Food sharing

[Worriedman9987]

Dear Jim,

Thanks a lot for all the knowledge/advice you are sharing in this forum.
This incident happened to me 1 week ago.
My friend ate half of pizza and feed the balance to me.
I didn’t see any blood. I was ok until 2 days ago I read an article saying, ‘pre-chewed food is hiv risk’.
I’m sorry if my question is silly.
Pls advice.

[Jim Allen]

Zero HIV risk to you.

Here's what you need to know to reduce your HIV risks:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier-acquired STIs. So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms; testing is the only way to know.

Kind regards

Jim

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[Worriedman9987]

Thanks Jim.
Sorry to ask, is it because the hiv blood on that pizza  (assuming there is blood from my friend mouth) will die since it’s expose to air?
I’m asking because it happened so quick where he bite the pizza and the balance he immediately feed me.

[Jim Allen]

Exposure to the environment is only partly the reason why it's not a risk.

In addition saliva is hostile towards HIV breaking down the receptors needed by HIV to infect, there is also a lack of quantity and route as you are an adult not a baby.

[Worriedman9987]

Hi Jim,

Sorry to trouble you.
Today I went for pedicure. The lady tried to peel my skin and accidentally peel abit deep. Immediately my toe start bleeding. I have to put plaster.
Is it consider deep?
Is it a hiv risk if the tool used has other customer’s blood?
I doubt they clean the tools cuz the shop looks abit old. 
Sorry again if it silly question

[Jim Allen]

It's not an HIV risk

[Worriedman9987]

Hi Jim,

Thanks a lot for your reply.
I took 7 day’s subscriptions because I want to gt more things to clarify.
I went to a HIV doctor in my country. According to him, it’s a risk. It seems it’s same as needle prick which the transmission rate is 0.3%. He asked me to take PEP for this incident. When I asked why, he said it because I have blood due to the injury and it’s consider as deep injury. However I decided not to take.

May I know why you said it’s not a risk? What if there is blood on the cutter they used from previous customer? Does deep injury like mine increase the risk?

I have read some of your replies and truly understand that you get annoyed by questions like mine. Im very sorry in advance for that. Im just too paranoid after this incident and couldn’t sleep.

[Jim Allen]

I wish I could say that I don't belive a doctor said that but I know some doctors still think shaking hands is a low HIV risk...

0.3% is the occupational setting risk to healthcare workers, and it doesn't apply to as you didn't pull a hollow needle from a patient's arm and directly get a needle stick.

So to explain, hollow needles are a risk sometimes, in non-occupational situations when sharing hollow needles (syringes) during drug use due to the volume of fluids containing HIV that are kept within a vacuum, so they are not exposed to the environment that is then injected within a short time directly into the bloodstream.

However, HIV is so fragile that even accidental needle pricks with discarded hollow needles in community situations have not resulted in a single confirmed case of someone acquiring HIV in 40+ years. So the needle stick injuries in the community resulting in HIV being acquired are just myths.

In occupational settings (Hospitals), needle stick injury is a minor HIV risk, 0.3% in theory. However, the true figure is less than that, and it's related to the hollow needle sticks containing still viable HIV directly from the patient to the healthcare worker.

In your situation, there was no hollow needle, just a pedicure cutter exposed to the environment. HIV on the cutter and tools would degrade in contact with the environment outside of the human body, and the whole situation lacks any of the environmental or biological conditions needed for you to acquire HIV, including route, as your peeled skin injury and cut foot isn't a route for HIV either.

Move on with your life.


Needle stick risks:

https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/needlestick-injuries-discarded-needles-and-risk-hiv-transmission

https://www.beintheknow.org/news-and-blogs/5-weirdest-hiv-transmission-myths-ever

[Worriedman9987]

Hi Jim,

Thanks again for detailed explanation.
Just to update you :
1) The injury I gt was at bottom of the nail-cuticle (the skin connected to my nail). While they removing the dead cell, they accidentally peel the skin. So when I pull my skin, I can white colour skin with blood. Does this injury have direct access to bloodstream ?
2) do you consider my exposure as no risk or low risk?

Kindly pls help me to answer these 2 questions. After this no more questions and I will move on.
Thanks again Jim.

[Jim Allen]

Asked and answered already

You need to read and apply the information already provided to you

[Jim Allen]

HIV is fragile, the receptors corrode once exposed outside of the human body leaving it unable to infect, on top of that there was no exposure to volume or route for HIV to cause infection, so, you had no HIV risk from this event unless you had been sharing syringes or had a knife fight with the pedicurist, and you were both bleeding half to death into each other.

And to put the latter in perspective, if you were bleeding half to death into each other wounds that required urgent medical care, you would not be posting here about it and if you did I would still tell you to forget about HIV as a concern.

Move on with your life.

[Worriedman9987]

Hi Jim,

Thanks a lot for your very assuring reply. Very detailed and help me to be calm.
I will move on. Thanks again for the wonderful service you are doing here.
God bless you.

[Jim Allen]

You're welcome.