Which Herbs Or Supplement Slows Down HIV.

[greenapple23]

HI Everyone!!!!! Newbie Here

I just wanna know which herbs and supplements help stop OR slow down the viral replication of HIV. i wanna know this in case there comes a time when i don't have access to my meds.

[Joe K]

Only antivirals can treat HIV.  Assuming you are eating properly, you should be getting all the vitamins and minerals that your body needs.  Please save your money, nothing but antivirals will work.

Also, could you please not post in such a difficult font and color.  Some of our members have eyesight issues and your post can be very hard to read for some.

Welcome to the forums.

Joe

[greenapple23]

Oh wow so no natural herb can stop the replication...wow i find that hard to believe.

Ok gotcha. i will use the regular font.

[leatherman]

Oh wow so no natural herb can stop the replication...wow i find that hard to believe.

35+ years of scientific research has proven that only antiretrovirals do anything against HIV. just as anecdotal evidence, you can see by the amount of AIDS deaths in America before 1996 and the huge, huge drop in deaths afterwards with the start of combination therapy (multiple classes of drugs together to inhibit the replica of HIV). So it really shouldn't be hard to believe that it takes some powerful medication to deal with a retrovirus. Of course, if some natural herb would have been found to work, your doctor would have already given you the cure as soon as you were diagnosed. And everybody here would have already been cured and there wouldn't be anybody to talk to you. LOL 

[buginme2]

Oh wow so no natural herb can stop the replication...wow i find that hard to believe.

36 million people have died of hiv worldwide.  Dont ya think if there was an herb that stopped hiv everyone would be taking it?  Think

[mecch]

Oh wow so no natural herb can stop the replication...wow i find that hard to believe.

Ok gotcha. i will use the regular font.

Anyhoo, welcome to the forum.
Have you been diagnosed HIV+ with a Western Blot?
Why don't you introduce yourself a bit.

By the way, where are you reading all this kinda old info about HIV. Or it just whats info you picked up over the years, and you haven't read much yet?

This stuff about AZT and body change issues?  This stuff about herbs and supplements??

Herbs and supplements were a sort of hope out of desperation before there was effective treatment of HIV.

Nowadays there might be some LTS (long-term survivors) and or some special cases of HIV+ folks who might find relief for some side effects or damages done from having HIV for decades, or untreated hiv for a long time, or AIDS diagnosis, or rotten guts and digestive issues, etc.

If you are not in any of these categories or experiences, herbs and supplements are not part of your HIV treatment and furthermore can be counterproductive.  As well as a waste of money....

Someday real scientists may find useful properties in plants, to help fight viruses, who knows... Many plants have antiviral activity, for sure!

But all the brilliant researchers of several decades now, haven't found an effective plant based treatment for our nasty virus - HIV.

In fact, in the 90's and into the 2000's some countries royally screwed their HIV+ populations with false claims about nutrition and plants and supplements.  Rather than having access to shitty and then better medicine.

DEATHS!!!  Many many many many many useless deaths about plants and HIV.  So don't be surprised if you get heavy responses to a casual and ignorant inquiry about "which herbs slows HIV" - because its just the opposite. Plants killed thousands of people.

[greenapple23]

Anyhoo, welcome to the forum.
Have you been diagnosed HIV+ with a Western Blot?
Why don't you introduce yourself a bit.

By the way, where are you reading all this kinda old info about HIV. Or it just whats info you picked up over the years, and you haven't read much yet?

This stuff about AZT and body change issues?  This stuff about herbs and supplements??

Herbs and supplements were a sort of hope out of desperation before there was effective treatment of HIV.

Nowadays there might be some LTS (long-term survivors) and or some special cases of HIV+ folks who might find relief for some side effects or damages done from having HIV for decades, or untreated hiv for a long time, or AIDS diagnosis, or rotten guts and digestive issues, etc.

If you are not in any of these categories or experiences, herbs and supplements are not part of your HIV treatment and furthermore can be counterproductive.  As well as a waste of money....

Someday real scientists may find useful properties in plants, to help fight viruses, who knows... Many plants have antiviral activity, for sure!

But all the brilliant researchers of several decades now, haven't found an effective plant based treatment for our nasty virus - HIV.

In fact, in the 90's and into the 2000's some countries royally screwed their HIV+ populations with false claims about nutrition and plants and supplements.  Rather than having access to shitty and then better medicine.

DEATHS!!!  Many many many many many useless deaths about plants and HIV.  So don't be surprised if you get heavy responses to a casual and ignorant inquiry about "which herbs slows HIV" - because its just the opposite. Plants killed thousands of people.

