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The absolute CD4 count usually corresponds to the CD4 percentages. A CD4 percentage of greater than 29% corresponds to an absolute count of more than 500 cells/microliters, 14% to 28% corresponds to an absolute count between 200 and 500 cells/microliters, and less than 14% corresponds to an absolute count of fewer than 200 cells/microliters.
but coming down to 359 is dangerously close to unhealthy territory.
This is NOT the article I was referring to, but it does go into some changes in thoughts on CD4/CD8 ratios. But I do recall reading an article that mentioned that absolute CD4 numbers aren't rock solid to represent immune health. I believe it was an article on lymphoma in PLWH and Non-HIV populations. Will keep looking.
the cd4 count is simply a count of how many cd4s you have. It is not a measure of the strength or quality of your immune system. The general rule of thought is that MORE cd4s is better; although without being able to measure the strength/quality, that rule of thought is not always right. CD4s are also only one tiny part of your immune system as there are nearly 400 different types of CD cells.
I would like to see the source also. I have never hear of the "normal range" starting at less than 500. I do remember though in the late 90s the upper range being 800; but since a test for cd4 count wasn't even developed until the late 90s, the upper limit was something that changed as more data was collected.
I personally have told people that 400 wasn't the worst lower limit than having the 500 (taking into account that the count is not a measure of cd4 strength); but coming down to 359 is dangerously close to unhealthy territory. While the cd4 test doesn't measure strength, a result that is closer to "200 or less" does show that the HIV either has done or is doing a lot of damage to the immune system.
Unlike how the upper end of the cd4 normal range is just a number and is not reflective of strength of cd4s, I would never consider anything lower than 500 as the lower range limit. Anyone with a count below that is a patient that certainly could have HIV health related issues and is a patient who should be monitored more not less. Below 500 and as approaching 200 or less, the cd4 percentage should be consulted more than the absolute cd4 number concerning the patient's health.
absolute CD4 numbers aren't rock solid to represent immune healththe cd4 count is simply a count of how many cd4s you have. It is not a measure of the strength or quality of your immune system. The general rule of thought is that MORE cd4s is better; although without being able to measure the strength/quality, that rule of thought is not always right. CD4s are also only one tiny part of your immune system as there are nearly 400 different types of CD cells.
I have never seen a low end quoted of "359." Do you have a a source for this data?I would like to see the source also. I have never hear of the "normal range" starting at less than 500. I do remember though in the late 90s the upper range being 800; but since a test for cd4 count wasn't even developed until the late 90s, the upper limit was something that changed as more data was collected.
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