Author Topic: At risk? (Read 6531 times)

vladmeer · « **on:** March 11, 2012, 01:26:10 am »

2 days ago, I madeout with another male for a few minutes, barely any tongue.

I unzipped his pants, began to stroke his penis, eventually jerked him off almost to completion (he finished on his own separately).

He also was stroking my dick. Guess this would be called 'mutual masterbation'. He also, as I was turned over to kiss him, would put his hands down my jeans, into my underwear, and basically caress the space inbetween my balls and asshole.

My only concern is that he maybe had precum on his fingers, if somehow it got near my urethra/asshole.

I realize it seems far-fetched. Let me know if you feel so too. I don't remember precum or touching any anyway. I was just worried that if he was stimulating my ass, it could have forced something inside me or something.

Thanks!

P.S. I do not believe he fingered me. I think I would have felt that, so I think with most certainty that he did not.

RapidRod · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2012, 07:05:32 am »

You never had an exposure. HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

Ann · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2012, 08:17:42 am »

Vlad,

Hiv transmission in the ways you're worried about IS far-fetched.

Mutual masturbation is not a risk and neither is fingering.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once out side the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. For this reason, masturbation and fingering are not risks.

Kissing is also not a risk. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER KISSING, FINGERING OR MASTURBATION, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann

vladmeer · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:04:21 am »

So I'm 100% ok? I try and be as safe as possible but yet in still beating myself up over this.

Andy Velez · « **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:27:14 am »

Yes, you are 100% all clear in relation to this particular occasion.

You ought to re-read what Ann said to you. Protecting yourself in relation to the sexual transmission of HIV is not complicated. The only ONLY confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. That's it. So as long as you consistently without exception always use condoms for those activities you will be effectively protected.

You are worrying needlessly this time.

vladmeer · « **Reply #5 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:33:41 am »

Thank you. I considered this to be safe sex but I just wanted to make sure.

Andy Velez · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:38:41 am »

Well it was. And it's good for you to be paying attention to protecting your health.

Remember also that other STDs are much easier to acquire than HIV, so at least an annual checkup with a full STD panel is a good idea if you are going to be sexually active.

vladmeer · « **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:45:48 am »

Thanks again!

Now to get this off my mind... haha

vladmeer · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2012, 02:16:57 pm »

Any other opinions?

RapidRod · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2012, 02:32:36 pm »

Quote from: vladmeer on March 11, 2012, 02:16:57 pm

Any other opinions?

You've received all the responsces that you are going to get. You never had an exposure.

vladmeer · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2012, 02:41:40 pm »

Oh. I wanted to hear from jkin

vladmeer · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2012, 02:41:51 pm »

or matty

RapidRod · « **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2012, 02:47:00 pm »

Their answers will not be any different than the responses that you've already received.

vladmeer · « **Reply #13 on:** March 11, 2012, 02:49:19 pm »

Ok. If they do decide to write, I will be here to see. Thx

Andy Velez · « **Reply #14 on:** March 11, 2012, 03:24:43 pm »

It's time for you to get on your way. You don't have a problem with HIV. And you don't need to be collecting more responses.

Now get on with your life and use condoms when you should everytime.

vladmeer · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2012, 03:44:00 pm »

Sorry one last thing. Does it matter if my asshole was bleeding a bit? Maybe? I just went to the washroom and noticed a tiny tiny tiny bit of blood on the tissue. I've never had anal sex before so I don't know where the blood came from. Maybe from fingering myself? Wiping too hard? Just concerned.

Ann · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2012, 03:57:25 pm »

Vlad,

None of those details change the fact that YOU WERE NOT AT RISK FOR HIV INFECTION!!!

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Please consider yourself warned!

Ann

vladmeer · « **Reply #17 on:** March 11, 2012, 07:10:54 pm »

Why doesn't it change

Andy Velez · « **Reply #18 on:** March 11, 2012, 07:16:44 pm »

Because you did not have unprotected vaginal or anal intercourse. Which are the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission for HIV.

Now get on your way. HIV is not your problem.

vladmeer · « **Reply #19 on:** March 11, 2012, 07:28:32 pm »

Last question - where are these confirmed ways of HIV transmission stated

Andy Velez · « **Reply #20 on:** March 11, 2012, 07:34:02 pm »

Read lesson on transmission.

vladmeer · « **Reply #21 on:** March 11, 2012, 07:53:22 pm »

I do not see fingering on there?

RapidRod · « **Reply #22 on:** March 11, 2012, 08:08:37 pm »

Quote from: vladmeer on March 11, 2012, 07:53:22 pm

I do not see fingering on there?

Because fingering isn't a risk of HIV transmission.

vladmeer · « **Reply #23 on:** March 11, 2012, 08:27:25 pm »

So why isn't it listed alongside other safe sex activities?

RapidRod · « **Reply #24 on:** March 11, 2012, 08:33:05 pm »

I'm sure it says masturbation now doesn't it?

Digital-Anal or Digital-Vaginal Sex

Digital-anal or digital-vaginal sex is the clinical term for "fingering" either the anus or the female genitals (including the vagina). While it is theoretically possible that someone who has an open cut or fresh abrasion on his or her finger or hand can be infected with HIV if coming into contact with blood in the anus or vagina or vaginal secretions, there has never been a documented case of HIV transmission via fingering.

vladmeer · « **Reply #25 on:** March 11, 2012, 08:51:23 pm »

But it's the opposite way. I did not finger. I got fingered. Where does it discuss that?

RapidRod · « **Reply #26 on:** March 11, 2012, 09:14:19 pm »

■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result, or no-risk situation will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

vladmeer · « **Reply #27 on:** March 11, 2012, 09:43:42 pm »

No wait answer me please

RapidRod · « **Reply #28 on:** March 11, 2012, 09:48:13 pm »

Quote from: vladmeer on March 11, 2012, 09:43:42 pm

No wait answer me please

Go back and reread the lessons. Safe Sex.

Andy Velez · « **Reply #29 on:** March 11, 2012, 10:26:41 pm »

Neither fingering nor being fingered are risks for HIV transmission.

Re-read what you have been told. HIV is not your problem.

And now I am giving you the 28 day Time Out you were warned about. Don't make the mistake of trying to get around it by creating a new name. We'll spot that and it will get you permanently banned from the site.

Stop making yourself anxious and dramatic when you have no cause for concern right now about HIV. Really.

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