Genvoya and Thailand

[lismind]

Hi I just got my HIV treatment (first time) and the doctor thinks that Genvoya is what I need to start with (or try). I live in NYC.

Since I want to live in Thailand (I prefer Asia) I wonder what would you suggest if there is no generic version for Genvoya (yet) and no one knows when it's gonna be made. Of course I could ask my doctor to get the older drug (like Atripla) but I don't think it's healthier than Genvoya.

I don't want to wait till Genvoya appears in Thailand so what would you recommend?

P.S. I can't afford $1500 for a brand Genvoya monthly.

[BKKKevin]

Below is a list of the drugs available from the Bangkok Red Cross (It is over a year old so other drugs may have been added)

I take a two pill regimen of Truvada & Edurant that is identical to Complera and ends up costing less than $30 month... Going on 5 years ;-)...

If anyone has a link or more recent Red Cross drug list please post it...

ARV Price List at Anonymous Clinic, The Thai Red Cross AIDS Research Centre
(Please kindly note that the price may change or update, please contact Anonymous Clinic for the most updated price)

1. Abacavir 300
Trade Name: ZIAGENAVIR
Price/Tablet: 24.50 THB
Price/Bottle: 1,470 THB (60 tab)

2. Abacavir 600 + Lamivudine 300
Trade Name: KIVEXA
Price/Tablet: 70 THB
Price/Bottle: 2,100 THB (30 tab)

3. Abacavir 600 + Lamivudine 300 + Dolutegravir 50 NEW!
Trade Name: TRIUMEQ
Price/Tablet: 409 THB
Price/Bottle: 12,270 (30 tab)

4. Atazanavir 200
Trade Name: REYATAZ
Price/Tablet: 134 THB
Price/Bottle: 8,040 THB (60 cab)

5. Atazanavir 300 (ATV)
Trade Name: REYATAZ
Price/Tablet: 220 THB
Price/Bottle: 6,600 THB (30 cab)

6. Darunavir 400 mg (DRV)
Trade Name: PREZISTA
Price/Tablet: 97 THB
Price/Bottle: 5,820 THB (60 tab)

7. Darunavir 600 mg (DRV)
Trade Name: PREZISTA
Price/Tablet: 130 THB
Price/Bottle: 7,800 THB (60 tab)

8. Didanodine 250 mg (ddl)
Trade Name: VIDEX*EC 250
Price/Tablet: 81 THB
Price/Bottle: 2,430 THB (30 cab)

9. Didanosine 400 mg (ddl)
Trade Name: VIDEX*EC 400
Price/Tablet: 128 THB
Price/Bottle: 3,840 THB (30 cab)

10. Dolutegravir 50 mg NEW!
Trade Name: TIVICAY
Price/Tablet: 350 THB
Price/Bottle: 10,500 THB (30 tab)

11. Efavirenz 200 mg (MYLAN) (Generic)
Trade Name: EFAMAT
Price/Tablet: 7 THB
Price/Bottle: 210 THB (30 tab)

12. Efavirenz 600 mg (MSD) (Original)
Trade Name: STOCRIN
Price/Tablet: 27.50 THB
Price/Bottle: 825 THB (30 tab)

13. Efavirenz 600 mg (GPO) (Generic)
Trade Name: EFAVIRENZ
Price/Tablet: 6.50 THB
Price/Bottle: 195 THB (30 tab)

14. Efavirenze 600 mg (MYLAN) (Generic)
Trade Name: EFAMAT
Price/Tablet: 7 THB
Price/Bottle: 270 THB (30 tab)

15. Etraverine 200 mg
Trade Name: INTELENCE
Price/Tablet: 171 THB
Price/Bottle: 10,260 THB (60 tab)

16. Lamivudine 150 (3TC)
Trade Name: LAMIVIR
Price/Tablet: 3.50 THB
Price/Bottle: 210 THB (60 tab)

17. Lamivudine 150 (ViiV) Original
Trade Name: EPIVIR
Price/Tablet: 102 THB
Price/Bottle: 6,120 THB (60 tab)

18. Lamivudine 150 + Nevirapine 200 + Stavudine 30
Trade Name: GPO-VIR S30
Price/Tablet: 7 THB
Price/Bottle: 420 THB (60 tab)

