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[islakhamburher]

Hello,
First sorry my bad english, i am from turkey.

i'm sex with sex worker 62 days ago,
it is unprotected vaginal sex,
and make elisa(antibody hiv) test today
i guess third generation elisa test
test result anti hiv 0,29 negative --- pozitif>1.1 --- 0,9>negatif

but my doctor say you must make elisa test 3. months

I'm afraid this result convert negative to positive,

I have been many symptoms and this symptoms go away,

please help me:S

[Andy Velez]

S, you haven't mentioned if it was unprotected vaginal or anal intercourse you had with the sex worker. I mention this because those are the only two confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV.

Your doctor is correct about confirming your negative result by testing at 3 months. The average time to seroconversion is 22 days. All but very, very few will test positive within 4-6 weeks after a risk. So your negative result at almost 9 weeks means that you will very, very likely test negative again.

Just hang in a little longer and I expect you will come out of this ok. 

[islakhamburher]

andy thanks for reply,
My intercourse is only vaginal,
But i didn't full erection,

and is this values(0,29) important ?

i am waiting at 3 months

[Andy Velez]

Whether you had an erection or not is irrelevant.  What is important is if you had intercourse without using a condom.

HIV is harder to transmit from female to male than it is from male to female. And yours was apparently a single incident. Those facts are in your favor and I do expect you are going to continue to test negative.

You need to learn from this experience. You can have intercourse with anyone regardless of their HIV status. But you need to do it the safer way which means always without exception using a condom. No exceptions.

[islakhamburher]

Sorry for re question,

is hiv show any symptom two month later.

Because raised red doth rash over my arm and hand,

and this red dots go away in four days.

i am waiting  test at three month

[Andy Velez]

Sorry for re question,

is hiv show any symptom two month later.

Because raised red doth rash over my arm and hand,

and this red dots go away in four days.

i am waiting  test at three month

Those are not HIV specific symptoms. And it is unlikely that you would be experiencing ARS at 2 months after a low level risk.  The average time to seroconversion is 22 days.

I expect you to come out of this ok.

[islakhamburher]

okey thank Andy quick reply,

Maybe it is an alergy,

i dont hope seroconversion after two month my body,

beacuse i dont use any street drug, and i dont have any disease.

i only drinking(alchol) not everyday

[Andy Velez]

Additionally all but the smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will do so within 4-6 weeks after an exposure.

With a single exposure the odds are in your favor that you will test negative.

But low risk is not the same as no risk so you need to learn from this experience and in the future always use a condom for interecourse. No exceptions.

Good luck with your test.

[islakhamburher]

i found a article,

http://www.healtharticles101.com/hiv-seroconversion-timeline-7-thing-to-know/

is it true;

and my rash is shows two times

first at 3 weeks,
second 2 month
rash

after rash being being known as positive,

please help me because i see show my parents face and arm,

i will get mad

[Andy Velez]

The rash which sometimes appears with ARS is flat and doesn't itch. It only appears once for about 2 weeks and disappears. It does not disappear and then appear again.

You need to stop surfing the net. All you are doing is feeding your worst fears and all to no good purpose. The only way to get the answer you want about your status reliably and conclusively is with a test at 3 months.

So stop making yourself frantic. The odds are in your favor that you are going to test negative.

[islakhamburher]

Okey Andy, thanks thanks thanks,

i stop surf on the internet,

otherwise i lost my mind (:

you are right. I am not a doctor and

i don't know  anything  about hiv(ARS) without my research,

god bless you

[Andy Velez]

OK.  Just get tested at 3 months and collect what I expect will most likely be a negative result. Meantime get busy with other things in your life. 

[Ann]

i found a article,

http://www.healtharticles101.com/hiv-seroconversion-timeline-7-thing-to-know/

That is one of the most poorly written, ill-informed articles on hiv seroconversion I have EVER read, and I've read more articles on hiv seroconversion than you've probably had hot dinners.

As you have been repeatedly told, you were unlikely to become positive after one incident of unprotected, insertive vaginal intercourse.

You've tested negative at nearly nine weeks and that result is highly unlikely to change when you go for your confirmation test at three months.

If you feel unwell or are worried about your rash, go see a doctor about it. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv.

Ann

[islakhamburher]

Ann,

What is the convert rate negatif to positive after nearly 9 weeks,

and is this value (antibodies 0,29 ) important?

[Ann]

isla,

I don't know any alleged rates, but I do know that in ten years of posting in this forum, I have yet to see someone with a nine week negative go on to test positive.

And no, that value is not important. What IS important is that you tested NEGATIVE. That means you have not tested positive and you are unlikely to do so at three months.

Ann

[islakhamburher]

okey ann,

i trust your experiences about hiv,

Also why are you SHOUT me (:

thanks thanks Ann and Andy,



 

[Ann]

isla,

I'm not shouting, I'm only making certain words are a little more obvious. Believe me, you'd know for sure if I were really shouting at you.

