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Author Topic: Cocaine from shared mirror/ surface  (Read 476 times)

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Cocaine from shared mirror/ surface
« on: August 24, 2022, 04:54:41 pm »
I know that similar questions have been answered but the situation described here is slightly different.

A week ago, my boyfriend tried cocaine with some friends and now we are freaking out because of the following situation.
His friends all had their own straws but they used the same surface, a small mirror. The mirror was not clean, with dried white traces from old lines still visible but it was not used for doing cocaine since 15 days before that very evening with his friends. Since it was used 15 days earlier, the mirror was exposed to room temperature. Also, no blood was noticed on the surface but he also did not exactly took a close look.
Because my boyfriend did not have a straw at hand, he poured the line directly from the mirror (after the others were done) onto the palm of his hand and snorted it from there without a straw.
There is a high possibility that some of the powder that his friends left (they used the mirror several times that evening) or that was there from 15 days before that evening also ended up on his palm.

We read that sharing straws is a theoretical risk but did not find anything that refers to the sharing of surfaces such as mirrors, especially assuming that there would have been dried or fluid traces of blood on there that would than be exposed to his nasal mucous membrane. Possibly his nasal passage was traumatized as well.

We are both concerned and would appreciate your assessment if testing for HIV or Hepatitis C is necessary for the two scenarios below.
Assuming

(1) that there would have been traces of dried blood on the mirror (15 days old) from a previous user or

(2) that there was dried or fluid/ fresher blood on the mirror from that evening, maybe coming from a straw that his friends used, touching the surface after being in their (hypothetically bloody) noses.

It was not his cocaine and he only did this one line.
Thanks a lot for your help!

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Re: Cocaine from shared mirror/ surface
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2022, 10:43:13 pm »
Hiya,

Read your post three times, and it's not an HIV risk.

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I'll mention the same thing I do whenever anyone mentions being in a relationship. If you engage in condomless sex with your partner, you are obviously at risk of acquiring HIV. In relationships, condomless sex is often based on trust or past test results; however, this does not prevent HIV, so if condomless sex does occur, you should consider testing more frequently.


Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier acquired STIs.So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms, and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Cocaine from shared mirror/ surface
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2022, 03:26:42 pm »
Hi Jim,

Thanks a lot for your response we are feeling much better now. And sorry for writing so much, we just tried to describe the situation as detailed as possible to enable a good risk assessment.
We are in an exclusive relationship and both got tested. So no risk there.

We trust and appreciate your assessment but would you be so kind to briefly elaborate on your recommendation?

For scenario (1) We would assume that any virus would have been inactivated due to the unfavorable environmental conditions?

Would there be a need to test if we assume that in scenario (2) fluid or dried traces of blood would have entered the nasal passage mixed or together with the powder?

We were mostly concerned because sharing snorting equipment has been classified as theoretical by different doctors but no one talked about surfaces.

Finally, would you recommend testing for HPC?

Thanks a lot!

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Re: Cocaine from shared mirror/ surface
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2022, 03:58:33 pm »
Asked and answered.

It's not an HIV concern. It doesn't meet any of the conditions required to aquire HIV, same lack of conditions as sharing a toilet seat...

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We are in an exclusive relationship and both got tested. So no risk there.

Unless you keep your partner locked up 24/7, and I hope you don't, it's an HIV risk that you choose to accept.

I heard what you posted as a start to sob stories too many times, and I feel zero empathy towards them, so I'll repeat the advice: If you engage in condomless sex with your partner, you are at risk of acquiring HIV. In relationships, condomless sex is often based on trust or past test results; however, this does not prevent HIV, so if condomless sex does occur, you should consider testing more frequently.

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would you recommend testing for HPC?

As part of a standard yearly routine screening, yes.

Also, I'm not going to answer any more questions. If your boyfriend is adult enough to engage in sex and snorting cocaine, then they should be adult enough to post their own questions.

It's hard enough to get a complete picture and understand really what someone's risks are one-on-one without an interfering partner voicing their concerns.

 Consider the topic closed don't post about this again.

« Last Edit: August 25, 2022, 09:52:11 pm by Jim Allen »
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Re: Cocaine from shared mirror/ surface
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2022, 08:22:24 am »
Your posts were removed.

I meant it when I said don't post about this again, and I explained why I am unable to assist you further.  If you post about this again, it will result in a 28-day ban.

Hiya,

Read your post three times, and it's not an HIV risk.

I'll mention the same thing I do whenever anyone mentions being in a relationship. If you engage in condomless sex with your partner, you are obviously at risk of acquiring HIV. In relationships, condomless sex is often based on trust or past test results; however, this does not prevent HIV, so if condomless sex does occur, you should consider testing more frequently.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse correctly and consistently, with no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as safe in terms of acquiring HIV still pose a risk for other easier acquired STIs.So please do get tested at least yearly for STIs, including but not limited to HIV, and more frequently if condomless intercourse occurs.

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms, and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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If your boyfriend is adult enough to engage in sex and snorting cocaine, then they should be adult enough to post their own questions.

It's hard enough to get a complete picture and understand really what someone's risks are one-on-one without an interfering partner voicing their concerns.

Consider the topic closed don't post about this again
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« Last Edit: August 26, 2022, 08:26:23 am by Jim Allen »
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