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Title: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 21, 2007, 12:24:15 am
just wondering....

can anal sex cause some sort of injury to someone's intestine?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Matty the Damned on February 21, 2007, 12:33:12 am
Versatile with a strong tendency to bottom.

can anal sex cause some sort of injury to someone's intestine?

Why do you ask dear? Some nasty top bust your gut?

MtD
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 12:36:28 am
Put me down as a total top.

Brent
(Who shall refrain from discussing the fistula episode)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 12:50:09 am
Versatile is just another way of saying "I'm a bottom with confidence."   ;)

That said, I prefer to bottom... but I'm a firm believer that variety is the spice of life... so I'll get toppy more often than one would think.

One dude called me a "power bottom."  I was really proud of that moniker. 
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 21, 2007, 12:52:05 am
Libertarian

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Matty the Damned on February 21, 2007, 12:59:34 am
Versatile is just another way of saying "I'm a bottom with confidence."

It takes a particularly superior kind of male to top Matty the Damned. Even though he prefers to bottom, he has his dignity. There's no way he'd let some drug fucked pill twink hop into the drivers seat.

MtD
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 01:02:50 am
Versatile is just another way of saying "I'm a bottom with confidence."

It takes a particularly superior kind of male to top Matty the Damned. Even though he prefers to bottom, he has his dignity. There's no way he'd let some drug fucked pill twink hop into the drivers seat.

MtD

Exactly!  This is what I'm talking about.

And Matty... I'm so sorry... so very, very sorry.

You know... about the shoehorning it in thing. 

It was the pills!  The pills!   ;D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Matty the Damned on February 21, 2007, 01:04:26 am
And Matty... I'm so sorry... so very, very sorry.

You know... about the shoehorning it in thing. 


It's an agony that never ends, babe. :-*

MtD

/edited for an error in the use of the indefinite article/
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 01:11:13 am
And Matty... I'm so sorry... so very, very sorry.

You know... about the shoehorning it in thing. 


It's an agony that never ends, babe.

Don't I know it... don't I know it.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 01:14:47 am
Versatile is just another way of saying "I'm a bottom with confidence."

It takes a particularly superior kind of male to top Matty the Damned. Even though he prefers to bottom, he has his dignity. There's no way he'd let some drug fucked pill twink hop into the drivers seat.

MtD

That's when you call in the pros with the heavy artillery...ahem.

Brent
(Who knows what he's doing)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Robert on February 21, 2007, 02:02:42 am
every which way but loose.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 02:06:02 am
I know this poll has all the scientific accuracy of an exit poll conducted by a really wasted Cokie Roberts... in June 2007...

... but it would appear... thus far... that all the homos on this website are complete whores.   ;)

Which makes me feel like I'm in good company.   ;D

Thank you!  You've brought a tear to my eye.

One of us!  One of us!  One of us!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 02:18:52 am
every which way but loose.

Actually, any which way to achieve loose-ness.

Brent
(Who hates to barge in)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: DanielMark on February 21, 2007, 03:58:36 am
Capricorn.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: indyguy on February 21, 2007, 04:03:56 am
Ask and you shall receive. ;D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ryeguy on February 21, 2007, 04:13:46 am
Um yes, I would like my burger with fries..... go ahead super size it with bacon....lol
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ryeguy on February 21, 2007, 04:19:36 am
'Power bottom'..... That's so funny! Bye the way, plan on coming to Berlin any time soon. Really any plans to visit Berlin?  ;) :D ;D :P :-*  LOL
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 04:26:35 am
Powerbottom is my favorite food.

Brent
(Who holds the pickle and the lettuce)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: mjmel on February 21, 2007, 04:59:42 am
Note: this poll has the potential to shatter my fantasies. I need my fantasies.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: indyguy on February 21, 2007, 05:04:14 am
I dont think they would allow me in Germany. Besides I work for the state. HMM go to Germany or pay my bills? HMMM   Better pay the bills ;D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ryeguy on February 21, 2007, 05:18:37 am
The bills are more important:-)

Anyways the offer was meant for our nutty 'powerbottom'  LOL
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 05:22:08 am
I've been led to believe that Berlin is chock full of powerbottoms...please let me live with the lie if it's untrue.

Brent
(Who has all he can handle here in Ft lauderdale)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: indyguy on February 21, 2007, 05:23:21 am
Ok..I dont think I would want to travel outside the U.S. right now anyhow. Not very many countrys like us.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 05:30:46 am
I've been led to believe that Berlin is chock full of powerbottoms...please let me live with the lie if it's untrue.

I used to live in Frankfurt am Main... that might have had something to do with it. 
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ryeguy on February 21, 2007, 05:35:41 am
That is so funny about Frankfurt Am Main, I was stationed there for a short time when I was in the Army. There was a huge Airforce Base there, The Army's 21st replacement battalion also used to be there. This would be 1994. I guess you were still a baby then. Well I was kind of too. The Blue Angel, Connection oh those were my young slutty soldiering days:-))
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ryeguy on February 21, 2007, 05:41:02 am
About Berlin it is hardcore in every way.  Talk aboout power everything yes sir from power tools to powertucken, alles hier. I prefer me men more wholesome looking in bed then they can become power whatever. :-X
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 05:46:01 am
About Berlin it is hardcore in every way.  Talk aboout power everything yes sir from power tools to powertucken, alles hier. I prefer me men more wholesome looking in bed then they can become power whatever. :-X

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, the quietly slutty ones...interesting choice!

Brent
(Who is generally rather obvious and power(whatever))
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ryeguy on February 21, 2007, 05:46:45 am
This is tasteless,macabre, and revolting.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ryeguy on February 21, 2007, 05:48:09 am
oops I just responded to the wrong thread... sorry.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: budndallastx on February 21, 2007, 06:42:06 am
BIG AND THICK for me ..

... are we still talking about your favorite pizza?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aztecan on February 21, 2007, 09:39:28 am
The answer to the original question of bottom or top is "YES."

Before that happens, though, I must suck out all the life and fluid from all who opened the tomb and released me to wander the earth again. Once regenerated, I will have to get rid of all those bandages and update my wardrobe.

But, once that's accomplished, look out boys! NOBODY will be safe.

HUGS (in anticipation),

Mark
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Ihavehope on February 21, 2007, 09:52:48 am
What type of poll is this? lol, seriously.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aztecan on February 21, 2007, 09:56:19 am
Hope, you can't be that young! ;)

HUGS,

Mark
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Moffie65 on February 21, 2007, 10:17:31 am
ONLY THE BEST BOTTOMS MAKE IT TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Life on February 21, 2007, 10:40:45 am
I started at the bottom and worked my way up...  Only to find the bottom was not a bad place to be.  ;)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Dachshund on February 21, 2007, 11:01:31 am
Actually, any which way to achieve loose-ness.

Brent
(Who hates to barge in)


Quit trolling you whore. ;D Dear God man...you have only been back twelve hours.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Dachshund on February 21, 2007, 11:07:44 am
I used to live in Frankfurt am Main... that might have had something to do with it. 



Oh the hell with it.....Benj, Buck....Buck, Benj.

Aunty Doxie
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: David_CA on February 21, 2007, 11:11:26 am
The answer to the original question of bottom or top is "YES."

That's my answer too.  The other answers would be "What's today?" or "who's cleaner?"  The last one is often the most important question for us!

David
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ACinKC on February 21, 2007, 11:23:54 am
<- Best power bottom west of the Mississippi in my heyday!  I can still call up the POWER when its needed but I only use my powers for good these days.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Sky on February 21, 2007, 11:25:48 am
I started at the bottom and worked my way up...  Only to find the bottom was not a bad place to be.  ;)

lol I second that motion!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 21, 2007, 01:04:05 pm
this poll, by any mean, is not accurate nor scientific. The reason why i raised this poll was to see the way hiv might be transmitted. It seems there are more bottoms than tops, and if that is the case, I question, shouldn't there be complete equal number of bottoms and tops to make hiv trasmission more likely? Why more bottoms? if more bottoms, where are they getting hiv from? There had to be healthy number of tops to transmit hiv to the bottoms, no?

Sure, there is a large percentage of versatile, and being horn dogs, i guess its the versatile behavior that might be the major component of spread of hiv.

i wasn't trying to blame any particular group, just trying to see what would happen.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: allopathicholistic on February 21, 2007, 01:05:34 pm
the "major component" of the spread of HIV through sex is the failure to use condoms, not any of that stuff you said

here:

https://www.poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/hiv-transmission-risks

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 01:09:33 pm
I am never telling you people anything again.

You've taken a really special moment I had with this guy... What's His Face... where he called me a power bottom and have totally shat all over it.

I'm crying... nay, bawling at the sheer level of mean that's being thrown in my direction...

Squish squish, darling.  Squish squish...   ;)

OK.  I'm over it.

You're all just jealous.  Or not.  I'm now calling myself Nuclear Power Bottom.

