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Author Topic: Weird doctors advice....  (Read 4782 times)

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Offline jimmydenver

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Weird doctors advice....
« on: June 16, 2012, 01:27:19 pm »
I have had HIV about 4 year, started meds (kaletra and combivir) about 2 months ago.  Side note: The diarrhea is great, lol, lots of reading time!

My gf has been on meds about 3 years.  She was very insistent when I started that I take them each day at the specified time, very little tolerance for being late.

Now, my doc when I asked him recently, he said it didnt matter, I could be late 6 hours, no big deal.  My gf totally disagreed with him using her knowledge from her docs (she is w/state clinic, I get care through VA).

Any advice on this?  I am inclined to believe her because shes had 4 diff doctors over her last 4 years, and all said the same thing.  Plus my VA doc seems flaky at best.

Thanks

Offline mecch

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Re: Weird doctors advice....
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2012, 02:49:55 pm »
(better advice below...) 
« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 04:07:45 pm by mecch »
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Offline newt

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Re: Weird doctors advice....
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 09:17:41 am »
I think your doc is probably technically right for nearly all people on this combo. Kaletra is  often  used once a day now for a start. Little nervous about +6 hours on the AZT in Combivir though.

But I do have to ask, why are you still on the Combivir, and why on this old combo at all given there are newer ones that allow you to go out without a portable toilet in tow?

- matt
"The object is to be a well patient, not a good patient"

Offline jimmydenver

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Re: Weird doctors advice....
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 12:42:55 pm »
Combo, I dont know...the woman thought the same thing, one has AZT in it, so was dumbfounded why I would be on these too.

My numbers CD4 over the course of about 2 years w/o meds went from about 650 to 530, viral load is always through the root, usually about 80000-100000.

The other odd part, is I saw him Friday, after 2 months on my previous meds, w/o having my new bloodwork back, he changed me to new ones starting tomorrow.  I will post the new ones tomorrow, I should know them but I do not.

Offline buginme2

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Re: Weird doctors advice....
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 02:03:24 pm »
Why are you on this combo? Why isn't your doctor following US treatment guidelines? I assume you are in Denver right?

Is it due to resistance issues? What did your genotype test reveal?

I vote for a second opinion
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Offline jimmydenver

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Re: Weird doctors advice....
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2012, 12:56:29 pm »
No, I am in Vegas.

So I got the results back, my CD4 was 505 and viral load 106,000 (approximate) 3 months ago, my viral load has always been high.   The new results are CD4 530 and viral load at 58 (yes, just 58). 
From label:
Emtricitabine
Norvir
and Reyataz

I started them about 5 days ago, no odd effects yet.

Offline newt

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Re: Weird doctors advice....
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2012, 02:21:01 pm »
Okay, good, better, but now you are on a cut-down (non-guideline compliant) combo. Guidelines recommend 1 extra drug with Reyataz/Norvir.

This don't matter if your viral load goes and stays below 40, for the proof of the pudding is suppressed viral load, not how many drugs you take.

- matt
"The object is to be a well patient, not a good patient"

Offline mdpoz06

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Re: Weird doctors advice....
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2012, 03:29:11 pm »
Hey Jimmy...
I'm late to this post but wanted to give some input regarding your diarrhea: I'm also on Kaletra, along with Trizivir, viread, 7 years but for a 6 mo. break when I didn't have insurance. 

Anyway, Kaletra gives me prtty bad D also, but I started taking a low dose multo-enzyme pro-biotic every (1 billion acu's). One a day in the morning on an empty stomach works wonders.  Before that I had to take to immodium-D every morning. It was a relief to get back to normal bm's.  Good luck!

Offline songs06

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Re: Weird doctors advice....
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2012, 11:22:11 am »
I heard lots of stuff about Kaletra, it seems like it does gastrointestinal side effects %25 of the people. but i didn't get any diarrhea or vomiting at all. just mild nausea and it has gone in 15 days. just a little tiredness and depression now :)
18.03.2012 - infected.
14.04.2012 - first positive elisa - UD western blot
30.04.2012 - western blot confirmation positive
03.05.2012 - first lab- CD4: 256   VL: 2.3 M
01.06.2012 - sec lab- CD4: 390 (end of ARS)
01.07.2012 - third lab- CD4: 388 VL: 150.000
11.07.2012 - Started Truvada + Kaletra
04.08.2012 - CD4: 401 VL: 3800
30.09.2012 - CD4: 510 VL: 709
04.01.2013 - CD4: 650 VL: UD! (aka 20)
01.04.2013 - CD4: 460 VL: UD
09.2013 - CD4: 510
02.2014 - CD4: 490

 


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