Williamson had been living for three months when a noise drew her attention to a side door.
That's when she first noticed Williamson standing nude in the doorway, she said. When she and her son got to the sidewalk in front of the house on Arley Drive, they saw him again -- this time, through a large window that appeared to have no drapes.
Police spokeswoman Mary Ann Jennings described Williamson's version of what happened as "a gross exaggeration that was fueled by the media. . . . We don't arrest people for being nude in their house."
The element of intent
Washington area lawyers say the case, like others before it, will probably boil down to a crucial question: Did Williamson intend to be seen? Virginia law defines indecent exposure as the intentionally obscene display of private parts in a public place or "any place where others are present."
"It has to be more egregious than he just showed his private parts," said Atchuthan Sriskandarajah, a Fairfax lawyer who has handled hundreds of sex crime cases. What about the bathrobe-clad man who picks up his newspaper in the morning and is exposed by the wind? "It's not the exposure itself that makes it indecent," he said. "There has to be some kind of obscene intent."
Sriskandarajah's firm recently handled the case of a Fairfax man who was caught doing more than exposing himself in his garage. The door was open and he was seen by a neighbor whom he had a history of calling out to, the lawyer said. The case was resolved, and the man was required to do 25 hours of community service and get treatment.
Then there is the case of Byron Stiftar, who was convicted in Fairfax Circuit Court of indecent exposure after a neighbor working in her yard heard a rattling sound and looked over to see Stiftar standing at a second-floor window of his townhouse, according to court documents.
His face was covered by blinds, but the lower portion of his nude body was visible. Stiftar testified that the windows were in his bedroom, where he slept nude. He said he didn't mean for neighbors to see him and didn't know they had until police contacted him.
Virginia's Court of Appeals dismissed Stiftar's conviction in 1988, ruling that the state had failed to prove the exposure was intentional.
'A home is a sacred place'
Dickson J. Young, a Fairfax lawyer who represents Williamson, said the circumstances surrounding his client's arrest "fall well below the Stiftar case. He's not doing anything but standing in his house and having a cup of coffee."
Williamson, reached by phone, said that his roommates had left for work by 5:30 that morning and that he was happy to have the house to himself. He made coffee and eggs and started packing up his belongings. He is a commercial diver and had lost his job a few days earlier, and he was planning to move to his mother's house near Virginia Beach.
He said that by 9 a.m. he had gotten dressed to walk out to his car and that by 10 a.m., he was napping in his room. Police arrived about an hour later, he said.
"All of a sudden, I get woken up by police officers, and this guy has a Taser gun in my face," he said. "I'm freaking out. Is this a movie? A horrible dream?"
One of the five officers who went into his house called him a pervert, he said, and others looked through his belongings. They left but returned a short time later to take him to the magistrate. After he was released, he said, he grew angrier and decided to call Fox News.
"A home is a sacred place," said Williamson, who has a 5-year-old daughter who doesn't live with him. "When that just gets shattered and destroyed over an accusation, that's something I don't believe can be tolerated."
Jennings, the police spokeswoman, would not comment on Williamson's claim that officers entered his room without a warrant; she said details would come out in court. Williamson said he has a court date Nov. 6.
On Wednesday, after Williamson had left for his mother's house, police handed out fliers in the neighborhood asking people to report anything about the incident or others like it. One of Williamson's roommates, who declined to give his name, said that he and the four other men living in the house felt less sympathy than anger now that they are left to make peace with neighbors and answer reporters' questions.
As for what really happened, the roommate said, "anything's possible." All he knows is that the kitchen curtains, which he said were Williamson's, were not installed when he left for work Monday morning but that they were up when he got home.
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It still amazes me that, regardless of intent, the 'victims' aren't expected to just not look at the 'offender' in his own house. It seems that men tend to be the ones that are accused of exposure by women. I've not heard of a woman being accused of indecent exposure by a man or a woman accusing another woman of it, though I'm sure it happens.
On a side note... our neighbor, a woman, was walking her dog and noticed a naked woman inside the neighbor's own door (two doors down from us). I can't recall what the naked woman was doing - maybe getting the mail from the wall-mounted mail box - but she just smiled and waved at our neighbor. When she told us the story, our neighbor laughed and said that she thought the woman was odd. Reporting her for exposure was never even considered.
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It still amazes me that, regardless of intent, the 'victims' aren't expected to just not look at the 'offender' in his own house. It seems that men tend to be the ones that are accused of exposure by women. I've not heard of a woman being accused of indecent exposure by a man or a woman accusing another woman of it, though I'm sure it happens.
On a side note... our neighbor, a woman, was walking her dog and noticed a naked woman inside the neighbor's own door (two doors down from us). I can't recall what the naked woman was doing - maybe getting the mail from the wall-mounted mail box - but she just smiled and waved at our neighbor. When she told us the story, our neighbor laughed and said that she thought the woman was odd. Reporting her for exposure was never even considered.
Some People are just downright EVIL, and when they see a naked person, they just can't handle it the way others can that's it, in a nut-shell , that woman that called the people on this man obviously has some kinda issues that she really needs to address.........
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Some People are just downright EVIL, and when they see a naked person, they just can't handle it the way others can that's it, in a nut-shell , that woman that called the people on this man obviously has some kinda issues that she really needs to address.........
I don't know that being "evil" has anything to do with it. I think some people are just too moralistic, and tend to freak out when anything out of the ordinary happens. They can't handle it, so they try to find someone to handle it for them, which, unfortunately, happens a lot of times to be the law.
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Saw a great costume the other night. "Naked" bearded guy with a large coffee cup as his shorts and in handcuffs. Very clever (amd sexy I might add). ::)
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Saw a great costume the other night. "Naked" bearded guy with a large coffee cup as his shorts and in handcuffs. Very clever (amd sexy I might add). ::)
Hmmmm.... I should have use that for a costume; I wouldn't have even had to cover up (considering we were at a gay campground party). Just carry around a coffee pot and wear handcuffs.
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I heard about this. apparently the concern was that the mother was walking her little kid to school and he saw the naked man in the window, but they were cutting through his yard! and i'm sorry, but how is that anyones problem? (the little kid). he was the one looking into the man's window.
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No doubt he was hoping the 45 would stop by on her way back after dropping the kid off at school.
He's 29, she's 45. He figured she'd be starving for something better than "passion by viagra."
Reminds me of that opening scene in dressed to kill. In this case, he was undressed to fornicate!
For all we know, she came back and after he got a good look at the old bag, he couldn't stomach it!