Oh yes.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: texasguy on February 21, 2007, 01:13:18 pm
At 46 years old, I've worked my way from bottom to top and back to bottom then back again.  Travel exhausts me.  Color me ambivalent.  Errrr...and for the record, any color, anytime, any day, with today being the preference.....   :)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: skeebo1969 on February 21, 2007, 01:14:25 pm
Versatile with a strong tendency to bottom.

can anal sex cause some sort of injury to someone's intestine?

Why do you ask dear? Some nasty top bust your gut?

MtD

 LMAO....

 
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 01:15:09 pm
this poll, by any mean, is not accurate nor scientific. The reason why i raised this poll was to see the way hiv might be transmitted. It seems there are more bottoms than tops, and if that is the case, I question, shouldn't there be complete equal number of bottoms and tops to make hiv trasmission more likely? Why more bottoms? if more bottoms, where are they getting hiv from? There had to be healthy number of tops to transmit hiv to the bottoms, no?

Sure, there is a large percentage of versatile, and being horn dogs, i guess its the versatile behavior that might be the major component of spread of hiv.

i wasn't trying to blame any particular group, just trying to see what would happen.

Given the inherent scientific inaccuracy of the poll as well as the way HIV is spread... I think all you're gonna learn is that the homos on this site who responded are deviated preverts who'll take it anyway they can get it.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 21, 2007, 01:23:02 pm
Its scientifically WAY more likely to get HIV from passive anal sex.

Obviously, its quite possible to get it either way, but anal bottoming is arguably the highest risk activity.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ACinKC on February 21, 2007, 03:19:14 pm
Its scientifically WAY more likely to get HIV from passive anal sex.

Obviously, its quite possible to get it either way, but anal bottoming is arguably the highest risk activity.

I love being in the upper echelon.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Queen Tokelove on February 21, 2007, 03:28:14 pm
I was going to vote on the poll but I didn't want to tip the scales... ;D....I know this was really meant for you gay guys out there but the straights can play along too.....*feeling left out*... :-[....So Skeebo, since you are the only other st8 person I see on this thread so far, which are you? Do tell. Of course, the Queen will always be a powerful top....has even gotten a little carried away and been accused of trying to rip it off... ;D....
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Dachshund on February 21, 2007, 03:41:15 pm
Its scientifically WAY more likely to get HIV from passive anal sex.

Obviously, its quite possible to get it either way, but anal bottoming is arguably the highest risk activity.


And the most fun.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: skeebo1969 on February 21, 2007, 04:00:48 pm
I was going to vote on the poll but I didn't want to tip the scales... ;D....I know this was really meant for you gay guys out there but the straights can play along too.....*feeling left out*... :-[....So Skeebo, since you are the only other st8 person I see on this thread so far, which are you? Do tell. Of course, the Queen will always be a powerful top....has even gotten a little carried away and been accused of trying to rip it off... ;D....

  Well since you ask I must tell ;).   I'm a top by default.  In my experience the women from Miami have very little lasting power when it comes to getting on top.  When I say getting on top, I don't mean none of that straddling bullsh*t either...  I want the Olympic squat routine or nothing... yes women hate when you time this event I have learned.  Don't get me started on the oral thing... "Oh baby my jaw hurts!" Give me a fricking break..(please)!  Anything that can talk that much should be able to suck a watermelon through a garden hose, of course this is just an observation.  Which leads me to my favorite saying, " I've got a tongue that's long and a back that's mighty strong "  The sisters think so too...  I've yet to have a Caucasian and by the looks of things it won't ever happen ;)..  I've struck some gold with my current love.... :) :) :) :)  
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 21, 2007, 04:30:48 pm
 Well since you ask I must tell ;).   I'm a top by default.  In my experience the women from Miami have very little lasting power when it comes to getting on top.  When I say getting on top, I don't mean none of that straddling bullsh*t either...  I want the Olympic squat routine or nothing... yes women hate when you time this event I have learned.  Don't get me started on the oral thing... "Oh baby my jaw hurts!" Give me a fricking break..(please)!  Anything that can talk that much should be able to suck a watermelon through a garden hose, of course this is just an observation.  Which leads me to my favorite saying, " I've got a tongue that's long and a back that's mighty strong "  The sisters think so too...  I've yet to have a Caucasian and by the looks of things it won't ever happen ;)..  I've struck some gold with my current love.... :) :) :) :)  

yum, i love tops

arn't power bottoms same as aggresive bottom?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 04:34:37 pm
yum, i love tops

arn't power bottoms same as aggresive bottom?

Yes.  But with more spark.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: marc11864 on February 21, 2007, 04:36:12 pm
Well, I consider myself versatile leaning to bottom but have been called a professional bottom before which puts a huge smile on my face  ;D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Lou-ah-vull on February 21, 2007, 04:58:00 pm
I always like to agree with Jonathan....I vote Libertarian too!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 05:13:14 pm
yum, i love tops

arn't power bottoms same as aggresive bottom?

Powerbottoms are not just aggresive. It's more in the approach of finding complete satisfaction completely satisfying his top. They are known for their fearlessness, stamina and ability to absorb an assault with gusto and good humor. The only thing a powerbottom fears is a lack of randy tops and, perhaps, hemorroids.

Without powerbottoms we tops would be lonely souls indeed.

Brent
(Who appreciates being in total control)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 05:18:29 pm
Powerbottoms are not just aggresive. It's more in the approach of finding complete satisfaction completely satisfying his top. They are known for their fearlessness, stamina and ability to absorb an assault with gusto and good humor. The only thing a powerbottom fears is a lack of randy tops and, perhaps, hemorroids.

Without powerbottoms we tops would be lonely souls indeed.

Brent knows his powerbottoms, and by extension... me... quite well.

Excellent definition of "spark" there, Brent. 
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Longislander on February 21, 2007, 05:22:29 pm
ahh, memories of that powerbottom....................... ;D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: fondeveau on February 21, 2007, 05:32:49 pm
just wondering....

can anal sex cause some sort of injury to someone's intestine?


He gotta be an absolutely huge mutha...see pics at:

http://tperkins.com/anal/anal_anatomy.html
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: heartforyou on February 21, 2007, 06:05:22 pm
An absolute buttlover here... invite me in please...

Hermie
Tennessee has a very sexy butt running around the Jackson area....
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: allopathicholistic on February 21, 2007, 06:05:47 pm

He gotta be an absolutely huge mutha...see pics at:

http://tperkins.com/anal/anal_anatomy.html

OMG fondev  :P

... and Marc I want you all to my selfish self  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: marc11864 on February 21, 2007, 06:21:37 pm
... and Marc I want you all to my selfish self  :P  ;)

as long as you don't have a heart condition!  ;D

Hmmm, I see the anal canal on the page in the link. Is that anything like the Erie canal?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: fondeveau on February 21, 2007, 06:25:48 pm
I got a guy his name is Sal...15 miles on Sal's eerie canal...er maybe 15 inches...
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 06:36:21 pm
as long as you don't have a heart condition!  ;D

Hmmm, I see the anal canal on the page in the link. Is that anything like the Erie canal?

Mine's more like the Panamanal Canal. 

In that there's a lot of traffic in it.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 06:54:40 pm
There's nothing wrong with a well-travelled road, especially on long journeys.

Brent
(Who's a whizz with maps)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: allopathicholistic on February 21, 2007, 06:55:59 pm
Mine's more like the Panamanal Canal. 

In that there's a lot of traffic in it.

you go, panoramic canal!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 06:57:59 pm
Thank you, Alex.

And unlike the Panama Canal... ships aren't stopped from travelling through my Panamanal Canal due to being too wide.

In fact, they're sort of encouraged to make the journey.

And also unlike the Panama Canal, there's no toll.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Alain on February 21, 2007, 07:00:30 pm
middle
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: marc11864 on February 21, 2007, 07:08:43 pm
and also unlike the Panama Canal, there's no toll.

Do you have a toll booth though?  ;D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 07:11:36 pm
Do you have a toll booth though?  ;D

Yup.  It's like a bar... well, it is a bar. 

And I require drinks.  Free drinks.  Several of them... so I can get my charm on.   ;)

A pack of cigarettes is also a guarantee for a return trip. 
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: marc11864 on February 21, 2007, 07:18:19 pm
Yup.  It's like a bar... well, it is a bar. 

And I require drinks.  Free drinks.  Several of them... so I can get my charm on.   ;)

A pack of cigarettes is also a guarantee for a return trip.

Well sign me up then!

Uhmmm, I feel compelled to tell you at this point however that I'm HIV positive. Hope you don't mind.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 07:20:30 pm
Well sign me up then!

Uhmmm, I feel compeled to tell you at this point however that I'm HIV positive. Hope you don't mind.

Me too!  Oh my God!  What a small world!

That works out really well, too!

I wanna be the first kid on my block to collect all 459,825,271 strains of HIV! 
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: marc11864 on February 21, 2007, 07:24:31 pm
Me too!  Oh my God!  What a small world!

That works out really well, too!

I wanna be the first kid on my block to collect all 459,825,271 strains of HIV!

