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Author Topic: How do you feel about stem cell research?  (Read 22932 times)

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Offline Since2005

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2011, 04:29:13 pm »
@Kill - Looking for my list.. hmm. what is called..yes I know. 'not responding' list..that's right... this is enough for now.. before the 'hulk rage' ..

I am quite sure AIDS came from a Masonic + Jewish plot to control and profit.
They have used Microsoft as a front from the mid 70's to hatch their master plan.
AIDS was manufactured by genius German Jewish Holocaust survivors working in a team with escaped Nazi scientists, with the Masons as the mastermind go-betweens.  Microsoft and the CIA disseminated AIDS first through vaccines and temporary homosexual office workers, as Windows can transmit the virus through mind control.  Gay office temps were brainwashed into having sex with Haitians AND gay flight attendants.  The reason the Bill Gates Foundation is again involved in Africa is because the Masons lost control of the US Government when Bono got the unholy alliance together to fund HIV treatment in Africa.  Now the Gates Foundation is actually reinfecting Africans so Big Pharma can continue to reap its profits.  Meanwhile a percentage of Big Pharma profit was historically sent to Israel and, when this began to taper off, the Israeli government began a secret program to work with Islamic terrorist cells to bring Wall Street hostage.  This is why Cantor Fitzgerald was destroyed, yet no Jews were in the buildings.  

- Funny.. I have to say..

To set the record straight.. I am NOT SAYING Phama companies are 'hiding the cure'.

Emphasize the word "incentives". Pure business deal.

Hey, Kelly, I will buy your T-shirt. I want the 'Muscle T-shirt, small size please’ and can you write on the back “ I WANT MORE RESEARCH FROM PHARMA TO CURE AIDS”
« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 04:43:47 pm by Since2005 »

Offline mecch

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2011, 04:40:22 pm »
Oh, and your projections on your own life span aren't correct.  Cheap emotional ploy to lay guilt on Big Pharma.  Get into long term treatment with good doctors and follow their advice and you don't have 20-30 years left because you have HIV.  PULEAZE.  Save it.




« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 04:45:56 pm by mecch »
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Offline mecch

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2011, 04:47:35 pm »

To set the record straight.. I am NOT SAYING Phama companies are 'hiding the cure'.


Good, glad to hear it.

Sometimes I do get your story mixed up with another recent join to this forum who had faith in alternative treatments. 
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Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2011, 04:53:33 pm »
Ummmm...

perhaps this thread has progressed beyond mere facts.

But if anyone is actually interested in the facts on drug spending, they are quite well documented on the web.  A lot of it is behind paywalls, because investors buy reports on this stuff.  But some of it is available for free if you know where to look.

For instance, the prescription drug benefit managers for health plans routinely produce reports for their clients on the trends in drug spending.  The search terms to use are "Drug Trend Report"  Here's a link to one http://www.express-scripts.com/research/studies/drugtrendreport/

HAART is very expensive for each of us, but it isn't a big number for the drug companies.  The biggest selling drug for the last several years has been Lipitor -- it pretty much dwarfs the other drugs.  So the most profitable disease for the drug companies appears to be high cholesterol -- diabetes is big too as is depression and high blood pressure.  HIV?  We are a fraction of the viral infection spending, bigger than a rounding error, but not by a whole lot.
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2011, 04:54:52 pm »
This thread was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes.
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Offline mecch

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2011, 05:18:10 pm »
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Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2011, 05:20:58 pm »
This thread was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes.

Fabulous?

Incredible?

but around here it more of a yawn than a marvel
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%
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2015 VL 130 Moved to Triumeq

Offline Joe K

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2011, 05:25:31 pm »
This thread is surely rising up in the Stupid-O-Meter ratings.

I'm still hoping for a new record.  We are almost there.

Offline anniebc

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2011, 05:45:39 pm »
I totally agree with Miss P and Killfoile.  I wish this thread could just end here

I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon Joel, there is no cure for stupidity.

Kelly you need to sit down and listen to those who know about HIV, and Since you need to do the same.

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Offline thunter34

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2011, 06:45:36 pm »
I left this thread a few hours ago in favor of a nap.