19. Lamivudine 150 + Nevirapine 200 + Zidovudine 250
Trade Name: GPO-VIR Z250
Price/Tablet: 8.75 THB
Price/Bottle: 525 THB (60 tab)

20. Lamivudine 300 (3TC)
Trade Name: LAMIVIR
Price/Tablet: 6.75 THB
Price/Bottle: 202.50 THB (30 tab)

21. Lopinavir/Ritonavir 100/25 (LPV/r)
Trade Name: ALUVIA
Price/Tablet: 17 THB
Price/Bottle: 1,020 THB (60 tab)

22. Maraviroc 300 (MVC)
Trade Name: CELSENTRI
Price/Tablet: 189 THB
Price/Bottle: 11,340 THB (60 tab)

23. Nevirapine 200 mg (NVP)
Trade Name: NERAVIR
Price/Tablet: 5.25 THB
Price/Bottle: 315 THB (60 tab)

24. Raltegravir 400
Trade Name: ISENTRESS
Price/Tablet: 227 THB
Price/Bottle: 13,620 THB (60 tab)

25. Rilpivirine 25 (RPV)
Trade Name: EDURANT
Price/Tablet: 6.75 THB
Price/Bottle: 202.50 THB (30 tab)

26. Ritonavir 100 mg (RTV)
Trade Name: NORVIR
Price/Tablet: 36 THB
Price/Bottle: 3,024 THB (120 cab)

27. Saquinavir 500 mg (SQV)
Trade Name: INVIRASE
Price/Tablet: 70 THB
Price/Bottle: 8,400 THB (120 tab)

28. Stavudine 30 mg (d4T)
Trade Name: STAVIR
Price/Tablet: 3.75 THB
Price/Bottle: 225 THB (60 cab)

29. Tenofovir 300 mg (LFASiA) Original
Trade Name: VIREAD
Price/Tablet: 45 THB
Price/Bottle: 1,350 THB (30 tab)

30. Tenofovir 300 mg (GPO) Generic
Trade Name: TENOFOVIR GPO
Price/Tablet: 12 THB
Price/Bottle: 360 THB (30 tab)

31. Tenofovir 300 mg (MYLAN) Generic
Trade Name: RICOVIR
Price/Tablet: 20.50 THB
Price/Bottle: 615 THB (30 tab)

32. Tenofovir 300 mg + Emtricitabine 200 (LFASiA) Original
Trade Name: TRUVADA
Price/Tablet: 70 THB
Price/Bottle: 2,100 THB (30 tab)

33. Tenofovir 300 mg + Emtricitabine 200 (MYLAN) Generic
Trade Name: RICOVIR-EM
Price/Tablet: 26 THB
Price/Bottle: 780 THB (30 tab)

34. Tenofovir 300 mg + Emtricitabine 200 (GPO) Generic
Trade Name: TENO-EM
Price/Tablet: 21 THB
Price/Bottle: 630 THB (30 tab)

35. Tenofovir 300 mg + Emtricitabine 200 + Efavirenz 600
(LFASiA) Original
Trade Name: ATRIPLA
Price/Tablet: 88 THB
Price/Bottle: 2,640 THB (30 tab)

36. Tenofovir 300 mg + Emtricitabine 200 + Efavirenz 600
(MYLAN) Generic
Trade Name: TEEVIR
Price/Tablet: 35 THB
Price/Bottle: 1,050 THB (30 tab)

37. Tenofovir 300 mg + Emtricitabine 200 mg + Elvitegravir 150 mg + Cobicistat
Trade name: STRIBILD
Price/Tablet: 182 THB
Price/Bottle: 5,460 THB (30 tab)