You better get started then. It's almost dinner time!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 07:25:47 pm
You better get started then. It's almost dinner time!

Don't you mean... that you better get started?  ;D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: dtwpuck on February 21, 2007, 07:26:28 pm
Top or bottom?  I can't decide.  I have too much fun doing both, and I am really into both,  but rarely with the same guy.   Some guys are meant to be f***d and some guys are just top material. 
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: blondbeauty on February 21, 2007, 07:29:46 pm
For more details see my profile. www.mygaydar.com/hermle
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 07:38:45 pm
PLEASE DO NOT TELL LIES ON TEH INTRANETS!!!111ONE!!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 07:39:32 pm
PS:  I could prove that I'm the biggest bottom on this board

just ask me
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 07:42:08 pm
PLEASE DO NOT TELL LIES ON TEH INTRANETS!!!111ONE!!

The Internet:  Serious Fucking Business.

And Philly... prove it.

I am feeling puckish this evening.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 07:44:12 pm
The Internet:  Serious Fucking Business.

And Philly... prove it.

I am feeling puckish this evening.

I've never, ever, NEVER achieved an orgasm in the top position.  I'm kind of embarrassed, and also rather proud.  ha ha
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 07:48:13 pm
I've never, ever, NEVER achieved an orgasm in the top position.  I'm kind of embarrassed, and also rather proud.  ha ha

Actually, of all the times I've topped... I've achieved orgasm only about like 20% of the time while doing it.  60% of the time, I stopped and did something else cause I realized it wasn't going to happen... and the remaining 20% was me passing out drunk on some guy.   :D

But yeah, it's a rare occasion for me to orgasm while topping. 

I dig you.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Ihavehope on February 21, 2007, 07:52:19 pm
I could never come when bttming, it was Embarrasing.

Topping was easier for me, especially muscle boys.. mmmm..

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 07:55:43 pm
Actually, of all the times I've topped... I've achieved orgasm only about like 20% of the time while doing it.  60% of the time, I stopped and did something else cause I realized it wasn't going to happen... and the remaining 20% was me passing out drunk on some guy.   :D

But yeah, it's a rare occasion for me to orgasm while topping. 

I dig you.

You guyz are such holes. Gotta love ya...

Brent
(Who prefers to seed above all else)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Ihavehope on February 21, 2007, 07:59:44 pm
My first experience bttming was in 1999 when I was 17 and met this nice Puerto-Rican guy from the Bronx, thug and masc and we dated for about 7 months and since I didn't have a place and he was still livng at home as well we never had sex. He claimed to be a total top. After 7 months of pressure he got me drunk and told me to chill and relax. Since he was the first guy I was with and had hardly seen many guys naked he was about 10" long but it was too thick. about 8" thick and I hated it. I hated it with a passion because he got tired of trying to top me and I couldn't take it. So we broke up because of this. I was very into the guy and we tried but he didnt want to bottom and I always was scared to be with him because it was soooo fuckin thick.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 08:01:16 pm
You guyz are such holes. Gotta love ya...

You gotta have somewhere to stick it, dontcha?   ::)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 08:07:23 pm
You gotta have somewhere to stick it, dontcha?   ::)


Dearest-

The observation was hardly a complaint.

Brent
(Who thought that he'd cleared that all up)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 08:08:50 pm
Dearest-

The observation was hardly a complaint.

Brent
(Who thought that he'd cleared that all up)

Oh, it had been cleared up.

My question was ironically rhetorical.

Don't ask me what that means... it just sounds impressive and rather cryptic... especially (and probably only) to me.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Dan J. on February 21, 2007, 08:35:20 pm
An absolute buttlover here... invite me in please...

Hermie
Tennessee has a very sexy butt running around the Jackson area....

You ain't puttin' nothing im MY BUTT Herman M.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 08:45:41 pm
My first experience bttming was in 1999 when I was 17 and met this nice Puerto-Rican guy from the Bronx, thug and masc and we dated for about 7 months and since I didn't have a place and he was still livng at home as well we never had sex. He claimed to be a total top. After 7 months of pressure he got me drunk and told me to chill and relax. Since he was the first guy I was with and had hardly seen many guys naked he was about 10" long but it was too thick. about 8" thick and I hated it. I hated it with a passion because he got tired of trying to top me and I couldn't take it. So we broke up because of this. I was very into the guy and we tried but he didnt want to bottom and I always was scared to be with him because it was soooo fuckin thick.

Can I have his phone number, please?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 08:49:15 pm
All this talk reminds me of a song that my friend Stef made up for her band Toxic Shock Syndrome (chick punk band... good name, isn't it?).

"Won't You Please, Please, Please Stick It In My Anus?"

That was the refrain... and I'll always remember the last lines.

"Now, don't you think I'm a slut
Just cause I like it in the butt."

This was from the same creative genius who gave us the song "Seafood in a Can."
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 08:51:07 pm
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Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: mjmel on February 21, 2007, 08:52:17 pm
You ain't puttin' nothing im MY BUTT Herman M.
:D :D Something got Mr. Dan J 's attention!  :D :D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 08:52:36 pm
All this talk reminds me of a song that my friend Stef made up for her band Toxic Shock Syndrome (chick punk band... good name, isn't it?).

"Won't You Please, Please, Please Stick It In My Anus?"

That was the refrain... and I'll always remember the last lines.

"Now, don't you think I'm a slut
Just cause I like it in the butt."

This was from the same creative genius who gave us the song "Seafood in a Can."

Got any MP3s to share?

Brent
(Who loves the Punk)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 08:55:26 pm
Got any MP3s to share?

Brent
(Who loves the Punk)

I'm afraid that Toxic Shock Syndrome met its tragic and untimely end in 2004 when its members started fighting... they hadn't gotten very far with much of anything (as in, they never played a single show despite Stef's efforts to get them there) and only existed as a unit for a few months... but we still call them the TSS girls. 

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 08:58:03 pm
I'm afraid that Toxic Shock Syndrome met its tragic and untimely end in 2004 when its members started fighting... they hadn't gotten very far with much of anything (as in, they never played a single show despite Stef's efforts to get them there) and only existed as a unit for a few months... but we still call them the TSS girls. 



I thought you'd say that they were stuck in some dive/hole in the wall for weeks and perished.

Now that'd be punk  ;)

Brent
(Who both slammed and pogoed)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 08:59:32 pm
I thought you'd say that they were stuck in some dive/hole in the wall for weeks and perished.

Now that'd be punk  ;)

Brent
(Who both slammed and pogoed)

No... it was far less interesting than that.

Don't be afraid to pogo!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 09:00:13 pm
btw:  I *WISH* I was a top.  Everyone looks at me and expects it out of me... but alas. However, there is an adequate market for my look as a bottom.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 09:01:33 pm
btw:  I *WISH* I was a top.  Everyone looks at me and expects it out of me... but alas. However, there is an adequate market for my look as a bottom.

Me too. 

A lot of my straight guy friends think I'm what they call a "masculine gay guy," and they think it therefore follows that I only top.

Oh, the looks on their little faces when I crush that dream. 

Fun for me!

Oh yes.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 09:03:26 pm
btw:  I *WISH* I was a top.  Everyone looks at me and expects it out of me... but alas. However, there is an adequate market for my look as a bottom.

There is something incredibly sexy about the combo of an aggressive top's look and an aggressive bottom's acquiescence.

Brent
(Who can be up for the challenge)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 09:04:24 pm
Me too. 

A lot of my straight guy friends think I'm what they call a "masculine gay guy," and they think it therefore follows that I only top.

Oh, the looks on their little faces when I crush that dream. 

Fun for me!

Oh yes.

I'm sure it's one of sudden, peaked interest, doll.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 09:06:01 pm
I'm sure it's one of sudden, peaked interest, doll.

I've actually never been very interested in trying to seduce straight men.

I mean, it's happened before (thank you, vodka)... but not something that I really care about.

Sometimes I feel like I'm missing out.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 21, 2007, 09:13:12 pm
I've actually never been very interested in trying to seduce straight men.

I mean, it's happened before (thank you, vodka)... but not something that I really care about.

Sometimes I feel like I'm missing out.

Trade make lousy, guilty lays, especially when trying to bottom. I don't recommend it except as a side-kink and a mind-fuck.

Brent
(Who has had both a trade phase and a vagrant phase)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 21, 2007, 09:14:18 pm
I know where to land married, straight Dominican men.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: David_CA on February 21, 2007, 09:20:43 pm
Mine's more like the Panamanal Canal. 

In that there's a lot of traffic in it.

And a lot of seamen in it, too, I'll bet.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 21, 2007, 09:23:48 pm
I know where to land married, straight Dominican men.

I have to ask.

