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Author Topic: HIV Treatments: price per country  (Read 44429 times)

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Offline minismom

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2009, 10:50:03 pm »
I just picked up Mim's 2nd refill of Epzicom.  The pharmacy left the price tag on the box: $944.86 for 30 pills (1 month supply).  I just about fainted!

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Offline markaj

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2009, 03:00:46 am »
BM I got those figures from The British National Formulary...

http://www.bnf.org/bnf/

Infected Jan 08 / diagnosed Feb 08
Feb 08 - CD4 230 (9%) VL 3.5 million
Mar 08 - CD4 440 (6%) VL 660.000
Apr 08 - CD4 420 (11%) VL 3 million
Jun 08 - CD4 200 (7%) VL 3 million
Started Kaletra/Truvada Jul 08
Jul 08  - CD4 250 (14%) VL 23.893
Aug 08 - CD4 410 (15%)  VL 4.313
Switched to Sustiva/Truvada Aug 08
Switched to Reyataz/Norvir/Truvada Sep 08
Diagnosed with Hep C, HIV meds stopped for a bit
Nov 08 - CD4 414 (12%) VL 500.000+
Started Isentress/Truvada Nov 2008
Dec 08 - CD4 381 (17%) VL 1.116
Jan 09 - CD4 534 (20%) VL <50
Started Interferon/Ribavirin Jan 09
Feb 09 - CD4 407 (24%) VL <50
Mar 09 - CD4 360 (28%) VL <50
Apr 09 - CD4 279 (30%) VL <50
Jun 09 - CD4 298 (36%) VL <50
Aug 09 - CD4 303 (35%) VL <50

Offline BM

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2009, 07:31:41 am »
BM I got those figures from The British National Formulary...

http://www.bnf.org/bnf/

Thanks!

Isentress: £647.29
Viread: £255.00
Reyataz: £315.69
Norvir: £94.35

Monthly total: £1312.33. As you say, thanks God for the NHS!

Offline OneMoreGuy

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2009, 12:14:05 pm »
If one reads various earlier postings from people living in the USA, one will see that there are many who have gone bankrupt having to pay for their medical costs. I have read in this Forum plenty of stories of people having to sell all their assets and moving into low income housing or with a family member because they could no longer afford to pay for their meds and their room and board. Financial support for HIV patients also seems to vary by State in the USA, so not every State in the Union offers the same amount of government benefits to HIV patients.

To make matters worse for many Americans, there are millions of uninsured in the USA and insurance companies in America have the right to decline applications from people with pre-existing medical conditions and if someone decides to lie on their insurance application, the insurance company has the legal right to eventually refuse payment on medical treatment if they discover any form of fraud was made, whether it was intentional or unintentional.

In the UK, the NHS certainly makes life easier for anyone needing medical attention.
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Offline aztecan

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2009, 01:23:20 pm »
I started Isentress and Truvada today and was calculating the copays for the upcoming year so I can accurately set aside enough in my flex account to cover it.

My copays in the coming 12 months will be approximately $3,100.

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Offline secretgarden

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2012, 07:47:49 pm »
Wow, 'resident' only, not 'citizen'?  I guess it must be nearly impossible for an American to gain 'residency' though?  <just thinking>
Yes, once you live here you can avail of free treatment.
19/03/2008       Cd4 340     VL 50000
07/05/2008       Cd4 340     VL 19000
12/08/2008   Cd4 319   VL 125000
12/11/2008   Cd4 312   VL 20000
28/01/2009   Cd4 271   VL 19500
Started Atripla

Offline northernguy

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2012, 02:49:20 am »
Since I posted this elsewhere I'll add it here.  Med coverage varies in Canada by province.  British Columbia pays the full cost.

Viramune XR = $74.07
Truvada = $798.88
Total = 872.95

Atripla = $2,417.98

Now, what I find interesting is that I've switched to the original 200 mg formulation of Viramune and the cost is $296 for 30 days vs. $74.07 for the newer Viramune XR!  Is Boehringer lowballing the retail cost of XR, to get docs to use it instead of regular Viramune, which is going generic? 
Apr 28/06 cd4 600 vl 10,600 cd% 25
Nov 8/09 cd4 510 vl 49,5000 cd% 16
Jan 16/10 cd4 660 vl 54,309 cd% 16
Feb 17/10 Started Atripla
Mar 7/10 cd4 710 vl 1,076 cd% 21
Apr 18/10 cd4 920 vl 268 cd% 28
Jun 19/10 cd4 450 vl 60 cd% 25
Aug 15/10 cd4 680 vl 205 cd% 27
Apr 3/11 cd4 780 vl <40 cd% 30
Jul 17/11 cd4 960 vl <40 cd%33
April 15/12 cd4 1,010 vl <40 cd% 39
April 20/12 Switched to Viramune + Truvada
Aug 2/12 cd4 1040, vl <40, cd% 38
Oct 19 cd4 1,110 vl <40 cd% 41

