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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: tiktook82 on July 29, 2011, 02:36:14 pm
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a girl i used to date and has not been together for a year, i am not sure if she is clean or not since the time i broke up with her but anyways she wanted to have sex and i refused to insert my penis without a candom so she started grinding on it and started pointing the tip of the penis on the clit.. i am sure i did not put it in her but she was wet and i think some vaginal fluid touched the tip of the penis while she was touching the clit with the tip of the penis or the opening of her vagina i can't really tell but for sure i did not penetrate.. i am worried that the vaginal fluid have entered the opening of my penis while she was doing what she was doing ? i hope andy answers me and why do u say vaginal secretion on tip of penis is no risk even though it contains hiv virus and i read it takes few hrs for hiv virus to die in a different environment outside the body.
thanks
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First of all, using the term "clean" with regard to HIV status is considered rude and insensitive. Those who are HIV+ aren't "dirty." They simply have a virus. So don't use that kind term again when speaking of someone's status. Among other things it is an insult to everyone on this site who is positive.
Now, your concern... Rubbing or frottage against the clitoris or the vaginal lips is quite different than unprotected vaginal (or anal) intercourse. The virus is very fragile and once exposed to the air is quickly rendered not viable. Additionally, the vaginal fluids which can contain HIV are further up in the vaginal cavity in the cervical area, which is nowhere near where your penis was as you have described the in the incident.
So there's no need for further concern nor for testing. You were not at risk.
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thanks.. did not mean to insult anyone.. i appreciate your help. Again sorry if offended anyone.
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tik,
You said, "i am not sure if she is clean or not since the time i broke up with her" - I'm quite sure she's had a few showers or baths since you split up.
You need to know that it is extremely insulting to refer to a person's hiv status as being clean or dirty. I'm hiv positive and I'm clean, thank you. I shower every day. Do you?
What you describe is commonly called frottage (rubbing or grinding genitals together without penetration), and frottage is NOT a risk for hiv infection.
Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the body during UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.
Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.
You have NOT had a risk for hiv infection.
Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.
To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER FROTTAGE, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.
If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.
Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!
Ann
(who was writing while Andy was writing...)
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Hello,
was wondering if pain the skull of the head has anything to do with HIV.
thanks
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No, it doesn't because you had no risk for HIV. Are you really reading what we are saying to you?
Also, I have merged your threads. It's a rule of the site for members to write only the same thread and not start new ones. Please follow that rule in the future.
You have no cause to be concerned about HIV.