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Main Forums => Living With HIV => Topic started by: Mrmojorisin on December 11, 2012, 06:27:41 pm
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Well, in October I got my first flu shot in over 20 years...and here I am now in bed with the flu..fat lot of good the shot did..this sucks. I haven't had the flu in 8 or 9 years.
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sorry the flu shot missed it's mark this time. :(
hope you are feeling better soon!
get your rest. :)
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Maybe it's not the flu and just a bad cold.
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You can still get the flu even if you've had the flu shot. The shot only covers you for what they expect the several dominant strains of the season to be, not every strain.
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Maybe it's not the flu and just a bad cold.
I went to the doctor and confirmed it was the flu.
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Same thing happened to me. Got a flu shot for the first time in years, and got the flu.
The flu shot actually contains strains of the flu, so all we're really doing is making sure the flu gets into our bodies 100%!
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The flu shot actually contains strains of the flu, so all we're really doing is making sure the flu gets into our bodies 100%!
Are you implying that the shot gave you the flu?
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I'm getting sick again, and I cannot believe it ??? I have a sore throat and headache and all achey feeling. sigh. Im going to take some Emergen-C and then start hitting the Nyquil.
I hate this shit.
-Will
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I'm getting sick again, and I cannot believe it ??? I have a sore throat and headache and all achey feeling. sigh. Im going to take some Emergen-C and then start hitting the Nyquil.
I hate this shit.
-Will
I have been a bit under the weather for past few months- worse the past two weeks. ENT put a scope down my throat and says that my voice box looks tore up - She is going to check it again in a month to make sure there is nothing else going on....
ID doc took three cultures last week -
The strep came back negative -
The other two got kicked back by the lab - so she emailed me tonight that I am supposed to come in again this week and get the two cultures done again, but she is going to give me some type of antibiotic intramuscular injection in my arm as she thinks it may be something bacterial....
We shall see.... in the meantime, I have been getting lots of orange juice, advil, thera-flu severe cold and flu....
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Same thing happened to me. Got a flu shot for the first time in years, and got the flu.
The flu shot actually contains strains of the flu, so all we're really doing is making sure the flu gets into our bodies 100%!
This is ridiculous! The flu shot contains inactivated (e.g. KILLED) virus -- it simply can NOT, under any circumstances, cause anyone to get the flu.
The flu mist, contains attenuated (weakened) virus -- there is little chance of it causing disease in healthy adults -- HIV Positive individuals should NOT get the mist.
So, technically, a flu shot DOES get the flu virus into your body -- of course, they are DEAD. Know facts before making outlandish insinuations
Drives me batty that I hear this crap every year.
Mike
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I always thought even if you get the vaccine, and even if you come into contact with one of the strains it protects against, you could still possibly get sick--it isn't 100%? I mean, it works very well, but is not a sure guarantee? And, it takes a few weeks to develop a response.
I think it is better than the pneumonia vaccine, no? I was told one may still get pneumonia, but the vaccine should make it less severe. Older folks often get a stronger flu vaccine, right? A double dose or something. I've wondered why doesn't everyone do that, especially those with compromised immune systems. We don't check titers for flu, like we do with the heps. I hope I am not just pulling that out of my ass, but thought I read the elderly often receive a stronger dose.
Any corrections would be appreciated.
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The vaccine consist indeed of "inactivated" current variety flu virus. Your body will develop an immune response, hence the sometimes flu like symptoms but NOT a real flu. When you later get in contact with the real virus, you still might get the real flu but with milder symptoms.
I was told, way back, that people with a severely compromised immune system may fail to develop an adequate immune response from the vaccine, thus still get the real flu (full force).
Hope you feel better soon.
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I've heard that if you have cold or flu symptoms that you should not get the vaccine until you are all cleared up, or it may make you more sick.
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Know facts before making outlandish insinuations
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Dayuummm it -
Woke up this morning shivering/chills and it is 78 degrees outside (never a good thing)....
Congested...
Slight headache...
Muscles hurt....
And cough coming from my chest burns when I cough (owwww!) >:(
Phild is not happy - slight fever - just took Advil....
Think I may be going to work just long enough to pick up the projects I need to work on and asking if I can turn around and come back home to work..... Unless everyone else in the office wants to have what is looking more and more like..... THE FLU!!!!!!
I may be the first case of virtual transmission. Dayummm it people - cover your keyboard when you cough ;)
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I may be the first case of virtual transmission. Dayummm it people - cover your keyboard when you cough ;)
Should I be wearing a mask to read this . Hope you recover quickly .