38. Zidovudine 300 + Lamivudine 150 (GPO) Generic
Trade Name: ZILARVIR
Price/Tablet: 8.50 THB
Price/Bottle: 510 THB (60 tab)

39. Zidovudine 300 + Lamivudine 150 (ViiV) Original
Trade Name: COMBID
Price/Tablet: 122 THB
Price/Bottle: 7,320 THB (60 tab)

40. Zidovudine 100 mg (AZT)
Trade Name: ANTIVIR
Price/Tablet: 2.75 THB
Price/Bottle: 275 THB (100 cab)

[TGun]

you can message the thai redcross yourself,, they have a facebook page and have replied to me in the past fairly quickly.

[lismind]

I heard somewhere that Thai red Cross doesn't provide HIV treatment anymore. I hope it's all wrong.

[lismind]

Just went online Thai Red Cross AIDS Research http://en.trcarc.org/Homepage/?page_id=14 dialed number listed there (Tel. (+66) 2-251-6711-5) and it says "the number is not in service".

On FB there is no Thai Red Cross AIDS Research Center just The Thai Red Cross Society - are they the same?

I don't know what's going on...

[joemutt]

I heard somewhere that Thai red Cross doesn't provide HIV treatment anymore. I hope it's all wrong.

Wrong. Beware of rumors and repeating them. I was there Monday. If anything it's become a bigger operation and much more efficient.

[Gladragsguy]

The Thai Red Cross is still very much open. If you do come to Bangkok you can even join a support group. If you need more information about being POZ in BKK you can message to sonowwhat.asia@gmail.com

[Mindless]

I don't want to wait till Genvoya appears in Thailand so what would you recommend?

P.S. I can't afford $1500 for a brand Genvoya monthly.

I live in Thailand and am a Thai Red Cross user: not sure Genvoya is now available, anyways its cousin Stribild is (which is basically the same drug except it contains the previous version of the Tenofovir component). If I'm not wrong (other Red Cross users may correct me), they price for a 30 pills bottle of Stribild is in the range of 5,500 THB, about 180 USD.

M

[Gladragsguy]

GENVOYA is already available here.

[Mindless]

GENVOYA is already available here.

Hi Glad,

thanks for the news! With “here” you mean at TRCARC? Do you know the price per bottle?

Thanks
M

[Gladragsguy]

Message to me here or
sonowwhat.asia@gmail.com

[terrymoore]

Message to me here or
sonowwhat.asia@gmail.com

For the benefit of all readers (even those who may not be posting), can you please share the info?
Thanks!

[joemutt]

For the benefit of all readers (even those who may not be posting), can you please share the info?
Thanks!

I also wonder why this kind of information has to be kept private.
So, to help everyone I emailed someone at Anonymous this morning and they answered just now:
“Genvoya is available now, 2580 Thai baht”.

[Gladragsguy]

Not a secret but as it has only recently become available I didn't have time to find the exact answer but now we have it. I will post it online this week. Also wanted to see how much it was at a second hospital for comparison but again not enough time.

[wardp]

I'm really surprised if that is the price,I thought it was over 12000 a month? Please can someone confirm the price and what company is producing it? Is it generic from India?

[Gladragsguy]

It is confirmed. It is original from GILEAD. I am not aware of any generic version of  GENVOYA being available.

[joemutt]

Not a secret but as it has only recently become available I didn't have time to find the exact answer but now we have it. I will post it online this week. Also wanted to see how much it was at a second hospital for comparison but again not enough time.

right.

[Gladragsguy]

Yeah right...I don't post until I know and can guarantee it. In this one thread we have...'the Red Cross is closed'...'generic GENVOYA'...'a price of 12,000 baht'...amongst others...so right when I know I post.
Not many people are taking it. I haven't met anyone actually. I got my first bottles free so had no idea of the price.  It has been available since late January at the Thai Red Cross. I knew it was somewhere around 3,000 baht. There are doctors in Bangkok that do not know it is even available yet. I will put it on the list of drugs this week. And anyone who really needs to know can call them and find out so it's hardly a secret.

