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Author Topic: Should I be offered PEP?  (Read 2567 times)

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Offline worriedquitebadly

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Should I be offered PEP?
« on: September 26, 2017, 09:01:50 am »
Hello All,

I am personally a little concerned that I've not been offered PEP at all after going to A & E and contacting a sexual health clinic.

Less than 24 hours ago I saw a sex worker. The things that were done included rimming her oral and vaginal oral.

There was nothing more than this but the concern is she had not washed since her previous meet, I notice about 5 mins in and asked and she just admitted it, the subject of who she had sex with was unknown to have or not and she is also unknown.

The hospital and health clinic both so the chances are very minimal, but all there online material says that if less than 72 hours ago you have oral contact with semen or vaginal and are unsure to seek help, I also have a small cut on my gum which I made known, but they still decided in their opinion there is very little risk, and I told them she is an escort too.

Please can you tell me your thoughts.

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2017, 09:46:44 am »
HIV is sexually transmitted through unprotected anal and vaginal intercourse.
While I will not comment on what you have read on other sites I will agree with your doctor, PEP is not recommended because you had no risk.

Other STIs are much easier to transmit so check for all on a regular basis.

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2017, 09:52:05 am »
Thanks for the response, does anyone know the kind of ratio of risk? IE 1 in 1000?

So I really probably got away with it here?

Yes I check sti in two weeks, I feel like a total idiot

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2017, 10:02:11 am »
The fluid a woman produces when excited is not infectious and your mouth is another barrier.
It contains dozens of proteins and enzymes that damage the virus and leaves it unable to infect. If these were your only concerns it is safe to move on.

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2017, 10:22:41 am »
My concerns are the semen that was there from her previous encounter 30 mins before me

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2017, 10:23:02 am »
Thank you by the way, sincerely

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2017, 10:35:31 am »
You're very Welcome !
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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2017, 11:44:30 am »
And sorry, just to further clarify, the fluid a woman produces would stop the semen being a risk too me also?

Thanks

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2017, 12:00:01 pm »
The fluid a woman produces when excited is not HIV infectious and on top of that any fluid you came (no matter what the source) outside the human body was not a risk.

"""My concerns are the semen that was there from her previous encounter 30 mins before me"""

Once HIV is exposed outside the human body, in contact with air and the environment the outer receptors are corroded leaving it unable to infect you.

You had no risk whatsoever from what you posted here. None.

Simply move on with your life, continue to use condoms for intercourse and out of a routine test at least yearly for STI's including but not limited to HIV.

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2017, 12:09:50 pm »
I could kiss you all...!

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2017, 12:11:09 pm »
You're welcome.

Look I have just reread your thread and the concerns raised.

Wade has correctly given you all the information needed but I will sum it up for you in one post so you have it all in one go.

I am glad and agreed with Wade that they did not offer you PEP, the reason is you had no risk to worry about.

Rimming is not a HIV risk, either given or receiving and as for the cunnilingus it is also not a HIV risk. See the fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from the Bartholin's glands, this is a lubricating fluid and does not have any more hiv present than other bodily secretions such as saliva, sweat or tears. Saliva, sweat and tears are not infectious fluids.

The fluids on the bed were not HIV infectious towards you either, even if they had been from a HIV positive person.  Its simple once HIV is exposed outside the human body, in contact with air and the environment the outer receptors are corroded leaving it unable to infect you.
 
So best thing you can do is carry on with life, you had no exposure and nothing to worry about.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

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Kind regards

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 01:18:48 pm »
Sorry just re read and just to add Jim the fluids were in / on her, not on the bed. Thanks

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Re: Should I be offered PEP?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2017, 06:15:05 am »
Even than its not a risk. She could have been bathing in fluids and it would not be a risk to you.

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