Where?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Pippet on February 21, 2007, 09:53:05 pm
I like this poll.  It makes for good readin'.  :o
It has been said that there are 4 bottoms to every top.  I think they need to take another census.
I'm strictly a top, it improves my chances of getting laid.   ;D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: dtwpuck on February 21, 2007, 10:51:08 pm
I like this poll.  It makes for good readin'.  :o
It has been said that there are 4 bottoms to every top.  I think they need to take another census.
I'm strictly a top, it improves my chances of getting laid.   ;D

Explain to me why it is then when I am in a top mood I only ever find other tops. 
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: sdcabincrew74 on February 21, 2007, 11:09:06 pm
Totally vers, but sometimes just in the mood to be a piggy btm, LOL.  Love to flip/flop!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: RobT on February 21, 2007, 11:14:34 pm
Exactly how scientific is this? I am versatile, but prefer to bottom.

RobT
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 21, 2007, 11:44:23 pm
so why can't some of you bottoms reach orgasm when topping? i mean, whdy do you guys think that is? we are male species, born to  be able to fuck and reach an orgasm. why why why???

to other bottoms, what do yo uthink about having an ansu righ on your face?
do you guys like it? or do you guys think its gross? or do you guys think its hot? if you like it, why not want to fuck it?

how much is our preference psychological or based on our first sexual experiences or is it in any way physical?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: fearless on February 21, 2007, 11:58:37 pm
I'm far too masochistic to be a top.

I have, however, been accused of topping from the bottom by some s&m leather puppy, shortly before he packed his whip and dildos and left.  :'(
Finding a top, who truly understands that real pain is pleasure has been no easy task.

EDIT: I need to qualify that. There was a time when I actively sought out physically abusive situations, and I guess there is a part of me that probably still wants to. But, I didn't have a lot of respect for myself in those days. I'm super tame these day and rarely get into any sort of mischief. I'm pretty tame/lame these days.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 12:28:34 am
I have to ask.

Where?

http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_your_park/historical_signs/hs_historical_sign.php?id=8258
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 12:30:42 am
so why can't some of you bottoms reach orgasm when topping? i mean, whdy do you guys think that is? we are male species, born to  be able to fuck and reach an orgasm. why why why???

to other bottoms, what do yo uthink about having an ansu righ on your face?
do you guys like it? or do you guys think its gross? or do you guys think its hot? if you like it, why not want to fuck it?

how much is our preference psychological or based on our first sexual experiences or is it in any way physical?

It is, because it is...
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: joemutt on February 22, 2007, 01:05:51 am
Give and you shall receive
and I give as good as I get.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 22, 2007, 01:07:14 am
I have long ago accepted my freaky. I make no apologies, and frankly do little in the way of struggling to understand it. I am who I am, I like what I like, and I have little desire to change. I've had boyfriends who have wanted me to change, but not for long.  I like the roving freakshow that is Jonathan. And when/if I find the guy worthy, I will make an amazing and perhaps even monogamous boyfriend.

There is nothing wrong with being who you are, and loving the way you see fit. Anything else is a lie of the worst sort, a fundamental self-deception in which everyone eventually suffers.



Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 01:10:13 am
so why can't some of you bottoms reach orgasm when topping? i mean, whdy do you guys think that is? we are male species, born to  be able to fuck and reach an orgasm. why why why???

to other bottoms, what do yo uthink about having an ansu righ on your face?
do you guys like it? or do you guys think its gross? or do you guys think its hot? if you like it, why not want to fuck it?

how much is our preference psychological or based on our first sexual experiences or is it in any way physical?

Preference is psychological. Orientation is biological.

I, for one, can understand a strict bottom's reasoning very well, because it is the polarity of my own.

I have no talent whatsoever as a bottom. But I am really deeply envious of skilled bottoms, as they experience things I truly cannot. And it is a total irony that I turn shreiking nelly queer at the proposal that I try.

Brent
(Who makes up for it in other areas)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 01:12:23 am
I have long ago accepted my freaky. I make no apologies, and frankly do little in the way of struggling to understand it. I am who I am, I like what I like, and I have little desire to change. I've had boyfriends who have wanted me to change, but not for long.  I like the roving freakshow that is Jonathan. And when/if I find the guy worthy, I will make an amazing and perhaps even monogamous boyfriend.

There is nothing wrong with being who you are, and loving the way you see fit. Anything else is a lie of the worst sort, a fundamental self-deception in which everyone eventually suffers.





Well said, sir.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 01:36:42 am
But I am really deeply envious of skilled bottoms, as they experience things I truly cannot.

Yes, yes we do!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: slimbimale on February 22, 2007, 02:07:28 am
For me I love to be a bottom ..depends on the guy ..in some cases I loved being a top as well ...all of my friends think I am a " total top " because I am so mascline ..and when I am with a women..I have no choice ( never had one pull out a strap-on ...lol .)  ;D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Cerrid on February 22, 2007, 03:25:39 am
Every way that I can.

Which, coincidentally, is also the 2003 Eurovision Song Contest's winning title by Sertab Erener. I have it printed on a T-shirt so peoples know exactly what to expect. ;D




Edited to add that, thinking about it, heterosexual males usually expect me to top them whereas gay men mostly assume I'm a natural bottom. Seems like one of Mother Natures's little mysteries...
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ryeguy on February 22, 2007, 06:59:32 am
This has become so Kindergärten, I love it!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 09:12:11 am
Shouldn't this be in "Off Topic"?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aztecan on February 22, 2007, 10:15:03 am
The trick is to allow the top to think he is in control. Or course, he isn't, but he thinks he is.

Also remember, the top is neever too big, too thick or too long. Accommodation is the spice of any sex life - especially if the alley is dark.

By the way, power bottoms may be OK, but bottomless bottoms paved the way.

HUGS and SQUISHES,

Mark
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Moffie65 on February 22, 2007, 10:21:54 am
Oh Mark, you are a genuinely twisted sister......  You are the first one, next to me, who has pointed out the obvious, that the Bottom ALWAYS Rules!  Gee, shades of the End Up for Sunday afternoon tea.  Or the patio of the San Francisco Eagle,,,,ANYTIME..

Personally, I always loved The Trench, especially on Uncut Wednesdays when drinks were free for all us uncuts.

Whhooooopeee.....   

(cracking up at "never too big, thick, or long....)

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aztecan on February 22, 2007, 10:38:44 am
I had fun at the End Up too, and the Trench holds many special memories!

The Eagle was festive. I once was in a contest involving dog leashes and teeth, but I won't go into details. I won. Need I say more?

I also remember having an especially festive weekend at The Brig.

Down south, I enjoyed the PIts in L.A., and the Manspace, as long as you didn't lean on the walls (they were very sticky - too much Crisco).

Cuffs on Hyperion used to be quite the spot as well, and the Detour on Melrose had a patio that often was festive.

Ah, memories. Tim, someday you and I should share notes. It seems we have already shared a lot.  ;)

HUGS,

Mark
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Moffie65 on February 22, 2007, 10:43:11 am
"It seems we have already shared a lot"

Tim holds his fingersssssssssssssssssssssss......................

Cuffs, and Detour.... wow, that caught me off guard.  I forgot about those.  Way too many Macy's manequins in Cuffs.

Hell, I need to click off and go back to George and Gracie!

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 22, 2007, 12:04:20 pm
The trick is to allow the top to think he is in control. Or course, he isn't, but he thinks he is.

Also remember, the top is neever too big, too thick or too long. Accommodation is the spice of any sex life - especially if the alley is dark.

By the way, power bottoms may be OK, but bottomless bottoms paved the way.

HUGS and SQUISHES,

hmm, sounds like some gay chinese old saying ( i can't think of that word!!!!!, this keeps happeneing, I can't pull certain words out of my mouth, argghhhhhh, and I 've been getting forgetful lately, i guess the meds or the hiv)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 22, 2007, 12:09:46 pm
Shouldn't this be in "Off Topic"?

well, the reason why i raised it here is because i wanted to find out sexual behavior of gay people represented on this forum and the spread of hiv.

seeing that there are way more bottoms than tops and way more versatiles than bottoms, it seems that if gay people had strict preference such as being a bottom or being a top, maybe the spread would have plagued the gay community less? It seems that it its the versatile behavior that have cuased wide and fast spread of hiv in the us and in europe. for an instance, there are always strict rold in the straight sex on who is the top (male, the inserter or the penetrator) or who is the bottom (female).
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Moffie65 on February 22, 2007, 12:12:44 pm
Listen, this is very much a subject that needs to be in this forum, because it is very much about "Living with HIV".  Off Topic is for discussing CSI and other shit like that.

Just sayin.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: redhotmuslbear on February 22, 2007, 12:20:33 pm
btw:  I *WISH* I was a top.  Everyone looks at me and expects it out of me... but alas. However, there is an adequate market for my look as a bottom.


Sign me up!  I'll be in Philly in three weeks.

I advertise as a dom top and provide bottoms with what one called "the mind-altering fuck of a lifetime."  That said, my partner says that I need a sign that says "You must THIS BIG <------ 10 inches -------> to ride this ride" as I will eagerly bottom and go sub for an attractive heavily endowed guy.

Really, if I'm going to get plowed, I want it to be memorable in the best way!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 12:37:44 pm
So you're a top who is really just an ole Size Queen.  How fucking greedy:)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: David_CA on February 22, 2007, 12:58:56 pm
The trick is to allow the top to think he is in control. Or course, he isn't, but he thinks he is.

