Author Topic: My hiv risk! (Read 24523 times)

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #50 on:** April 08, 2016, 03:55:53 pm »

And btw I never took prep.

zach · « **Reply #51 on:** April 08, 2016, 04:03:35 pm »

PrEP and PEP are two different things, if I was in error thinking you're on PEP, my bad. It still wouldn't change my position that external rubbing is not a risk, and you would not be showing such serious symptoms so soon.

To clarify on your testing... if you're getting the same test ran a second time, you've said once in the thread you've just started the whole process over... that is not confirmation. The preliminary rapid tests are designed to error on the side of false positive reaction. Any positive reaction of that test must be confirmed with a different type of test. Take a dozen rapid tests... still have to confirm the result. After confirmation will come another round of labs; viral load, cd4, resistance and genotype. There is a process.

A confirmation test is something like a Western Blot test. Is that what you have done now with the military?

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #52 on:** April 09, 2016, 03:32:24 am »

Not to sure they sent 5 tubes of blood to the labs and said it would take two weeks. So I guess its one of the sensitive tests that take a while. I asked the doctor to run a full screen. I have takes pep or prep.

zach · « **Reply #53 on:** April 09, 2016, 06:33:55 am »

sounds right

just relax next couple weeks... remember, no matter the result things will be ok and life will go on

Jim Allen · « **Reply #54 on:** April 09, 2016, 06:49:16 am »

Look as I said before, and others have mentioned it's simple rubbing/frottage is not a HIV transmission risk. Now that's not a judgement from me, please don't see it like that.

If you are positive it does not matter to me how you got infected, and I moved your thread here as you tested positive .... well reactive.

Zach is right, if you are confirmed positive or not, life goes on and no need for drama as a positive result is simply not the end of the world. You will be fine.

Jim

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #55 on:** April 09, 2016, 10:13:25 am »

Gents thanks for the support. I would never be un honest. Simply no point. Whats done is done. The only exposure was that rubbing! But as you guys said whats done is done and I will have to fight this!

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #56 on:** April 11, 2016, 07:31:55 am »

Worst nightmare infection confirmed. Having a second test as this was the first one via the military. My world seems to have fallen apart! To be honest I knew it anyway because I felt really ill

Jim Allen · « **Reply #57 on:** April 11, 2016, 09:20:22 am »

Hi

Sorry to hear you had a 2nd reactive result, as they gave you the reactive result did they mention when they will do the next set of testing?

I'm sure you anxious to have the results confirmed, so you can move forward either way.

Jim

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #58 on:** April 11, 2016, 10:28:19 am »

Remember this is the first test with the Army. So they are carrying out a second test now. To confirm. Got so many thoughts running through my mind! I just feel like running away! It all like a bad dream. Always used condoms! Never put myself and risk! Never drink I am always careful. All this from rubbing my penis onto some its hard for me to believe!

Jim Allen · « **Reply #59 on:** April 11, 2016, 10:38:12 am »

Well one step at a time.

First get the results confirmed, find out the genotype if you are positive, than the VL and CD4's. Than we will know what the situation is and you can look into treatment.
But that's a lot of maybe's, first you still need to confirm.

This result means you are still in the same situation since you 3rd post, a reactive result that needs to be confirmed.

Jim

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #60 on:** April 11, 2016, 10:51:05 am »

Sorry I am knew to all this what is genotype? The doctor said my cd4 are not to bad but it shows it was a recent infection. Viral load not taken. I also aksed him to get my stomach checked as I have always suffered from ibs and now its worse since my exposure. If I do have It I just hope to be able to carry on serving

Jim Allen · « **Reply #61 on:** April 11, 2016, 11:49:14 am »

Hi

So from the sounds of it your doc checked you WBC. WBC is often checked for sign of infection. This is different from a specific CD4 count.

Look no need to worry about any of this anyhow as you first need to confirm the result. In short If you test positive they will check all the details, the Type and subtype of HIV, the treatment options this requires knowing the genotype, your CD4 counts and VL and a dozen other things.

Anyhow no need to worry about any of this, particularly not at this stage as you still need to get confirmation tests results first.

Jim

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #62 on:** April 11, 2016, 12:11:26 pm »

Thanks for the info. Does the sub- type have to do how aggressive the strain is?
Doctors said mine is most likely the hiv found in Africa

Jim Allen · « **Reply #63 on:** April 11, 2016, 12:40:23 pm »

Hi

The flavour of HIV does not really matter as such. Type and subtype will indeed vary per region, progression in some seems to be slower than others. The UK mainly have HIV 1, M Subtype B. but that's not important really. Just test, and if confirmed positive than treat and move on with life.