My introduction to the forum is here: http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=55566.msg649370#msg649370

I have just been reading a lot about HIV to learn more about this disease ever since i got the diagnosis.  i spend most of my free time reading  anything i can about hiv. Some of the stuff i read and watched scared me. Sometimes i think i'm not mentally & emotionally strong enough to handle this disease. But i'm greatful i found this forum so that people who've had the disease for a long time can guide me through what's real and not. There is a Lot of Disinformation circulating on the internet about hiv.

[leatherman]

There is a Lot of Disinformation circulating on the internet about hiv.

amen!
that's why we suggest that people stick to the LESSONS section of POZ and the forums. Those lessons have nearly everything you need to know about HIV. Vetted material And whatever isn't covered in the Lessons, has surely been discussed and vetted here in the forums. Using the SEARCH function or simply starting a new thread is a sure way to find out what you need to know. (You could search about supplements, vitamins, or herbs here and quickly learn which ones could help you be healthier and which ones are just "snake oil". (Just please don't turn into one of those "researching for the cure all the time" people. LOL  )

[greenapple23]

amen!
that's why we suggest that people stick to the LESSONS section of POZ and the forums. Those lessons have nearly everything you need to know about HIV. Vetted material And whatever isn't covered in the Lessons, has surely been discussed and vetted here in the forums. Using the SEARCH function or simply starting a new thread is a sure way to find out what you need to know. (You could search about supplements, vitamins, or herbs here and quickly learn which ones could help you be healthier and which ones are just "snake oil". (Just please don't turn into one of those "researching for the cure all the time" people. LOL  )

thanks i for the advice. i will check the lessons sections asap. thanks a lot greatly appreciated.

[elf]

Melatonin can prevent mitochondrial damage,
melatonin and turmeric have anticancer effects
(but turmeric needs vegetable oil, black pepper and pineapple extract
to enter into human blood stream, otherwise it's discarded in stool and urine,
so it's a ''complicated'' supplement).
Omega-3 / fish oil and aspirin can have anti-inflammatory effect as well
(but they shouldn't be taken together).

Artichoke extract, choline and silybin are good for your liver health.
Taurine and ursodiol are good for your liver health and bile duct health.

I'd recommend vitamin D and magnesium too,
(but not too much calcium).

Any multivitamin is okay if you're a picky eater.
If you eat well, you don't really need it.

[leatherman]

Any multivitamin is okay as well if you're a picky eater.

Interestingly enough, none of these items you mentioned do anything to HIV
but thanks for playing  

[elf]

Interestingly enough, none of these items you mentioned do anything to HIV
but thanks for playing  

Maybe not, but they seem to reduce sub-clinical inflammation and mitochondrial damage
which is present even when HIV is suppressed (and person is ''undetectable'').

[zach]

hair of truvada, tooth of norvir, fresh cut prezista, and root of isentress

i find these work well for my HIV

with plenty of marijuana, plenty... and some scent of patchouli

[elf]

with plenty of marijuana

and ayahuasca

[zach]

  pm sent

[mecch]

Melatonin can prevent mitochondrial damage,
melatonin and turmeric have anticancer effects
(but turmeric needs vegetable oil, black pepper and pineapple extract
to enter into human blood stream, otherwise it's discarded in stool and urine,
so it's a ''complicated'' supplement).
Omega-3 / fish oil and aspirin can have anti-inflammatory effect as well
(but they shouldn't be taken together).

Artichoke extract, choline and silybin are good for your liver health.
Taurine and ursodiol are good for your liver health and bile duct health.

I'd recommend vitamin D and magnesium too,
(but not too much calcium).

Any multivitamin is okay if you're a picky eater.
If you eat well, you don't really need it.

Have you run all these by a doctor to see if they are counter indicated for any specific anti-viral you are on?
Do you think its wise to make blanket recommendations with the "you" when the "you" who is reading may be on a different antiviral combo then you...    hhehehe

anyhoo, not that i have anything against herbs. I daresay it helped in my HEP C infection if it may not have been important in my spontaneous cure, it probably helped keep the organs a bit better in shape.  The spontaneous HEP C cure was from genetics.  According to the Geneva Hospital and University of Geneva Professor. 

And the herbs I took were vetted by him AND by an experience herbologist.

You do seem to know what you are doing for you but how valid are your recommendations to others???

[zach]

ok, life and board just had a strange intersection

black seed oil, recommended to me by a college educated friend from high school. i need to sit this girl down for a talk, i'm worried she's told someone this shit before and they bought it.

i'm sorry yall, i'm gonna take a side here. all that hippy dippy twigs and berries... get a fucking grip. shut up and take you meds.

and just cause i'm high, and i drink with goats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItEA3Tno3bs