WTH ! Vampire facials

[Jim Allen]

WTF is wrong with people

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/vampire-facials-at-new-mexico-spa-may-have-exposed-customers-to-hiv/

A "vampire facial" is a non-surgical facial where a patient's blood is drawn and then components of the blood are injected back into the face using micro needles. The procedure attracted some buzz after being popularized by celebrities like Kim Kardashian.

[Jim Allen]

The headline overreacting news aside, why the fuck would anyone want to draw their blood and than inject it back into their face??

Also why would I want my old blood back? If it was not doing the trick in the first place why have it back?

This sounds a lot like that fad of sticking a wasp nest up your box we saw a few years ago, is this the next thing ?the wasps were fed up so now its injecting blood instead 

it all sounds mental

The wasp nest in your vagina fad; https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=66529.msg727618#msg727618

[Jim Allen]

Ill be honest when my mate said "Did you see that about vampire facials?" My mind thought he was on about some nasty oral sex

[CaveyUK]

Well the article doesn't say exactly why there is an HIV/Hep risk, but presumably they could have re-used needles across customers.

I'm with you on the 'what the fuck?' part of it. I suppose it is an ignorant extrapolation of the 'plasma rich injections' that some althletes use to allegedly aid recovery. Of course with those, the blood taken is treated via a centrifuge before being injected back. This sounds like a fad which is loosely based on the logic behind that I suspect.

It's all madness of course.

[Jim Allen]

Well the article doesn't say exactly why there is an HIV/Hep risk, but presumably they could have re-used needles across customers.

Indeed drawing blood into vacuum and injecting, reusing that is a no-no, if its not that then its just the usual overreaction.

I'm with you on the 'what the fuck?' part of it. I suppose it is an ignorant extrapolation of the 'plasma rich injections' that some althletes use to allegedly aid recovery. Of course with those, the blood taken is treated via a centrifuge before being injected back. This sounds like a fad which is loosely based on the logic behind that I suspect.

It's all madness of course.

Agreed, its utter madness.

[MadDog125]

As an American I apologize for Los ageles.  I lived in California for three years.  There not right out there.  Someone probably read about Elizabeth Bathory or something and said cool.  This is the same place where another celeb wanted to use surgical sedative a sleep aid. 

The really nutty part is how many people believe in something because someone famous did.

[Jim Allen]

The follow up on this story.

My question remains:

Why the fuck would anyone want to draw their blood and than inject it back into their face?? Also why would I want my old blood back? If it was not doing the trick in the first place why have it back?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6973771/Vampire-facials-gave-HIV-two-New-Mexico-spa-clients-officials-warn.html

Last year, VIP Spa in Albuquerque, New Mexico was shut down after health department officials found that its need practices were risky

Since September, two spa clients who had vampire facials have been diagnosed with the same HIV strain

So far, 100 former clients have been tested, but the New Mexico Department of Health is urging anyone that had any kind of injection service get tested

[Hope4life]

Unbelievable. and nasty... just on a lighter note if someone want more positivity in their aura they can try that with my blood. Because I am extra positive.   

[Jim Allen]

Unbelievable. and nasty... just on a lighter note if someone want more positivity in their aura they can try that with my blood. Because I am extra positive.   

  I should not laugh, but I could not help myself.

[leatherman]

if someone wants more positivity in their aura they can try that with my blood. Because I am extra positive. 

ROFLMAO 

[Hope4life]

Hehe  ... Sorry but me too couldn't resist myself to write something like that.. 

[Jim Allen]

This news story is trending again. 6 years later, nothing new except they have three suspected cases not two.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vampire-facial-hiv-new-mexico-infection-cdc/

[leatherman]

one spa client tested positive for HIV while traveling abroad in 2018. Another tested positive for HIV during routine tests for life insurance in 2018, while a third did not find out she had HIV until a year ago, when hospitalized with an AIDS-related illness
. . .
While the CDC report didn't name the unlicensed spa, the New Mexico Department of Health in 2018 had shut down the VIP Spa in Albuquerque after state inspectors found practices that could potentially spread blood-borne infections, including HIV, to clients.

did the CDC not follow up with all the clients? Did she refuse or ignore notifications? Was this incident not reported enough that this third person was left out of notification? Usually American health departments are pretty hard-core with follow up of sexual partners or those who may have been put at risk.

Wonder if she knew about this risk but just didn't get tested? While I can empathize and sympathize with that sentiment, I would have hoped that that kind of attitude had been left behind in the 90s. Regardless what a sad hard way to get a diagnosis that late. Thankfully for her future, it's not the 90s.

[Jim Allen]

did the CDC not follow up with all the clients? Did she refuse or ignore notifications? Was this incident not reported enough that this third person was left out of notification? Usually American health departments are pretty hard-core with follow up of sexual partners or those who may have been put at risk.

Wonder if she knew about this risk but just didn't get tested? While I can empathize and sympathize with that sentiment, I would have hoped that that kind of attitude had been left behind in the 90s. Regardless what a sad hard way to get a diagnosis that late. Thankfully for her future, it's not the 90s.

I don't know and nothing would surprise me, it's the CDC ...  One of the last globally to acknowledge the fact that a suppressed VL means you can't pass on HIV, so just a few decades behind and let's not get started on kissing.

Anyhow, I had a read:

CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7316a3.htm?s_cid=mm7316a3_w

Four of the five patients with confirmed spa A–related HIV infections received at least one PRP with microneedling facial treatment at spa A during May–September 2018.

Two of the patients in this cluster (a man and a woman) were engaged in a sexual relationship before and after their diagnoses. Sexual partners of two other patients received negative HIV test results after their partners’ diagnoses, and the remaining patient reported having no sexual partner at the time of diagnosis.

Before receiving a diagnosis of confirmed HIV infection, two of the five patients had previously received a positive rapid HIV test result during routine evaluations for life insurance, one in summer 2016, and the other in fall 2018; however, only one patient reported being notified of the positive screening test result and subsequently had their HIV diagnosis confirmed by a primary care provider in winter 2019.

The other patient received a confirmed HIV diagnosis after hospitalization with an AIDS-defining illness in fall 2021. One patient received their HIV diagnosis in spring 2023 after hospitalization with an AIDS-defining illness.

The two patients who were engaged in a sexual relationship had stage 3 or chronic HIV infections, indicating that their infections were likely attributed to exposures before receipt of cosmetic injection services. The other three patients in this cluster had no known social contact with one another, and no specific mechanism for transmission among these patients was confirmed.

 

[BKKKevin]

This is ridiculous!...
This will only work with the blood of your enemies!...