I have been dodging sick people all month trying to avoid the flu plague . Every New Years I go to the beach with some friends and I missed last year because I was sick , so when my friend Tim was here last weekend and became ill I asked if I could get him anything , he said no and I told him good , now go home .
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Each year, the CDC predicts which strain is mostly likely to be prevalent. It is basically a guesstimate as it needs to be produced many months in advance. Sometimes they get it wrong and people come in contact with a different strain than they were inoculated against.
I must be freakish as I've never had the flu and don't even recall having a cold in recent years. I go straight to the severe infections. ;D
Proper hygiene is still one of the best preventative measures in addition to the shot at protecting against the flu.
Hope all you sickos get well soon.
Wolfie
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Each year, the CDC predicts which strain is mostly likely to be prevalent. It is basically a guesstimate as it needs to be produced many months in advance. Sometimes they get it wrong and people come in contact with a different strain than they were inoculated against.
I'm surprised that doctors aren't explaining this to people.
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Oh NOES! I just noticed that there is Echinacea in my Ricola Honey Lemon Cough Drops!
Am I going to die?
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Oh NOES! I just noticed that there is Echinacea in my Ricola Honey Lemon Cough Drops!
Am I going to die?
Can I have all your stuff , I love doing yard sales .
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Okay - Mucinex Fast Max (2 doses down so far)....and fever is still a climbin'
101 about 2 hours ago
101.5 about an hour ago
and 102 just now....
On the bright side, I think my skin is hot enough to have a toasted cheese samich off of my belly.
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Can I have all your stuff , I love doing yard sales .
You do realize I am a minimalist, right? It would only take about 9 boxes to pack up all my belongings. (up from 6, I went on a buying spree).
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Okay - Mucinex Fast Max (2 doses down so far)....and fever is still a climbin'
101 about 2 hours ago
101.5 about an hour ago
and 102 just now....
Are these rectal readings?
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You do realize I am a minimalist, right?
So we have um, err heard.... ;)
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So we have um, err heard.... ;)
oh, here come the balls jokes ::)
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I only know of one ideal thing to cure the flue (http://www.livescience.com/24599-meth-fights-flu-virus.html).
... so stop complaining and get busy
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Are these rectal readings?
Nope mouth -
I can't do rectal - I always lose the thermometer when I do that... must have about 10 or 12 of them up there from past illnesses :o
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Lie down on a tile floor to draw it out of you!
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Lie down on a tile floor to draw it out of you!
the flu or the thermometer?
Sounds like you have had similar occurrences? lol
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I only know of one ideal thing to cure the flue (http://www.livescience.com/24599-meth-fights-flu-virus.html).
... so stop complaining and get busy
Sounds like a plan - except the only people who I could probably contact to get some from have all been banned from the forums ---- DAYUMMMMM
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Da Feva!!
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Da Feva!!
Ahhhhh.... okay.... I usually do that when I am hugging the toilet with a hangover.
Doc has me coming to see her Friday -
Hey, does anyone know what brown phlegm means?
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Hey, does anyone know what brown phlegm means?
Death is imminent.
Can I have your stuff? (before JG jumps in)
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means you been smokin!
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I wonder if Wumpy still eats fast food when he's really ill. My guess is "yes".
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Death is imminent.
Can I have your stuff? (before JG jumps in)
I don't see a problem with that - the only thing I am missing, I must let you know, is a long purple dildo.....
I think I may have lost it at the airport on one of my recent business trips.
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means you been smokin!
Oops - could be....
Maybe if I add some green food coloring to it, my doc won't figure out that it is actually from smoking... (just thinking out loud here).
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I wonder if Wumpy still eats fast food when he's really ill. My guess is "yes".
For your info, Today I have had only Oatmeal and 2 bowls of Golden Grahams, oh and a V8.
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i have been stuggling forever today trying to figure out how to post a pic while all of you are getting the flu!
i am SO slow in more ways than i can count. ::)
Please, ALL of you get well soon!!!
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Well, fever dropped for about 1 hour to 101.... but now it has went back up....102.2. Chills - I feel so horrible.
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:(
get your rest.
is it feed a fever or the other way around?
anyway,
hope you get over this quick phil. :)
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Nurse! Nurse!
Does anyone know what the max amount of Acetaminiphin is in a day, everything Im taking has some in it, the Nyquil, Advil, Goody's.
