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Offline worrieddude

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HIV exposure risk advice
« on: June 03, 2013, 01:14:24 pm »
Hello,
Three nights ago I did the following.

1. "french" kissed a sex worker. Noticed afterwards that my gums were bleeding. Not sure of the condition of her mouth in terms of blood.
2. Got a blow job from her. No noticeable cuts or scrapes on my penis.
3. Put my fingers in her vagina and anus. Noticed small paper cut on my finger. Not bleeding but definitely a fresh nick.
4. I do not know the HIV status of the sex worker.

Went to see a doctor and got a 30 day PEP treatment.

Questions:
1. Do I have a risk of getting HIV?
2. If so, is it low, medium or high?
3. When can I get tested?

Apologies for the query. I have read too much on the net. It seems that there are many conflicting opinions and I'm keen to get it straightened out please. I am extremely anxious and understand that I just need wait it out to discover my status when tested however I would prefer some indication of my risk so as to help me understand my position.

I look forward to advice.

Many thanks.

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Re: HIV exposure risk advice
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2013, 01:36:37 pm »
You had absolutely no risk of getting HIV from any of the events you described.

1) Kissing is NOT a risk. Not only is saliva not an infectious fluid, it contains over a dozen identified proteins and enzymes that neutralize HIV and render it incapable of infecting. No one in the recorded history of the pandemic has been conclusively documented as having gotten HIV from kissing - and please understand that HIV is likely the MOST carefully scrutinized pandemic of this century.

2) Getting a blow job from a person is not a risk for HIV, for the same reasons kissing isn't. Saliva is NOT infectious.

3) Fingering a female is NOT a risk for HIV. Not only is the skin an excellent barrier from infectious disease like HIV (even with a cut on it, hangnails, cuticle damage, et al) but the fluid you are exposed to in fingering is NOT infectious. The infectious fluids in a female vagina are located in the thick cervical mucosa far up in the cervical area - reachable only by an erect penis (not a finer or tongue). Fingering is NOT a risk in any way, shape or form.

Of course, I always think every sexually active person who is not in a mutually mongamous relatiponship ought to get a FULL STD panel (including, of course, an HIV test) at least twice a year. But you do NOT need to test specifically over the events you described.

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Offline worrieddude

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Re: HIV exposure risk advice
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 02:07:31 pm »
Hi there,

Thanks for the prompt and stress relieving response.

A bit paranoid, so please excuse two questions for clarity purposes.

I assume that your advice on fingering in the vagina is the same as per the anus?

Also, when can I get tested, considering I'm on PEP. 6 weeks from the incident?

Many thanks to you and your forum.
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Re: HIV exposure risk advice
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 02:13:28 pm »
Quote from: worrieddude on June 03, 2013, 02:07:31 pm
Hi there,

Thanks for the prompt and stress relieving response.

A bit paranoid, so please excuse two questions for clarity purposes.

I assume that your advice on fingering in the vagina is the same as per the anus?

Also, when can I get tested, considering I'm on PEP. 6 weeks from the incident?

Many thanks to you and your forum.

Anal fingering is no risk either.

You are taking a powerful and potentially toxic round of unnecessary medication.

It boggles my mind that any competant doctor would offer PEP for the situation you described. Either he was misled or he is not competent to dispence HIV medication.

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Re: HIV exposure risk advice
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 02:26:30 pm »
I agree 100 % with JK , the doctor is not competent to dispense HIV meds unless he was misled . I'm not saying you misled him , I have seen plenty of doctors do the same and its shameful and a waste of resources , not to mention it adds the mountain of misinformation out there about how HIV is transmitted . 
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Re: HIV exposure risk advice
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 02:28:51 pm »
Hi - thanks again for the info. I will be sure to inform the Doctor of his misinformation and possible over reaction with regard to prescribing medication.

So when can I get tested? Apologies for all the messages. Based on your feedback and experience, I reckon your answer will be more reliable than asking the Doc or searching the internet.

All the best
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Offline Jeff G

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Re: HIV exposure risk advice
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 02:38:11 pm »
The guidelines are 6 weeks past exposure or 6 weeks past PEP and again at 3 months to confirm the results . Keep in mind you didn't have a risk .
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HIV 101
You can read more about Transmission and Risks here:
HIV Transmission and Risks
You can read more about Testing here:
HIV Testing
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HIV TasP
You can read more about HIV prevention here:
HIV prevention
You can read more about PEP and PrEP here
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