Also remember, the top is neever too big, too thick or too long. Accommodation is the spice of any sex life - especially if the alley is dark.


Exactly.  Having a nice ass helps in attracting those hot tops.  I read some survey among gay men and straight women that the most arousing part on a man's body isn't chest, arms, face, or dick size.  It's a nice ass.  I kinda believe that, as a huge dick is a wonder, but a really nice butt is totally hot.  Of course, a nice ass won't make up for an unfortunate face, bad grill, or obscenely large gut, but it sure can be a standout on its own.  As to being too big (never seen one too big), it's just mind over matter.

David
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 12:59:38 pm
Great.  Lipo has given me NO ass.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: David_CA on February 22, 2007, 01:05:36 pm
Great.  Lipo has given me NO ass.

I'm sure you make up for it in other ways!   ;)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Val on February 22, 2007, 01:13:01 pm
Well, this is really funny 'cause I know someone in these forums who is  be able to discern, among forum members and  with an almost extraordinary exactitude,   who is top and who is bottom!   And quite frankly, I am indeed amazed s/he has not echoed here some of the truth he'd tell us in Amsterdam regarding the subject discussed here...!
Anyway, I am what I am i.e. Top!  

Val
___
___
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 01:49:20 pm
Exactly.  Having a nice ass helps in attracting those hot tops.  I read some survey among gay men and straight women that the most arousing part on a man's body isn't chest, arms, face, or dick size.  It's a nice ass.  I kinda believe that, as a huge dick is a wonder, but a really nice butt is totally hot.  Of course, a nice ass won't make up for an unfortunate face, bad grill, or obscenely large gut, but it sure can be a standout on its own.  As to being too big (never seen one too big), it's just mind over matter.

David

This is why I wear women's jeans.  They fit me better and show off the butt so much better.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: redhotmuslbear on February 22, 2007, 02:09:39 pm
This is why I wear women's jeans.  They fit me better and show off the butt so much better.

Thank you for giving me a hilarious mental image of myself trying to fit into women's jeans!  I've got a beefy, muscular ass that looks great in 501s or khakis, but it seems that women who wear a 35 waist have much bigger bootays....and I so loathe that "ppop in your pants" baggy look!  Also, having well-developed legs from excessive strength training (29 thigh, 21.5 calves... really!) would make getting women's jeans on impossible.  Hell, I have to baby the 501s with cold-water washes and air drying to keep their legs from becoming too tight!

Still, if there was a body part of a man that I look at more than any other, even on a guy packing 10 inches on more  :o , it's gotta be the ass!  My partner has a firm little ass that I saw across a playspace the night we met and first had sex, and I knew that I had to have it as soon as I saw it!

-D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 02:20:38 pm
The trick is to allow the top to think he is in control. Or course, he isn't, but he thinks he is.



It's all a dance, sweetheart.

It goes without saying that each partner has what the other's looking for, and an accomplished lover, in either role, needs to bring everything to the table (or bed or alley or toilet stall) to ensure the optimal performance of the other. As an erection can be a tricky (and fragile) thing, it is as much a state of mind as a physiological condition. In the fog of passion, it's the bottom who has the greater power and control over what is done and for how long. It is the top's job to maintain and excellerate the arousal and stamina of the bottom if he wishes to keep going beyond a half-hour quickie.

Brent
(Who'd like to thank all the bottoms who've made it all possible)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 02:22:00 pm
It's all a dance, sweetheart.

A rectal tango, if you will.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: manchesteruk on February 22, 2007, 02:22:36 pm
Well going by that poll i'm very much in the minority here, story of my life haha.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 22, 2007, 02:25:37 pm
half-hour quickie?

Eep.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 02:26:31 pm
This is why I wear women's jeans.  They fit me better and show off the butt so much better.

Frankie B or True Religion?

Brent
(Who looks indecent in women's jeans)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 02:28:09 pm
Thank you for giving me a hilarious mental image of myself trying to fit into women's jeans!  I've got a beefy, muscular ass that looks great in 501s or khakis, but it seems that women who wear a 35 waist have much bigger bootays....and I so loathe that "ppop in your pants" baggy look!  Also, having well-developed legs from excessive strength training (29 thigh, 21.5 calves... really!) would make getting women's jeans on impossible.  Hell, I have to baby the 501s with cold-water washes and air drying to keep their legs from becoming too tight!

Still, if there was a body part of a man that I look at more than any other, even on a guy packing 10 inches on more  :o , it's gotta be the ass!  My partner has a firm little ass that I saw across a playspace the night we met and first had sex, and I knew that I had to have it as soon as I saw it!

-D

OK... judging from how built you look in your avatar... you trying on women's jeans would probably be absolutely hilarious!  You have a 35 inch waist?  G'damn... you work out a lot.  Sometimes I wish I was built more like you... I have a 29-30 inch waist.  I'm little. 

Even though I walk about 3-5 miles a day... I still have legs that are not well developed at all.  Except for the butt.  The butt is developed... so I figure I might as well show it off (damn, I'm giving away all my motives for dressing the way I do!) until some drug gets rid of it. 

That said, I have this really kick ass pair of black pin-stripe women's pants that have earned the nickname "booty pants."  Not so much because my ass looks great in them... but because they've worked wonders at attracting the tops and getting me booty.

Oh yes.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 02:28:18 pm
29" thigh

-D

Ouch! I have a 28" waist!

Brent
(Who is small but sturdy)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 02:31:05 pm
half-hour quickie?

Eep.


Hate quickies...I'd rather just do it myself.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Dachshund on February 22, 2007, 02:38:48 pm
Ouch! I have a 28" waist!

Brent
(Who is small but sturdy)



Hey I wear a 28" waist...but I am much more comfortable in a 40.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 02:42:51 pm
28" waist and your a top?    Barbara please!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: budndallastx on February 22, 2007, 02:45:44 pm
Quote
The trick is to allow the top to think he is in control. Or course, he isn't, but he thinks he is.

Mark, you're absolutely right !!  I let him think they're in control, get an evil smile on my face and then I love the look on their face when they realize they were just taken along for the ride !!

This is a great thread !!  I haven't laughed this much in days, of course, I am on a conference call all day (boring one at that!) 


Tom
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 03:15:50 pm
28" waist and your a top?    Barbara please!

Lean, aggressive powertops are all the rage, Sylvia darling. Years of lipid-controlled diet (thanks Kaletra) and Zerit have pretty much eliminated my body fat, and I never had any ass to speak of anyways.

At 5'6 I'm very proportional. Besides, big things occasionally come in small(er) packages.

Brent
(Who wears 10 1/2 EEE and sometimes 11)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Queen Tokelove on February 22, 2007, 03:20:20 pm
  Well since you ask I must tell ;).   I'm a top by default.  In my experience the women from Miami have very little lasting power when it comes to getting on top.  When I say getting on top, I don't mean none of that straddling bullsh*t either...  I want the Olympic squat routine or nothing... yes women hate when you time this event I have learned.  Don't get me started on the oral thing... "Oh baby my jaw hurts!" Give me a fricking break..(please)!  Anything that can talk that much should be able to suck a watermelon through a garden hose, of course this is just an observation.  Which leads me to my favorite saying, " I've got a tongue that's long and a back that's mighty strong "  The sisters think so too...  I've yet to have a Caucasian and by the looks of things it won't ever happen ;)..  I've struck some gold with my current love.... :) :) :) :)   

And I figured you for a top too, I wonder why.. ;) I am a top and that is where I achieve the most orgasms. I am not doing no damn Olympic squats but instead laying it down thoroughly. I never had any complaints, so I'm not changing a thing, if it ain't broke don't fix it, dammit.

And the oral thing, I can relate to sadly. I don't have a problem with the act but has problems performing the act. I don't know if you paid attention to my pic when I had it posted but I have a small mouth. Yeah, I know you heard that one before too. My jaw locks on me too. I have watched porno after porno trying to come up with a technique that works for me but none does. I have a gag reflex also. I use to say that same exact saying back in the day when it came to the type of man I was looking for. *minds goes back to a past lover*...*sighs*
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Londonguy on February 22, 2007, 03:27:14 pm
I started off as a top and eventually worked myself down to about 80% bottom.  More pleasurable for me, and I get off on the feeling of being dominated  ;)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 03:29:55 pm
I started off as a top and eventually worked myself down to about 80% bottom.  More pleasurable for me, and I get off on the feeling of being dominated  ;)

Me too.

Let's write a book together.  :D
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: GSOgymrat on February 22, 2007, 03:58:15 pm
I pride myself on being versatile. That said, I'm a much better top than bottom. While I know everyone has their preferences I could never see myself with anyone long-term who was not versatile unless they had some medical problem. Everyone has limits but guys who have narrow interests in bed are tiresome. It's like being with someone who wants to eat pizza every night. Also, I know some guys find servicing men who won't reciprocate thrilling but that just pisses me off.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: redhotmuslbear on February 22, 2007, 05:56:22 pm
I started off as a top and eventually worked myself down to about 80% bottom.  More pleasurable for me, and I get off on the feeling of being dominated  ;)

Dammit!  There you go, making me more horny than usual... again!  I prefer getting off as a "service top," totally in control and dom but dedicated to the bottom's pleasure.  ....screw CSI, let's produce the first porno spawned on via pox.com and aidsmeds.com!

