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Offline Assurbanipal

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Time for another flu shot
« on: September 01, 2010, 07:15:18 pm »
It's that time again.  This year it looks like just one shot though (swine flu protection is included in the regular shot this year).

Figure I'll get one next week. 

Here's this year's CDC poster for people  with "long term medical conditions"  (includes us)
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/pdf/freeresources/risk/preventing_treating_flu.pdf

Looks like there is a new high dose version available, but only if you are over 65 and CDC is not recommending it even for that group -- just testing it.

Have you gotten a flu shot yet?
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%
2014 VL UD - 48
2015 VL 130 Moved to Triumeq

Offline peteb

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 07:17:32 pm »
next doc visit

Offline tednlou2

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2010, 12:39:25 am »
Does the vaccine start losing its effectiveness after a certain amount of time in the body?  I was planning to get it when I saw my doc in October.  I know many get the flu no matter the time of year with the big outbreaks between January and March??

Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2010, 01:33:48 am »



   I usually get mine in October.  What month are we generally suppose to get them in?  I got one last October along with the pig shot.  I should be good to go till October then, right?
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Offline BlueMoon

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2010, 06:12:07 am »
I got mine yesterday during my doctor visit.  The single shot includes protection against swine flu.
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Offline phildinftlaudy

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2010, 07:57:46 am »
I see my ID doc on Sept. 20th - to get latest lab results - will probably ask to get it then - I also need to get my Tetanus - but really am not looking forward to having a sore arm for a day or two after (WHAA WHAA WHAA - that's right, I'm a big baby) - (Pain in the right places for the right reasons works - but in the arm???? )
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12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
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Offline J.R.E.

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2010, 08:04:29 am »


Usually I get my flu shot from work but I haven't seen notices posted about it yet. I have an appointment at the VA on the 13th.  If they have it, I can get it there.


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Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2010, 08:33:55 am »
Does the vaccine start losing its effectiveness after a certain amount of time in the body?  I was planning to get it when I saw my doc in October.  I know many get the flu no matter the time of year with the big outbreaks between January and March??

It's not so much that the vaccine loses effectiveness against the strains that were going around as that the flu evolves into new versions.

"Why do I need to get a flu vaccine every year?
Flu viruses change from year to year, which means two things. First, you can get the flu more than once during your lifetime. The immunity (natural protection that develops against a disease after a person has had that disease) that is built up from having the flu caused by one flu virus strain doesn't always provide protection against newer strains of the flu. Second, a flu vaccine made against flu viruses going around last year may not protect against the newer viruses. That is why the flu vaccine is updated to include current viruses every year.

Because of these reasons, a new flu vaccine is needed each year."

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm


Oh, and

"When will flu activity begin and when will it peak?
The timing of flu is very unpredictable and can vary from season to season. Flu activity most commonly peaks in the U.S. in January or February. However, seasonal flu activity can occur as late as May. "

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/1011season.htm
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%
2014 VL UD - 48
2015 VL 130 Moved to Triumeq

Offline Etay1207

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2010, 09:29:59 am »
My last flu shot was in 2003.  I have no desire to ever get another one.  My partner and one of my sons got the flu and pneumonia shots already this year. 
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Offline Jeff G

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2010, 10:11:50 am »
My last flu shot was in 2003.  I have no desire to ever get another one.  My partner and one of my sons got the flu and pneumonia shots already this year. 

I hope you at least like illegal drugs  ;)
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Offline northernguy

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2010, 10:55:47 am »
Looks like HIV+ folks have a poor response to the flu vaccine:
http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/hiv_influenza_vaccine_1667_19030.shtml
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Offline Hellraiser

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2010, 12:21:06 pm »
Looks like HIV+ folks have a poor response to the flu vaccine:
http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/hiv_influenza_vaccine_1667_19030.shtml

If your immune system is compromised there is no system to create antibodies, so when you actually get the virus your body still might not recognize it.  This is the same reason why say Hep A/B vaccines might not take.

Offline Etay1207

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2010, 01:18:37 pm »
Jg1962: I don't do drugs. Rarely weed when I hang out with my church friends. That's about it.
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Offline Hellraiser

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2010, 01:20:54 pm »
Jg1962: I don't do drugs. Rarely weed when I hang out with my church friends. That's about it.

Church is my anti drug...oh hey wait a second.