I guess all this should go ahead and "do in" my mediocre kidneys.
Actually I guess the Advil ahs only Ibuprofen, so can I take Ibuprofen, Aceta and Aspirain all together.
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Will , That seems like allot of over the counter meds . I call your pharmacy and ask them . Its a personal decision but Ive never been a fan of over the counter meds , but then again I'm on pain meds so I don't even have to use oven mitts .
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First I have been online today -
Slept until 5:30 pm ---- woke up three times during the night and got sick (as the medicines and orange juice tore up my stomach)
Fever topped off at 102.8 last night.
It finally broke this afternoon and has been staying around 101 for the last few hours.
See my doctor tomorrow.... just to make sure that nothing has went into my lungs, as I have a pretty nasty cough coming straight from the depths of my chest ---- sounds really, really "yucky."
I'm hoping that I through the worst of this....
Boss told me to take tomorrow off and use the weekend to rest.
I would not wish this on my worst enemy (okay - that is a lie) - but I wouldn't wish it on most people who are not my enemies.
The FLU sucks!
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What a great night to be bed ridden, there is a marathon of Les Miserables Movies on TCM, a sampling of 3 different movies...the one form 1932 is on now :D
Will , That seems like allot of over the counter meds . I call your pharmacy and ask them . Its a personal decision but Ive never been a fan of over the counter meds , but then again I'm on pain meds so I don't even have to use oven mitts .
Yes, I should call my doc if it doesnt get any better tomorrow. it's jsut that my head feels like it is going to explode, and the body aches. blah. hence all the otc pain relief. However I suppose I could jsut pop a Methadone and be done with the apsirin for awhile :P
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Phil ... that sounds nasty , hope you feel better and get that cough checked out . The last time I had the flu ... no , every time I get sick its when I have no food or anything I need in the house . Its the pits when you have to shop sick .
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OMG -- you two (Wumpy and Phil) seem to be in some sort of contest here...... Although my money is on Willy being a tad dramatic ;-P -- but if Phil is missing work he MUST BE SERIOUSLY SICK!!!
Rest easy you two -- call your docs and please, keep all your nasty viruses to yourselves!! I want none of them up this way -- of course, I got my flu shot months ago.
Hugs,
Mike
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OMG -- you two (Wumpy and Phil) seem to be in some sort of contest here...... Although my money is on Willy being a tad dramatic ;-P -- but if Phil is missing work he MUST BE SERIOUSLY SICK!!!
Rest easy you two -- call your docs and please, keep all your nasty viruses to yourselves!! I want none of them up this way -- of course, I got my flu shot months ago.
Hugs,
Mike
Stop being a suck up Mike , I already got dibs on their stuff .
r
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Stop being a suck up Mike , I already got dibs on their stuff .
r
but I suck up so good........... so I'm told
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Nurse! Nurse!
Does anyone know what the max amount of Acetaminiphin is in a day, everything Im taking has some in it, the Nyquil, Advil, Goody's.
I guess all this should go ahead and "do in" my mediocre kidneys.
Actually I guess the Advil ahs only Ibuprofen, so can I take Ibuprofen, Aceta and Aspirain all together.
I think your question was rhetorical, but it was 4,000 mgs per day. I think it's been lowered, or recommended. 2,000 per day, if you drink. My gastro doc said they prefer patients to take Tylenol over NSAIDS, even those with liver issues.
Modified for spelling
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Back from doctor...
Shot in my ass (ouch!)
5 day course of Zithromycin
Doc said she thinks we caught it in time as the nasty little flu bug and its associated symptoms were settling comfortably into my lungs and on the verge of pneumonia.
So, have to watch for any difficulty breathing, spikes in temperature... and if these occur, head to ER....
Hopefully, the antibiotics will handle it.....
Just getting a lot of rest and liquids.
At least the fever has come down.
Will: Hope you are feeling better. Make sure you get to doc if it doesn't start clearing up - My doc says this year's flu is hitting earlier and harder and she is seeing more and more people developing pneumonia after having it.
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Will and Phil,
I hope you get through this ugly flu bug without crappy complications.
Get your rest!!!
(that will be another $20. please.)
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Glad you are on the road to wellness Phil. Im felling better, but now I have an earache, it feels like it is clogged and the pain goes down the side of my neck. But Ill take that over the soar throat and other BS.
Onward through the fog.