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Offline kellybryana

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #60 on: September 06, 2011, 06:53:08 pm »
I'm not the one who resurrected this thread. Don't look at me. My last two posts were ridiculous because I agree that this thread has just become plain RIDICULOUS.

Also, don't associate me with others who seem to have similar opinions as I do. Since, thank you for kind of agreeing with me, but I don't necessarily want to be associated with your arguments. My opinion is based on research I've done on different industries in the world and watching the trends of the corporations. I really do hope I'm wrong.

Maybe the health care system is different from every other system that exists. I don't know.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2011, 06:53:56 pm »
I left this thread a few hours ago in favor of a nap.


I am SO happy with my choice.

Barbara please -- I went and trimmed my nose hairs.
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Offline Rev. Moon

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #62 on: September 06, 2011, 06:57:34 pm »
This thread was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes.

I'm still hoping for a new record.  We are almost there.

I carnt believe what has taken place ever since this fuckery of a thread was revived.  Enough.


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Offline DanMo

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #63 on: September 06, 2011, 07:09:16 pm »
Is it just me or does it seem like there's a minimum of at least one thread a month that turns into a huge clusterf*ck?

Come on guys! Let's try to be respectful (even if someone posts something you disagree with immensely).
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #64 on: September 06, 2011, 07:15:06 pm »
Is it just me or does it seem like there's a minimum of at least one thread a month that turns into a huge clusterf*ck?

Come on guys! Let's try to be respectful (even if someone posts something you disagree with immensely).

You think, Danny?
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Offline Joe K

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2011, 07:20:26 pm »
Is it just me or does it seem like there's a minimum of at least one thread a month that turns into a huge clusterf*ck?

Come on guys! Let's try to be respectful (even if someone posts something you disagree with immensely).

Nobody was disrespectful, we just can't stand when members post crap about some clinic in Thailand that will cure HIV with a money-back guarantee.  Even through the thread rose from the dead, the subject is total bullshit and we don't want any members to confuse this clinic with actually offering anything of value.  It got testy because a few members were trying to pass this crap off as real medicine.

Offline DanMo

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2011, 07:22:24 pm »
You think, Danny?

I know what you mean Miss P.  ;)

I guess I'm what's called an "idealistic youth" LOL  ;D
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27 Apr 11 - 390 (20%) / VL: 285,095
06 Jun 11 - 298 (19%) / VL:  78,380
01 Aug 11 - > STARTED ATRIPLA <
30 Aug 11 - 699 (31%) / VL: 1,938
03 Nov 11 -                / VL: 645
27 Dec 11 - 559 (35%) / VL: 1,189
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Offline mecch

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #67 on: September 06, 2011, 08:31:31 pm »
jyllenhall revived this Zombie thread (only a few months old) in his/her first post to the Forums, cause Kelly is "like a critical critical thinker" for this crap post about crap medicine.

Since the reboot, Kelly has been pushed a bit, and two worrisome thoughts are RE-revealed.  She'd still rather believe in the Thai quack, and she has tin-foil conspiracy theories about big pharma and the cure.

Since, clumsy and naive, drowsed off in a doggy bed of conspiracy. Now, realising it, he brushes off the fleas (thank heavens).  Kelly flees, unable or unwilling to defend her two thoughts, since they are only worrisome to us and not her.

Should we worry, as well, about jyllenhall, here playing the part of the gullible public who will be misinformed?    Tune in next week, same crap time, same old crap channel, when we revive a thread about stripper heel health risks and the hydrogen peroxide colloidal silver enema cure.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 08:47:25 pm by mecch »
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Offline anniebc

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2011, 08:36:34 pm »


I guess I'm what's called an "idealistic youth" LOL  ;D

Oh to be young again Dan... ;D

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Re: How do you feel about stem cell research?
« Reply #69 on: September 06, 2011, 09:30:40 pm »

Time to lock this thread.

I totally agree.

Since, in another thread I asked people to give you some slack. Now I'm asking YOU to STFU as well on things you know little about. There is no cure for hiv and there is no cure that is being held back through some sort of conspiracy. Utter nonsense.

You and Kelly both have hiv, an incurable virus. Deal with it. The rest of us have and you can too.
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