Offline Jeff G

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2010, 01:31:49 pm »
Jg1962: I don't do drugs. Rarely weed when I hang out with my church friends. That's about it.


Good to know ... I'm glad to know you don't deny drugs can make you feel good .
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Offline Etay1207

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2010, 04:09:04 pm »
Weed doesn't do anything for me. That's why I don't do it often. Besides I'm a truck driver and my company does random testing. But I'm manic depressive anyway. So I don't need drugs. I'm high right now!
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2010, 05:04:27 pm »
I have no desire to ever get another one.
at least your philosophy is consistent  :D
remember though, no aspirin or antibiotics for you either ;) :D
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Offline Etay1207

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2010, 07:38:26 pm »
Leatherman, my family is on vacation this week. We are a family of four with two 6 year old's running and screaming.  I need some aspirin!
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2010, 08:30:14 pm »
We are a family of four with two 6 year old's running and screaming.
dogs are sooo much better! :D

don't get me wrong. I like kids. I even have a decent reputation as "Uncle mIkIe".
the best part of that I get to have good times with them - and then send them home!

best wishes for a GREAT vacation! ;)
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Offline Basquo

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2010, 08:53:49 pm »
I've gotten a flu shot every year since 1993, except that I can't remember if I got one in 1996...and that year I got a flu infection that almost killed me. Since then, I've only gotten a confirmed flu once (2002, and it was April; I always get the shot in September or October) so I always recommend it for everyone. Unless you've got the contraindications, go for it! A couple of years ago when the supply was short and my hospital couldn't get it until December, I went to my community center and told them I was in a risk group. They took a saliva sample and a fingerprint first but finally gave me the shot.

Offline tednlou2

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2010, 12:18:50 am »
Looks like HIV+ folks have a poor response to the flu vaccine:
http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/hiv_influenza_vaccine_1667_19030.shtml

I've wondered whether I created a good response to my pneumonia vaccination, because it was given to me when my CD4 was 171--although it bounced back soon after.  I'm suppose to be checked next time to see if I've created a good response to the Heps.  Can they check you to see if you've created a good response to the flu or pneumonia vaccines?  I know there is debate about just how effective the pneumonia vaccine is anyway. 

My brother got H1N1 last year and he said it was the worst thing ever.  It struck on the way to Florida and he thought several times he was going to have to go to the hospital.  Others have said they got it and no big deal.  So, I guess it affects everyone differently like most things.  I don't want it or the regular flu, so I'm getting my vaccination next time I'm at the doc.   

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2010, 12:33:27 am »
My last flu shot was in 2003.  I have no desire to ever get another one.  My partner and one of my sons got the flu and pneumonia shots already this year. 

You're so hardcore
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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2010, 12:40:50 am »
You're so hardcore

I'll bet you $5 he doesn't get the pneumonia shot and another 5 spot for both hep A and B shots.
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2010, 07:51:09 pm »
I'll bet you $5 he doesn't get the pneumonia shot and another 5 spot for both hep A and B shots.

He may be hardcore, but your bets are miserably cheap.
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Offline Hellraiser

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2010, 08:52:44 am »
He may be hardcore, but your bets are miserably cheap.

He's raising like 17 kids and going to school, give him a break.

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2010, 09:31:55 am »
Weed doesn't do anything for me. That's why I don't do it often. Besides I'm a truck driver and my company does random testing. But I'm manic depressive anyway. So I don't need drugs. I'm high right now!

Wow. Untreated Manic-depressive, untreated AIDS,  who sometimes uses pot ....AND drives a truck.

Here's Etay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGmGq7nrvGc


Would be quite hillarious if I wasnt so concerned about the drivers in front of you.

You are more of a handfull than I previously thought.

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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
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Offline Etay1207

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2010, 11:06:35 am »
willywump, I was diagnosed with depression when I was 13. My mom was in the hospital fighting for her life and I was sent to live with relatives in another state. How would you feel coming home from school and finding ur mom laying on the floor unresponsive? Then being told that she may not make it through the night, having to leave your life in NJ and start over in VA during adolescents (a time when hormones are unstable).  My aunt took me to see a doctor and he diagnosed me depressed. YA THINK! So if you think I need meds for depression for an event that happened 16 years ago, I feel very sorry for you.
As far as the untreated AIDS...While you're in the hospital with a mystery illness, I'm on vacation with my family.
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9/08 tcells: 339 vl: 56,120  7/09 tcells: 267 vl: 663,160
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Offline Etay1207

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2010, 11:13:14 am »
Skeebo, no pneumonia shots for me. I already had hepB, so no need for that shot. I got a hepA shot in 2001 (that was before I knew better). So, you only get $7.50
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9/08 tcells: 339 vl: 56,120  7/09 tcells: 267 vl: 663,160
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 no meds and feeling great!

