Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
April 19, 2024, 08:13:18 pm

Login with username, password and session length


Members
  • Total Members: 37644
  • Latest: Aman08
Stats
  • Total Posts: 773223
  • Total Topics: 66338
  • Online Today: 716
  • Online Ever: 5484
  • (June 18, 2021, 11:15:29 pm)
Users Online
Users: 2
Guests: 621
Total: 623

Welcome


Welcome to the POZ Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Do I Have HIV?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Author Topic: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?  (Read 8342 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ChaplinGuy

  • Member
  • Posts: 236
  • Eat my left foot
3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« on: May 06, 2007, 07:02:12 pm »

I thought this was an interesting read, as it focuses on the difference between a vaccine to prevent the development of AIDS in those already infected versus what most people hope for (one that prevents infection from ever establishing itself):

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2003693910_sundaymcelrath06.html

Offline milker

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,034
  • Protected phone sex
Re: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2007, 07:59:52 pm »
Interesting article, thanks for posting it :)

Milker.
mid-dec: stupid ass
mid-jan: seroconversion
mid-feb: poz
mar 07: cd4 432 (35%) vl 54000
may 07: cd4 399 (28%) vl 27760
jul 07: cd4 403 (26%) vl 99241
oct 07: cd4 353 (24%) vl 29993
jan 08: cd4 332 (26%) vl 33308
mar 08: cd4 392 (23%) vl 75548
jun 08: cd4 325 (27%) vl 45880
oct 08: cd4 197 (20%) vl 154000 <== aids diagnosis
nov 2 08 start Atripla
nov 30 08: cd4 478 (23%) vl 1880 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feb 19 09: cd4 398 (24%) vl 430 getting there!
apr 23 09: cd4 604 (29%) vl 50 woohoo :D :D
jul 30 09: cd4 512 (29%) vl undetectable :D :D
may 27 10: cd4 655 (32%) vl undetectable :D :D

Now accepting applications from blowjob ninjas™

Offline Jake72

  • Member
  • Posts: 145
Re: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2007, 10:55:13 pm »
"The good news is that we are closer than ever before to finding a safe vaccine that will reduce the impact of HIV infection on persons at risk. It is quite possible that evidence for such a vaccine will be available in three to five years."

Does the writer suggest  that a vaccine could be on the market in 3-5 years or that a promising idea (supported by preliminary evidence) could be found by then?

Offline keyite

  • Member
  • Posts: 514
Re: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2007, 07:16:03 am »
Does the writer suggest  that a vaccine could be on the market in 3-5 years or that a promising idea (supported by preliminary evidence) could be found by then?

The latter, I think. The various stages of a clinical trial and subsequent regulatory approval all take considerable time. Still, an article that inspires a bit of hope...

Offline appleboy

  • Member
  • Posts: 344
  • Just me!
Re: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2007, 08:22:48 am »
Slowly but surely it will come.  I belive in the baby steps which many many have been made ie the many new meds to control hiv, the current research studies into gene therapy etc.  Even though I don't want the HIV I got I am thrilled I have it now and not back in the late 70s early 80s.  My heart goes out to all of them.
AppleBoy
If you are walking down the street and your pants drop to your ankles bend over pick them up and keep on walking!
My Blog

Offline Jake72

  • Member
  • Posts: 145
Re: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2007, 10:08:25 am »
The latter, I think. The various stages of a clinical trial and subsequent regulatory approval all take considerable time. Still, an article that inspires a bit of hope...

That's what I thought.  A little bit of venting, if you'll allow me: what if HIV (or some other virus) were airborne and hit mainstream populations (middle-class families in suburbs) hard?  Would the time involved be as considerable?  Would the many years required for trials and regulatory approval be shortened?

I've wondered what would happen if a bioterrorist attack should unleash a bizarre virus upon the planet.  Would panicky populations accept the answer of "we could have a vaccine/treatment in 10-12 years"?   

Offline keyite

  • Member
  • Posts: 514
Re: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2007, 10:54:44 am »
That's what I thought.  A little bit of venting, if you'll allow me: what if HIV (or some other virus) were airborne and hit mainstream populations (middle-class families in suburbs) hard?  Would the time involved be as considerable?  Would the many years required for trials and regulatory approval be shortened?

I've wondered what would happen if a bioterrorist attack should unleash a bizarre virus upon the planet.  Would panicky populations accept the answer of "we could have a vaccine/treatment in 10-12 years"?   

I share your frustration but ultimately it takes time to establish efficacy and side effects. Accelerating that process is not without risks - the public would be very quick to express their condemnation if (a) it turned out not to work properly after all or (b) unacceptable side effects emerged over the medium- or long-term. Remember thalidomide babies?

Still, if I remember right, AZT pioneered by going through approval much faster than any drug before it. Of course, that was absolutely necessary, but again, only now do we know it is one of the main drugs causing lipodistropy.

Offline Miss Philicia

  • Member
  • Posts: 24,793
  • celebrity poster, faker & poser
Re: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2007, 11:05:29 am »
While the article is hopeful at its basest it's an opinion article, not actual unbiased news article, by someone who is an admitted participant in the "vaccine" in question.  Color me somewhat skeptical -- not about the concept or the eventuality, but the timeframe; absent of some better 3rd party reporting.  This is nothing more than PR disguised as news IMO.

Plus I don't know HOW many things like this I've read over the past 15 years.
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

Offline thirtysomething

  • Member
  • Posts: 124
Re: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2007, 08:52:37 pm »
The article does give some hope that progress is underway and vaccine development can be achievable in near future. I'm not sure if it will be in 3-5 years though. Let's keep our fingers crossed!

Offline Central79

  • Member
  • Posts: 527
Re: 3-5 years: vaccine for already infected?
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2007, 06:13:02 pm »
Interesting article. Thanks for posting.

Personally, I'm pretty optimistic about HIV research - especially new drugs, RNA interference, gene therapy and other approaches. I am not optimistic about a therapeutic vaccine. I don't think that it will offer long-term control of HIV, or a functional "cure". I don't think that educating the immune system to avoid the HIV mutating enough to escape control of the immune system is a long-term solution.

Politically, AZT was approved quickly because quite a lot was already known about it - it was developed in 1964 to treat cancer, but was shelved because it wasn't so hot and had an unacceptable side effect profile! So they used it for HIV/AIDS in 1985.

It's interesting what comes around. Keyite mentioned thalidomide, which is now being used to treat cancer!

M.

PS - I actually believe this 3-5 year timeframe. It's because of the ease of recruiting HIV+ people into a vaccine study, which I think has made things faster. And because it's not as scientifically difficult as an preventative HIV vaccine.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2007, 06:15:14 pm by Matt Mee »
Diagnosed January 2006
26/1/06 - 860 (22%), VL > 500,000
24/4/06 - 820 (24.6%), VL 158,000
13/7/06 - 840 (22%), VL 268,000
1/11/06 - 680 (21%), VL 93,100
29/1/07 - 1,020 (27.5%), VL 46,500
15/5/07 - 1,140 (22.8%), VL not done.
13/10/07 - 759 (23.2%), VL 170,000
6/11/07 - 630 (25%), VL 19,324
14/1/08 - 650 (21%), VL 16,192
15/4/08 - 590 (21%), VL 40, 832

 


Terms of Membership for these forums
 

© 2024 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.