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Glad you are on the road to wellness Phil. Im felling better, but now I have an earache, it feels like it is clogged and the pain goes down the side of my neck. But Ill take that over the soar throat and other BS.
Onward through the fog.
You verify everything my mother ever said about men being incapable of being sick with an ounce of dignity.
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You verify everything my mother ever said about men being incapable of being sick with an ounce of dignity.
I'm a horrible patient and I really need someone here to take care of me and nurse me through this. Although I think this is why I cant keep a boyfriend.
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I have given up on saying that I am 'starting to feel better' because everytime I say that, a few hours later I feel like shit again...
Woke up several times last night with fever - then would wake up drenched with sweat from fever breaking...
Still have the nasty cough --- trying my best to stay hydrated - but that is difficult - when nothing tastes good... I don't even have an appetite.
Still at the risk of regretting saying it in a few hours... I do think that I am starting to feel better.
This year's flu is a mean mofo...
I need to be over it, as I am leaving next Friday for journey to Ocala - then leaving Ocala on Saturday of next week to drive to Pennsylvania for the holidays.
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I'm a horrible patient and I really need someone here to take care of me and nurse me through this. Although I think this is why I cant keep a boyfriend.
That and a tiny peenie.
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Still have the nasty cough ---
Are you still taking your Mucinex? I find Mucinex DM the best for coughs, it's a must have.
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Although I think this is why I cant keep a boyfriend.
No, the reason you don't have a boyfriend is manifold. But primarily it's because no 19 year old is interested in your saggy tits.
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Are you still taking your Mucinex? I find Mucinex DM the best for coughs, it's a must have.
Yep - Mucinex, Advil, juice, chicken noodle soup (when I can stomach it).... Fever goes away for a few hours then comes right back - but at least it isn't shooting up like it was the other day.
Boss has already given permission for me to phone in for an important meeting on Monday if I am not up to going into the office - but I am going to try to make it in, as I feel completely out of sorts having missed three days already. Today definitely would have been a "no go" in terms of work. I have to try to get some school work done this evening or at least tomorrow.
I did shave today ;D I was beginning to look like Grizzley Adams, as I had not shaven since Tuesday. Time for my next dose of Mucinex and some juice.
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Haven't you people had the flu before?
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Haven't you people had the flu before?
Nope - up until this point, I had been highly favored by God.
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No, the reason you don't have a boyfriend is manifold. But primarily it's because no 19 year old is interested in your saggy tits.
Now Now be kind , there is some one out there for every one . Short men into nipple play love men with saggy tits .
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It appears that Hillary caught my flu bug during our last meeting together:
Hillary Clinton Faints - Suffers Concussion
http://news.yahoo.com/secretary-state-faints-sustains-concussion-172605823--politics.html
Sorry Hillary, please forgive me for giving you my flu cooties.
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That and a tiny peenie.
The baby arm is doing fine, thank you. Testo is not known to affect penis size.
No, the reason you don't have a boyfriend is your saggy tits.
LMAO.
...you people
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Sorry to hear you guys had it so bad...I left work monday and went to the doc..he gave me Tamiflu and loratadine..
I stayed home on tuesday, I was feeling like shit..stayed in bed and drank gatorade, water and ate crackers...I should have stayed home on wendesday, but went anyway..I am doing a lot better, but still have a minor cough and a little lightheaded..
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I woke up with the flu this morning too. Head hurting, slight tummy ache, and excessive need for coffee. After a couple of mugs, I had an aha moment. I had the temporary zin flu.
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Nurse! Nurse!
Does anyone know what the max amount of Acetaminiphin is in a day, everything Im taking has some in it, the Nyquil, Advil, Goody's.
I guess all this should go ahead and "do in" my mediocre kidneys.
Actually I guess the Advil ahs only Ibuprofen, so can I take Ibuprofen, Aceta and Aspirain all together.
It's 4grams..so 2 (500mg tabs) x 4 doses but you can rotate tylenol and advil/motrin every 4-6 hrs
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Interesting link here
http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-03-01-08#S4.4X
especially the chapter named:
Effect of Vaccines on HIV Disease Progression
They make a point about flu vaccine transiently increasing HIV RNA (aka VL)
Hope this helps
Eric
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They make a point about flu vaccine transiently increasing HIV RNA (aka VL)
Eric
No, they do not! They say some studies show this, some do not. They DO say there is is increased hospitalization for HIVpoz who get the actual flu though.
Stop trying to scare folks off with half truths
M