[terrymoore]

So...just left Red Cross and can confirm they have it. 2500thb/month. I will attach their updated meds pricelist later. 

[Mindless]

Thanks Joemutt and Terry,

eventually you got the answer and correctly posted it for the benefit of anyone who may concerned.

Well done

M

[Mindless]

I'm really surprised if that is the price,I thought it was over 12000 a month? Please can someone confirm the price and what company is producing it? Is it generic from India?

Me too I'm pleasantly surprised by the price, especially considering Stribild was sold at 5500 bath/bottle at TRCARC, at least until a few months ago.

[terrymoore]

So...just left Red Cross and can confirm they have it. 2500thb/month. I will attach their updated meds pricelist later.

Here is the Price List of meds from the Thai Red RCross Anonymous Clinic (Bangkok):

Abacavir 300 (Ziagenavir) = THB 1470/bottle (60pills)
Abacavir 300 (Mylan - GENERIC) = THB 810/bottle (60 tablets)
Abacavir 600 + Lamivudine 300 (Kivexa) = THB 2100/bottle (30 tablets)
Abacavir 600 + Lamivudine 300 (MYLAN - Generic) = THB915/bottle (30 tablets)
Abacavir 600 + Lamivudine 300+ Dolutegravir 50 (Triumeq) = THB 12,270/bottle (30 tablets)
Atazanavir 200 (Reyataz) = THB 8,040/bottle (60 tablets)
Atazanavir 300 (Reyataz) = THB 6,600/bottle (30 tablets)
Darunavir 400 (Prezista =THB 5,820/bottle (60 tablets)
Darunavir 600 (Prezista =THB 7,800/bottle (60 tablets)
Dolutegravir 50  (TIVICAY) = THB 10,500/bottle (30 tablets)
Efaviranz 200 (MYLAN -generic) = THB 210/bottle (30 tablets)
Efaviranz 600 (CAMBER -generic) = THB 135/bottle (30 tablets)
Efaviranz 600 (GPO -generic) = THB 195/bottle (30 tablets)
Efaviranz 600 (MSD original - STOCRIN) = THB 825/bottle (30 tablets)
Efaviranz 600 (MYLAN -generic - EFAMAT) = THB 270/bottle (30 tablets)
Etraverine 200 (Intelence) = THB 10,260/bottle (60 tablets)
Lamivudine 150 (LAMIVIR) = THB 210/bottle (60 tablets)
Lamivudine 150 (ViiV Original - Epivir) = THB 6,120/bottle (60 tablets)
Lamivudine 150+Nevirapine 200+ Stavudine 30 (GPO-VIR S30)) = THB 420/bottle (60 tablets)
Lamivudine 150+Nevirapine 200+ Zidovudine 250 (GPO-VIR Z250)) = THB 525/bottle (60 tablets)
Lamivudine 300 (Lamivir) = THB 202.50/bottle (30 tablets)
Lopinavir/ritonavir 100/25 (Aluvia) = THB 1,020/bottle (60 tablets)
Maraviroc 300 (CELSENTRI) =THB 11,340/bottle (60 tablets)
Nevirapine 200 (Neravir) = THB 315/bottle (60 tablets)
Raltegravir 400 (Isentress) = THB 7,680/bottle (60 tablets)
Rilpivirine 25 (Edurant) = THB 202.50/bottle (30 tablets)
Ritonavir 100 (Norvir) = THB 1,080/bottle (30 tablets)
Stavudine 30 (STAVIR) = THB 225/bottle (60 tablets)
Tenofovir 10+Emtricitabine 200+Elvitegravir 150+ Cobistat (Genvoya) =THB 2,580/bottle (30 tablets)
Tenofovir 300 (GPO Generic) =THB 360/bottle (30 tablets)
Tenofovir 300 (LF ASIA Original - Viread) =THB 1,350/bottle (30 tablets)
Tenofovir 300 (MYLAN Generic - Ricovir) =THB 615/bottle (30 tablets)
Tenofovir 300 +Emtricitabine 200 (GPO Generic - TENO-EM)= THB 630/bottle (30 tablets)
Tenofovir 300 +Emtricitabine 200 (CAMBER - TENOF EM)= THB 367.50/bottle (30 tablets)
Tenofovir 300 +Emtricitabine 200 (LFASIA original - TRUVADA)= THB 2,100/bottle (30 tablets)
Tenofovir 300 +Emtricitabine 200 (MYLAN Generic - Ricovir-EM)= THB 780/bottle (30 tablets)
Tenofovir 300 +Emtricitabine 200 + Efavirinez 600 (LFASIA Original - ATRIPLA)= THB 2,640/bottle (30 tablets)
Tenofovir 300 +Emtricitabine 200 + Efavirinez 600 (Mylan Generic - TEEVIR)= THB 1,050/bottle (30 tablets)
Zidovudine 100 (GPO generic - ANTIVIR) = THB 275/bottle (100 tablets)
Zidovudine 300+Lamivudine 150 (GPO generic - ZILARVIR) = THB 510/bottle (60 tablets)
Zidovudine 300+Lamivudine 150 (ViiV original - COMBID) = THB 7,320