Offline Hellraiser

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2010, 11:28:01 am »
Skeebo, no pneumonia shots for me. I already had hepB, so no need for that shot. I got a hepA shot in 2001 (that was before I knew better). So, you only get $7.50

Before you knew better than what exactly?

Oh please tell me you don't believe in vaccines at all that will be the icing on the cake of your denialism.

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2010, 12:24:47 pm »

As far as the untreated AIDS...While you're in the hospital with a mystery illness, I'm on vacation with my family.

She's got you on that one Wumpy -- those AIDS drugs are what's killing you.  Maybe you should stop taking them.
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2010, 12:52:36 pm »
willywump, I was diagnosed with depression when I was 13. My mom was in the hospital fighting for her life and I was sent to live with relatives in another state. How would you feel coming home from school and finding ur mom laying on the floor unresponsive? Then being told that she may not make it through the night, having to leave your life in NJ and start over in VA during adolescents (a time when hormones are unstable).  My aunt took me to see a doctor and he diagnosed me depressed. YA THINK! So if you think I need meds for depression for an event that happened 16 years ago, I feel very sorry for you.
As far as the untreated AIDS...While you're in the hospital with a mystery illness, I'm on vacation with my family.

Ummm, scuse me. You're the one who said you are Manic Depressive (bi-polar), Untreated Bi-polar is never a good thing, regardless of what brought it on. But now you are saying you are only depressive, which is it? Untreated Manic/Depressive is a dangerous thing, untreated depression, while not good, is not as volatile as M.D

And frankly, Ill take my mystery illness any day over a family vacation with an untreated manic depressive, untreated AIDS family member. But that's just me.

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2010, 01:41:48 pm »
a resounding shout of agreement with willy!!!!!
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05/04/09 CD4 272 (15%) VL 521,190
06/10/09 CD4 127 (13%) VL 626,376 Started Truvada/Prezista/Norvir
07/15/09 CD4 849 (20%) VL 379
09/09/09 CD4 594 (21%) VL 68
01/28/10 CD4 706 (23%) VL 127
05/27/10 CD4 655 (22%) VL 322
07/29/10 CD4 750 (22%) VL 220
10/22/10 CD4 669 (23%) VL 65
12/27/10 CD4 720 (24%) VL 270
03/08/11 CD4 644 (23%) VL 631
07/27/11 CD4 694 (23%) VL <20
03/09/12 CD4 601 (20%) VL UND
11/07/12 CD4 693 (23%) VL UND
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2010, 10:10:25 pm »
Willywump:You are on disability for manic depression. How are you, who is living on welfare, tell me, who works everyday and support myself and my family, how to live? You are on so many meds for BP and still having episodes everyday? I had my last episode 16 years ago! So here I am paying your rent, your food, your meds. You have no right to tell me that how I live my life is wrong as long as you're having episodes, mysterious illnesses, living on disability, and smoking crack! Get a job, then I might have enough respect for you to listen to your criticisms.
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9/08 tcells: 339 vl: 56,120  7/09 tcells: 267 vl: 663,160
11/09 tcells: 71 vl: 498,670 2/10 tcells: 52 vl: 322,000
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2010, 10:25:10 pm »
She's got you on that one Wumpy -- you're a pathetic leech and a welfare queen.  Maybe you should stop taking your AIDS drugs and just depart this cruel world.
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2010, 10:41:33 pm »
Willywump:You are on disability for manic depression. How are you, who is living on welfare, tell me, who works everyday and support myself and my family, how to live? You are on so many meds for BP and still having episodes everyday? I had my last episode 16 years ago! So here I am paying your rent, your food, your meds. You have no right to tell me that how I live my life is wrong as long as you're having episodes, mysterious illnesses, living on disability, and smoking crack! Get a job, then I might have enough respect for you to listen to your criticisms.