As for half-hour quickie.... yeah, that's about right for me!  I'm not ograsmically challenged, but I like a slow intimate fuck, even with a one-time lay.  Build up the energy and connection for a great release.  WOOF!

..... oh, good, my partner is home!  He likes coming home to a randy bear who wants it NOW!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: dtwpuck on February 22, 2007, 05:56:48 pm
. Also, I know some guys find servicing men who won't reciprocate thrilling but that just pisses me off.
Doesn't it though.  I find myself more and more saying "gee, that was unexciting".  Unless I take control I usually don't have that much fun. 
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 06:21:24 pm
Also, I know some guys find servicing men who won't reciprocate thrilling but that just pisses me off.

I'm one of those who finds it thrilling.   ::)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ACinKC on February 22, 2007, 06:31:19 pm
I'm one of those who finds it thrilling.   ::)

Ditto.  Use me.  That was my policy.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 06:33:29 pm
Ditto.  Use me.  That was my policy.

I love those people who are like, "Why do you do that?  That's so degrading."

Congratulations, you've stumbled into the perimeter of wisdom!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: redhotmuslbear on February 22, 2007, 06:46:26 pm
I love those people who are like, "Why do you do that?  That's so degrading."
Congratulations, you've stumbled into the perimeter of wisdom!

They just have no understanding of power dynamics and the concept that consented sex, however you choose to define it, doesn't have to be quid pro quo

Sure, I like to get a bottom off.  However, there are plenty of times when I just want to use one like the one-dimensional object he desires to be  :o
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 06:48:05 pm
They just have no understanding of power dynamics and the concept that consented sex, however you choose to define it, doesn't have to be quid pro quo

Sure, I like to get a bottom off.  However, there are plenty of times when I just want to use one like the one-dimensional object he desires to be  :o

Exactly... and it's not like I want that all the time... I'm just saying that everyone now and then, it's hot to be the one-dimensional hole thing.

I quote Billy Chenowith from Six Feet Under, "There's always a fucked up power dynamic in sex."
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: antibody on February 22, 2007, 07:07:07 pm
pretty sure i picked up hiv by taking it up the pooper  :o
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 08:07:45 pm
I'm one of those who finds it thrilling.   ::)

I'll take you to Ft. Washington park when we go to NYC.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 08:08:48 pm
I'll take you to Ft. Washington park when we go to NYC.

Whoo hoo!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Londonguy on February 22, 2007, 08:18:08 pm
However, there are plenty of times when I just want to use one like the one-dimensional object he desires to be  :o

 :-*  ;D

I'm sure a psychologist would have a field day with me and my desire to be used
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 08:19:34 pm
Whoo hoo!

Hope you like them dark, thick and uncut!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 08:20:10 pm
I'm sure a psychologist would have a field day with me and my desire to be used

He'd have a field day... on your ass!   :D

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Somebody stop me... no really...

I need professional help.  Oh yes.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 08:20:28 pm
Hope you like them dark, thick and uncut!

I'm slutty.

So yes.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ACinKC on February 22, 2007, 08:20:58 pm
They just have no understanding of power dynamics and the concept that consented sex, however you choose to define it, doesn't have to be quid pro quo

Sure, I like to get a bottom off.  However, there are plenty of times when I just want to use one like the one-dimensional object he desires to be  :o

AMEN!  I used to LOVE that.  Not all the time as the pointed one says.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 22, 2007, 09:38:18 pm
AMEN!  I used to LOVE that.  Not all the time as the pointed one says.

Ooooh!  You should call me Mr. Pointy!

It's a Buffy reference...
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jyngfilm on February 22, 2007, 09:45:20 pm
jeez, i feel like i'm reading someones diary>>  just help me to the next page
 i feed one's obsession, does that make me a top or a bottom?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Maestro on February 22, 2007, 09:48:41 pm
I'm sure I will get shit for this, but doesn't this topic belong in the Off-Topic or something?  People get all bent out of shape when someone says HIV is a gay disease and then a first timer might come to this board looking for info in the Living With HIV topic and see this topic with over 170 replies easily the most commented on in a while.  What's the word I'm looking for?  Hypocrite?  Nah...

Just my 2 cents...

M
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 22, 2007, 09:54:56 pm
Glad I'm not bottoming tonight.  I've been in the bathroom four times in the last hour with some filthy constipation.  I feel like I just gave birth to two sets of twins.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: puertorico2006 on February 22, 2007, 10:28:58 pm
Top or bottom for me depends on the celestial placement of the planets, time of year, temperature, and my mood i guess. Lately ive been a top (cant relax enough to bottom the past few months)....but i used to be way more bottom than top....i change preferences every few years/months....must be that damn bipolar disorder hehehe

I like fucking muscular bottoms though its fun ;-)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aztecan on February 22, 2007, 11:35:06 pm
Hey M,

Actually, no, this thread is right where it belongs. As Tim (Moffie) pointed out earlier on, this also is a part of living with HIV.

No, its not a gay disease, but a lot of gay men have it.

Living with HIV is more than just discussing meds, lipids, OIs and doctor visits. It also involves realizing that HIV has not destroyed our abilities to be sexual beings.

That is very important, especially since the likelihood is many people will be living with this bug for 20 or 30 years.

It would be wrong to avoid discussing gay sex, or any sex, just because it wasn't PC or because some new person might come along and read it.

This type of thread shows we are indeed living with this bug, not just existing. We are human beings with the same needs, desires and kinks as we had before we caught the bug.

So, that's my dissertation from the soapbox for tonight.   ::)

Sorry I was so long-winded.

HUGS,

Mark
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 22, 2007, 11:41:51 pm
I don't want to harsh the buzz, but I do have a question.

Um, as someone who has diarrhea several times a day, and has enjoyed that condition for upwards of a year, I have to ask how people manage anal sex with advanced HIV or under the grip of HAART. I've had to basically take the booty factory off the menu, which leaves me with an oral-only experience. Now exactly the least fulfilling thing, but also, well, not the most.

What do you guys do to overcome the HIV related obstacles like anal fissures, hemmorrhoids, and diarrhea? I mean, it really really hurts down there whenever I try. Last time I managed, I bled for weeks after.

Jonathan
(A ship, longing for the sea, and yet afraid)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 11:55:49 pm
I'm sure I will get shit for this, but doesn't this topic belong in the Off-Topic or something?  People get all bent out of shape when someone says HIV is a gay disease and then a first timer might come to this board looking for info in the Living With HIV topic and see this topic with over 170 replies easily the most commented on in a while.  What's the word I'm looking for?  Hypocrite?  Nah...

Just my 2 cents...

M


If I worried about the opinions of those who haven't met me as much as you seem to, M, I'd have no time left for myself.

I am by no means a psychopath, but the opinions of those unburdened by my acquaintance hasn't concerned me in years.

Brent
(Who truly doesn't care what most people think of him)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on February 22, 2007, 11:58:11 pm
Not to step over your post, Jonathan...sorry. I have nothing to suggest beyond immodium and thorough douching.

Although chocolate is an excellent binder, too.

Brent
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aztecan on February 23, 2007, 12:06:17 am
Jonathan,

You bring up a good point. Back before I was diagnosed as a celiac, I pretty much lived with constant diarrhea for many years.

It would lessen or worsen depending on what I had been eating, although I didn't know that for a long time.

I basically stopped eating when I wanted to get laid, or i ate very little. It usually worked, but not always, so there were many nights I went home alone for lack of the ability to stop the hersheys.

I don't have any answers, but I can comisserate.

HUGS,

Mark
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 23, 2007, 12:12:37 am
I just get so frustrated, Brent. The spirit is willing, but the body... well, has rally started to let me down.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 23, 2007, 05:10:03 am
i am sorry, maybe try to skip couple of meals before you gonna get laid? have you tried eating yogurt or keifer?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 23, 2007, 08:11:16 am
are you taking any of that tincture of opium for your diarrhea?  (please note:  I have to spell check diarrhea EVERY TIME I WRITE IT.  I don't know why I can't remember it.  I am lame.)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: David_CA on February 23, 2007, 10:05:57 am
Cheese serves as an excellent binder for me.  Also, fiber supplements are supposed to help with regularity.  Another suggestion, though it may or may not be suitable, is do it in the shower, with the water running.  I've had many pleasurable anal experiences in a shower both as a top and as a bottom.  The warm water is nice, and the fact that it washes away any evidence is also a major plus.  On the other hand, I have swam in the muddy river before.  As long as there's good ventilation, I just don't look at it and clean up afterwards.  Afterall, my two thoughts on it are this: 1) play in mud and you'll get dirty and 2) shit happens. 