note: apologies for any spelling mistakes - copied from a photo/scan. Also, in some cases it should be capsules instead of tablets. Sue me! :-)

Hope this helps!

[Jim Allen]

@Turkey

I've moved your post into its own thread as it's customary to first introduce yourself in own thread as a new member.  https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=73113.msg

Best, Jim

[turkey]

hi allow much genvoya costs,in Thailand any one knows

[virgo313]

Hello Turkey,

Not sure if genvoya (original or generic) is available in Thailand. But one way is to switch to a med that is available in generic which is cheaper in Thailand. Of course, this change would need from a Dr.

Same time, you can look at the list & cost in flight ticket cost + 12 months med cost + small amount of travelling cost. this is like doing a yearly cost. Then you can see if this is within your reach of spending ($$$ per year)

This could be a solution if you are having $$ issue. Hope this suggestion helps. Thanks 

[Mindless]

hi allow much genvoya costs,in Thailand any one knows

Tenofovir 10+Emtricitabine 200+Elvitegravir 150+ Cobistat (Genvoya) =THB 2,580/bottle (30 tablets)

Approx. 85 $ for 30 pills

[turkey]

I also wonder why this kind of information has to be kept private.
So, to help everyone I emailed someone at Anonymous this morning and they answered just now:
“Genvoya is available now, 2580 Thai baht”.

is genvoya,realy available for that price? is it original or generic?

[turkey]

Tenofovir 10+Emtricitabine 200+Elvitegravir 150+ Cobistat (Genvoya) =THB 2,580/bottle (30 tablets)

Approx. 85 $ for 30 pills


thank you. 😍

[turkey]

Hello Turkey,

Not sure if genvoya (original or generic) is available in Thailand. But one way is to switch to a med that is available in generic which is cheaper in Thailand. Of course, this change would need from a Dr.

Same time, you can look at the list & cost in flight ticket cost + 12 months med cost + small amount of travelling cost. this is like doing a yearly cost. Then you can see if this is within your reach of spending ($$$ per year)

This could be a solution if you are having $$ issue. Hope this suggestion helps. Thanks

thsmks dear .🤩

[turkey]

thsmks dear .🤩

hi.is it,really same,as genvoya?  will my doctor knows this medication?  do I need prescription to buy it?  do I need,to see,a doctor there?