First of all you need to get your facts correct before you shoot off your sorry mouth. I am not on disability, and I am not taking any meds for BP, I did at one time for something my doctor thought was BP, but was not.

Oh and by the way I dont smoke crack either.

Now that we got that straight, and since Im not on disability, ahving daily episodes or smoking crack, and your not paying my rent, buying my food and my meds, then I suppose with your reasoning I can in fact tell you how to live your life... Get your ass on HAART! and get back on BP meds as i think your are having an episode right now!

It seems you ahve this holier than thou attitude towards those who are on disability, you even mentioned it in your infamous youtube post reply, along with calling those on these forums all "oppresed and depressed" (but thats another thread). There are  many people who are rightfully on disability, some of them on here. Where do you get off coming in here and spreading your filth about us?

Arent you on vacation with your family? Shouldnt you be spending Quality time with your "kids" rather than making stupid remarks on here?

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11-6-14 CD4- 871, UD
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2010, 02:28:21 am »
Etay, why did you say all those things about Will that aren't true?  When you post stuff that is incorrect, it hurts your credibility.  Now I wonder whether you're actually on HIV meds, up to date on all your vaccines, physicals, etc.  I don't know what to believe now.  After saying untrue things, maybe you're really the model HIV patient.



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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2010, 02:57:47 am »
Etay, why did you say all those things about Will that aren't true?  When you post stuff that is incorrect, it hurts your credibility.  Now I wonder whether you're actually on HIV meds, up to date on all your vaccines, physicals, etc.  I don't know what to believe now.  After saying untrue things, maybe you're really the model HIV patient.

Trolls troll.

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2010, 04:25:48 am »
Yes I know.. the mods told us to be patience with him, he's just misguided, he's not, I repeat, NOT, a denialist, or perhaps just a "misguided" dissident.. whatever.

Yet all he ever does in our forums is to butt in whenever there are discussions about symptoms, OIs, etc and his posts, in essence, are always the same: I am not on meds, I have a CD4 count of two digits and yet I am as healthy if not healthier than someone who's not HIV+. If anything it seems he's even more careless about his health than a normal healthy person should be.

And he's active in denialist forums, has participated in denialist conferences and even brought in some of the most famous denialists through webcam to give talks to the HIV support group he runs in his church. And not to mention his (in)famous Youtube channel.

So what is he doing here? And is it surprising that he said what he said in his last post.. cos all along it's probably what he thinks of all of us. If the evidences don't march, he might as well make them up. Isn't that what denia.. sorry, dissidents, tend to do?
Aug 07 Diagnosed
Oct 07 CD4=446(19%) Feb 08 CD4=421(19%)
Jun 08 CD4=325(22%) Jul 08 CD4=301(18%)
Sep 08 CD4=257/VL=75,000 Oct 08 CD4=347(16%)
Dec 08 CD4=270(16%)
Jan 09 CD4=246(13%)/VL=10,000
Feb 09 CD4=233(15%)/VL=13,000
Started meds Sustiva/Epzicom
May 09 CD4=333(24%)/VL=650
Aug 09 CD4=346(24%)/VL=UD
Nov 09 CD4=437(26%)/VL=UD
Feb 10 CD4=471(31%)/VL=UD
June 10 CD4=517 (28%)/VL=UD
Sept 10 CD4=687 (31%)/VL=UD
Jan 11 CD4=557 (30%)/VL=UD
April 11 CD4=569 (32%)/VL=UD
Switched to Epizcom, Reyataz and Norvir
(Interrupted for 2 months with only Epizcom & Reyataz)
July 11 CD=520 (28%)/VL=UD
Oct 11 CD=771 (31%)/VL=UD(<30)
April 12 CD=609 (28%)/VL=UD(<20)
Aug 12 CD=657 (29%)/VL=UD(<20)
Dec 12 CD=532 (31%)/VL=UD(<20)
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Offline phildinftlaudy

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2010, 04:33:49 am »
Yes I know.. the mods told us to be patience with him, he's just misguided, he's not, I repeat, NOT, a denialist, or perhaps just a "misguided" dissident.. whatever.

Yet all he ever does in our forums is to butt in whenever there are discussions about symptoms, OIs, etc and his posts, in essence, are always the same: I am not on meds, I have a CD4 count of two digits and yet I am as healthy if not healthier than someone who's not HIV+. If anything it seems he's even more careless about his health than a normal healthy person should be.