I've had one very embarrassing experience kind of related to the shits during sex.  While a friend was doing a bit of ass munching, I evidently relaxed a bit too much and out came the gas!   I was so appalled and embarrassed and did that nervous laugh thing, which caused more gas to follow.  Luckily, it didn't have much of an odor.  The fellow was a trooper and came up for air and went back to work.  I can't think of too many times I've felt as embarrassed as I did at that moment.  Too much information, probably, but the Adderall makes me really chatty!   ;)

D

edited to correct typo's
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aztecan on February 23, 2007, 10:37:09 am
Now that I'm off the gluten, I do pretty well.

Cheese is definitely a binder.  :o

Another thing that seems to help is rice.

Oh, David, I laughed so hard picturing you in your "embarrassing situation" I nearly had an accident.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

HUGS,

Mark

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 23, 2007, 10:49:08 am
I used to have a boyfriend who, when drunk, actually LIKED it dirty back there, and sweaty from dancing.  He'd go crazy eating out filthy ass... and I know that's bad for hepatitis so spare me the lecture.  This was over a decade ago.

The funny thing is that the next day when he was sober he'd lecture me on having a filthy ass.  I just replied that I always insisted on a quick shower and he'd say "No! I like it dirty!"

Silly Dominican boy!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ACinKC on February 23, 2007, 11:13:32 am
Glad I'm not bottoming tonight.  I've been in the bathroom four times in the last hour with some filthy constipation.  I feel like I just gave birth to two sets of twins.

Well if it was the Olsen twins it couldnt have been that bad!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ACinKC on February 23, 2007, 11:15:39 am
.  I am lame.)

Not JUST because you cant spell.

Just sayin...
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 23, 2007, 11:34:48 am
Not JUST because you cant spell.

Just sayin...

My spelling is atrocious, but what's wrong with what you just quoted?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ACinKC on February 23, 2007, 11:42:53 am
I shall elaborate on my humor.

You said.
(please note:  I have to spell check diarrhea EVERY TIME I WRITE IT.  I don't know why I can't remember it. I am lame.)

I said.
Not JUST because you cant spell.

What I was inferring was, you are LAME for MANY more reasons than the fact you can't remember how to spell diarrhea.  Jokes not funny now.  Thanks

AC
(Who shares the same spelling affliction of the word diarrehea as you do so i type squirts, or hershey squirts to get the message out.)

(Who feels remarkably unfunny right now.)

(and who suddenly feels like he is copying Matty and Bucko with this whole parenthetical "Who" game, but was sure he did it before they came back)


Edited to put the "n" in Parenthetical.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 23, 2007, 11:46:11 am
Humor is decidedly different in those fly over areas I've heard so much about.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ACinKC on February 23, 2007, 01:36:10 pm
If you would have seen me in my heyday....you would have landed.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 23, 2007, 01:41:06 pm
Thanks guys. I have tried all the food-related binders, to no avail. And to be fair, after so long, well, I'd probably benefit from having a professional look uup there, make sure there aren't any surgical candidates in the booty.

I am intrigued by the tincture of opium. I'd feel very 18th century using that. Which is kinda cool.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 23, 2007, 01:45:27 pm
jkinatl2:  the moderator of my small support group uses it and he SWEARS by it.  He was plagued by PI-related diarrhea for years too.  I can't believe they haven't offered it to you.

Also look into Pancrecarb -- I used it in addition to immodium and it aids in absorption, hence assisting your HAART crap.  Also is supposed to address flatulence and bloating.  Not sure if it does that but whatever.  My state ADAP pays for it too.

Just out of curiosity, what HAVE your doctors offered you for any relief.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: mjmel on February 23, 2007, 02:18:36 pm
Thanks guys. I have tried all the food-related binders, to no avail. And to be fair, after so long, well, I'd probably benefit from having a professional look uup there, make sure there aren't any surgical candidates in the booty.

I am intrigued by the tincture of opium. I'd feel very 18th century using that. Which is kinda cool.
some other binding foods: peanut butter and oatmeal (old fashioned; not instant). Try to introduce these into your daily diet; give it a while........a week or two. Calcium tablets help too. You'd want to get the oyster shell derivative since it will not be completely absorbed by stomach walls and will make it's way into intestinal track where it will aid by absorbing fluids. Hope suggestions throughout these recent postings helps you.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 23, 2007, 02:22:10 pm
hey johnathan,, whats your diet like?

what do you eat? i know some about diet and nutrition, so maybe i can give you some sort of advice. however, i do realize that your problem is caused by the meds or hiv related.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 23, 2007, 02:41:44 pm
If his problem is as bad as it seems he needs medicine, not nutritional advice.  I'm not knocking it, just speaking from experience.  Tincture of opium works for a reason -- think about it.  Opiates slow down your metabolism and make you constipated.  At most it will lesson his EXTREME diarrhea.  Unless you've had chronic explosive diarrhea you do NOT know what you are talking about.  It's just a different game, and a really REALLY bad one.  You don't leave your house, in fact you don't even l like being 5 ft. from the toilet.  You get NO warning when you have to go -- and then it's like urinating from your sphincter.  It's absolutely the most wretched thing in the world.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Maestro on February 23, 2007, 09:28:48 pm
Hey M,

Actually, no, this thread is right where it belongs. As Tim (Moffie) pointed out earlier on, this also is a part of living with HIV.

No, its not a gay disease, but a lot of gay men have it.

Living with HIV is more than just discussing meds, lipids, OIs and doctor visits. It also involves realizing that HIV has not destroyed our abilities to be sexual beings.

That is very important, especially since the likelihood is many people will be living with this bug for 20 or 30 years.

It would be wrong to avoid discussing gay sex, or any sex, just because it wasn't PC or because some new person might come along and read it.

This type of thread shows we are indeed living with this bug, not just existing. We are human beings with the same needs, desires and kinks as we had before we caught the bug.

So, that's my dissertation from the soapbox for tonight.   ::)

Sorry I was so long-winded.

HUGS,

Mark


Telling jokes and good stories is also a part of living with HIV.  So is eating, laughing, sleeping, and so on.  That doesn't mean they all belong in the same forum topic...IMHO
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 23, 2007, 10:10:17 pm
I decided overnight to officially become a top.   Any bottoms may submit an application in triplicate.  Coupons are available on my web site.  Leather is an extra surcharge.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: aupointillimite on February 23, 2007, 10:11:36 pm
I decided overnight to officially become a top.   Any bottoms may submit an application in triplicate.  Coupons are available on my web site.  Leather is an extra surcharge.

I can do a Power Point presentation for you with nifty graphics, bullet points, and handouts.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 23, 2007, 11:04:23 pm
My diet varies. Sometimes, I have salads and fresh veggies and lean meats. Other times, I have Cup O Ramen for days on end. It's really a financial thing, combined with how often my friends come over and bring dinner. I don't eat a lot of fats or sweets.

Nothing I notice has any impact on the diarrhea. If I take Immmodium, I run the risk of crippling constipation, which, if I wait it out long enough, is then followed by a new round of diarrhea. I try metamucil and other fibre therapies, bananas, rice, whatever. Surely there is an option that does not create an equal and opposite problem?

Its annoying beyond anything. It's not life or death. But its had a real impact on my sex life. Again, sorry for harshing collective buzz. I just wish I could enjoy that part of an adult's sexual experience again. Imiss it something awful.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 23, 2007, 11:11:05 pm
If his problem is as bad as it seems he needs medicine, not nutritional advice.  I'm not knocking it, just speaking from experience.  Tincture of opium works for a reason -- think about it.  Opiates slow down your metabolism and make you constipated.  At most it will lesson his EXTREME diarrhea.  Unless you've had chronic explosive diarrhea you do NOT know what you are talking about.  It's just a different game, and a really REALLY bad one.  You don't leave your house, in fact you don't even l like being 5 ft. from the toilet.  You get NO warning when you have to go -- and then it's like urinating from your sphincter.  It's absolutely the most wretched thing in the world.

sorry, didn't kinow it was that bad...
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 24, 2007, 12:09:29 am
Jonathan, I arrived at a combination of loperamide and Pancrecarb (specifically 3 mg/twice a day of loperamide and 3 capsules/twice a day of Pancrecarb).  The latter is worth looking into.  If it's that bad as you say, it may even be worse than what I had please do request the tincture of opium.  It's specifically for what you are describing.  Still, the Pancrecarb is good for digestive absorption, flatulence and bloating.

read this (http://www.houstonbuyersclub.com/gas___bloating.htm)

Quote
Prescription enzymes such as PANCRECARB by DIGESTIVE CARE are often reimbursed. The PANCRECARB drug combines enzymes with bicarbonate to improve enzyme action by creating proper ph in the small intestine. In a double-blind placebo-controlled study, Pancrecarb was shown to successfully reduce HAART 1 induced diarrhea, and is reported to reduce gas and bloating, as well.