[turkey]

sorry what's the medication name like genvoya to tell my doctor

[turkey]

It is confirmed. It is original from GILEAD. I am not aware of any generic version of  GENVOYA being available.

any news dear

[turkey]

Hi All
I'm planning to come to Thailand soon to buy meds. Can anyone Confirm that original GILEAD GENVOYA is available for 85$ please. can I buy 12 bottles or more? do I need prescription? would appreciate replies. and where can I buy? do I come to Bangkok  airport ?  best regards God bless you all. hope soon we get rid off this problem when they find cure . Amin .🙏

[turkey]

Hello i have â,question. is it realy cheap to live in thailand? what part ? Bangkok pattaya  Phuket ?  can some one help with info? like renk food restaurants etc. realy appreciate,that.  have,a great one.

[virgo313]

Hi All
I'm planning to come to Thailand soon to buy meds. Can anyone Confirm that original GILEAD GENVOYA is available for 85$ please. can I buy 12 bottles or more? do I need prescription? would appreciate replies. and where can I buy? do I come to Bangkok  airport ?  best regards God bless you all. hope soon we get rid off this problem when they find cure . Amin .🙏

Hi Turkey,

I will not be able to answer this fully, but here is some info. https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=72937.0 . Website --> http://en.trcarc.org/?page_id=632  Hope this helps. Thanks

[turkey]

thanks so much. poli kala 🤗

[virgo313]

Hi Turkey,

Suggest that you start all over again & STICK to a single post so that we can help to advise you as much as possible. you have been "jumping" from one type of question to another which may be confusing to us.

We understand that $$ is an issue. We know that you are currently on GENVOYA.
You are asking about living in Thailand. You ask if Genvoya is original or not (gilead)
Then you also want to know if "whsts teevir and is it,as good as,genvoya"

First, i think you need to understand the different between generic & "original"
Then you need to know also how if you like to change meds YOU NEED TO do it with/from a DR side (we CANNOT advise you to change)

Why not you start a new post & stick to that single post & we will advise as much as possible. BUT.. but, we will not be able to be your DR and reply like one. Thanks

[turkey]

I'm so sorry I'm.new and,realy dont know,the system well.  so can you please tell me,which medication is like genvoya do I tell my doctor if I can switch.  my genvoya is,150/150/200\10

[virgo313]

Hi Turkey,

Let’s for now not discuss about changing med.
is USD 85-90 per month within your reach/budget?
(Assume that you would want to buy HIV medication from Thailand)

Yes, genvoya is 150+150+200+10. Tks

[turkey]

Hello dear friend
Yes its,in.my budget Can I get,real Genvoya for that price? and how. realy appreciate,your help in this matter I will buy 12 month suply at once.
waiting for,your reply
thsnks and best regards

[virgo313]

Ok. To reply this, please refer to post by “Expat” from the other trend at “Thai Red Cross”

[turkey]

hi sorry I didnt understand how will I find it. can you please attach q link. thanks so so.much x0x0x0

[turkey]

I found it thanks

[virgo313]

Hi Turkey,

You are free to post reply at any post but as you can see it can be “hard to follow”.

Example. If you drive 4 cars into a shopping mall and parked those cars in different parking bays plus different level/floors, it will be difficult to find them if u need to look for your cars.

That’s the only reason I suggest to start a “New post/topic” again and just continue to “chat” on that single “topic”.

Even if we copy a “link” of other posting/topic, you still ask on same post that you have started. (Just 1 car for all enquiry) and not change to that link for enquiry.

Just a suggestion only and not for me to say that you cannot post at other topic. Thanks

[Expat1]

Girls get a room. 

[turkey]

thsnks so much for your help and,explaining . I'm realy new and dont know many things. can you explain how to send private message ?  thamks and best,regards
virgo  expat  I realy appreciate,your help in this serios matter .

[Grasshopper]

On your screen you see on the far left the forummembers name.
Below that you see 2 icons, click on the one to the right...this allows you to send a private message to that person

[turkey]

sorry no such icons just member name

[Grasshopper]

Strange ; you are supposed to be able to send PM's after 3 postings on the forum.
I see that you already posted 23 times.

Perhaps you should open a new topic: "unable to send PM's" , maybe the moderators will pick it up and resolve the problem.
Goodluck

[turkey]

Jim fixed it .😁 thanks,Jim. 🤗