And he's active in denialist forums, has participated in denialist conferences and even brought in some of the most famous denialists through webcam to give talks to the HIV support group he runs in his church. And not to mention his (in)famous Youtube channel.

So what is he doing here? And is it surprising that he said what he said in his last post.. cos all along it's probably what he thinks of all of us. If the evidences don't march, he might as well make them up. Isn't that what denia.. sorry, dissidents, tend to do?
I agree - and at the risk of pissing off the mods - if anyone else spoke the way ETAY just did to another member, they would have a 7 day time out - if not more - quit damn coddling him and do that - maybe his true purpose of posting on here whether it be "good" or "bad" will come out.  What gives already?????
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10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2010, 06:31:27 am »
I agree - and at the risk of pissing off the mods - if anyone else spoke the way ETAY just did to another member, they would have a 7 day time out - if not more - quit damn coddling him and do that - maybe his true purpose of posting on here whether it be "good" or "bad" will come out.  What gives already?????

Absolutely.  I Think the mods need to get together and make a decision here, either on a timeout or a banning.  Let him take his crap elsewhere. This is BS

EDITED to add:  Enough is enough !

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 Tested positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of Oct 2nd, 2023, Viral load Undetectable.
CD 4 @676 /  CD4 % @ 18 %
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2010, 07:37:38 am »
Etay, your time here has now come to an end. I thought you'd given up on the denialist forum, but you recently posted there... (August 30th)

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The guys over on the AIDSMEDS forums are waiting for me to get sick so they can display me as an example of those who refuse meds. I wonder what they would say my cause of death is if I were to be hit by a bus.

Well mate, watch out for those buses. Good luck and goodbye. You are now permanently banned as a hopeless denialist.

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Offline BlueMoon

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2010, 07:41:54 am »
I agree - and at the risk of pissing off the mods - if anyone else spoke the way ETAY just did to another member, they would have a 7 day time out -

That's not true, several regulars seem to have a license to talk shit.
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2010, 07:50:06 am »
***Edited to remove post, as I jsut saw the banning.**
« Last Edit: September 05, 2010, 07:52:45 am by WillyWump »
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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2010, 08:28:19 am »

***Edited to remove post, as I jsut saw the banning.**

Smart move. ;)
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2010, 03:34:58 pm »
That's not true, several regulars seem to have a license to talk shit.

Not true. Many of us have been warned, given time outs, and even banned. Fortunately, calmer heads eventually prevailed and those who contribute in a positive (no pun intended) way to the forums are allowed, even encouraged, sometimes begged to return.

To the best of my knowledge, this has never been the case with a denialist.


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Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2010, 02:18:45 pm »
Returning to our regularly scheduled program (or perhaps from our regularly scheduled ... ;) )
my doc offered me a shot today before I could even ask.

No reactions/side effects to this year's shot as far as I can tell.
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%
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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2010, 04:49:58 pm »

No reactions/side effects to this year's shot as far as I can tell.

Very good, and I have confirmed that this year's flu vaccine includes protection against swine flu.  One shot does it all.
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2010, 07:01:00 pm »
Returning to our regularly scheduled program (or perhaps from our regularly scheduled ... ;) )
my doc offered me a shot today before I could even ask.

No reactions/side effects to this year's shot as far as I can tell.

Good to hear. I have an appt Friday to get my 3month results so I'm sure she'll stick me then :)

-Will
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Last Labs-
11-6-14 CD4- 871, UD
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2010, 07:30:11 pm »


Well,....The flu shots are not available at the VA yet.  I think I will just go to Walgreens on Friday and get it.


Ray
Current Meds ; Viramune / Epzicom Eliquis, Diltiazem. Pravastatin 80mg, Ezetimibe. UPDATED 2/18/24
 Tested positive in 1985,.. In October of 2003, My t-cell count was 16, Viral load was over 500,000, Percentage at that time was 5%. I started on  HAART on October 24th, 2003.

 As of Oct 2nd, 2023, Viral load Undetectable.
CD 4 @676 /  CD4 % @ 18 %
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Offline littleprince

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Re: Time for another flu shot
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2010, 05:30:41 pm »
I got mine, and the pneumonia shot. Both free here in Oz for us HIVers.

I'm adding that to the list I'm making about the positives of being positive. So far it's a short list.

 


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