Jim

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #64 on:** April 11, 2016, 01:13:49 pm »

I just hope mine is not an agressive type! I have read some can covert to aids quicker

Jim Allen · « **Reply #65 on:** April 11, 2016, 01:17:30 pm »

Your are reading and worrying to much.
There is no stain that would give you advanced stage HIV in under 10 weeks and you said your last negative test result was 2 years ago so.

Jim

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #66 on:** April 11, 2016, 02:08:39 pm »

Jim not worried about advance hiv yet but for it to be a more aggressive type yes. To be honest the only things bothering me are trush on my tougue a sore throat and the muscles pains along with the morning sickness and increased stomach problems. Now I am kind of getting uee to these problems

Jim Allen · « **Reply #67 on:** April 11, 2016, 03:55:02 pm »

Hi

Stop focusing on symptoms, it's making you head spin for no reason and it does you no good.

It's simple the symptoms in this thread that you have listed would not show this soon or in this manner in response to a recent HIV infection no matter what flavor or type hiv.

Just test, and if confirmed positive than treat and move on with life.
If the Army is running the 2nd test already you should know either way within 7-10 days from now.

Jim

CaveyUK · « **Reply #68 on:** April 11, 2016, 06:53:42 pm »

Quote from: Mikey1985san on April 11, 2016, 10:51:05 am

The doctor said my cd4 are not to bad but it shows it was a recent infection. Viral load not taken.

IF you are positive and you last had a negative test a couple of years back, then it's bound to be a fairly recent infection (ie. less than 2yrs). A CD4 count (without knowing your HIV- baseline) will not tell you anything about how recent or otherwise it is. VL can give a clue, but only a clue.

Pointless worrying about an aggressive type, as your infection would be less than 2yrs old. As Jim says, there are several 'types' of HIV, but the treatment for all of them is exactly the same so getting on treatment ASAP would be the aim.

As stated, your current symptoms are likely to be more down to anxiety or another bug, rather than HIV

Spend some of the time you are stressing instead going through these forums, specifically the ones where people relay their new diagnosis, for two reasons - one - to see that some people get diagnosed at a very late stage - far later than yourself, and two - to see that treatment really does work.

I understand why you would be anxious about this, and no amount of us telling you not to be will stop you worrying - but really, it's all about getting that confirmation and IF you are positive then you can proactively take all the steps necessary to handle your health and move on with your life.

CaveyUK · « **Reply #69 on:** April 11, 2016, 06:57:00 pm »

Oh, and if you do get a positive confirmation, then it really doesn't matter to anyone here how you caught it. Be it the non-risk frottage scenario, anal sex, shooting up, blood transfusion...anything. Reason being - it really doesn't matter... HIV doesn't discriminate and it's the same virus everyone is dealing with regardless of how it was transmitted.

Mikey1985san · « **Reply #70 on:** April 12, 2016, 03:27:45 am »

I know it does not matter how I got it. But I do want people to be aware that it is possible to get if from genital rubbing if fluids are exchanged. This is so they dont put themselves at risk and think its safe like I did!

Jim Allen · « **Reply #71 on:** April 12, 2016, 03:42:51 am »

Frottage is not a risk. Period.

Biologically, four conditions need to be present for transmission to occur:
The virus must be present in an infectious body fluid from the HIV positive person, it must be present at sufficient levels to cause infection. There must be an effective route of transmission, and it must reach susceptible cells in another person.

Frottage does not meet any of the 4 biological conditions needed.

Like I said before it's not a judgment from me but it's very simple you did not get HIV from plain Frottage. If you did get HIV something else happened.

At this point I am ready to lock your thread. This thread is not for you to misinform Joe Public, I left it was open for whilst you got tested. Now locking this is an unpopular move but you have had weeks to test and have either been avoiding testing or simply have a different agenda. I don't care what.

Now If I am wrong and you are getting tested I apologize but I have to go by my experience and what you have posted so far.

Jim

Jim Allen · « **Reply #72 on:** April 26, 2016, 10:35:53 am »

Hi

I'm glad the confirmation tests came back negative and you can move on now.

As I said before reactive test results are just that reactive and not a diagnosis. Reactive results just means further testing is required for confirmation. Anyhow glad you can move on.

Ill say this again for anyone reading this frottage is not a risk. Period.
Biologically, four conditions need to be present for transmission to occur:
The virus must be present in an infectious body fluid from the HIV positive person, it must be present at sufficient levels to cause infection. There must be an effective route of transmission, and it must reach susceptible cells in another person.

Frottage does not meet any of the 4 biological conditions needed.

Jim

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