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Main Forums => Someone I Care About Has HIV => Topic started by: motherinneed on October 09, 2009, 08:02:45 am
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Last time I posted my son had labs in July
Cd3/cd4 35
cd3/cd4 helper ABS 439 LOW
cd3/cd4 suppress 29
cd3/cd4 suppress Abs 365
Cd4/cd8 ration 1.20
absolute lympocyte 1269
HIV-1 copies 133
logocopies/ml 2.12
We were told it is just a "blib" and these happen so do not worry. My son got worried and the MD told him he could take labs in sept if he needed to.
September labs
cd3/cd4 helper 34
cd3/cd4 helper ABS 475LOW
cd3/cd8 suppres 31
cd3/cd8 suppres abs 427
cd4/cd8 ratio 1.11
absolute lymphocyte 1388
HIV- 1 RNA
less than 48
logocopies less than 1.68 the note said with this test they cannot determine the level of virus in the sample. Could this all be lab errors?
So the CD3/CD4 helper ABS is still low..438 to 475 but it went up.. is this still a blip, is he drug resistant? did he take the labs too soon after the first blip?
The HIV-1 RNA copies went down..is this just a lab error or is this good? With the genotype HIV-1 for RT and PR gene mutations the lab note send there was insufficent virus or and INHIBITORY substance in the sample What does that mean?
I need to give these results to my son today and I would like to offer him information as mothers tend to overreact and stressout and I do not want to do that. I want to be rational. So still okay or need to worry about drug resistance?
Thank you.
Motherinneed
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Mother,
What all that means, in a nutshell, is that his virus is undetectable and that's a good thing. It's the goal of treatment. His CD4 count isn't all that low either and it's going in the right direction.
Relax, he's doing well.
Ann
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thank you very much Ann. Mothers can get stressed quickly! Bless you.
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less then 48 means undetectable. that is what the labs always say. its ok. his numbers look good. Give him lots of love and remember it takes time for them to get over the shock of hiv. its great that your so supportive.
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Those number are pretty good. They do vary, even between which lab does the test or the time of day. MY CD4 has varied as much as 30%. I hope one day to get as good a numbers as your son has. What you have to watch for is 1. Viral load V.L. going up. and 2. CD4 going down as a long term trend over several 3 month periods. With a June CD439 and September at 475, it means if you would chart it, that his CD4 trend line is going up which means his immunity is getting BETTER. All the test is capable of detecting is a viral load down to 48 copies. That is why they call undetectable <48. With the kind of numbers he has, he should do well. :)