Oh right, and it significantly went away when I switched to fuzeon.  That's like night and day, but adding the Pancrecarb helped significantly when I was on a double protease inhibitor regimen (Kaletra and Invirase)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Basquo on February 24, 2007, 12:37:41 am
I've been avoiding this thread because I thought it was in the wrong forum, but reading the last few posts made me want to back up Philly's comments on opium.

After seven months of loperimide, without much success, a new doctor prescribed a new combo of drugs for my IBS, including Lomotil.  My first reaction was, "this shit could've saved the Titanic" with it's plugging effects.  My life was changed. For the previous months I could go nowhere but work, home, and the grocery, and I had pit stops mapped out everywhere in between.   I had heard nightmares stories about Lomotil, but my situation was chronic, and socially crippling enough, that I was willing to try anything.  All of the sudden I could go to a movie.  I went to a party. One day, I took a 7-hour road trip to my home town and back, not needing a bathroom the whole time. I even mentioned in a thread prior to Montreal last year that I wasn't afraid of travelling out of the country--I would just find a toilet when I needed it. That was confidence I hadn't had in over a year.

Wrapping up, I recently learned that Lomotil contains opioids, trace amounts supposedly, but enough to test positive on a drug screen.  Should I need to have a drug screen, I'll be happy to tell them that opioids changed my life. For the better.  Three times a day.  And I have a new prescription that allows them to continue doing so up to four times a day.

Ever wonder why my outlook is most always Pansies and PuppydogsTM? My little secret is out.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 24, 2007, 12:55:43 am
Let me be clear -- I've never taken the tincture of opium.  I just found out it existed last year and by then my diarrhea was better from switching to fuzeon.  BUT it pissed me off to no end that I was never offered this previously, when doctors knew full well my problem and stared at me with big eyes when I stated I had to take TEN loperamides each day just to have *somewhat* firm stools.  Like that ten doesn't even make perfect shit, just minimally acceptable shit.  I blame them all for my resistance to Protease Inhibitors and that's why I'm so vocal about this issue.  DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR DIARRHEA IF IT IS REALLY REALLY BAD.

It's one thing to have to take 2 loperamides/day but NOT TEN.  Fuckers, and this spans several doctors so it's not like it was just one of them fucking up.  Makes me pissed off just thinking about it.  Yet another instance I'm sure of them being afraid of opiates out of some warped Calvinist American thinking.  Pass me my laudanum sweetie darling!

So Basquo -- this Lomotil is just a synthetic narcotic that's just like the tincture or what?  I think the tincture is liquid but I might be wrong.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 24, 2007, 01:06:56 am
Thats the thing. There HAS to be a solution to the awful diarrhea that does not involve nasty constipation and the roids and fissures that come with that.

Though the irony of losing my booty due to a disease I acquired through the healthy and vigourous use of the booty is not lost onme.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Basquo on February 24, 2007, 01:08:27 am
For working in healthcare, I'm remarkably non-clinical.  Wikipedia says these:

Quote
Lomotil is the trade name of a popular oral anti-diarrheal drug


Diphenoxylate is an opioid agonist used for the treatment of diarrhea that acts by slowing intestinal contractions.

I have no idea what an agonist is.  I just know I take Lomotil three times a day, now sometimes four.  
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 24, 2007, 01:12:34 am
speak for yourself girl -- I ain't got no roids and fissures! :)

Too bad you're not in NYC or I could send you to the best gay Jewish anus doctor in the city... the man is renowned!  Works wonders with a laser gun.  I had a dyslpasia of HPV treated by him... he's even written a book about gay butt sex.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 24, 2007, 01:33:34 am
I desperately need a Jewish ButtSex doctor. Not easy to find in Atl :)

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 24, 2007, 01:50:52 am
I could give you his name and number.  All these guys meet at conferences and make cliques.  Or I could call him and ask.  Everyone should get a PAP smear after having HIV ten years I was told.

I need to go for an inspection myself, but haven't set anything up since I moved from NYC 2 years ago.  I really don't want cancer of the butthole.  I know I've already got HPV, and I had a nasty bout of anal warts back in '97 or so.  I *so* know who gave them to me.  Fucker.  Those things were the WORST to get rid of, and *hello* I had an grade 4 external hemorrhoid at the same time.  I'd never had one, and I have not had one ever again.  I think it was from lifting a heavy air conditioner the wrong way with my back up four flights of stairs.  But the roid had to go away before they could attack the AW's so by the time that happened the AW's had magically multiplied as they are want to do.  Oh... that was a bad year!  That's when the diarreah began too -- I guess it's all like what you are enduring then.  I so get it now.  An external roid is so much worse than an internal one -- you feel like you're sitting on a little balloon!   Mine was so large I think my doctor had someone else come in to observe it.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 24, 2007, 02:07:42 am
Having had HPV and cancer of the butthole, I understand the reticense. Poor thing has been through so much. Though to be fair, I cannot complain if I am unable to use it again for that purpose. Maybe you only get a couple thousand uses per consumer. I mean, seriously. Its not like I havent put it through its paces.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: egello on February 24, 2007, 02:15:49 am
know of any good anus doctor in san diego?

i don't want my doctor to see my anus, i am kinda shy
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Basquo on February 24, 2007, 02:19:06 am
He (and probably an assistant) will properly drape you before the table is raised and you find out exactly how big his finger is, and how cold an anoscope can be.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Maestro on February 24, 2007, 05:15:18 pm
I desperately need a Jewish ButtSex doctor. Not easy to find in Atl :)



lol!  One of the funniest posts in a while...not sure if it was intentional or not, but it sure raised an eyebrow or 2!

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Miss Philicia on February 24, 2007, 05:39:11 pm
Jews control the butt doctor trade in NYC.  It's obviously a vast underground conspiracy.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: jkinatl2 on February 24, 2007, 05:58:23 pm
hey at this point? I'll take my buttsex from an intern, a nurse, a construction worker, a vet, or a community service work-release inmate.

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: northernguy on February 24, 2007, 11:21:08 pm
There is something incredibly sexy about the combo of an aggressive top's look and an aggressive bottom's acquiescence.

Hey, us butch bottoms don't "acquiesce", we go down fightin'!
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: et in arcadia ego on March 12, 2007, 02:05:02 am
Guess I win something for weirdest answer:

Straight.


But don't hold it against me.... ::)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: David_CA on March 12, 2007, 09:56:00 am
Guess I win something for weirdest answer:

Straight.

But don't hold it against me.... ::)

Yep, you win the question reserved for straights... are you the dominant or submissive one?   ;)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: et in arcadia ego on March 12, 2007, 01:39:26 pm
David:

No question about which of those two I am. My wife says I am the submissive one, and I don't dare argue.
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: gregftl on March 12, 2007, 02:50:11 pm
bottom here and u can see for yourself on my homepage mattsapartment.com/greg4200n.html :)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: ndrew on March 12, 2007, 10:47:23 pm
hi,

I have a question.  has anyone noticed side effects of meds, specifically anti-depressents, changed you from bottom 2 top or vice-versa?  i know it sounds weird, but it happened to me...

drew
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: David_CA on March 12, 2007, 10:49:25 pm
hi,

I have a question.  has anyone noticed side effects of meds, specifically anti-depressents, changed you from bottom 2 top or vice-versa?  i know it sounds weird, but it happened to me...

drew

So, which are you now?
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: northernguy on March 12, 2007, 11:06:52 pm
bottom here and u can see for yourself on my homepage mattsapartment.com/greg4200n.html :)

Whoa, be still my heart...and other organs :-*
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Amosboy on March 13, 2007, 12:00:54 am
hi,

I have a question.  has anyone noticed side effects of meds, specifically anti-depressents, changed you from bottom 2 top or vice-versa?  i know it sounds weird, but it happened to me...

drew

Yeah....one interesting and oddly beneficial thing that Paxil did for me and my lusty bottom boy, besides limiting my personalities to five, was to give me the ability to drill a loving hole for hours without coming. 

This is great for the "top action" I've been in for the last ten years.  Though I must say, I have also enjoyed a four year role as a bottom with a boyfriend who just didn't want to ride. 

HERE'S A LITTLE SECRET...it takes a good bottom to be a good top.  You never know when the shoe may be on the other foot.  You know the golden rule:  "Do unto others as you...."  Somehow that seems a little blasphemous.  Ooopsy.

I think is all depends on the chemistry.  You can always get comfortable in any position when you don't put the pressure of perfection on yourself.  I think with couples and/or random encounters people enter into the physical space with predispositions.

Amosboy

Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: Bucko on March 13, 2007, 02:02:56 am
bottom here and u can see for yourself on my homepage mattsapartment.com/greg4200n.html :)


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, PM me. We're neighbors  ;D

Brent
(Who never misses an opportunity)
Title: Re: Bottom or Top?
Post by: mattcope on March 13, 2007, 06:53:24 am
I am a total bottom.  Before I seroconverted, I was more versitile, but whenever I get into a potential top situation now, I lose my erection completely.   I know it is an anxiety thing.  But I am also better at being a bottom,  and yeah...  power bottom would describe me.   

Oh and this is my virgin posting