I do not expect you to test positive when you go for your confirmatory three month test.

Ann

[islakhamburher]

i want this,
i praying the God everyday,
i make one mistake this subject(sex with unkown person ),
but i dont want shot by hiv  my first mistake,

life is amazing

Thanks, thanks for help

[Ann]

isla,

Hiv is not a punishment for making mistakes.

The only mistake you made was not using a condom. In future, you can have as much sex as you like with as many people as you like, as long as you are using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions.

Read through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use the correctly and with confidence.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!!!

Ann

[islakhamburher]

yes,

i know, this is my fault

i m read your signature's link ,

and i watched video in web site,

i will be carefull next time, if i came out of this,

 

[Ann]

isla,

I'm glad you read through the links and watched the video.

I do not expect your nine week negative result to change when you confirm at three months, so I really do think you're going to come out of this ok.

Remember to use condoms in future and you'll be just fine where hiv is concerned.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!!!

Ann

[islakhamburher]

i have a question again,

is symptoms and detectable antibodies relevant each other?

if show ars symptoms at 3 and 4 weeks, is test get positive after 4 weeks( show symptoms )

[Andy Velez]

The mistake you are making is to focus on symptoms. You need to know now and for the future that neither the presence nor the absence of symptoms will tell you anything accurately about your HIV.

You're trying to "figure it out" when the only way to know the answer reliably about your status after a risk is by getting tested. And for a conclusive result the test needs to be at 3 months.

You have to be patient and wait a little longer. We expect you to test negative ultimately.

[islakhamburher]

have any risk frottage at no erection circumcised penis to vagina? (: (sorry my english-i am feel like dummy

[Ann]

Isla,

I removed the above post from someone else's thread where you posted it and placed it here, in your own thread, which is the ONLY thread you should be posting in. Please read and abide by our rules found in the Welcome Thread. Thank you for your cooperation.




Frottage is not a risk no matter what details you can think of to add. Frottage is NOT a risk for hiv infection!

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!

Ann

[islakhamburher]

ANN SPEAK SWEETLY

if so i dont get any risk, that you mean,

because my risk is unprotected oral and frottage,
no fully  intercourse unprotected,
maybe no intercourse,

even 2 or 3 minutes oral  + frottage,

than i go away from girl because i dont want (:

even so i havent been forget this ilness, i am goint to test at 3 motnhs

[Ann]

Isla,

I'll speak sweetly if you start abiding by our rules and also stop posting incessantly.

Frottage is not a risk.

Oral is not a risk.

You do not need to test over frottage or oral.

The only risk you have reported is the unprotected vaginal intercourse for which you tested negative at nine weeks. We do not expect your nine week negative result to change.

Ann

[islakhamburher]

I'll speak sweetly if you start abiding by our rules and also stop posting incessantly.

i dont understand what you say, beacuse my english very bad (:

okey okey i stop posting and i dont write my question other post,

thanks for help
 ann and andy,
thanks thanks

[Andy Velez]

Just to clarify...

Ann has told you that the various other activities about which you are worried are not risks for HIV.

And further, with a negative test result at 9 weeks, you are almost certainly going to test negative again at 13 weeks in relation to the one real risk you had with unprotected intercourse.

Don't make this situation more complicated than it needs to be. Get tested at 13 weeks, collect what we expect will be a negative result and get on with your life...and always use condoms for intercourse. No exceptions. 

[islakhamburher]

I am at 92 days after exposure. but i am not going the test because i am afrain learn test result.

my symptoms started at 12 days after exposure red raised rash in my arms,
then 1(at 19 day after exposure) week later stomatit, gass, diarrhea and sore throat, lost weight,
then two week later chest pain (at 30 day after exposure).

i afraid
may be i am not going to test.
i am afraid learn 90days test result.

[Ann]

Isla,

Cut the drama. You are highly unlikely to test positive after testing negative at nine weeks. It's just not going to happen.

Don't bother posting again unless it's to report your conclusive negative result. Get a grip and go get tested.

Ann

[islakhamburher]

help me pleass. i went to go to test today. they said me come and get result after 3 hours. Then i went get test result they dont give me test result. They said come back again tomorrow. i ask why why ? they say me one problem occured test machine . But i dont believe this. i think they take my blood second time for confirmation second elisa.
they anything said me.
what am i doing.
time is stop.

is my test result positive ?
Can elisa test false positive a lot ?

i dont think anything. my mind is gone, come tears.
i am off.

[islakhamburher]

and what is this pain?am i in seroconversion curruntly? heel pain, hands finger pain.
what is this shit

[Andy Velez]

You would be most unlikely to be experiencing seroconversion at this late date.

Problems happen at labs all the time. You of course are mistakenly assuming it means you are positive.

I'm betting you will get a negative result when they get it to you.