Offline songs06

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2012, 05:28:04 am »
TURKEY

for my treatment:

Truvada 1074,94 TL - 477.82 Euro
        to goverment: 725,58 TL - 322.53 Euro
Kaletra 805,37 TL - 358 Euro
        to goverment: 543,62 TL - 241.64 Euro

others:
Combivir 650,16 TL - 289.0 Euro
Trizivir (Abakavir + Lamivudin + Zidovudin) 1009,65 TL - 448.80 Euro
Viread 413,25 TL - 183.69 Euro
Stocrin 145,45 TL - 64.65 Euro
Norvir 629,32 TL - 279.74 Euro

so FINAL CONCLUSION: prices are too high for low-middle income country like TURKEY. It looks like Truvada is more expensive in Turkey than United Kingdom. This is quite like a joke.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 05:32:39 am by songs06 »
18.03.2012 - infected.
14.04.2012 - first positive elisa - UD western blot
30.04.2012 - western blot confirmation positive
03.05.2012 - first lab- CD4: 256   VL: 2.3 M
01.06.2012 - sec lab- CD4: 390 (end of ARS)
01.07.2012 - third lab- CD4: 388 VL: 150.000
11.07.2012 - Started Truvada + Kaletra
04.08.2012 - CD4: 401 VL: 3800
30.09.2012 - CD4: 510 VL: 709
04.01.2013 - CD4: 650 VL: UD! (aka 20)
01.04.2013 - CD4: 460 VL: UD
09.2013 - CD4: 510
02.2014 - CD4: 490

Offline Rockin

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #58 on: July 09, 2012, 06:55:44 pm »
Wow...I knew medication was expensive but I never dreamed it was THAT much.

I live in Brazil and I consider moving to another country, as long as I could afford it and get a proper job position and all.

But now I realize that this might be quite difficult  :-\.

Offline Valmont

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2012, 07:42:19 pm »
In Ecuador,

HAART meds are given for free (but these years we had many shortage moments...) by public system.  The over hand is that the attention is the minimum (no resistance test are done here), checking each 6 months, labs only for the really important things, CD4 or VL labs can takes some weeks because of lack of reagents or problem with equipment, and so on...  Anyway, I think system here is no so bad...  I´m very happy no to pay anything in regards to my HIV infection (except a resistance test done a few weeks ago)...

I receive Efavirenz + Tenofovir/Emtricit in two pills, from a Indian labs...


VIRADAY is available for USD 168,48 for 30 tabs, but the private importador has not all the time...
ISENTRESS, from MERCK costes USD 800 for 30 tabs (with a friendly price...).  It is not considered as an option for first line here because of the cost...

I hope my body will be ok with Efavirenz for a long time...

It is incredible to see that we have better conditions here than in high income countries...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

Offline mecch

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #60 on: August 10, 2012, 05:04:35 pm »
Merck sorts the world into 4 categories. Ecuador is on second lowest list - "Lower Middle Income Countries".
http://www.merckresponsibility.com/downloads/New-2011-country-classiffication.pdf

I'm surprised that is the price for Isentress in Ecuador! That sucks!  I think its 60 USD a month for the countries on the lowest list - "access countries".
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Offline Valmont

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Re: HIV Treatments: price per country
« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2012, 01:01:51 am »
Thanks for the info Mecch...   Well maybe it is because of our health system... 

Health system buy ISENTRESS and use it in some situation, they may have it in the condition you refears to.

My doc told me that it is not here a first line option, but that It can be bought directly to the brand, in a private negociation...  We called the representant together to consider availability in the country and the cost...  He doesn´t know anyone who bought it by his own (anyway, he only knew one people who bought VIRADAY by his own... 

If everything goes good at it does now, I´ll be the second because I don´t want to be exposed to meds storage we sometimes have here, and my hospital gives me 3 to 5 days meds extra one time for a time, I would feel quieter with always an extra bottle at hope as a reserve of each drug...)

These costes in regards to the country are still quite hight, our minimun salary is around USD 300 a month...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

 


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