Meantime I can tell you we are not going to hold your hand so to speak everytime you have another burst of anxiety. Cut of the self pity and the drama. We fully expect you to come out of this ok. Find other things to do while you are awaiting your result. And don't bother saying you are too scared to do that because that kind of response is not going to fly here. 

[islakhamburher]

andy i am going to test tomorrow morning.i post my test result whatever do. if i am come out this, i will send my classic guitar.But i dont hope this. Is your country first positive test result give immediatly?

[Andy Velez]

If you are taking the Rapid Test you will get a very quick result.

Good luck with your test tomorrow. I expect you to test negative.

We really don't have anything more to say to you here at this point.

[islakhamburher]

ANN AND ANDY THANK YOU SO MUCH, THANK YOUU, THANK YOU, i am went test today morrning again. Test result come back negative 99 days after exposure, but last question Anti hiv value = 0,3, value is increase,
this is important. i drunk alchol 3 days in one week until three years. But sometimes i didnt drink a month two month. is test required 6 month? if else i dont think about hiv.

is this conclusive result at 99day   

[baris1]

islakhamburger, i am turkish too, I want to congragulate you, I am planning to do test tody for oral  sex, where are you from,  istanbul? , what is the name of the laboratory

[islakhamburher]

thanks so much. i am in Avcilar.
Sorry

[Ann]

islakhamburger, i am turkish too, I want to congragulate you, I am planning to do test tody for oral  sex, where are you from,  istanbul? , what is the name of the laboratory

Baris,

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

Only those Moderators and members who are authorized to answer questions in the Am I Infected? forum are permitted do so. Unauthorized responses may be deleted without permission of the poster. Repeatedly posting replies of this nature may result in a Time Out or permanent ban, at the discretion of the Moderator Team.

Please consider yourself warned!

Ann

[Ann]

Isla,

You are conclusively hiv negative. You do not have hiv and you do not need to test again at six months.

Drinking alcohol will have absolutely NO effect on your hiv test. You could do the test when you were so drunk you couldn't even see straight, and it would have no effect on your test result.

Here's what you need to know in order to remain hiv negative:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED FURTHER TESTING AT THIS TIME, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann

[islakhamburher]

Ann thank you, i trust your information about hiv, what did you say(ann and andy), that happend. I will close this hiv's page and i protect myself and my partner everytime.
God bless you

[islakhamburher]

Hi, i came back again. Cos i develop ulcer in my mouth. It still stay 21 days. Bad smells, red and not painfull. I was read
 Category C AIDS-Indicator Conditions Herpes simplex: chronic ulcers (>1 month in duration)....
i will ask one question. If i am in Category C, do i need test at six month? and
if i am category C, am i dead fast? pls help me. I am in Turkey, no all drugs here.

[Ann]

isla,

You absolutely do not need to test again. You are conclusively hiv negative.

If your mouth bothers you, go see a doctor or dentist. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv. You do NOT have hiv!

Ann

[islakhamburher]

i am back again. I'm angry and i want to kill somebody. Then my mouth ulcer still unhealing, it smells like shit.i am sure i was get ticket for death exactly six month ago. i have seborrheic dermatitis on my hand, brow loss, a lot of hair loss(this is shit), and mouth ulcer. Then starting lightning to flash two week ago and he healing but i have still black floaters in my eyes. i am sure to be hiv positive. i want to say this; "i am not drug user, i didnt get chemotoropy against cancer and i was feel healing against other friend most of the time. But i know now this isnt true" Please answer me question cos i am alone on f****** island. If i active cmv retinitis(i dont sure this),  how much chance treatment  cmv retinitis. I want only get my revenge. I dont want go blind and die before get my revenge. i believe we dont have other life on other world. I know, i will be death soon. i will go test at monday

[Andy Velez]

isla,

You absolutely do not need to test again. You are conclusively hiv negative.

If your mouth bothers you, go see a doctor or dentist. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv. You do NOT have hiv!

Ann

THere is nothing for us to add to this as your situation has nothing to do with HIV. There is no need for further HIV testing. Discuss your symptoms with your doctor.
 I will also warn you that if you return here again about HIV and this same incident you are going to get a Time Out from the site. HIV is not your problem.

[islakhamburher]

thanks andy velez, i did test again, hiv combi. Result is fine for hiv.

[Andy Velez]

Good. Get on with your life.

[islakhamburher]

Hey i am here again. i am meet new girl at the park last night. and we are drunk.later we was starting french kissing, kissing and bitting. no any penetration.then she was bite my lips any risk bitting or french kissing. if any chance to get it hiv infectioni, i will take the pep.

[Andy Velez]

You've been coming here long enough to know not to start new threads and to write only in this same thread. And further that the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. As long as you always use condoms for those activities you will be well protected.

As long as there was no penetration in this latest incident then you were not at risk for HIV. You need to apply the information we have given to you as you continue on with your experiences.

It is also a bad idea to be mixing casual sex with excessive drinking. Avoid that in the future.

There is no need for further concern about HIV this time and obviously no need for PEP.

Get on with your life.